A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p

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#1
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Well Rodolfo,

It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
set that is CRT based.
It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is not
completely dead.
Who is Brillian and where are they based?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are capable
to accept 1080p
externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
from external scalers
that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).

I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
mentioned that the vast
majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
"who claims" 1080p 24fps
acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
believe, it needs to be
correctly validated when the sets become available.

I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about to
release on a 1080p
article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
could give the heads up to
all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.

According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
actually accept 1080p as
24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact MSRP
has not been
established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.

I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
comments, but the world is
never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing of
video content does not
employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such technique
for 480i to 1080p
images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
1080i image and upscales it
to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.

In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
sophisticated manner
indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I mentioned
on other emails they are
not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL do
pixel by pixel motion
adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.

I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout of
1080p sets (and I
believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
promising for its 1080p
acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix to
improve the image, but,
as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second generation
might be a better
choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
(and they do not mind to
wait)".

Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I am
not discouraging first
time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not recommending
for them to wait and
hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
1080p sets arrive, my
recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
enjoying HDTV and want to
upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".

When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD DVD
and Blu ray) will do
their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i over
analog component to
respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
affect the simple decision to
wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



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#2
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Anthony,

Brillian is a LCoS manufacturer, the set I described is LCoS not CRT.

In theory, and in practice, there is no sense on accepting a 1080p signal on a CRT (of the ones that
are for the classic consumer) that already has a hard time in resolving a good part of a 1080i
signal, vertically and horizontally.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:11 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Well Rodolfo,

It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
set that is CRT based.
It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is not
completely dead.
Who is Brillian and where are they based?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are capable
to accept 1080p
externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
from external scalers
that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).

I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
mentioned that the vast
majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
"who claims" 1080p 24fps
acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
believe, it needs to be
correctly validated when the sets become available.

I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about to
release on a 1080p
article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
could give the heads up to
all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.

According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
actually accept 1080p as
24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact MSRP
has not been
established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.

I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
comments, but the world is
never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing of
video content does not
employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such technique
for 480i to 1080p
images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
1080i image and upscales it
to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.

In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
sophisticated manner
indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I mentioned
on other emails they are
not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL do
pixel by pixel motion
adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.

I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout of
1080p sets (and I
believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
promising for its 1080p
acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix to
improve the image, but,
as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second generation
might be a better
choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
(and they do not mind to
wait)".

Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I am
not discouraging first
time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not recommending
for them to wait and
hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
1080p sets arrive, my
recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
enjoying HDTV and want to
upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".

When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD DVD
and Blu ray) will do
their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i over
analog component to
respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
affect the simple decision to
wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



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#3
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So are you saying the format (RP CRT) has issues because of the way the
technology works resolving 1080i and that the problem would only be
exacerbated with a 1080P signal?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:47 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony,

Brillian is a LCoS manufacturer, the set I described is LCoS not CRT.

In theory, and in practice, there is no sense on accepting a 1080p signal on
a CRT (of the ones that
are for the classic consumer) that already has a hard time in resolving a
good part of a 1080i
signal, vertically and horizontally.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:11 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Well Rodolfo,

It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
set that is CRT based.
It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is not
completely dead.
Who is Brillian and where are they based?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are capable
to accept 1080p
externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
from external scalers
that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).

I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
mentioned that the vast
majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
"who claims" 1080p 24fps
acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
believe, it needs to be
correctly validated when the sets become available.

I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about to
release on a 1080p
article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
could give the heads up to
all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.

According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
actually accept 1080p as
24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact MSRP
has not been
established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.

I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
comments, but the world is
never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing of
video content does not
employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such technique
for 480i to 1080p
images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
1080i image and upscales it
to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.

In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
sophisticated manner
indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I mentioned
on other emails they are
not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL do
pixel by pixel motion
adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.

I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout of
1080p sets (and I
believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
promising for its 1080p
acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix to
improve the image, but,
as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second generation
might be a better
choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
(and they do not mind to
wait)".

Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I am
not discouraging first
time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not recommending
for them to wait and
hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
1080p sets arrive, my
recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
enjoying HDTV and want to
upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".

When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD DVD
and Blu ray) will do
their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i over
analog component to
respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
affect the simple decision to
wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



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#4
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Brillian agreed a couple of weeks ago to be purchased by Syntax Groups Corp.
Had this not occurred Brillian would not be able to go forward as they were
hemorrhaging money with no income. The CEO of Brillian will be the survivor
when the merger is completed. Syntax manufactures LCD televisions and
Olevia is one of their brands. I believe they will manufacture TVs in
Mexico but it will still be tough to compete with the Japanese, Chinese and
Koreans.

