A word about Calibration

Started by ar2261 Sep 16, 2005 12 posts
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#1
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When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first thought
was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television when it
already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for someone
to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires from
various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it will
only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served to
re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then hired a
"Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was done I
did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of the
box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked better, but I
felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a little
washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper color
registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look, and you
need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last week
when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy with.
When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got indignant. It
was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his cards, but
at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course and
assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his already
vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by "Sencor" on
their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through ISF
anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put me in
contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes from my
home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the only thing
the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale. He never
touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that menu and
what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom line, it
took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and correct
the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime or night
time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times. Rich
and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret is that
I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I didn't have
the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so much
that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by Hitachi
set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks. Finally if
you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look dark,
and they will take into account your input as you are the one who ultimately
has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who has an
HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise you are
really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad. My two
cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and this is
not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable as he
only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the best
investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank you
Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for providing
such a useful forum.

Anthony Rizzuto
Orlando, FL


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Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD TV's(as in
the Aquos line) ?


On 9/16/05 12:41 PM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first thought
> was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television when it
> already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for someone
> to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires from
> various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it will
> only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served to
> re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then hired a
> "Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was done I
> did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of the
> box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked better, but I
> felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a little
> washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper color
> registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look, and you
> need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last week
> when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy with.
> When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got indignant. It
> was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
> calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his cards, but
> at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course and
> assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his already
> vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by "Sencor" on
> their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through ISF
> anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put me in
> contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes from my
> home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
> gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the only thing
> the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale. He never
> touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that menu and
> what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom line, it
> took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and correct
> the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime or night
> time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times. Rich
> and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
> everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret is that
> I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I didn't have
> the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so much
> that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by Hitachi
> set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks. Finally if
> you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look dark,
> and they will take into account your input as you are the one who ultimately
> has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who has an
> HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise you are
> really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad. My two
> cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and this is
> not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable as he
> only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the best
> investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank you
> Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for providing
> such a useful forum.
>
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Orlando, FL
>
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Definitely concur with Anthony's support for ISF calibration. When we got
our 55" Mits RPTV four years ago the HD was good but SD lousy. We had the
set calibrated (by someone I've subsequently seen Richard recommend). Price
was close to double what Anthony paid because a group of us locally paid the
techs travel/lodging to come from the D.C. area. Results were great. Even
my wife was amazed/happy and she seldom supports any of my audio/video
expenditures. HD was improved and the SD improved greatly (although with
the Mits TV and Mits STB it later took the addition of a Lumagen to get
really good SD). Bottom line: I've never gotten more for my video money
than the ISF effort. If I had to choose, I would spend less on a TV to have
money left for the ISF.

Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:41 PM
Subject: A word about Calibration


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>
>
> When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first
> thought
> was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television when
> it
> already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for someone
> to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires from
> various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it will
> only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served to
> re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then hired a
> "Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was done
> I
> did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of the
> box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked better, but
> I
> felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a little
> washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper color
> registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look, and
> you
> need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last week
> when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy with.
> When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got indignant. It
> was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
> calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his cards,
> but
> at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course and
> assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his already
> vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by "Sencor" on
> their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through ISF
> anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put me in
> contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes from
> my
> home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
> gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the only
> thing
> the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale. He
> never
> touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that menu
> and
> what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom line, it
> took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and
> correct
> the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime or
> night
> time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times.
> Rich
> and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
> everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret is
> that
> I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I didn't
> have
> the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so much
> that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by
> Hitachi
> set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks. Finally
> if
> you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look dark,
> and they will take into account your input as you are the one who
> ultimately
> has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who has an
> HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise you
> are
> really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad. My
> two
> cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and this is
> not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable as
> he
> only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the best
> investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank you
> Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for providing
> such a useful forum.
>
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Orlando, FL
>
>
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#4
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That is what I am told, but I think Richard Fisher should really answer this
one.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
James Healy
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:59 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration


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Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD TV's(as in
the Aquos line) ?


