Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man

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#1
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Here is Bob's latest email and he obviously believes that those of us with
only component inputs will not be able to watch high definition television.

Hugh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rapoport" <[email protected]>
To: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Your Advertisement for the HDS-41R


> Hi Hugh,
>
> OK. At least we agree on part of what I am saying. The problem, at
> least from our perspective, is that when analog broadcasting ends, the HD
> output from the analog component jacks you are using now will end too.
> You will have to buy a converter box to even watch broadcast television on
> your HDTV and it will only output standard def.
>
> As hard as it is to believe, what I am saying is true. Your HDTV, if
> Congress has its way, will be obsolete soon. PureLink makes a DVI to
> VGA converter (see our homepage) that converts digital HD content to
> analog VGA, as long as its not copy protected or encrypted. Up until a
> few weeks ago, it worked with HDCP as well. However, we were threatened
> with legal action by HDCP lawyers so we took the HDCP IC out. We began
> checking with the source manufacturers, like Samsung, and found out that
> they will provide you with a secret code from their tech support dept to
> turn off the HDCP on their latest upconverting DVD players. Denon too.
> We think the reason they included these escape hatches is that they knew
> when they started building these devices that the courts might intervene
> and stop HDCP, like they have every copy protection scheme. Here's
> another link:
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120748,00.asp
>
> This story would seem to support your point of view. If it werent for
> the fact that the Senate is considering new legislation to give the FCC
> the right to do what the content providers want, I might agree with you.
> However, I suspect the new law will pass and that it will result in the
> analog hole closing on schedule.
> They will use "national security" to push it. The current analog
> broadcast spectrum is where they want to put the first responder
> communication system.
>
> My ad for the the HDMI switcher is straight forward and not confusing.
> However, I agree with you that an HDMI switcher with component inputs,
> upscaling, and separate audio breakout would be nice. We are working on
> one now. Current HDMI does not support multi-channel audio so we
> recommend that our customers use a separate audio output to feed their
> receiver or preamp.
>
> Bob



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#2
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I just spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Bob. After going around and
around, I was able to convince him that analog broadcasts of SD material
have nothing to do with analog output from a digital set top box of
unprotected content. He was using documents written in the spirit of "if
content providers have their way..." as the basis for his argument, such as
court briefs and congressional hearings where consumer advocates speak with
passion about what will happen if certain content providers have their way.

We spent quite a bit of time talking about OTA HD broadcasting, cable and
satellite, then comparing that to how HD DVD and Blu-ray may launch with
very restrictive HD outputs. I think the truth is, he's not the most
technical guy and he wrote what an average person would pick up after
reading a number of alarming articles. He ran this buy the owner of his
company, an engineer, as well as the technical people at publicknowledge.com
and they seemed to concur. From the sound of it, he really tried to get it
right.

I explained to Bob that we are all very concerned about what may happen at
some point in the future, but it is critical to separate the analog OTA
broadcast cutoff from all the other mediums and their various (yet
intertwined) copy protection issues.

He agreed to 'dial back' the press release and remove reference to 'analog
HD broadcasting' since such a thing does not exist. He'll also rephrase
things to include what is part of the cutoff and which parts are the worst
fears of our community. He listened well, and was respectful, and I think
the only way to get through to him was a phone call. I did not mention the
tips list or magazine, and represented myself as a home theater who read his
press release on the internet.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:39 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Here is Bob's latest email and he obviously believes that those of us with
only component inputs will not be able to watch high definition television.

Hugh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rapoport" <[email protected]>
To: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Your Advertisement for the HDS-41R


> Hi Hugh,
>
> OK. At least we agree on part of what I am saying. The problem, at
> least from our perspective, is that when analog broadcasting ends, the HD
> output from the analog component jacks you are using now will end too.
> You will have to buy a converter box to even watch broadcast television on

> your HDTV and it will only output standard def.
>
> As hard as it is to believe, what I am saying is true. Your HDTV, if
> Congress has its way, will be obsolete soon. PureLink makes a DVI to
> VGA converter (see our homepage) that converts digital HD content to
> analog VGA, as long as its not copy protected or encrypted. Up until a

> few weeks ago, it worked with HDCP as well. However, we were threatened

> with legal action by HDCP lawyers so we took the HDCP IC out. We began
> checking with the source manufacturers, like Samsung, and found out that
> they will provide you with a secret code from their tech support dept to
> turn off the HDCP on their latest upconverting DVD players. Denon too.

