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Richard Fisher
Will Internet Video Replace Blu-ray?
by Richard Fisher on March 11, 2008 Category: Blu-ray

With one war over and Blu-ray taking victory, there is yet another war brewing in the background ... or is there? The new question being asked by the rank and file is whether or not there is even a future for packaged media. Can you imagine a day where nobody physically rents a movie? Some are.

Historically, this battle has been ongoing via your local cable system or satellite service; it is called Pay Per View (PPV) and Video On Demand (VOD). While the providers have found great profits in this service and their customers have enjoyed the convenience, it didn't make much of a dent in VHS movie sales and rentals, nor does it impact the sales and rentals of the present day DVD. On the other hand, neither of those services provided the convenience of ownership or the performance envelope that DVD can provide. Even with broadcast HDTV, you can do far better with Blu-ray.

The internet continues to change our lives and starting this year formidable opponents to packaged video intend to use the internet to try and change the way consumers watch Hollywood blockbusters. I will not go into the specific products or technical details here, as that information will be coming from our other authors soon enough. What I will tell you is that a number of these services are going beyond TV programs and DVD movies, and being hyped as delivering the HD Blu-ray experience in your home without the Blu-ray carrier, the disc.

While you will need the internet for these services, you don't necessarily need a PC. The new kids on the block will be providing hardware in the form of a box that sits in your rack just like any other consumer product you have in your home. Some are delivering this service in real time while others will have you wait on a download. Some will be selling ownership of the content to be exclusively stored on your box, which is also directly competitive with users seeking 100 disc carousel players or hours upon hours of content in a media PC. The new kids marketing departments are leaving the impression that they can deliver a performance envelope every bit as rich and detailed as Blu-ray. That's clearly wishful thinking when comparing Blu-ray bit stream bandwidth to that of the internet. The real question will be if the common user can see or hear enough of a difference to justify Blu-ray over one of these SD/HD movie services, especially if the convenience of these new services betters packaged media.

If you as business would like to see a future for packaged media then what has been going on for the last 2-3 years behind the scenes for this years introduction by the new kids has to make you wonder if the packaged market can survive long term. Consider the proprietary hardware the new kids will be dishing out just like satellite boxes that won't be coming from multiple manufacturers. Indeed, how would an extended format war have influenced this market? We aren't going to know and I bet a number of executives didn't want to take the chance to find out, hence the quick death of HD DVD and the on going promotion of Blu-ray. Bear in mind that the replacement of packaged media by data delivery affects numerous industries involved in the art and design, software, mastering, manufacturing, distribution and retail of such a product. There is much for many to protect including your ability to purchase packaged media as a gift!

For myself I have no vested interest in the box or packaging of the disc, only the disc itself, which is why I rent nearly everything. The only titles I own are those that were given to me, I purchased because they could not be rented or I wanted 24/7 access to them at a whim. Our family habits can require the ability to watch a movie in segments over several evenings if necessary and that is one feature none of the new kids provide unless you purchase the download. None offer a way to play a calibration disc, nor do they provide such content. How do any of us know if we are getting the real deal? Currently special features are not part of the services and while special features aren't my bag they may float your boat. What about portability? Finally there is the fear factor of what will happen when the box breaks, or far worse, the hard drive in the box fails. Did I just lose my library and monetary investment? Is there any way to archive my purchases? As a collector, the shiny disc has a 30 year lifespan and the volatility of hard drive storage has no comparison.

If you look at audio, the social ownership experience of packaged media has waned dramatically over the years in favor of data only. Conversely, as evidenced by the DVD market and movie collector that experience seems firmly entrenched for now. On the other hand, our youth represents the future and they clearly don't put audio and video on the same pedestal as the older generation does. The new generation takes for granted our wonderful HT systems and widescreen movies that just over 10 years ago was considered a luxury. Let us not underestimate the fact that the younger generation has been trained by the new world of audio downloads and there is every reason to suspect they are willing and ready to do the same with movies. The new kids on the video rental block are counting on it!

Posted by Richard Fisher, March 11, 2008 9:35 AM

Reader Commentary

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hanksilvercrayon • Mar 11, 10:10am
"Eventually movie prices fell to the point where consumers could make the decision to purchase the movie for their collection, or rent the movie for 1/3 the price. Luckily for Blockbuster, the value to the consumer remained in the rental arrangement. It was an entire industry built around a simple mistake: Hollywood's inability to recognize the simple economics of value. The reason that the video rental industry still exists today is that there is no value to the average consumer if he has to pay $20 for the movie. The rental industry essentially corrects this mistake and makes a huge profit that should be enjoyed by the producers themselves." full article: http://skiptalk.com/blockbusted/...
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allchemie • Mar 11, 10:47am
I can certainly see myself downloading rental HD movies, or renting them through Netflix or some other similar company. But I think I will most likely rent Blu Ray through the Netflix business format rather than download, unless I am in some kind of unstoppable rush to see it. I can't see too many times where waiting two or so days for a movie will be catastrophic.