On 9/16/05 12:41 PM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
>
> When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first
thought
> was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television when
it
> already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for someone
> to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires from
> various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it will
> only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served to
> re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then hired a
> "Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was done
I
> did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of the
> box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked better, but
I
> felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a little
> washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper color
> registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look, and
you
> need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last week
> when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy with.
> When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got indignant. It
> was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
> calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his cards,
but
> at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course and
> assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his already
> vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by "Sencor" on
> their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through ISF
> anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put me in
> contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes from
my
> home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
> gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the only
thing
> the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale. He
never
> touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that menu
and
> what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom line, it
> took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and
correct
> the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime or
night
> time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times.
Rich
> and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
> everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret is
that
> I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I didn't
have
> the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so much
> that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by
Hitachi
> set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks. Finally
if
> you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look dark,
> and they will take into account your input as you are the one who
ultimately
> has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who has an
> HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise you
are
> really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad. My
two
> cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and this is
> not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable as
he
> only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the best
> investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank you
> Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for providing
> such a useful forum.
>
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Orlando, FL
>
>
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Depends on the TV. There are no pat answers. Even samples off the same assembly line can vary. Some, like the LGs, are way off
from the factory as a rule. The service manual instructs their technicians to set the gray scale to 9200 Kelvins, which is WAY too
blue. That color temperature is OK to use on computer monitors that must compete with high ambient office lighting, but LOUSY for
video. Others can be very close to correct. Some TV manufacturers, like Optoma, offer models that have been pre-calibrated.

A good way to tell the kind of difference calibration will make on a given TV is to locate a product review in one of the
respectable home theater magazines. I favor Widescreen Review and Perfect Vision but good reviews can appear in the others at
times. A thorough review will discuss the specific differences between image quality from the factory vs. post calibration.

Day an night mode can be very worthwhile, depending on the customer. Anthony's calibrator didn't do day/night, even though it's
possible by using various picture memories. Personally, I don't perform critical viewing in high ambient light environments. When
I want the best picture at home, I turn the lights off and use back lighting (huge surprise). It's impossible to totally adjust
away interference from high ambient light. You can only partially compensate. If Anthony's calibrator had take the extra time to
set up day and night modes, he would have taken longer and likely charged more for his extra time.

If you want the most accurate image from your TV, get it calibrated. Some people prefer inaccurate images and won't like a correct
picture. They have grown up with crap and like the taste. Video is governed by standards in this country. That preserves image
fidelity all along the production and delivery chain. The ISF exists to educate folks about the importance of imaging science,
display standards and human perceptual factors. Most people have never seen a reference video image and cannot make an informed
decision about what their TV picture is supposed to look like. That's just the way it is. ISF calibration helps people get the
most performance from their equipment and programs. Unfortunately there are bad technicians in every field. Richard knows a lot of
the good ones.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"





-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:25 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

That is what I am told, but I think Richard Fisher should really answer this
one.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
James Healy
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:59 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD TV's(as in
the Aquos line) ?


On 9/16/05 12:41 PM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first
thought
> was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television when
it
> already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for someone
> to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires from
> various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it will
> only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served to
> re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then hired a
> "Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was done
I
> did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of the
> box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked better, but
I
> felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a little
> washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper color
> registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look, and
you
> need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last week
> when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy with.
> When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got indignant. It
> was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
> calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his cards,
but
> at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course and
> assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his already
> vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by "Sencor" on
> their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through ISF
> anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put me in
> contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes from
my
> home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
> gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the only
thing
> the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale. He
never
> touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that menu
and
> what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom line, it
> took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and
correct
> the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime or
night
> time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times.
Rich
> and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
> everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret is
that
> I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I didn't
have
> the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so much
> that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by
Hitachi
> set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks. Finally
if
> you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look dark,
> and they will take into account your input as you are the one who
ultimately
> has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who has an
> HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise you
are
> really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad. My
two
> cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and this is
> not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable as
he
> only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the best
> investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank you
> Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for providing
> such a useful forum.
>
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Orlando, FL
>
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#6
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Allen,

