720p response to Eric

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Tom,

Yes it is.

But it is over 5 years old, if my memory does not fail me they made two generations in 1999/2000,
the first one I believe the model # was ending in 90, then they replaced it with the 95 a few months
later, I can not remember the difference at this time but it was something regarding connectivity,
but I remember myself complaining to the CES Panny reps for such disregard for consumers.

The following CES Panny techs told me that they had to abandon 720p on the sets because it was
costing them $500 (about 10% of the MSRP) to include such capability.

If you are getting one used think that the ability of native 720p might be negated by old CRTs that
have passed their life, a first generation line doubler, and a technology that has been superseded
several times already.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Tom Vrolyk
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:59 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: 720p response to Eric


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Rodolfo, Would this be one of the older models that
support 720p?
Panasonic PT-56WXF95

With all the Sports in 720p I would be interested in
finding one.

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/televisi ... spx#review
s

TIA TomV


--- Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]>
wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Eric,
>
> They were in existence, but stop production several
> years ago, one directvview backed by Joe Kane,
> another by Panasonic (56" RPTV that stopped
> production because it cost at least $500 more to
> produce
> and they could not be price competitive with a
> cheaper market that concentrated on 1080i, words
> from
> Panasonic).
>
> There are many CRT based direct-view and RPTV sets
> on the report, they all sync to 480p/540p and
> 1080i.
>
> Except for one slim CRT tube that claimed 1080ix1920
> capabilities (which I assume was a mistake on
> the specs at CES).
>
> Quantum possibilities over this subject is responded
> on another email.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf Of
> Erik Gaderlund
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:14 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Elite, DVI response to Jason, and
> Richard for CRT/DVI on
> FPTV
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> My question, will there be any new CRT RPTVs that
> are true multiscan
> (i.e. will they do 720P native, not converted)?
>
> erik g
>
>
> At 02:23 PM -0400 07/06/05, Rodolfo La Maestra
> wrote:
> >----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> >Richard,
> >
> >The answer is based on the lack of new CRT FPTVs,
> not their support
> >for DVI and HDMI, I am sure any
> >new CRT set, if made, would be suited with DVI or
> HDMI, like the
> >example of the Elite RPTV of Jason.
> >
> >You could check the first section of HD sets on the
> report to see if
> >you can find one CRT FPTV, I
> >will also do the same but I can anticipate that if
> there are any
> >would be only a handful of them.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >Rodolfo
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf Of
> >Richard
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:42 PM
> >To: HDTV Magazine
> >Subject: Re: Elite, DVI response to Jason, and
> Richard for CRT/DVI on
> >FPTV
> >
> >
> >----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > > can let you have, for example the VGA 15 pin
> would not allow you to
> >control color or tint from
> > > other than the service mode,
> >
> >In the older Pioneers it was a true RGB input so
> there were no color or
> >tint controls as it should be for a true VGA mode.
> >
> >I was speaking of new CRT FPTV having DVI/HDMI
> inputs (or any for that
> >matter). I gather the answer is no...?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Richard Fisher
> >www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> >A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
> >
> >Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> Jason,
> >>
> >> Interesting comment.
> >>
> >> Even when entering the signal digitally by using
> DVI and HDMI
> >>(both exactly the same bandwidth on
> >> the video part), the set has to convert that
> digital signal to
> >>analog to drive the tubes.
> >>
> >> In other words, it seems that the advantage of
> transporting the
> >>signal digitally as it came from
> >the
> >> source equipment is negatively diminished by the
> internal
> >>conversion to analog done by the set.
> >>
> >> On the other side, the source signal coming from
> a HD-STB or a DVD
> >>player would have to do a
> >digital
> >> to analog conversion to send the component
> analog version to the TV.
> >>
> >> So any method would end up in some kind of
> conversion for this
> >>set, and because chip
> >implementations
> >> are not created equal is always better to have
> different methods
> >>of connectivity (in the case of
> >> your Elite: component YPbPr, component 15 pin-D
> sub VGA, and HDMI,
> >>that set does not have DVI if
> >my
> >> memory serves me correctly). Trial and error
> would confirm which
> >>chip (TV or source equipment)
> >> /wire combination is the best choice for your
> set.
> >>
> >> Regarding your tweaking comment, another thing
> to consider is the
> >>limited controls either
> >connection
> >> can let you have, for example the VGA 15 pin
> would not allow you
> >>to control color or tint from
> >> other than the service mode, which is a nuisance
> because some HD
> >>programs might benefit when
> >> applying some minor adjustments (over the ISF
> calibration
> >>adjustments), so look into that factor
> >as
> >> well, your service provider might be
> inconsistent in colors/tint
> >>across the tier, and having such
> >> controls from the remote might become more
> important than a pure
> >>digital connection or a VGA
> >> connection.
> >>
> >> Tell you Dad not to give away that set, it was
> the top product of
> >>Pioneer Elite before they stop
> >> doing CRTs.
> >> ---------------
> >>
> >> Richard,
> >>
> >> I believe you were interested in only FPTV not
> RPTV, with DVI or
> >>HDMI, I am not sure I understood
> >> your use of the "not" in front of CRT, did you
> meant non CRT?
> >>
> >> CRT FPTVs are becoming like dinosaurs, I frankly
> have to look
> >>carefully at the report to identify
> >> them from the mass of non-CRT sets, all the
> hi-end FPTV companies
> >>like Runco, Faroudja, etc are
> >> moving out of CRTs.
> >>
> >> But one thing all the manufacturers have in
> common is that no one
> >>is manufacturing any display
> >> device that does not have either DVI or HDMI,
> and
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Tom,

