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Thanks Hugh. I would certainly hope this would not be the case. Given the
fact that there is an excellent chance that they are going to cut out the
early adopters (the old Component/DVI/HDMI bit) who in the world would they
have been marketing to using the draconian copy protection methods described
below. Blu-Ray would have been still born as would HD DVD although with the
latter that rapidly seems to be the case regardless. I will say this
however. As much as we have decried the two format situation ( I include
myself in that) ultimately this may have real benefits to the consumer as
competition between the two may cause improvements prior to initial release
that would normally have waited until after the fact. Just my two cents.
Anthony R.
Orlando, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:13 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Another point for Blu-ray
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A note from the real world.........neither of these will ever happen:
"that the player (not the media) will be disabled with a destruct code"
"in order to use a Blu-Ray player it will have to have a constant internet
connection"
When stuff like this comes from the internet we should find a means of
setting the record straight and not perpetuate the rumor. Divix (?) was
such a poorly conceived idea I could not believe it was ever brought out by
CC. If they don't want any sales then a "self-destruct" or "connect to
internet" machine would be great. Mfg. and Hollywood are both seeing sales
of DVDs fall off and now a new format is needed and not just needed for
people like us but for everyone.
Hugh
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From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <
[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <
[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Another point for Blu-ray
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>
> Yes it was called Divix. So you are saying that the current rumor is that
> in order to use a Blu-Ray player it will have to have a constant internet
> connection? Are these people out of their minds? Joe six-pack is not
> going
> to have his house rewired in order to accommodate a dvd player. This in
> my
> mind is a major disadvantage for the B-R camp. If I were Toshiba I would
> do
> everything I could to get this out on the street. Talk about Nazi
> tactics.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Howard A. Blackstead
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:12 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Another point for Blu-ray
>
>
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>
> Guys: Another aspect of the announced DRM is the requirement to have
> such B-R players attached to the internet (all of the time)! It is also
> claimed that if one attempts to play a pirated B-R DVD, that the player
> (not the media) will be disabled with a destruct code! Whether or not
> the disabled player can be restored to operational status with a trip to
> a repair shop is not decided. This was discussed at some length on
> slashdot (/.) yesterday.
>
>
http://slashdot.org/index.pl?issue=20050810
>
> No one greeted this feature with positive enthusiasm. It looks like a
> hackers dream, free targets for destruction all over the place!
>
> This looks like a Frankenstein's Monster, much worse than the ill-fated
> Circuit-City DVD system (was it called DivX?).
>
> Howard in South Bend, where football is being practiced!
>
> On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 11:46 -0400, Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
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>>
>> Yes it does. If all of the new software manufactured to Blu-Ray's
> standards
>> will have both the "watermark" and dynamic encryption, and further if the
>> studios are confident enough in these processes to jump from one camp to
> the
>> other, then why not pass the 1080 signal (be it i or P) through component
> so
>> "Early Adopters" can take advantage of the new format and help it along
>> financially until it reaches the mass population? I know how you feel
> about
>> this already Jason.
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>
[email protected]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:34 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Another point for Blu-ray
>>
>>
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>>
>> Watermark and dynamic encryption are at the software layer - in other
>> words, independent of the physical connection. The data is store in
>> certain ways to ensure it isn't easily copied from disc to disc using a
>> computer, etc.
>>
>> HDCP is at a different layer and implemented between devices that
>> support it. They are 'software agnostic' and will encrypt whatever is
>> put through them.
>>
>> These layers are not interdependent but can be used together. In other
>> words, you could have a blu-ray system with dynamic encryption and no
>> HDCP connection, a system without encryption (like some DVDs) with HDCP,
>> or both.
>>
>> Does that help?
>>
>> Jason Burroughs
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> Of Anthony Rizzuto
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:30 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Another point for Blu-ray
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> So how does the "watermark" and "dynamic encryption" work in conjunction
>> with HDCP or are they separate entities doing different things?
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>
[email protected]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:23 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Another point for Blu-ray
>>
>>
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>>
>>
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050810-5194.html
>>
>> Looks more and more like the tide is turning towards Blu-ray. My gut
>> feeling is that Christmas 2005 will be over promised and under
>> delivered...a few titles and even fewer players; I hope my fellow
>> tipsters are saving their pennies for the $1000 player we'll all be
>> talking about in 3-4 months!
>>
>> Rodolfo, any news on your end of *real* blu-ray/hddvd players on the
>> horizon? I was hoping to get more info at the HD Conference in LA later
>> this month, but will be unable to attend. I'll be looking forward to
>> seeing you all on HD.net
>>
>> Jason Burroughs
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