He did set it up using back light. I should clarify, the setting he gave me
on the Mits was the "night" setting which is quite bright enough in my case
even in ambient light. We both felt it was unnecessary to deal with a
"daytime setting" on this display. The output of the Mitsubishi is set at
just under nine foot lamberts, and the Hitachi is set at about 30, which is
four under the available output and again I should clarify, he did give me a
day setting on the Hitachi (34 foot lamberts), but I doubt I will be using
it unless Someone steals my blinds and I have full sunlight hitting the
room! ;-)

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:10 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Depends on the TV. There are no pat answers. Even samples off the same
assembly line can vary. Some, like the LGs, are way off
from the factory as a rule. The service manual instructs their technicians
to set the gray scale to 9200 Kelvins, which is WAY too
blue. That color temperature is OK to use on computer monitors that must
compete with high ambient office lighting, but LOUSY for
video. Others can be very close to correct. Some TV manufacturers, like
Optoma, offer models that have been pre-calibrated.

A good way to tell the kind of difference calibration will make on a given
TV is to locate a product review in one of the
respectable home theater magazines. I favor Widescreen Review and Perfect
Vision but good reviews can appear in the others at
times. A thorough review will discuss the specific differences between
image quality from the factory vs. post calibration.

Day an night mode can be very worthwhile, depending on the customer.
Anthony's calibrator didn't do day/night, even though it's
possible by using various picture memories. Personally, I don't perform
critical viewing in high ambient light environments. When
I want the best picture at home, I turn the lights off and use back lighting
(huge surprise). It's impossible to totally adjust
away interference from high ambient light. You can only partially
compensate. If Anthony's calibrator had take the extra time to
set up day and night modes, he would have taken longer and likely charged
more for his extra time.

If you want the most accurate image from your TV, get it calibrated. Some
people prefer inaccurate images and won't like a correct
picture. They have grown up with crap and like the taste. Video is
governed by standards in this country. That preserves image
fidelity all along the production and delivery chain. The ISF exists to
educate folks about the importance of imaging science,
display standards and human perceptual factors. Most people have never seen
a reference video image and cannot make an informed
decision about what their TV picture is supposed to look like. That's just
the way it is. ISF calibration helps people get the
most performance from their equipment and programs. Unfortunately there are
bad technicians in every field. Richard knows a lot of
the good ones.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"





-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:25 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

That is what I am told, but I think Richard Fisher should really answer this
one.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
James Healy
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:59 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD TV's(as in
the Aquos line) ?


On 9/16/05 12:41 PM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first
thought
> was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television when
it
> already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for someone
> to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires from
> various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it will
> only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served to
> re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then hired a
> "Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was done
I
> did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of the
> box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked better, but
I
> felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a little
> washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper color
> registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look, and
you
> need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last week
> when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy with.
> When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got indignant. It
> was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
> calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his cards,
but
> at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course and
> assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his already
> vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by "Sencor" on
> their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through ISF
> anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put me in
> contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes from
my
> home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
> gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the only
thing
> the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale. He
never
> touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that menu
and
> what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom line, it
> took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and
correct
> the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime or
night
> time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times.
Rich
> and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
> everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret is
that
> I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I didn't
have
> the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so much
> that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by
Hitachi
> set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks. Finally
if
> you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look dark,
> and they will take into account your input as you are the one who
ultimately
> has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who has an
> HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise you
are
> really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad. My
two
> cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and this is
> not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable as
he
> only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the best
> investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank you
> Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for providing
> such a useful forum.
>
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Orlando, FL
>
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Can anyone recommend a calibrator in the Kansas City area?



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Richard,

Can you give me a reference on ISF Calibrator CHAD B located in Richmond
VA?

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

> Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD
TV's(as in
> the Aquos line) ?