If you are serious about this display Rodolfo has given you a fair
warning. An external scaler takes care of the internal one. I have never
calibrated one so I don't know how well this animal performs in terms of
detail. Many of these early boys were soft (CRT RPTV was at it's best
after about 2001 but that varied with brand and model over the last 4
years). All required a significant ISF calibration for peak performance.
I too would be very concerned with the light output of the CRTs with
this kind of age on them. Per ISF when they drop to 50% output you are
supposed to have them replaced. While the image will still be watchable
it will have lost much of it's initial luster and may not track color
temp correctly.

If you still wish to pursue this unit I would recommend you have it
checked out by a calibrator first.

Let me know and I will direct you to one.

Thanks

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Tom,
>
> Yes it is.
>
> But it is over 5 years old, if my memory does not fail me they made two generations in 1999/2000,
> the first one I believe the model # was ending in 90, then they replaced it with the 95 a few months
> later, I can not remember the difference at this time but it was something regarding connectivity,
> but I remember myself complaining to the CES Panny reps for such disregard for consumers.
>
> The following CES Panny techs told me that they had to abandon 720p on the sets because it was
> costing them $500 (about 10% of the MSRP) to include such capability.
>
> If you are getting one used think that the ability of native 720p might be negated by old CRTs that
> have passed their life, a first generation line doubler, and a technology that has been superseded
> several times already.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Tom Vrolyk
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:59 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: 720p response to Eric
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Rodolfo, Would this be one of the older models that
> support 720p?
> Panasonic PT-56WXF95
>
> With all the Sports in 720p I would be interested in
> finding one.
>
> http://www.audioreview.com/cat/televisi ... spx#review
> s
>
> TIA TomV
>
>
> --- Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Eric,
>>
>>They were in existence, but stop production several
>>years ago, one directvview backed by Joe Kane,
>>another by Panasonic (56" RPTV that stopped
>>production because it cost at least $500 more to
>>produce
>>and they could not be price competitive with a
>>cheaper market that concentrated on 1080i, words
>>from
>>Panasonic).
>>
>>There are many CRT based direct-view and RPTV sets
>>on the report, they all sync to 480p/540p and
>>1080i.
>>
>>Except for one slim CRT tube that claimed 1080ix1920
>>capabilities (which I assume was a mistake on
>>the specs at CES).
>>
>>Quantum possibilities over this subject is responded
>>on another email.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine
>>On Behalf Of
>>Erik Gaderlund
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:14 PM
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: Re: Elite, DVI response to Jason, and
>>Richard for CRT/DVI on
>>FPTV
>>
>>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>My question, will there be any new CRT RPTVs that
>>are true multiscan
>>(i.e. will they do 720P native, not converted)?
>>
>>erik g
>>
>>
>>At 02:23 PM -0400 07/06/05, Rodolfo La Maestra
>>wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Richard,
>>>
>>>The answer is based on the lack of new CRT FPTVs,
>>
>>not their support
>>
>>>for DVI and HDMI, I am sure any
>>>new CRT set, if made, would be suited with DVI or
>>
>>HDMI, like the
>>
>>>example of the Elite RPTV of Jason.
>>>
>>>You could check the first section of HD sets on the
>>
>>report to see if
>>
>>>you can find one CRT FPTV, I
>>>will also do the same but I can anticipate that if
>>
>>there are any
>>
>>>would be only a handful of them.
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>
>>>Rodolfo
