----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
factor, etc ), a 480x720 good hi-bit DVD could look impressive compared to HD because you have not
seen all what 1080p HD can show yet, vertically and horizontally.
Plus you have not ever had it ISF calibrated. After all these years it is due for a tune up at minimum...
Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>Hugh,
>
>I am busy but I have to stop this ball.
>
>I went to the same booth 3 times, I disagree with this reporter.
>
>First of all no one that understands the concepts of resolution and HDTV could expect to notice
>differences on a 42" plasma viewing from 10 feet away, it is too far away to make judgments on such
>small screen.
>
>Second, the two plasma panels where not the new 1080p panels, the new 50" 1080p panel was across
>that setup (and he never mentions that), connected to a Blu-ray Elite player, the panels where the
>typical 1366x768, meaning a 1080x1920 content would be cut quite drastically horizontally and
>vertically (50% to be exact in temporal and spatial resolution), remember the content was 1080x1920p
>at 24 fps not 1080i 30.
>
>The plasma that showed the regular DVD version was obviously showing a degraded image, and I mean so
>degraded that it looked as they have tweaked the setup (and I told them that, pointing to all the
>uncommon DVD type of video imperfections) to show at its worst compared to the Blu-ray source, it
>actually looked like 480i horribly upscaled/deinterlaced within the plasma (not 480p coming from the
>player) and displayed with an intentional uncalibrated panel with strong contrast to accentuate the
>imperfections.
>
>Blue-ray could never have shown well the 2 million pixels it has on a panel that is limited to 1
>million.
>
>I wonder what this reporter knowledge is of what he/she writes, it is certainly the wrong person to
>write about, he obviously did not bother to check anything of the viewing systems he was witnessing.
>
>The best way to see 1080p content is on a 1080p set/plasma at the proper distance, he did not bother
>to do that.
>
>I am sorry that CNet has endorsed the article you read, it shows lack of knowledge on the
>technology, ignorance on the rules of viewing different resolutions, not to mention not checking the
>setup configuration of what he is viewing to make sure it was a fair comparison.
>
>Regarding your Elite TV (still excellent IMOP), it will also be unfair to judge a true 1080x1920p
>image on a set that has the limitations of CRT RPTV (in your case not more than 1400 lines of
>horizontal resolution in the best day, plus the vertical interlaced artifacts, the aliasing, Kell
>factor, etc ), a 480x720 good hi-bit DVD could look impressive compared to HD because you have not
>seen all what 1080p HD can show yet, vertically and horizontally.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>Hugh Campbell
>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:10 AM
>To: HDTV Magazine
>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>
>
>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>Just read a piece on CNET.com regarding the difference between Blu-Ray and
>480p which is in line with what I wrote below. In any event here are the
>comments from that piece. With this said I will be one of the first to buy
>whichever format looks like it will win assuming sufficient software. Just
>food for thought.
>
>"Probably the most interesting demo I saw at this year's show was Pioneer's
>display of two 42-inch plasmas side by side: one showing a DVD, the other a
>Blu-ray disc. I'm not sure what point the company was trying to make, but it
>was clear that if you stood about 8 to 10 feet back from the
>displays--normal viewing distance--it was pretty hard to tell the difference
>between the two movies. When you got within 3 feet of the screens, you could
>see that the Blu-ray movie was sharper, but it wasn't a huge leap. Pioneer,
>of course, is on the Blu-ray bandwagon, and its player won a Best of Show
>award in the home-video category, but the company rep agreed with my
>assessment that owning a Blu-ray player (or HD-DVD....ed. note) really made
>sense only for those with TVs of 50 inches or larger."
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:35 PM
>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>
>
>
>
>>Jason, yes but when I view D-VHS vs 480p I don't see that huge of a
>>difference. Better yes, but not along the lines of HD vs SD. Maybe it's
>>the movies I've used for comparison or perhaps D-VHS at 1080i is just not
>>that great. I'm hoping 1080p will really make a
>>difference............assuming we are able to buy movies in that format.
>>
>>Hugh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jason Burroughs" <[email protected]>
>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:58 PM
>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Hugh, actually aren't you talking about watching 1080i vs 480p on your
>>>TV?
>>>That should be quite a difference!
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>>Hugh Campbell
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:06 PM
>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>I've got the same problem but I can't believe they will release either
>>>player and not have it be able to output 1080i over component. Too many
>>>prospective customers with component only inputs. Of course the PQ
>>>difference is not all that great, not like HD vs SD, so I can wait. But
>>>since they can't agree on one format who knows what they may do.