Yes. I have yet to do a display or system that was not improved in some
way. If you are into performance just do it!
http://isfforum.com/index.php

Alan gave a great answer. Adding to that not only is the display
calibrated but a system check is performed. This week we found an HD
receiver with the WRONG black levels... ARGH Or we may find you did not
setup your DVD correctly or the player is not set correctly by the
manufacturer. We may suggest a better DVD player or DVI enabled player
like the Oppo. http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5548

We may point out ways to improve SD content performance such as Richard
using a Lumagen scaler or like how I use a DVD recorder for our casual
viewing Samsung DLP.
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5550

As for day and night modes and correct that is a misnomer for the most
part. There is only one setting that reproduces images correctly with
the least amount of artifacts and changing that takes the display out of

calibration.

About the only display that could do this correctly is a CRT with a lot
of light output for a day and night mode like direct view or a small
RPTV like a 40-46". Digital will not do it because of the nature of
digital. That said Runco has a Vidikron digital FP specifically designed

for this application without degrading the image but the details have
slipped me for the moment... Check WSR...

I do day and night modes when practical but always tell the client which

mode is accurate, typically night, and that day is setup to compete with

daylight for a better response, certainly not for accuracy.

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

James Healy wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD
TV's(as in
> the Aquos line) ?
>
>
> On 9/16/05 12:41 PM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>>When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first
thought
>>was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television
when it
>>already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for
someone
>>to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires
from
>>various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it
will
>>only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served to
>>re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then hired
a
>>"Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was
done I
>>did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of
the
>>box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked better,
but I
>>felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a
little
>>washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper
color
>>registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look,
and you
>>need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last
week
>>when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy
with.
>>When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got indignant.
It
>>was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
>>calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his
cards, but
>>at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course and
>>assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his
already
>>vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by
"Sencor" on
>>their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through
ISF
>>anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put me
in
>>contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes
from my
>>home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
>>gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the only
thing
>>the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale. He
never
>>touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that
menu and
>>what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom line,
it
>>took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and
correct
>>the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime or
night
>>time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times.
Rich
>>and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
>>everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret
is that
>>I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I
didn't have
>>the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so
much
>>that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by
Hitachi
>>set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks.
Finally if
>>you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look
dark,
>>and they will take into account your input as you are the one who
ultimately
>>has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who
has an
>>HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise
you are
>>really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad.
My two
>>cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and
this is
>>not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable
as he
>>only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the
best
>>investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank you
>>Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for
providing
>>such a useful forum.
>>
>>Anthony Rizzuto
>>Orlando, FL
>>
>>
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Do the LCD/DLP/LCOS displays require another gray scale calibration after
changing lamps? Hopefully not!

Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> > Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD
> TV's(as in
> > the Aquos line) ?
>
> Yes. I have yet to do a display or system that was not improved in some
> way. If you are into performance just do it! http://isfforum.com/index.php
>
> Alan gave a great answer. Adding to that not only is the display
> calibrated but a system check is performed. This week we found an HD
> receiver with the WRONG black levels... ARGH Or we may find you did not
> setup your DVD correctly or the player is not set correctly by the
> manufacturer. We may suggest a better DVD player or DVI enabled player
> like the Oppo. http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5548
>
> We may point out ways to improve SD content performance such as Richard
> using a Lumagen scaler or like how I use a DVD recorder for our casual
> viewing Samsung DLP.
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5550
>
> As for day and night modes and correct that is a misnomer for the most
> part. There is only one setting that reproduces images correctly with the
> least amount of artifacts and changing that takes the display out of
> calibration.
>
> About the only display that could do this correctly is a CRT with a lot of
> light output for a day and night mode like direct view or a small RPTV
> like a 40-46". Digital will not do it because of the nature of digital.
> That said Runco has a Vidikron digital FP specifically designed for this
> application without degrading the image but the details have slipped me
> for the moment... Check WSR...
>
> I do day and night modes when practical but always tell the client which
> mode is accurate, typically night, and that day is setup to compete with
> daylight for a better response, certainly not for accuracy.
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> James Healy wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD TV's(as
>> in
>> the Aquos line) ?
>>
>>
>> On 9/16/05 12:41 PM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>
>>>When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first
>>>thought
>>>was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television when
>>>it
>>>already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for
>>>someone
>>>to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires from
>>>various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it will
>>>only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served to
>>>re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then hired a
>>>"Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was
>>>done I
>>>did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of the
>>>box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked better,
>>>but I
>>>felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a little
>>>washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper color
>>>registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look, and
>>>you
>>>need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last week
>>>when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy
>>>with.
>>>When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got indignant.
>>>It
>>>was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
>>>calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his cards,
>>>but
>>>at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course and
>>>assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his already
>>>vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by "Sencor"
>>>on
>>>their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through ISF
>>>anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put me in
>>>contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes from
>>>my
>>>home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
>>>gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the only
>>>thing
>>>the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale. He
>>>never
>>>touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that menu
>>>and
>>>what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom line, it
>>>took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and
>>>correct
>>>the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime or
>>>night
>>>time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times.
>>>Rich
>>>and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
>>>everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret is
>>>that
>>>I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I didn't
>>>have
>>>the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so
>>>much
>>>that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by
>>>Hitachi
>>>set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks. Finally
>>>if
>>>you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look
>>>dark,
>>>and they will take into account your input as you are the one who
>>>ultimately
>>>has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who has
>>>an
>>>HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise you
>>>are
>>>really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad. My
>>>two
>>>cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and this
>>>is
>>>not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable as
>>>he
>>>only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the best
>>>investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank you
>>>Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for providing
>>>such a useful forum.
>>>
>>>Anthony Rizzuto
>>>Orlando, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>>>
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#10
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Fred,

I'm based in St. Louis, but am planning to be in KC later this month or
early October.

Send me an eMail if you'd be interested in having me calibrate your set
during my visit.

Regards,


Doug
Clearly Resolved Image & Sound

Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993

eMail: [email protected]
Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com

Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
http://www.imagingscience.com

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Fred Shuler
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:57
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Can anyone recommend a calibrator in the Kansas City area?



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Richard,
I found him on the ISF FORUM website. You select your state from a drop
down menu and the listing come up for that state.

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 4:12 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Never heard of the guy. The ISF Forum does not have a listing either for

VA but check the neighboring states just in case.

Sorry...

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Robert Bullock wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Richard,
>
> Can you give me a reference on ISF Calibrator CHAD B located in
Richmond
> VA?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Richard
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: A word about Calibration
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> > Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD
> TV's(as in
> > the Aquos line) ?
>
> Yes. I have yet to do a display or system that was not improved in
some
> way. If you are into performance just do it!
> http://isfforum.com/index.php
>
> Alan gave a great answer. Adding to that not only is the display
> calibrated but a system check is performed. This week we found an HD
> receiver with the WRONG black levels... ARGH Or we may find you did
not
> setup your DVD correctly or the player is not set correctly by the
> manufacturer. We may suggest a better DVD player or DVI enabled player

> like the Oppo. http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5548
>
> We may point out ways to improve SD content performance such as
Richard
> using a Lumagen scaler or like how I use a DVD recorder for our casual

> viewing Samsung DLP.
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5550
>
> As for day and night modes and correct that is a misnomer for the most