Hugh


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> So are you saying the format (RP CRT) has issues because of the way the
> technology works resolving 1080i and that the problem would only be
> exacerbated with a 1080P signal?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Rodolfo La Maestra
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:47 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Anthony,
>
> Brillian is a LCoS manufacturer, the set I described is LCoS not CRT.
>
> In theory, and in practice, there is no sense on accepting a 1080p signal
> on
> a CRT (of the ones that
> are for the classic consumer) that already has a hard time in resolving a
> good part of a 1080i
> signal, vertically and horizontally.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Well Rodolfo,
>
> It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
> set that is CRT based.
> It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is
> not
> completely dead.
> Who is Brillian and where are they based?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Rodolfo La Maestra
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are
> capable
> to accept 1080p
> externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
> from external scalers
> that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).
>
> I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
> mentioned that the vast
> majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
> "who claims" 1080p 24fps
> acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
> believe, it needs to be
> correctly validated when the sets become available.
>
> I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about
> to
> release on a 1080p
> article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
> could give the heads up to
> all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.
>
> According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
> actually accept 1080p as
> 24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact
> MSRP
> has not been
> established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.
>
> I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
> comments, but the world is
> never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing
> of
> video content does not
> employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such
> technique
> for 480i to 1080p
> images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
> 1080i image and upscales it
> to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.
>
> In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
> sophisticated manner
> indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I
> mentioned
> on other emails they are
> not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL
> do
> pixel by pixel motion
> adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.
>
> I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout
> of
> 1080p sets (and I
> believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
> promising for its 1080p
> acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix
> to
> improve the image, but,
> as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second
> generation
> might be a better
> choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
> (and they do not mind to
> wait)".
>
> Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I
> am
> not discouraging first
> time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not
> recommending
> for them to wait and
> hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
> 1080p sets arrive, my
> recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
> enjoying HDTV and want to
> upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".
>
> When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD
> DVD
> and Blu ray) will do
> their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i
> over
> analog component to
> respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
> affect the simple decision to
> wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
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#5
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Anthony,

No.

I am not saying that accepting 1080p would exacerbate the problem, I am saying that CRT has already
its limitations to display 1080i, feeding a 1080p signal when the display has with such limitation
is not going to provide you more than what the set can do already, a limited 1080i version of the
image (about 700 lines vertically due to Kell factor, and 1200 lines horizontally, both varying
plus-minus depending how good the manufacturer designed the set).

Additionally, in order to display a 1080p signal a CRT has to double up the raster speed which is a
feature available in only high quality projectors, no RPTV CRT sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:02 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

So are you saying the format (RP CRT) has issues because of the way the
technology works resolving 1080i and that the problem would only be
exacerbated with a 1080P signal?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:47 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony,

Brillian is a LCoS manufacturer, the set I described is LCoS not CRT.

In theory, and in practice, there is no sense on accepting a 1080p signal on
a CRT (of the ones that
are for the classic consumer) that already has a hard time in resolving a
good part of a 1080i
signal, vertically and horizontally.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:11 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Well Rodolfo,

It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
set that is CRT based.
It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is not
completely dead.
Who is Brillian and where are they based?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are capable
to accept 1080p
externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
from external scalers
that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).

I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
mentioned that the vast
majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
"who claims" 1080p 24fps
acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
believe, it needs to be
correctly validated when the sets become available.

I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about to
release on a 1080p
article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
could give the heads up to
all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.

According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
actually accept 1080p as
24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact MSRP
has not been
established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.

I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
comments, but the world is
never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing of
video content does not
employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such technique
for 480i to 1080p
images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
1080i image and upscales it
to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.

In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
sophisticated manner
indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I mentioned
on other emails they are
not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL do
pixel by pixel motion
adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.

I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout of
1080p sets (and I
believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
promising for its 1080p
acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix to
improve the image, but,
as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second generation
might be a better
choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
(and they do not mind to
wait)".

Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I am
not discouraging first
time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not recommending
for them to wait and
hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
1080p sets arrive, my
recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
enjoying HDTV and want to
upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".