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: HDTV Magazine
>>
>>On Behalf Of
>>
>>>Richard
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:42 PM
>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>Subject: Re: Elite, DVI response to Jason, and
>>
>>Richard for CRT/DVI on
>>
>>>FPTV
>>>
>>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> > can let you have, for example the VGA 15 pin
>>
>>would not allow you to
>>
>>>control color or tint from
>>> > other than the service mode,
>>>
>>>In the older Pioneers it was a true RGB input so
>>
>>there were no color or
>>
>>>tint controls as it should be for a true VGA mode.
>>>
>>>I was speaking of new CRT FPTV having DVI/HDMI
>>
>>inputs (or any for that
>>
>>>matter). I gather the answer is no...?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Richard Fisher
>>>www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
>>>A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>>>
>>>Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> Interesting comment.
>>>>
>>>> Even when entering the signal digitally by using
>>
>>DVI and HDMI
>>
>>>>(both exactly the same bandwidth on
>>>> the video part), the set has to convert that
>>
>>digital signal to
>>
>>>>analog to drive the tubes.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, it seems that the advantage of
>>
>>transporting the
>>
>>>>signal digitally as it came from
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>> source equipment is negatively diminished by the
>>
>>internal
>>
>>>>conversion to analog done by the set.
>>>>
>>>> On the other side, the source signal coming from
>>
>>a HD-STB or a DVD
>>
>>>>player would have to do a
>>>
>>>digital
>>>
>>>> to analog conversion to send the component
>>
>>analog version to the TV.
>>
>>>> So any method would end up in some kind of
>>
>>conversion for this
>>
>>>>set, and because chip
>>>
>>>implementations
>>>
>>>> are not created equal is always better to have
>>
>>different methods
>>
>>>>of connectivity (in the case of
>>>> your Elite: component YPbPr, component 15 pin-D
>>
>>sub VGA, and HDMI,
>>
>>>>that set does not have DVI if
>>>
>>>my
>>>
>>>> memory serves me correctly). Trial and error
>>
>>would confirm which
>>
>>>>chip (TV or source equipment)
>>>> /wire combination is the best choice for your
>>
>>set.
>>
>>>> Regarding your tweaking comment, another thing
>>
>>to consider is the
>>
>>>>limited controls either
>>>
>>>connection
>>>
>>>> can let you have, for example the VGA 15 pin
>>
>>would not allow you
>>
>>>>to control color or tint from
>>>> other than the service mode, which is a nuisance
>>
>>because some HD
>>
>>>>programs might benefit when
>>>> applying some minor adjustments (over the ISF
>>
>>calibration
>>
>>>>adjustments), so look into that factor
>>>
>>>as
>>>
>>>> well, your service provider might be
>>
>>inconsistent in colors/tint
>>
>>>>across the tier, and having such
>>>> controls from the remote might become more
>>
>>important than a pure
>>
>>>>digital connection or a VGA
>>>> connection.
>>>>
>>>> Tell you Dad not to give away that set, it was
>>
>>the top product of
>>
>>>>Pioneer Elite before they stop
>>>> doing CRTs.
>>>> ---------------
>>>>
>>>> Richard,
>>>>
>>>> I believe you were interested in only FPTV not
>>
>>RPTV, with DVI or
>>
>>>>HDMI, I am not sure I understood
>>>> your use of the "not" in front of CRT, did you
>>
>>meant non CRT?
>>
>>>> CRT FPTVs are becoming like dinosaurs, I frankly
>>
>>have to look
>>
>>>>carefully at the report to identify
>>>> them from the mass of non-CRT sets, all the
>>
>>hi-end FPTV companies
>>
>>>>like Runco, Faroudja, etc are
>>>> moving out of CRTs.
>>>>
>>>> But one thing all the manufacturers have in
>>
>>common is that no one
>>
>>>>is manufacturing any display
>>>> device that does not have either DVI or HDMI,
>>
>>and
>
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There were two Panasonic CRT RPTV models that supported 720p -- one was the
PT-56WFX95 and the other was a 65-inch model but I don't have the model
number handy.