> part. There is only one setting that reproduces images correctly with
> the least amount of artifacts and changing that takes the display out
of
>
> calibration.
>
> About the only display that could do this correctly is a CRT with a
lot
> of light output for a day and night mode like direct view or a small
> RPTV like a 40-46". Digital will not do it because of the nature of
> digital. That said Runco has a Vidikron digital FP specifically
designed
>
> for this application without degrading the image but the details have
> slipped me for the moment... Check WSR...
>
> I do day and night modes when practical but always tell the client
which
>
> mode is accurate, typically night, and that day is setup to compete
with
>
> daylight for a better response, certainly not for accuracy.
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> James Healy wrote:
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD
>
> TV's(as in
>
>>the Aquos line) ?
>>
>>
>>On 9/16/05 12:41 PM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>
>>>When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first
>
> thought
>
>>>was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television
>
> when it
>
>>>already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for
>
> someone
>
>>>to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires
>
> from
>
>>>various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it
>
> will
>
>>>only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served
to
>>>re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then
hired
>
> a
>
>>>"Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was
>
> done I
>
>>>did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of
>
> the
>
>>>box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked
better,
>
> but I
>
>>>felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a
>
> little
>
>>>washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper
>
> color
>
>>>registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look,
>
> and you
>
>>>need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last
>
> week
>
>>>when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy
>
> with.
>
>>>When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got
indignant.
>
> It
>
>>>was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
>>>calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his
>
> cards, but
>
>>>at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course
and
>>>assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his
>
> already
>
>>>vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by
>
> "Sencor" on
>
>>>their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through
>
> ISF
>
>>>anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put
me
>
> in
>
>>>contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes
>
> from my
>
>>>home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
>>>gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the
only
>
> thing
>
>>>the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale.
He
>
> never
>
>>>touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that
>
> menu and
>
>>>what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom
line,
>
> it
>
>>>took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and
>
> correct
>
>>>the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime
or
>
> night
>
>>>time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times.
>
> Rich
>
>>>and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
>>>everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret
>
> is that
>
>>>I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I
>
> didn't have
>
>>>the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so
>
> much
>
>>>that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by
>
> Hitachi
>
>>>set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks.
>
> Finally if
>
>>>you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look
>
> dark,
>
>>>and they will take into account your input as you are the one who
>
> ultimately
>
>>>has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who
>
> has an
>
>>>HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise
>
> you are
>
>>>really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad.
>
> My two
>
>>>cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and
>
> this is
>
>>>not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable
>
> as he
>
>>>only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the
>
> best
>
>>>investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank
you
>>>Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for
>
> providing
>
>>>such a useful forum.
>>>
>>>Anthony Rizzuto
>>>Orlando, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>>>
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>
> same
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#12
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Robert,

Richmond VA is within 2 hrs of MD.

If you feel tempted to call one that is officially approved by ISF from the area of MD please drop
me a private email, believe me, you would do a great favor to your HDTV if he does not touch it.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Robert Bullock
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 5:36 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration


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Richard,
I found him on the ISF FORUM website. You select your state from a drop
down menu and the listing come up for that state.

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 4:12 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: A word about Calibration

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Never heard of the guy. The ISF Forum does not have a listing either for

VA but check the neighboring states just in case.

Sorry...

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Robert Bullock wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Richard,
>
> Can you give me a reference on ISF Calibrator CHAD B located in
Richmond
> VA?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Richard
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: A word about Calibration
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> > Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD
> TV's(as in
> > the Aquos line) ?
>
> Yes. I have yet to do a display or system that was not improved in
some
> way. If you are into performance just do it!
> http://isfforum.com/index.php
>
> Alan gave a great answer. Adding to that not only is the display
> calibrated but a system check is performed. This week we found an HD
> receiver with the WRONG black levels... ARGH Or we may find you did
not
> setup your DVD correctly or the player is not set correctly by the
> manufacturer. We may suggest a better DVD player or DVI enabled player

> like the Oppo. http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5548
>
> We may point out ways to improve SD content performance such as
Richard
> using a Lumagen scaler or like how I use a DVD recorder for our casual

> viewing Samsung DLP.
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5550
>
> As for day and night modes and correct that is a misnomer for the most

