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Shane Sturgeon
HD DVD vs. Blu-ray: And the Winner is ... No One
by Shane Sturgeon on August 16, 2006 Category: Technology

HD DVD vs. Blu-rayBy now, I'm sure you've read a dozen articles like this one. In fact, I debated about whether or not to title it as such, as I was afraid most of you would skip it over. Obviously that is not the case if you are now reading these words.

If you are withholding your Next-Gen DVD player purchase until this so-called format war has a winner, it won't help ... there likely won't be one ... and there definitely won't be one any time soon.

Reading further, you will see how each is making equal progress on almost all fronts, and that both camps are investing heavily in their respective formats heading into the holiday buying season. This is not an in-depth analysis of the two formats, as I'm sure you've read too much about each already ... but rather is intended to be a summary of the "current state" of each of the standards.


HD DVD Status

HD DVDHD DVD has a market lead of about 2 months, they are half the price out of the gate, and all reports from the field are saying the quality is better than Blu-ray (at least from the titles/player available right now).

They also have Microsoft on board, who is coming out with an HD DVD add-on (~$200) for the Xbox 360 this fall ... which will speed adoption of the format.

And while they don't have as many production houses on board at the moment, I predict that many of the production houses in the Blu-ray camp (except for maybe Sony) will follow in footsteps of Warner Home Video and Paramount Pictures and begin producing in both formats once they see HD DVD leading the way into households this holiday season.

You should expect to see more than 200 titles available by the time the holiday buying season arrives. And now that they are through the "testing" phase, and have worked out some disc production kinks, you should also see more blockbuster-type films released.


Blu-ray Status

Blu-rayBlu-ray is making great strides in penetrating the PC market, from a back-up media perspective. Both Sony and TDK are now shipping double-layer 50GB media, and TDK has prototyped 200GB media. The capacity advantage won't matter much for feature films, but the "TV on DVD" market will jump all over it.

Blu-ray also has many more manufacturers on board, which will lead to competition within the format itself, arguably resulting in better hardware.

And let's not forget about the Playstation 3, which is currently scheduled to arrive in the US on November 17th. In my opinion, that will have nearly the same penetrating effect as the Xbox drive will have for HD DVD, despite the PS3's $500-$600 price tag.


Conclusion

Both camps are so far invested, and are making equal headway both in terms of penetration and business partnerships that neither one will have any reason to "give in". And if you take into account the marketing dollars that will be spent through the next 6 months, that even further solidifies my position that we'll be living with both formats for a while to come ... and undoubtedly be reading another hundred articles like this one trying to predict the winner.. So if you're waiting for that, you'll be waiting a while.

I've outlined the key points in the table below for those that prefer a more visual representation:

  HD DVD Blu-ray Notes
Capacity   check The predominant size for HD DVD is 30GB, while Blu-ray is 50GB. Granted, this applies only to burned media at present, but an advantage nonetheless.
Disc Production check Existing DVD production facilities can be converted to HD DVD more readily than to Blu-ray
Price check Blu-ray players are selling at about 100% premium over HD DVD
Sales check check Too early to tell. Comparing sales over the past 6 weeks, when both players were available, Blu-ray leads slightly in unit sales ... but HD DVD is gaining.
Movie Industry check check HD DVD currently has more titles available than does Blu-ray, but Blu-ray has more movie studios in their camp ... for the moment.
Gaming check check Historically, PS has been more popular than Xbox, but we'll have to wait another 6 months to see if the price differences has any effect on that.
PC Industry check HD DVD - Intel, Microsoft, HP, and Toshiba
Blu-ray - Apple, HP, Dell, Sony
Blu-ray is going to get the check-mark here simply due to their capacity and the fact that they are already deeply entrenched in the PC market
Timing check HD DVD has a 2-month advantage ... so they get the check-mark, for now
Marketing check HD DVD has announced a US marketing spend of $150M, but there are rumors of an impending $200M campaign by Sony to push Blu-ray


One final prediction: It is more likely you will see a combo player, or combo media, before you will see either camp begin to pull ahead. While both Europe and Japan have these deeply staked out positions, Korea does not. Today manufacturers in Korea are designing and readying for market a combination player. The premium for doing so is said to be modest, although too early to know specifically.

Posted by Shane Sturgeon, August 16, 2006 11:43 AM

Reader Commentary

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videograbber • Aug 16, 2:42pm
Good article, Shane. With one exception...

"The predominant size for HD DVD is 30GB, while Blu-ray is 50GB"

I'm not sure this statement has any justification, considering that so far (and for the foreseeable future) NONE of the movie releases on Blu-ray are on DL 50 GB media. They're all 25 GB SL, due to manufacturing issues that Sony poo-poo'ed, yet still hasn't overcome yet. And combined with their stubborn retention of MPEG-2 encoding, this has really hurt their PQ.

- Tim...
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Shane • Aug 16, 2:49pm
You are correct. But, I am referring to format capacity currently on the market, not necessarily movies only. This, of course, applies specifically to the PC side, or the "burning" market, and not the "pressing" market.