>>>
>>>Hugh
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Walt Moody" <[email protected]>
>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:46 PM
>>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Sounds like we're in literally the same boat! I own the same set, a
>>>>WS65711, ISF calibrated and if I get rid of it, it will be for a
>>>>dedicated
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>room with a 1080p projector and a new audio system. I'd like to believe
>>>>I'll see an HD picture at home from a disc before it comes to that.
>>>>
>>>>Walt
>>>>
>>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Believe me I sympathize. I own a 2002 65" Mits Diamond and the picture
>>>>>is
>>>>>absolutely beautiful, particularly since I had it calibrated. It's been
>>>>>killing me thinking about the fact that I won't be able to take
>>>>>advantage
>>>>>of
>>>>>the new HD players using that set. I also purchased a 51" Hitachi with
>>>>>DVI
>>>>>in so that I wouldn't be cut out completely. But the situation in
>>>>>plain
>>>>>English, SUCKS!
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>>>>M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:31 PM
>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>About 6 years. I've seen it crop up several times in that span, but
>>>>>figured I would answer since the question was asked. Also, I own one of
>>>>>those older Mits (WS55805).
>>>>>
>>>>>The "conflicting information" I referred to relates to the new HD-DVD
>>>>>drive. Rodolfo and I received conflicting sets of information when we
>>>>>talked to their representatives at CES about whether 1080i was supported
>>>>>over component output. We are trying to verify that now and should have
>>>>>a
>>>>>(more) definitive answer soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>>| | "Anthony Rizzuto" |
>>>>>| | <[email protected]>|
>>>>>| | Sent by: "HDTV |
>>>>>| | Magazine" |
>>>>>| | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>>>>>| | vehdtv.com> |
>>>>>| | |
>>>>>| | |
>>>>>| | 01/12/2006 04:20 PM |
>>>>>| | Please respond to |
>>>>>| | "HDTV Magazine" |
>>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------|
>>>>> |
>>>>>|
>>>>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>|
>>>>> | cc:
>>>>>|
>>>>> | Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok, I'm not criticizing anyone and perhaps you and Walt are newer to the
>>>>>list than I thought, but we have been having this debate for over two
>>>>>years
>>>>>and the conclusion has always been the same, no HD over component. I
>>>>>have
>>>>>made the argument numerous times that it is unwise for the manufacturers
>>>>>to
>>>>>take this posistion as it will cut out at least thirty percent of their
>>>>>potential market and end up pissing off a lot of consumers etc, etc.
>>>>>Richard Fisher, myself and others even talked about a potential class
>>>>>action
>>>>>law suit against Mitsubishi for failing to make their sets upgradeable
>>>>>to
>>>>>DVI / HDMI. How long have you been a subscriber?
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>>>>M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:52 PM
>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There is conflicting information at the moment. But if I were a
>>>>>manufacturer, I would want to ensure that as many existing HDTV
>>>>>customers
>>>>>could use my product as possible. And since only a fraction of current
>>>>>HDTV's are DVI-D or HDMI-capable ... that would eliminate a section of
>>>>>the
>>>>>market. My TV, for example, only has component inputs. So I can tell
>>>>>you
>>>>>100% that I will not be buying an HD-DVD drive if it doesn't do HD
>>>>>resolutions via component output. And thanks to DMCA, I can't even buy a
>>>>>device anymore to do D-to-A since it would have to defeat copy
>>>>>protection
>>>>>to do so ... assuming I even wanted another conversion in my video.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rodolfo, anything to add? I know you were looking into this as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>>| | Walt Moody |
>>>>>| | <[email protected]>|
>>>>>| | Sent by: "HDTV |
>>>>>| | Magazine" |
>>>>>| | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>>>>>| | vehdtv.com> |
>>>>>| | |
>>>>>| | |
>>>>>| | 01/12/2006 03:41 PM |
>>>>>| | Please respond to |
>>>>>| | "HDTV Magazine" |
>>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------|
>>>>> |
>>>>>|
>>>>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>|
>>>>> | cc:
>>>>>|
>>>>> | Subject: 1080i over components
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Did anyone at CES get any solid intel on whether or not Blu-Ray or
>>>>>HD-DVD will end up allowing 1080i over the component outs? This will
>>>>>have a large influence over the direction I take with my HT as my
>>>>>current RPTV lacks either DVI or HDMI inputs. As I see it right now, I
>>>>>will get no benefit in my current system unless I can get 1080i over the
>>>>>component outs or the players have analog outs for DD-HD or DTS-HD.
>>>>>Don't misunderstand, I'm anxious foir the formats. That's the whole
>>>>>point, 1080i component outs would allow me to enjoy either format a lot
>>>>>sooner.