> part. There is only one setting that reproduces images correctly with
> the least amount of artifacts and changing that takes the display out
of
>
> calibration.
>
> About the only display that could do this correctly is a CRT with a
lot
> of light output for a day and night mode like direct view or a small
> RPTV like a 40-46". Digital will not do it because of the nature of
> digital. That said Runco has a Vidikron digital FP specifically
designed
>
> for this application without degrading the image but the details have
> slipped me for the moment... Check WSR...
>
> I do day and night modes when practical but always tell the client
which
>
> mode is accurate, typically night, and that day is setup to compete
with
>
> daylight for a better response, certainly not for accuracy.
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> James Healy wrote:
>
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>>
>>Will calibration have as much of an impact on for Plasma and LCD
>
> TV's(as in
>
>>the Aquos line) ?
>>
>>
>>On 9/16/05 12:41 PM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>When I first joined this forum and heard about calibration, my first
>
> thought
>
>>>was, " why would you need to pay someone to adjust a new television
>
> when it
>
>>>already has a great picture. This must be some kind of a scam for
>
> someone
>
>>>to make a few bucks off of the unsuspecting." After making inquires
>
> from
>
>>>various sources, I heard comments such as " it's unnecessary and it
>
> will
>
>>>only make the display look darker". Comments like that only served
to
>>>re-enforce my negative feelings about the whole process. I then
hired
>
> a
>
>>>"Calibrator" last February to calibrate my Mits Diamond. When he was
>
> done I
>
>>>did notice a major difference compared to what it looked like out of
>
> the
>
>>>box, but when I told this person that I thought the set looked
better,
>
> but I
>
>>>felt the image on the "night setting" was a bit dark and looked a
>
> little
>
>>>washed, he replied "that's because your not used to seeing proper
>
> color
>
>>>registration and gray scale, this is the way it's supposed to look,
>
> and you
>
>>>need to get used to it." So, I learned to live with it, until last
>
> week
>
>>>when I noticed some other things about the image that I wasn't happy
>
> with.
>
>>>When I called this person and expressed my concerns, he got
indignant.
>
> It
>
>>>was at this point that I put out an a.p.b. on this board for an ISF
>>>calibrator. The person I referenced above had ISF listed on his
>
> cards, but
>
>>>at the time he "calibrated" my set he had not yet taken the course
and
>>>assured me that the ISF training really wouldn't add much to his
>
> already
>
>>>vast knowledge. In fact he stated that he had been trained by
>
> "Sencor" on
>
>>>their equipment and that was better than what he would learn through
>
> ISF
>
>>>anyway. Richard Fisher responded to my request immediately and put
me
>
> in
>
>>>contact with an ISF calibrator who as it happens, lives five minutes
>
> from my
>
>>>home. I contacted him and set up an appointment immediately. This
>>>gentlemen came to my home this past Monday. As it turns out, the
only
>
> thing
>
>>>the last person had done to my Mits was to correct the gray scale.
He
>
> never
>
>>>touched color because he apparently didn't know how to get to that
>
> menu and
>
>>>what he did adjust only ended up making the image worse. Bottom
line,
>
> it
>
>>>took the ISF calibrator five hours to properly calibrate the set and
>
> correct
>
>>>the problems that the other person had created. There is no daytime
or
>
> night
>
>>>time setting now just one setting that looks incredible at all times.
>
> Rich
>
>>>and accurate colors that are not over saturated. I'm finally seeing
>>>everything I've been missing since I purchased it and my only regret
>
> is that
>
>>>I didn't go with an ISF calibrator in the first place and that I
>
> didn't have
>
>>>the process done right after I'd purchased it. I liked what I saw so
>
> much
>
>>>that as I mentioned in an earlier post today I had the 51" Aspect by
>
> Hitachi
>
>>>set calibrated last night and it is amazing how good it looks.
>
> Finally if
>
>>>you have a good ISF calibrator, the set will not be adjusted to look
>
> dark,
>
>>>and they will take into account your input as you are the one who
>
> ultimately
>
>>>has to live with it. I wish that dealers would inform everyone who
>
> has an
>
>>>HDTV display about the benefits of this service, because otherwise
>
> you are
>
>>>really only getting about half of what you paid for and that is sad.
>
> My two
>
>>>cents, but I know on this at least I'm right. One last thing, and
>
> this is
>
>>>not always the case, but the ISF person I'm using is quite reasonable
>
> as he
>
>>>only charges 295.00 for a full blown calibration. It's probably the
>
> best
>
>>>investment I've made after purchasing my home theater gear. Thank
you
>>>Richard Fisher and thanks to Dale, Shane and the tips list for
>
> providing
>
>>>such a useful forum.
>>>
>>>Anthony Rizzuto
>>>Orlando, FL
>>>
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