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Monitors vs. hdtvs

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:09 am
by kris_9035
Wtf is going on lol i tought 1080p was no.1 on hdtvs to bring us top of the line picture/detail etc, but look http://shopping.com/xPF-Viewsonic_P_225f_22_in <is that better then 1080p hdtv big screen or any hdtv. It haves 2560 x 1920 :shock: ?

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:13 am
by Richard
And it better have some really good scaling since it is native to nothing.

Super HD is already in development in Japan. Something like 4000X2000

The higher pixel counts are being pushed for digital cinema applications and very large screens.

Monitors vs. hdtvs

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:42 am
by lcaillo
Wtf is going on lol i tought 1080p was no.1 on hdtvs to bring us top of the line picture/detail etc, but look http://shopping.com/xPF-Viewsonic_P_225f_22_in <is that better then 1080p hdtv big screen or any hdtv. It haves 2560 x 1920
There are many variables that contribute to "better." As Richard points out, any source would have to be scaled to this resolution and the quality of that processing is only one of the factors affecting the result.

Ideally, ultra high resolutions would be integer divisible by all of the current standards. Ideally, a CRT monitor would be able to sync to any source. Also, the implementation could vary so much that it is hard to generalize performance from nothing but a resolution figure.

This set is a 4:3 computer monitor that does not even support HD resolutions. In that sense and the context of this forum, I'd say no it is not "better."

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:50 am
by kris_9035
Oh ok thx for the help again, i already knew this really but some kid was like monitors have higher resolution and better then hdtvs that could do 1080p. I knew he was dumb lol, thx.

Here what this dumb kid said.

1080p is 1080 horizontal lines of pixels.
1600x1200 resolution is 1200 horizontal lines of pixels.
1080<1200
HDTV<monitor

The numbers do not lie. HDTV is not as great as you seem to think it is.

And I've seen 1080 TVs before. My monitor is much sharper than an HDTV. It's also several times cheaper. If I can, I'm going to play my X360 on my monitor simply because it's sharper.

Lol he dosent even know 1080p means progressive. Hmm just wondering how many pixels dose a hdtv have that can do 720p and 1080i. I am not saying 1080p bc i can prolly only buy a 1080i hdtv. Unless they make smaller size one real soon that not over 800 bucks lol.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:19 pm
by lcaillo
I find your posts very hard to follow. You might try using better grammar and composition if you want to be understood.

If you don't think HD is all that great, there is no reason for you to buy it. As has been said already, resolution is not all there is to determining what is "better." Some products can have higher resolution or greater pixel counts and not be appropriate for a particular application.

The "dumb" kid is correct in a very limited context. That context is inappropriate in the discussion of most HD applications.

In order to be meaningful your statement that your monitor is sharper than HDTV would need to include relevant info such as the models that you are comparing and the sources that are being used. General statements like "computer monitors are better than HDTVs" are meaningless as saying plasma displays are better than CRTs. It depends.

You can, BTW, buy a 1080p HDTV. It may not be the "best" or "sharpest" compared to 1080i sets, depending on the particular product and the application.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:00 pm
by kris_9035
So bottom line is hdtvs are better and there is notting better then 1080p or 1080i or 720p. Also monitors that dont have hd dosent matter about how high the Resolution is right. Just makeing sure i know everything. Oh and it dosent matter if a monitor can do .24mm dot pitch if the monitor not hd? Also how many pixels dose 720p got? and 180i and 1080p gots? Sorry if im makeing anyone mad or anything im just tryin to get my facts right and understand. Oh here somein dumb for me to ask (sorry) All hdtvs do they all use the same hd or is all hd diff. I mean like 720p and 1080i on every hdtv that dose that is the same? Sorry i just didnt know this and thx for the help.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:59 pm
by Richard
At this risk of sounding repetitive so many of your answers lie in the Video Waveform column.

viewforum.php?f=103

As for calling your friend dumb I ask you to please refrain from that expression here. Those kinds of responses to simple ignorance of a topic makes others wary of posting any question. Nobody wants to be seen as asking a dumb question and then raked over the coals for asking it. Nobody wants to be helpful to the site with answers and then be raked over the coals for providing an incorrect answer.

:idea: Nobody here knows everything yet as a group we get it covered!:idea:

And thank you so much for putting forth the effort to change the composition of your writing as it does make it easier to understand.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:55 am
by kris_9035
Hehe, k sorry and that kid not my freind. Ok thx i.ll check that out.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:26 pm
by kris_9035
Sorry to say, but i have a other ?:(

If i get a monitor that is not a hd monitor, but dose a higher resolution/pixels/lines then hdtvs can do. Dose that mean better picture bc all of what i know about this stuff it seems to me a higher resolution/lines/pixels makes better picture/detail then even 1080p.

Ok yet do some work here.

1080p 1920 x 1080

A monitor (one that dose this high) 2560 x 1920

So dosent that prove it is higher and better then 1080p?

Oh and i do not know why at this site i got it said's the monitor can do 2560 x 1920, but then it said's it can only do 2048 x 1536.

Well also it freaky bc it said's for Max. Resolution 2560 x 1920.

Then said's, Resolutions supported 1280 x 1024

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:39 am
by akirby
Stop thinking about PC monitors and focus on TVs.

Don't even think about 1080p in your price range. A direct view 16:9 1080i CRT is your best bet for gaming in that price range. Flat screen LCDs in that price range will be smaller and too slow for fast action.

Here's a nice Panasonic from walmart.com for $550.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... id=4088166