>>>>>
>>>>>Walt
>>>>>
>>>>>To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>>>>>
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>>>>>same
>>>>>day) send an email to:
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factor, etc ), a 480x720 good hi-bit DVD could look impressive compared to HD because you have not
seen all what 1080p HD can show yet, vertically and horizontally.
Plus you have not ever had it ISF calibrated. After all these years it is due for a tune up at minimum...
Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>Hugh,
>
>I am busy but I have to stop this ball.
>
>I went to the same booth 3 times, I disagree with this reporter.
>
>First of all no one that understands the concepts of resolution and HDTV could expect to notice
>differences on a 42" plasma viewing from 10 feet away, it is too far away to make judgments on such
>small screen.
>
>Second, the two plasma panels where not the new 1080p panels, the new 50" 1080p panel was across
>that setup (and he never mentions that), connected to a Blu-ray Elite player, the panels where the
>typical 1366x768, meaning a 1080x1920 content would be cut quite drastically horizontally and
>vertically (50% to be exact in temporal and spatial resolution), remember the content was 1080x1920p
>at 24 fps not 1080i 30.
>
>The plasma that showed the regular DVD version was obviously showing a degraded image, and I mean so
>degraded that it looked as they have tweaked the setup (and I told them that, pointing to all the
>uncommon DVD type of video imperfections) to show at its worst compared to the Blu-ray source, it
>actually looked like 480i horribly upscaled/deinterlaced within the plasma (not 480p coming from the
>player) and displayed with an intentional uncalibrated panel with strong contrast to accentuate the
>imperfections.
>
>Blue-ray could never have shown well the 2 million pixels it has on a panel that is limited to 1
>million.
>
>I wonder what this reporter knowledge is of what he/she writes, it is certainly the wrong person to
>write about, he obviously did not bother to check anything of the viewing systems he was witnessing.
>
>The best way to see 1080p content is on a 1080p set/plasma at the proper distance, he did not bother
>to do that.
>
>I am sorry that CNet has endorsed the article you read, it shows lack of knowledge on the
>technology, ignorance on the rules of viewing different resolutions, not to mention not checking the
>setup configuration of what he is viewing to make sure it was a fair comparison.
>
>Regarding your Elite TV (still excellent IMOP), it will also be unfair to judge a true 1080x1920p
>image on a set that has the limitations of CRT RPTV (in your case not more than 1400 lines of
>horizontal resolution in the best day, plus the vertical interlaced artifacts, the aliasing, Kell
>factor, etc ), a 480x720 good hi-bit DVD could look impressive compared to HD because you have not
>seen all what 1080p HD can show yet, vertically and horizontally.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>Hugh Campbell
>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:10 AM
>To: HDTV Magazine
>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>
>
>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>Just read a piece on CNET.com regarding the difference between Blu-Ray and
>480p which is in line with what I wrote below. In any event here are the
>comments from that piece. With this said I will be one of the first to buy
>whichever format looks like it will win assuming sufficient software. Just
>food for thought.
>
>"Probably the most interesting demo I saw at this year's show was Pioneer's
>display of two 42-inch plasmas side by side: one showing a DVD, the other a
>Blu-ray disc. I'm not sure what point the company was trying to make, but it
>was clear that if you stood about 8 to 10 feet back from the
>displays--normal viewing distance--it was pretty hard to tell the difference
>between the two movies. When you got within 3 feet of the screens, you could
>see that the Blu-ray movie was sharper, but it wasn't a huge leap. Pioneer,
>of course, is on the Blu-ray bandwagon, and its player won a Best of Show
>award in the home-video category, but the company rep agreed with my
>assessment that owning a Blu-ray player (or HD-DVD....ed. note) really made
>sense only for those with TVs of 50 inches or larger."
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:35 PM
>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>
>
>
>
>>Jason, yes but when I view D-VHS vs 480p I don't see that huge of a
>>difference. Better yes, but not along the lines of HD vs SD. Maybe it's
>>the movies I've used for comparison or perhaps D-VHS at 1080i is just not
>>that great. I'm hoping 1080p will really make a
>>difference............assuming we are able to buy movies in that format.
>>
>>Hugh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jason Burroughs" <[email protected]>
>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:58 PM
>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Hugh, actually aren't you talking about watching 1080i vs 480p on your
>>>TV?
>>>That should be quite a difference!
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>>Hugh Campbell
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:06 PM
>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>I've got the same problem but I can't believe they will release either
>>>player and not have it be able to output 1080i over component. Too many
>>>prospective customers with component only inputs. Of course the PQ
>>>difference is not all that great, not like HD vs SD, so I can wait. But
>>>since they can't agree on one format who knows what they may do.