Also, I don't have fiber optic connections (a la FIOS) and don't care to spend any time downloading large files. In addition, for the next few years I don't see any internet software provider giving the consumers complete dowloads with all that is on the Blu Ray disc--including the best audio surround codecs, such as Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master Audio.

If I am going to pay the same for renting by internet or mail, it is a no-brainer for me to go by mail--at least until the downloads have 1080p, the movies totally uneditted, directors and actors commentary, and most definitely the best video codecs.

I also don't th...
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perfectinght • Mar 11, 11:01am
:idea:
One huge problem with rental optical disc media is defects from mishandling by previous renters. Don't you just love watching 80% of a movie, only to have it lock up and prevent you from finishing the movie due to a scratch! That's why I buy movies I consider worthy of repeated viewings over time. Downloads that can be archived would be better than renting hard media in this respect. I certainly like the idea of a media appliance that is not a computer. There will always be a large percentage of the movie-loving public who will not want to use a computer.

Joe Kane started talking about this capability over 18 months ago, for NEW movie releases, timed to coincide with the theatrical release! I also like the idea of digital rights management offering the option of purchasing a title for download and making one copy on BD-R for extended personal use. There are many questions that could be presented about HD audio formats, etc., from the download plans. Image and soun...
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hanksilvercrayon • Mar 11, 11:27am
the model I see winning is what some providers are already doing, and that is selling minutes that allow you to stream any content in a collection.

You could pay $3/hour and choose a live stream from blockbuster, and you could watch anything in the collection as long as your pass was valid. FF and rewind all you want - even jump to another stream if the content sucks.

I'll bet once 10+Mbs connections are the standard for broadband this model will win out....
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jerfilm • Mar 11, 11:39am
I mentioned this in a different thread, but there is an alternative to internet downloads already available. If you are a DishNet customer and have your trusty DVR, you can activate the USB port for $39, add as large an external hard drive as you want and save movies to your hearts content. My 750 Gb drive should hold over a hundred HD movies. Cost around a buck and a half for HD movies, lots less for TCM kind of content.....

Pros: HD quality, ability to erase when you decide that indeed, you're never gonna watch it again. Some hacks have already figured out how to get these programs into their PCs from the DVR.....If it gets full, unplug it and install another one.....

Cons: You can only playback through the same DVR as you recorded with. Some copyprotected material won't copy. Not fast downloads like the internet, but then, you can schedule a copy for the middle of night or during the day when you're working and wouldn't be using the TV and DVR anyway......

Just a th...
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DavidEC • Mar 11, 11:58am
The main troubles with Internet and/or Satellite recorded PPV is... in the DirecTV+DVR model they will self destruct after 24 hours after you start viewing and will not have a rewind feature to restart from the beginning.... while not happening today it is reported that it will start happening in April'08....
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perfectinght • Mar 11, 12:15pm
We want 1080p/24fps and HD audio formats, if BD is going to be replaced with anything. Enough with this going backwards in quality for convenience sake!

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." H. L. Mencken....
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akirby • Mar 11, 12:20pm
The main troubles with Internet and/or Satellite recorded PPV is... in the DirecTV+DVR model they will self destruct after 24 hours after you start viewing and will not have a rewind feature to restart from the beginning.... while not happening today it is reported that it will start happening in April'08.

PPV only. That doesn't happen with HBO/SHO/MAX/etc. At least not yet....
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akirby • Mar 11, 12:28pm
We want 1080p/24fps and HD audio formats, if BD is going to be replaced with anything. Enough with this going backwards in quality for convenience sake!

We? And just how many people do you think own a system capable of displaying 1080p/24 and decoding HD audio formats?

The mass market has never catered to audiophiles and videophiles. There is nothing wrong with 720p/1080i video and DD and DTS 7.1 audio and it's a huge step up from NTSC.

I guess everyone should eat at nothing but 5 star restaurants and we should close Wendys, McDonalds, Chilis and Red Lobster and all the other mainstream restaurants....
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perfectinght • Mar 11, 1:30pm
Yikes! There's no shortage of hypersensitivity in America as well. As I said, in so many words, I'm not impressed by a replacement for this technology if it means a reduction in quality....

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Richard Fisher is the President of Mastertech Repair Corporation, serving north east Atlanta, Georgia, and has been servicing, calibrating and reviewing audio video products since 1981. Tech Services USA, a division of Mastertech, creates sites, communities and libraries for consumers and professionals to share their technology knowledge and learn from each other. These include The ISF Forum and HD Library. HDTV Magazine exclusively publishes HD Library and Forum for Tech Services USA.

Richard is ISF and HAA certified providing calibration and A/V reproduction engineering services. Richard is a technical consultant and also provides performance ISF and HAA home theater systems and calibration via Custom HT. Mastertech Repair Corporation is a factory authorized service center for Hitachi, Mitsubishi and Toshiba and a member of the National Electronics Servicing Dealers Association, NESDA, and the Georgia Electronics Servicing Dealers Association, GESDA.