The 90 model, which I own, doesn't do 720p. I think the connectivity issue
is probably specific to the 90 model, as it has only a single set of
component video inputs, and they only handled 480p and 1080i (no 480i). I
don't think this was an issue on later Panasonic models, such as the 95,
which did include at least two sets of component inputs.

Regards,


Doug
Clearly Resolved Image & Sound

Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993

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-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Richard
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 17:38
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: 720p response to Eric

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Tom,

If you are serious about this display Rodolfo has given you a fair
warning. An external scaler takes care of the internal one. I have never
calibrated one so I don't know how well this animal performs in terms of
detail. Many of these early boys were soft (CRT RPTV was at it's best
after about 2001 but that varied with brand and model over the last 4
years). All required a significant ISF calibration for peak performance.
I too would be very concerned with the light output of the CRTs with
this kind of age on them. Per ISF when they drop to 50% output you are
supposed to have them replaced. While the image will still be watchable
it will have lost much of it's initial luster and may not track color
temp correctly.

If you still wish to pursue this unit I would recommend you have it
checked out by a calibrator first.

Let me know and I will direct you to one.

Thanks

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Tom,
>
> Yes it is.
>
> But it is over 5 years old, if my memory does not fail me they made two
generations in 1999/2000,
> the first one I believe the model # was ending in 90, then they replaced
it with the 95 a few months
> later, I can not remember the difference at this time but it was something
regarding connectivity,
> but I remember myself complaining to the CES Panny reps for such disregard
for consumers.
>
> The following CES Panny techs told me that they had to abandon 720p on the
sets because it was
> costing them $500 (about 10% of the MSRP) to include such capability.
>
> If you are getting one used think that the ability of native 720p might be
negated by old CRTs that
> have passed their life, a first generation line doubler, and a technology
that has been superseded
> several times already.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Tom Vrolyk
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:59 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: 720p response to Eric
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Rodolfo, Would this be one of the older models that
> support 720p?
> Panasonic PT-56WXF95
>
> With all the Sports in 720p I would be interested in
> finding one.
>
>
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/televisi ... nic/PRD_12
1438_2727crx.aspx#review
> s
>
> TIA TomV
>
>
> --- Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Eric,
>>
>>They were in existence, but stop production several
>>years ago, one directvview backed by Joe Kane,
>>another by Panasonic (56" RPTV that stopped
>>production because it cost at least $500 more to
>>produce
>>and they could not be price competitive with a
>>cheaper market that concentrated on 1080i, words
>>from
>>Panasonic).
>>
>>There are many CRT based direct-view and RPTV sets
>>on the report, they all sync to 480p/540p and
>>1080i.
>>
>>Except for one slim CRT tube that claimed 1080ix1920
>>capabilities (which I assume was a mistake on
>>the specs at CES).
>>
>>Quantum possibilities over this subject is responded
>>on another email.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine
>>On Behalf Of
>>Erik Gaderlund
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:14 PM
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: Re: Elite, DVI response to Jason, and
>>Richard for CRT/DVI on
>>FPTV
>>
>>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>My question, will there be any new CRT RPTVs that
>>are true multiscan
>>(i.e. will they do 720P native, not converted)?
>>
>>erik g
>>
>>
>>At 02:23 PM -0400 07/06/05, Rodolfo La Maestra
>>wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Richard,
>>>
>>>The answer is based on the lack of new CRT FPTVs,
>>
>>not their support
>>
>>>for DVI and HDMI, I am sure any
>>>new CRT set, if made, would be suited with DVI or
>>
>>HDMI, like the