- Shane...
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peter m. wilson • Aug 16, 5:45pm
Hi,

At the risk of sounding like a broken record I was hoping that both camps would immediately attach 6 & 7.1 discrete sound tracks to every release.

For those of us that already scale our significant collection of dvds and are not yet in the 1080p display crowd I wonder if theres' enough on either bone outside of PC based tools.

Personally, the fact that I can now add as many outboard SATA hrd/drvs as I want to my SA8300hd cable HD decoder/pvr, which at todays prices equals a $6.00cdn investment for a 2hr 1080i movie. This makes sitting on the side lines even easier.

Peter M....
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Richard • Aug 19, 7:29am
Two points...

Bluray has not out sold HD DVD in the US market based on stand alone players. The only way that figure can be true is if they are including Bluray worldwide along with PC applications. Being an HDTV website I don't see how that has anything to do with our concerns or our US market.

Bluray has a lower minimum required performance envelope than HD DVD such as the fact that Bluray players are not required to provide HD audio bitstreams or decoding; that is at the option of the manufacturer.

Considering that both are technically equal in potential performance Bluray's introduction has been disappointing to say the least.

Sony does not appear to be the same company they were as they struggle financially along with pushing a new format. In the past Sony excelled at providing performance hardware and software for their new formats out of the gate with the most recent example of SACD. An interesting parrallel since SACD killed the DVD Audio format on introduction b...
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Shane • Aug 19, 7:59am
I didn't just pull those figures out of my a$$. It comes from sell-through data from retailers. Specifically, it says that Blu-ray players outsold HD DVD players ... comparing ONLY the last six weeks ... when BOTH were available on the market (i.e. ignoring the 2 month HD DVD lead).

It has nothing to do with the PC market.

- Shane...
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Richard • Aug 19, 2:44pm
I never thought you made them up...

But as you know there are so many ways to take facts and manipulate them towards what they want you to express.

So since the introduction of bluray it has exceeded the sales of HD DVD over the same time period yet fails to account for HD DVD player sales two months prior, the peak! Sounds like manipulation to me.

It is unfortunate that so many questions have to be asked to make sure the data one is given is going to have real value and represent reality. :?

I know this much, I have not read about the first HD DVD player being returned yet have read about at least five folks returning the Samsung Bluray... Another point they are likely not taking into account, returns......
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Shane • Aug 19, 5:35pm
That is true, but next time I would appreciate you verifying the facts before presuming they are flawed or slanted. I am not the only one reporting these figures, and a little research on your part would have shown this.

I stated very clearly in the article that it is "too early to tell" who has the lead based on unit sales because there is not enough market data. And the way it was presented in the article left no ambiguity:

Too early to tell. Comparing sales over the past 6 weeks, when both players were available, Blu-ray leads slightly in unit sales ... but HD DVD is gaining.

No manipulation, only reporting facts as presented. And if you still have doubts, here are the other sites reporting on this same data:
http://www.homemediaretailing.com/index.cfm?sec_id=2
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/18/hddvd_bluray/
http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/57/14157.php

- Shane...
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videograbber • Aug 19, 10:50pm
Richard commented:
> as you know there are so many ways to take facts and manipulate them... <

That's certainly true, though I thought Shane qualified it quite well. I.e., with only 6 weeks overlapping, where both were on the shelves, you don't really have a good enough sample to draw conclusions from. And that's exactly what he said. And a 54% share of units sold is "leading slightly". Lastly, "but HD-DVD is gaining" reflects the reality that Blu-ray outsold only during the first 3 of those weeks, with the Toshiba format taking over in the last 3. So Shane nailed it pretty well.

The only major fact from the industry pubs left out was that HD-DVD performed a substantial 33% better during it's introduction period than Blu-ray did during its intro.

But here's the thing about manipulation. Nobody is reporting that in many of the retail environments the Toshiba-HD is now being pushe...
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peter m. wilson • Aug 20, 9:23am
Hi

Sony may be able to claim higher sales from a dollar perspective since their hardware can be double per unit cost compare to a HD-DVD.

Peter M....
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Shane • Aug 20, 10:03am
You are correct, and that is exactly how it stands now. In each formats first 6 weeks of sales, HD DVD outsold in units, while Blu-ray outsold in revenue.

Sony may be able to claim higher sales from a dollar perspective since their hardware can be double per unit cost compare to a HD-DVD.

Remember, it's Samsung that has the player out right now, not Sony.

Another subtlety burried within your comment (and as videograbber pointed out) is that Blu-ray appears to have much higher margins for the retailer ... thus the reason most retailers appear to be pushing Blu-ray while HD DVD is burried off to the side.

- Shane...

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Shane Sturgeon is the Co-Publisher and Chief Technologist of HDTV Magazine, an industry publication with HDTV roots going back to 1984, when Dale Cripps founded The HDTV Newsletter. Today, HDTV Magazine is a leading online resource for HDTV news and information and captures the eyes and imaginations of over 3 million visitors annually. Mr. Sturgeon has a background in information technology and has served in various consulting capacities for Fortune 500 companies such as J.P. Morgan Chase, Verizon Communications, Proctor & Gamble and Nationwide Insurance. He has a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science from Wright State University.