When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD DVD
and Blu ray) will do
their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i over
analog component to
respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
affect the simple decision to
wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



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#6
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Hugh,

Anything could happen in this industry, but I talked to the CEO and also their Vice president of
marketing last week and both stated that the company is already working into the second generation
of LCoS sets. They will not be alone in the multiple technology bandwagon.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:16 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Brillian agreed a couple of weeks ago to be purchased by Syntax Groups Corp.
Had this not occurred Brillian would not be able to go forward as they were
hemorrhaging money with no income. The CEO of Brillian will be the survivor
when the merger is completed. Syntax manufactures LCD televisions and
Olevia is one of their brands. I believe they will manufacture TVs in
Mexico but it will still be tough to compete with the Japanese, Chinese and
Koreans.

Hugh


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> So are you saying the format (RP CRT) has issues because of the way the
> technology works resolving 1080i and that the problem would only be
> exacerbated with a 1080P signal?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Rodolfo La Maestra
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:47 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Anthony,
>
> Brillian is a LCoS manufacturer, the set I described is LCoS not CRT.
>
> In theory, and in practice, there is no sense on accepting a 1080p signal
> on
> a CRT (of the ones that
> are for the classic consumer) that already has a hard time in resolving a
> good part of a 1080i
> signal, vertically and horizontally.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Well Rodolfo,
>
> It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
> set that is CRT based.
> It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is
> not
> completely dead.
> Who is Brillian and where are they based?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Rodolfo La Maestra
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are
> capable
> to accept 1080p
> externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
> from external scalers
> that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).
>
> I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
> mentioned that the vast
> majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
> "who claims" 1080p 24fps
> acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
> believe, it needs to be
> correctly validated when the sets become available.
>
> I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about
> to
> release on a 1080p
> article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
> could give the heads up to
> all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.
>
> According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
> actually accept 1080p as
> 24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact
> MSRP
> has not been
> established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.
>
> I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
> comments, but the world is
> never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing
> of
> video content does not
> employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such
> technique
> for 480i to 1080p
> images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
> 1080i image and upscales it
> to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.
>
> In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
> sophisticated manner
> indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I
> mentioned
> on other emails they are
> not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL
> do
> pixel by pixel motion
> adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.
>
> I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout
> of
> 1080p sets (and I
> believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
> promising for its 1080p
> acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix
> to
> improve the image, but,
> as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second
> generation
> might be a better
> choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
> (and they do not mind to
> wait)".
>
> Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I
> am
> not discouraging first
> time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not
> recommending
> for them to wait and
> hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
> 1080p sets arrive, my
> recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
> enjoying HDTV and want to
> upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".
>
> When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD
> DVD
> and Blu ray) will do
> their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i
> over
> analog component to
> respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
> affect the simple decision to
> wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
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#7
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Rodolfo,

Has there ever been a response about why Pioneer seems to firmly committed
to Plasma only?

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:28 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Hugh,

Anything could happen in this industry, but I talked to the CEO and also
their Vice president of
marketing last week and both stated that the company is already working into
the second generation
of LCoS sets. They will not be alone in the multiple technology bandwagon.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:16 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Brillian agreed a couple of weeks ago to be purchased by Syntax Groups Corp.
Had this not occurred Brillian would not be able to go forward as they were
hemorrhaging money with no income. The CEO of Brillian will be the survivor
when the merger is completed. Syntax manufactures LCD televisions and
Olevia is one of their brands. I believe they will manufacture TVs in
Mexico but it will still be tough to compete with the Japanese, Chinese and
Koreans.

Hugh


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> So are you saying the format (RP CRT) has issues because of the way the
> technology works resolving 1080i and that the problem would only be
> exacerbated with a 1080P signal?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Rodolfo La Maestra
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:47 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Anthony,
>
> Brillian is a LCoS manufacturer, the set I described is LCoS not CRT.
>
> In theory, and in practice, there is no sense on accepting a 1080p signal
> on
> a CRT (of the ones that
> are for the classic consumer) that already has a hard time in resolving a
> good part of a 1080i
> signal, vertically and horizontally.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Well Rodolfo,
>
> It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
> set that is CRT based.
> It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is
> not
> completely dead.
> Who is Brillian and where are they based?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Rodolfo La Maestra
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are
> capable
> to accept 1080p
> externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
> from external scalers
> that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).
>
> I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
> mentioned that the vast
> majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
> "who claims" 1080p 24fps
> acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
> believe, it needs to be
> correctly validated when the sets become available.
>
> I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about
> to
> release on a 1080p
> article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
> could give the heads up to
> all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.
>
> According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
> actually accept 1080p as
> 24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact
> MSRP
> has not been
> established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.
>
> I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
> comments, but the world is
> never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing
> of
> video content does not
> employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such
> technique
> for 480i to 1080p
> images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
> 1080i image and upscales it
> to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.
>
> In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
> sophisticated manner
> indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I
> mentioned
> on other emails they are
> not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL
> do
> pixel by pixel motion
> adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.
>
> I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout
> of
> 1080p sets (and I
> believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
> promising for its 1080p
> acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix
> to
> improve the image, but,
> as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second
> generation
> might be a better
> choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
> (and they do not mind to
> wait)".
>
> Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I
> am
> not discouraging first
> time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not
> recommending
> for them to wait and
> hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
> 1080p sets arrive, my
> recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
> enjoying HDTV and want to
> upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".
>
> When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD
> DVD
> and Blu ray) will do
> their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i
> over
> analog component to
> respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
> affect the simple decision to
> wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
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#8
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I'm sorry Rodolfo. I didn't phrase the question correctly but you answered
it regardless. So you are saying that the ability to reproduce a 1080i
image properly is beyond the technology of CRT RP, never mind 1080P. So
using that as a given, what in your opinion is the best format within the
consumer market for this purpose, and further which will provide the overall
best blacks at the same time?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:23 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony,