>>
>>>example of the Elite RPTV of Jason.
>>>
>>>You could check the first section of HD sets on the
>>
>>report to see if
>>
>>>you can find one CRT FPTV, I
>>>will also do the same but I can anticipate that if
>>
>>there are any
>>
>>>would be only a handful of them.
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>
>>>Rodolfo
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: HDTV Magazine
>>
>>On Behalf Of
>>
>>>Richard
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:42 PM
>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>Subject: Re: Elite, DVI response to Jason, and
>>
>>Richard for CRT/DVI on
>>
>>>FPTV
>>>
>>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> > can let you have, for example the VGA 15 pin
>>
>>would not allow you to
>>
>>>control color or tint from
>>> > other than the service mode,
>>>
>>>In the older Pioneers it was a true RGB input so
>>
>>there were no color or
>>
>>>tint controls as it should be for a true VGA mode.
>>>
>>>I was speaking of new CRT FPTV having DVI/HDMI
>>
>>inputs (or any for that
>>
>>>matter). I gather the answer is no...?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Richard Fisher
>>>www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
>>>A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>>>
>>>Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> Interesting comment.
>>>>
>>>> Even when entering the signal digitally by using
>>
>>DVI and HDMI
>>
>>>>(both exactly the same bandwidth on
>>>> the video part), the set has to convert that
>>
>>digital signal to
>>
>>>>analog to drive the tubes.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, it seems that the advantage of
>>
>>transporting the
>>
>>>>signal digitally as it came from
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>> source equipment is negatively diminished by the
>>
>>internal
>>
>>>>conversion to analog done by the set.
>>>>
>>>> On the other side, the source signal coming from
>>
>>a HD-STB or a DVD
>>
>>>>player would have to do a
>>>
>>>digital
>>>
>>>> to analog conversion to send the component
>>
>>analog version to the TV.
>>
>>>> So any method would end up in some kind of
>>
>>conversion for this
>>
>>>>set, and because chip
>>>
>>>implementations
>>>
>>>> are not created equal is always better to have
>>
>>different methods
>>
>>>>of connectivity (in the case of
>>>> your Elite: component YPbPr, component 15 pin-D
>>
>>sub VGA, and HDMI,
>>
>>>>that set does not have DVI if
>>>
>>>my
>>>
>>>> memory serves me correctly). Trial and error
>>
>>would confirm which
>>
>>>>chip (TV or source equipment)
>>>> /wire combination is the best choice for your
>>
>>set.
>>
>>>> Regarding your tweaking comment, another thing
>>
>>to consider is the
>>
>>>>limited controls either
>>>
>>>connection
>>>
>>>> can let you have, for example the VGA 15 pin
>>
>>would not allow you
>>
>>>>to control color or tint from
>>>> other than the service mode, which is a nuisance
>>
>>because some HD
>>
>>>>programs might benefit when
>>>> applying some minor adjustments (over the ISF
>>
>>calibration
>>
>>>>adjustments), so look into that factor
>>>
>>>as
>>>
>>>> well, your service provider might be
>>
>>inconsistent in colors/tint
>>
>>>>across the tier, and having such
>>>> controls from the remote might become more
>>
>>important than a pure
>>
>>>>digital connection or a VGA
>>>> connection.
>>>>
>>>> Tell you Dad not to give away that set, it was
>>
>>the top product of
>>
>>>>Pioneer Elite before they stop
>>>> doing CRTs.
>>>> ---------------
>>>>
>>>> Richard,
>>>>
>>>> I believe you were interested in only FPTV not
>>
>>RPTV, with DVI or
>>
>>>>HDMI, I am not sure I understood
>>>> your use of the "not" in front of CRT, did you
>>
>>meant non CRT?
>>
>>>> CRT FPTVs are becoming like dinosaurs, I frankly
>>
>>have to look
>>
>>>>carefully at the report to identify
>>>> them from the mass of non-CRT sets, all the
>>
>>hi-end FPTV companies
>>
>>>>like Runco, Faroudja, etc are
>>>> moving out of CRTs.
>>>>
>>>> But one thing all the manufacturers have in
>>
>>common is that no one
>>
>>>>is manufacturing any display
>>>> device that does not have either DVI or HDMI,
>>
>>and
>
> === message truncated ===
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Thanks guys,
Richard are the old CRT guns replacable and how much
would you estimate..their $
It sounds like fun project if you could find one in
decent shape. Moving these RPTVs is a Job also,
correct? Have to have it cleaned and ISF'd after a
move anyway correct?