>>>
>>>Hugh
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Walt Moody" <[email protected]>
>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:46 PM
>>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Sounds like we're in literally the same boat! I own the same set, a
>>>>WS65711, ISF calibrated and if I get rid of it, it will be for a
>>>>dedicated
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>room with a 1080p projector and a new audio system. I'd like to believe
>>>>I'll see an HD picture at home from a disc before it comes to that.
>>>>
>>>>Walt
>>>>
>>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Believe me I sympathize. I own a 2002 65" Mits Diamond and the picture
>>>>>is
>>>>>absolutely beautiful, particularly since I had it calibrated. It's been
>>>>>killing me thinking about the fact that I won't be able to take
>>>>>advantage
>>>>>of
>>>>>the new HD players using that set. I also purchased a 51" Hitachi with
>>>>>DVI
>>>>>in so that I wouldn't be cut out completely. But the situation in
>>>>>plain
>>>>>English, SUCKS!
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>>>>M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:31 PM
>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>About 6 years. I've seen it crop up several times in that span, but
>>>>>figured I would answer since the question was asked. Also, I own one of
>>>>>those older Mits (WS55805).
>>>>>
>>>>>The "conflicting information" I referred to relates to the new HD-DVD
>>>>>drive. Rodolfo and I received conflicting sets of information when we
>>>>>talked to their representatives at CES about whether 1080i was supported
>>>>>over component output. We are trying to verify that now and should have
>>>>>a
>>>>>(more) definitive answer soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>>| | "Anthony Rizzuto" |
>>>>>| | <[email protected]>|
>>>>>| | Sent by: "HDTV |
>>>>>| | Magazine" |
>>>>>| | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>>>>>| | vehdtv.com> |
>>>>>| | |
>>>>>| | |
>>>>>| | 01/12/2006 04:20 PM |
>>>>>| | Please respond to |
>>>>>| | "HDTV Magazine" |
>>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------|
>>>>> |
>>>>>|
>>>>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>|
>>>>> | cc:
>>>>>|
>>>>> | Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok, I'm not criticizing anyone and perhaps you and Walt are newer to the
>>>>>list than I thought, but we have been having this debate for over two
>>>>>years
>>>>>and the conclusion has always been the same, no HD over component. I
>>>>>have
>>>>>made the argument numerous times that it is unwise for the manufacturers
>>>>>to
>>>>>take this posistion as it will cut out at least thirty percent of their
>>>>>potential market and end up pissing off a lot of consumers etc, etc.
>>>>>Richard Fisher, myself and others even talked about a potential class
>>>>>action
>>>>>law suit against Mitsubishi for failing to make their sets upgradeable
>>>>>to
>>>>>DVI / HDMI. How long have you been a subscriber?
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>>>>M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:52 PM
>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>Subject: Re: 1080i over components
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There is conflicting information at the moment. But if I were a
>>>>>manufacturer, I would want to ensure that as many existing HDTV
>>>>>customers
>>>>>could use my product as possible. And since only a fraction of current
>>>>>HDTV's are DVI-D or HDMI-capable ... that would eliminate a section of
>>>>>the
>>>>>market. My TV, for example, only has component inputs. So I can tell
>>>>>you
>>>>>100% that I will not be buying an HD-DVD drive if it doesn't do HD
>>>>>resolutions via component output. And thanks to DMCA, I can't even buy a
>>>>>device anymore to do D-to-A since it would have to defeat copy
>>>>>protection
>>>>>to do so ... assuming I even wanted another conversion in my video.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rodolfo, anything to add? I know you were looking into this as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>>| | Walt Moody |
>>>>>| | <[email protected]>|
>>>>>| | Sent by: "HDTV |
>>>>>| | Magazine" |
>>>>>| | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>>>>>| | vehdtv.com> |
>>>>>| | |
>>>>>| | |
>>>>>| | 01/12/2006 03:41 PM |
>>>>>| | Please respond to |
>>>>>| | "HDTV Magazine" |
>>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------|
>>>>> |
>>>>>|
>>>>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>|
>>>>> | cc:
>>>>>|
>>>>> | Subject: 1080i over components
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Did anyone at CES get any solid intel on whether or not Blu-Ray or
>>>>>HD-DVD will end up allowing 1080i over the component outs? This will
>>>>>have a large influence over the direction I take with my HT as my
>>>>>current RPTV lacks either DVI or HDMI inputs. As I see it right now, I
>>>>>will get no benefit in my current system unless I can get 1080i over the
>>>>>component outs or the players have analog outs for DD-HD or DTS-HD.
>>>>>Don't misunderstand, I'm anxious foir the formats. That's the whole
>>>>>point, 1080i component outs would allow me to enjoy either format a lot
>>>>>sooner.
>>>>>
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