No.

I am not saying that accepting 1080p would exacerbate the problem, I am
saying that CRT has already
its limitations to display 1080i, feeding a 1080p signal when the display
has with such limitation
is not going to provide you more than what the set can do already, a limited
1080i version of the
image (about 700 lines vertically due to Kell factor, and 1200 lines
horizontally, both varying
plus-minus depending how good the manufacturer designed the set).

Additionally, in order to display a 1080p signal a CRT has to double up the
raster speed which is a
feature available in only high quality projectors, no RPTV CRT sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:02 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

So are you saying the format (RP CRT) has issues because of the way the
technology works resolving 1080i and that the problem would only be
exacerbated with a 1080P signal?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:47 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony,

Brillian is a LCoS manufacturer, the set I described is LCoS not CRT.

In theory, and in practice, there is no sense on accepting a 1080p signal on
a CRT (of the ones that
are for the classic consumer) that already has a hard time in resolving a
good part of a 1080i
signal, vertically and horizontally.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:11 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Well Rodolfo,

It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
set that is CRT based.
It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is not
completely dead.
Who is Brillian and where are they based?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are capable
to accept 1080p
externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
from external scalers
that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).

I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
mentioned that the vast
majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
"who claims" 1080p 24fps
acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
believe, it needs to be
correctly validated when the sets become available.

I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about to
release on a 1080p
article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
could give the heads up to
all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.

According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
actually accept 1080p as
24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact MSRP
has not been
established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.

I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
comments, but the world is
never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing of
video content does not
employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such technique
for 480i to 1080p
images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
1080i image and upscales it
to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.

In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
sophisticated manner
indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I mentioned
on other emails they are
not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL do
pixel by pixel motion
adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.

I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout of
1080p sets (and I
believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
promising for its 1080p
acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix to
improve the image, but,
as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second generation
might be a better
choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
(and they do not mind to
wait)".

Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I am
not discouraging first
time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not recommending
for them to wait and
hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
1080p sets arrive, my
recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
enjoying HDTV and want to
upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".

When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD DVD
and Blu ray) will do
their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i over
analog component to
respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
affect the simple decision to
wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



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#9
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Anthony,

There are 9" CRTs RPTVs (in addition to high end FPTV) that do a better job that the main stream 7"
tube CRT of most RPTVs, those would give you excellent blacks.

Other than that, comparing 1080p sets "today" is a bit premature to classify them as best technology
against each other. Any more reassuring statement would be a bit irresponsible from my part,
especially because many of those sets are not out yet (to been able to confirm the theory with my
eyes).

I compared the Sony Qualia, the Samsung, the TI's DLP RPTV (not for sale), and the JVC DILA, and I
already mentioned the details of that comparison a few months ago upon my return from CES. TI's was
the best (DLP), JVC was second, Sony and Samsung were sharing the third place. I viewed the Sony
and Samsung again recently and I still noticed the same characteristics (to call it nicely) that
gave their 3rd place, but for $4500 the Samsung 61" is definitely a great buy, as opposed to the
$13K Qualia that is definitely NOT 3 times as good. I could not see the DILA again (expected for
Sep).

I also viewed 1080p LCD panels, and oversized plasmas from Samsung and LG and they were stunning,
but part of that reaction is the incredible feeling of seeing such a big panel in a wall. By the
way the $75K LG 71" demo at CES came out as $49K on the web, so I assume that the 80" Samsung
anticipated for $39K would come out probably to less than $30K, perhaps $25K.