I think I will wait for a fast LCD or go the DLP
route
TomV

--- Doug Weil <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> There were two Panasonic CRT RPTV models that
> supported 720p -- one was the
> PT-56WFX95 and the other was a 65-inch model but I
> don't have the model
> number handy.
>
> The 90 model, which I own, doesn't do 720p. I think
> the connectivity issue
> is probably specific to the 90 model, as it has only
> a single set of
> component video inputs, and they only handled 480p
> and 1080i (no 480i). I
> don't think this was an issue on later Panasonic
> models, such as the 95,
> which did include at least two sets of component
> inputs.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Doug
> Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
>
> Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
>
> eMail: [email protected]
> Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
>
> Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
> http://www.imagingscience.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf
> Of
> Richard
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 17:38
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: 720p response to Eric
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Tom,
>
> If you are serious about this display Rodolfo has
> given you a fair
> warning. An external scaler takes care of the
> internal one. I have never
> calibrated one so I don't know how well this animal
> performs in terms of
> detail. Many of these early boys were soft (CRT RPTV
> was at it's best
> after about 2001 but that varied with brand and
> model over the last 4
> years). All required a significant ISF calibration
> for peak performance.
> I too would be very concerned with the light output
> of the CRTs with
> this kind of age on them. Per ISF when they drop to
> 50% output you are
> supposed to have them replaced. While the image will
> still be watchable
> it will have lost much of it's initial luster and
> may not track color
> temp correctly.
>
> If you still wish to pursue this unit I would
> recommend you have it
> checked out by a calibrator first.
>
> Let me know and I will direct you to one.
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Yes it is.
> >
> > But it is over 5 years old, if my memory does not
> fail me they made two
> generations in 1999/2000,
> > the first one I believe the model # was ending in
> 90, then they replaced
> it with the 95 a few months
> > later, I can not remember the difference at this
> time but it was something
> regarding connectivity,
> > but I remember myself complaining to the CES Panny
> reps for such disregard
> for consumers.
> >
> > The following CES Panny techs told me that they
> had to abandon 720p on the
> sets because it was
> > costing them $500 (about 10% of the MSRP) to
> include such capability.
> >
> > If you are getting one used think that the ability
> of native 720p might be
> negated by old CRTs that
> > have passed their life, a first generation line
> doubler, and a technology
> that has been superseded
> > several times already.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Rodolfo La Maestra
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf Of
> > Tom Vrolyk
> > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:59 PM
> > To: HDTV Magazine
> > Subject: Re: 720p response to Eric
> >
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Rodolfo, Would this be one of the older models
> that
> > support 720p?
> > Panasonic PT-56WXF95
> >
> > With all the Sports in 720p I would be interested
> in
> > finding one.
> >
> >
>
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/televisi ... nic/PRD_12
> 1438_2727crx.aspx#review
> > s
> >
> > TIA TomV
> >
> >
> > --- Rodolfo La Maestra
> <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >>Eric,
> >>
> >>They were in existence, but stop production
> several
> >>years ago, one directvview backed by Joe Kane,
> >>another by Panasonic (56" RPTV that stopped
> >>production because it cost at least $500 more to
> >>produce
> >>and they could not be price competitive with a
> >>cheaper market that concentrated on 1080i, words
> >>from
> >>Panasonic).
> >>
> >>There are many CRT based direct-view and RPTV sets
> >>on the report, they all sync to 480p/540p and
> >>1080i.
> >>
> >>Except for one slim CRT tube that claimed
> 1080ix1920
> >>capabilities (which I assume was a mistake on
> >>the specs at CES).
> >>
> >>Quantum possibilities over this subject is
> responded
> >>on another email.
> >>
> >>Best Regards,
> >>
> >>Rodolfo La Maestra
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: HDTV Magazine
> >>On Behalf
> Of
> >>Erik Gaderlund
> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:14 PM
> >>To: HDTV Magazine
> >>Subject: Re: Elite, DVI response to Jason, and
> >>Richard for CRT/DVI on
> >>FPTV
> >>
> >>
> >>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
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Tom,

It appears you are not looking for an answer...



but... without pricing those a set of tubes for an up to 4 year old Mits
is about &750, plus install labor figuring about $350 or more tuned to
factory specs which is pretty loose.

Cleaning and ISF is always recommended.

Moving an RPTV and upsetting everything is largely a myth. CRT RPTV is
sensitive to the earths magnetic field and can only be optimized for one
direction. Change the direction and you must recenter, static
convergence, at minimum which is why all have that feature at minimum.
After centering there is a very good chance the dynamic convergence will
need to be touched up as well, all the other parts of the picture that
is not in the center. This is not always available in the consumer menu
and varies by manufacturer and manufacturing date.

Convergence is also sensitive to magnetic fields such as subwoofers and
speakers if you have them near the display and they are unshielded.