I would suspect than SED (Toshiba/Canon) would be the best one in blacks when out in 2007 because is
using the principles of CRT and plasma together. It is frankly too early to make any more
statements other than "I suspect" or "it could be assumed", why? by 2007 a lot can happen to the 3rd
generations of everyone else, so I would leave SED out, if the question is based on the technology
"available today".

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra





-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 3:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I'm sorry Rodolfo. I didn't phrase the question correctly but you answered
it regardless. So you are saying that the ability to reproduce a 1080i
image properly is beyond the technology of CRT RP, never mind 1080P. So
using that as a given, what in your opinion is the best format within the
consumer market for this purpose, and further which will provide the overall
best blacks at the same time?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:23 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony,

No.

I am not saying that accepting 1080p would exacerbate the problem, I am
saying that CRT has already
its limitations to display 1080i, feeding a 1080p signal when the display
has with such limitation
is not going to provide you more than what the set can do already, a limited
1080i version of the
image (about 700 lines vertically due to Kell factor, and 1200 lines
horizontally, both varying
plus-minus depending how good the manufacturer designed the set).

Additionally, in order to display a 1080p signal a CRT has to double up the
raster speed which is a
feature available in only high quality projectors, no RPTV CRT sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:02 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

So are you saying the format (RP CRT) has issues because of the way the
technology works resolving 1080i and that the problem would only be
exacerbated with a 1080P signal?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:47 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony,

Brillian is a LCoS manufacturer, the set I described is LCoS not CRT.

In theory, and in practice, there is no sense on accepting a 1080p signal on
a CRT (of the ones that
are for the classic consumer) that already has a hard time in resolving a
good part of a 1080i
signal, vertically and horizontally.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:11 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Well Rodolfo,

It's at least encouraging that someone is considering building a 1080p RP
set that is CRT based.
It tells me that there is still enough interest in the format that it is not
completely dead.
Who is Brillian and where are they based?

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:04 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tip: A 1080p RPTV that accepts 1080p


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Some of you asked me for recommendations of RPTV 1080p sets that are capable
to accept 1080p
externally (for the soon to be available Hi Def DVD or for inputting 1080p
from external scalers
that perform better than the TV video deinterlacer).

I wrote 35 pages (14000 words) about the 1080p subject in the Tips List, I
mentioned that the vast
majority does not support 1080p acceptance, with the exception from Mitsu
"who claims" 1080p 24fps
acceptance. As with everything with this industry, I have to see to
believe, it needs to be
correctly validated when the sets become available.

I am currently working with Brillian to include a RPTV set they are about to
release on a 1080p
article that I am drafting, and because this is a "tips" list I thought I
could give the heads up to
all, and they would not mind the publicity of course.

According to Brillian, their soon to be released (Oct) 65" 1080p set DOES
actually accept 1080p as
24/30/60 fps, in addition to several PC related resolutions. The exact MSRP
has not been
established yet but they are thinking in the $8-10K range.

I do not want to sound either too optimistic nor too negative with my
comments, but the world is
never perfect, you should be made aware that the 1080i to p deinterlacing of
video content does not
employ pixel by pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing (they use such technique
for 480i to 1080p
images only). This means that the set takes each 540x1920 field of the
1080i image and upscales it
to the 1080x1920p LCoS matrix, every 1/60.

In simple words, it "creates" additional 540 lines on its own, in a very
sophisticated manner
indeed, using 320 FIR filters, but that is what it does, and as I mentioned
on other emails they are
not alone on using the 540 to 1080 technique. Their next generation WILL do
pixel by pixel motion
adaptive deinterlacing of 1080i processing.

I have not seen the set yet, and I was told that WSR is doing a shootout of
1080p sets (and I
believe they said they ended up with a second place). The set seems
promising for its 1080p
acceptance and the way they use analog to interact with the pixel matrix to
improve the image, but,
as with most of the other 1080p competitors, waiting for a second generation
might be a better
choice "for those that are looking for an upgrade of their existing HDTVs
(and they do not mind to
wait)".

Note that, contrary to some other recommendations that are circulating, I am
not discouraging first
time buyers to buy into 1080p sets as they are today, I am not recommending
for them to wait and
hold their "first" purchase for another year when the 2nd generation of
1080p sets arrive, my
recommendation is and always was targeted to people that are already
enjoying HDTV and want to
upgrade, in other words "the Tips List".

When Hi Def DVD would be introduced we will confirm how both fronts (HD DVD
and Blu ray) will do
their last move, with/out 1080p, over which connections, with/out 1080i over
analog component to
respect 9 million of early adopters. Those conditions would certainly
affect the simple decision to
wait or not for 2nd generation 1080p sets.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



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