Thanks

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Tom Vrolyk wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Thanks guys,
> Richard are the old CRT guns replacable and how much
> would you estimate..their $
> It sounds like fun project if you could find one in
> decent shape. Moving these RPTVs is a Job also,
> correct? Have to have it cleaned and ISF'd after a
> move anyway correct?
>
> I think I will wait for a fast LCD or go the DLP
> route
> TomV
>
> --- Doug Weil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>There were two Panasonic CRT RPTV models that
>>supported 720p -- one was the
>>PT-56WFX95 and the other was a 65-inch model but I
>>don't have the model
>>number handy.
>>
>>The 90 model, which I own, doesn't do 720p. I think
>>the connectivity issue
>>is probably specific to the 90 model, as it has only
>>a single set of
>>component video inputs, and they only handled 480p
>>and 1080i (no 480i). I
>>don't think this was an issue on later Panasonic
>>models, such as the 95,
>>which did include at least two sets of component
>>inputs.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
>>Doug
>>Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
>>
>>Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
>>Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
>>
>>eMail: [email protected]
>>Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
>>
>>Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
>>http://www.imagingscience.com
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine
>> On Behalf
>>Of
>>Richard
>>Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 17:38
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: Re: 720p response to Eric
>>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Tom,
>>
>>If you are serious about this display Rodolfo has
>>given you a fair
>>warning. An external scaler takes care of the
>>internal one. I have never
>>calibrated one so I don't know how well this animal
>>performs in terms of
>>detail. Many of these early boys were soft (CRT RPTV
>>was at it's best
>>after about 2001 but that varied with brand and
>>model over the last 4
>>years). All required a significant ISF calibration
>>for peak performance.
>>I too would be very concerned with the light output
>>of the CRTs with
>>this kind of age on them. Per ISF when they drop to
>>50% output you are
>>supposed to have them replaced. While the image will
>>still be watchable
>>it will have lost much of it's initial luster and
>>may not track color
>>temp correctly.
>>
>>If you still wish to pursue this unit I would
>>recommend you have it
>>checked out by a calibrator first.
>>
>>Let me know and I will direct you to one.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Richard Fisher
>>www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
>>A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>>
>>Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>Yes it is.
>>>
>>>But it is over 5 years old, if my memory does not
>>
>>fail me they made two
>>generations in 1999/2000,
>>
>>>the first one I believe the model # was ending in
>>
>>90, then they replaced
>>it with the 95 a few months
>>
>>>later, I can not remember the difference at this
>>
>>time but it was something
>>regarding connectivity,
>>
>>>but I remember myself complaining to the CES Panny
>>
>>reps for such disregard
>>for consumers.
>>
>>>The following CES Panny techs told me that they
>>
>>had to abandon 720p on the
>>sets because it was
>>
>>>costing them $500 (about 10% of the MSRP) to
>>
>>include such capability.
>>
>>>If you are getting one used think that the ability
>>
>>of native 720p might be
>>negated by old CRTs that
>>
>>>have passed their life, a first generation line
>>
>>doubler, and a technology
>>that has been superseded
>>
>>>several times already.
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>
>>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: HDTV Magazine
>>
>>On Behalf Of
>>
>>>Tom Vrolyk
>>>Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:59 PM
>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>Subject: Re: 720p response to Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Rodolfo, Would this be one of the older models
>>
>>that
>>
>>>support 720p?
>>>Panasonic PT-56WXF95
>>>
>>>With all the Sports in 720p I would be interested
>>
>>in
>>
>>>finding one.
>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.audioreview.com/cat/televisi ... nic/PRD_12
>
>>1438_2727crx.aspx#review
>>
>>>s
>>>
>>>TIA TomV
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Rodolfo La Maestra
>>
>><[email protected]>
>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Eric,
>>>>
>>>>They were in existence, but stop production
>>
>>several
>>
>>>>years ago, one directvview backed by Joe Kane,
>>>>another by Panasonic (56" RPTV that stopped
>>>>production because it cost at least $500 more to
>>>>produce
>>>>and they could not be price competitive with a
>>>>cheaper market that concentrated on 1080i, words
>>>>from
>>>>Panasonic).
>>>>
>>>>There are many CRT based direct-view and RPTV sets
>>>>on the report, they all sync to 480p/540p and
>>>>1080i.
>>>>
>>>>Except for one slim CRT tube that claimed
>>
>>1080ix1920
>>
>>>>capabilities (which I assume was a mistake on
>>>>the specs at CES).
>>>>
>>>>Quantum possibilities over this subject is
>>
>>responded
>>
>>>>on another email.
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: HDTV Magazine
>>>>On Behalf
>>
>>Of
>>
>>>>Erik Gaderlund
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:14 PM
>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>Subject: Re: Elite, DVI response to Jason, and
>>>>Richard for CRT/DVI on
>>>>FPTV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
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