> We think the reason they included these escape hatches is that they knew
> when they started building these devices that the courts might intervene
> and stop HDCP, like they have every copy protection scheme. Here's
> another link:
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120748,00.asp
>
> This story would seem to support your point of view. If it werent for
> the fact that the Senate is considering new legislation to give the FCC
> the right to do what the content providers want, I might agree with you.
> However, I suspect the new law will pass and that it will result in the
> analog hole closing on schedule.
> They will use "national security" to push it. The current analog
> broadcast spectrum is where they want to put the first responder
> communication system.
>
> My ad for the the HDMI switcher is straight forward and not confusing.
> However, I agree with you that an HDMI switcher with component inputs,
> upscaling, and separate audio breakout would be nice. We are working on
> one now. Current HDMI does not support multi-channel audio so we
> recommend that our customers use a separate audio output to feed their
> receiver or preamp.
>
> Bob



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It genuinely gratifies me to see the growth in understanding and authority
that has taken place on this very special list. When HDTV Magazine was
formed it was done so with the thought of educating consumers and
professionals alike until those readers were an invincible "army" of
educated principals who could and would act on keeping confusion in check.

You have lived up to those high expectations and I, for one, thank you.

Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:52 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I just spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Bob. After going around and
around, I was able to convince him that analog broadcasts of SD material
have nothing to do with analog output from a digital set top box of
unprotected content. He was using documents written in the spirit of "if
content providers have their way..." as the basis for his argument, such as
court briefs and congressional hearings where consumer advocates speak with
passion about what will happen if certain content providers have their way.

We spent quite a bit of time talking about OTA HD broadcasting, cable and
satellite, then comparing that to how HD DVD and Blu-ray may launch with
very restrictive HD outputs. I think the truth is, he's not the most
technical guy and he wrote what an average person would pick up after
reading a number of alarming articles. He ran this buy the owner of his
company, an engineer, as well as the technical people at publicknowledge.com
and they seemed to concur. From the sound of it, he really tried to get it
right.

I explained to Bob that we are all very concerned about what may happen at
some point in the future, but it is critical to separate the analog OTA
broadcast cutoff from all the other mediums and their various (yet
intertwined) copy protection issues.

He agreed to 'dial back' the press release and remove reference to 'analog
HD broadcasting' since such a thing does not exist. He'll also rephrase
things to include what is part of the cutoff and which parts are the worst
fears of our community. He listened well, and was respectful, and I think
the only way to get through to him was a phone call. I did not mention the
tips list or magazine, and represented myself as a home theater who read his
press release on the internet.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:39 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Here is Bob's latest email and he obviously believes that those of us with
only component inputs will not be able to watch high definition television.

Hugh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rapoport" <[email protected]>
To: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Your Advertisement for the HDS-41R


> Hi Hugh,
>
> OK. At least we agree on part of what I am saying. The problem, at
> least from our perspective, is that when analog broadcasting ends, the HD
> output from the analog component jacks you are using now will end too.
> You will have to buy a converter box to even watch broadcast television on

> your HDTV and it will only output standard def.
>
> As hard as it is to believe, what I am saying is true. Your HDTV, if
> Congress has its way, will be obsolete soon. PureLink makes a DVI to
> VGA converter (see our homepage) that converts digital HD content to
> analog VGA, as long as its not copy protected or encrypted. Up until a

> few weeks ago, it worked with HDCP as well. However, we were threatened

> with legal action by HDCP lawyers so we took the HDCP IC out. We began
> checking with the source manufacturers, like Samsung, and found out that
> they will provide you with a secret code from their tech support dept to
> turn off the HDCP on their latest upconverting DVD players. Denon too.

> We think the reason they included these escape hatches is that they knew
> when they started building these devices that the courts might intervene
> and stop HDCP, like they have every copy protection scheme. Here's
> another link:
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120748,00.asp
>
> This story would seem to support your point of view. If it werent for
> the fact that the Senate is considering new legislation to give the FCC
> the right to do what the content providers want, I might agree with you.
> However, I suspect the new law will pass and that it will result in the
> analog hole closing on schedule.
> They will use "national security" to push it. The current analog
> broadcast spectrum is where they want to put the first responder
> communication system.
>
> My ad for the the HDMI switcher is straight forward and not confusing.
> However, I agree with you that an HDMI switcher with component inputs,
> upscaling, and separate audio breakout would be nice. We are working on
> one now. Current HDMI does not support multi-channel audio so we
> recommend that our customers use a separate audio output to feed their
> receiver or preamp.
>
> Bob



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#4
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Let me add my thanks to Dale's below, especially to Hugh and Jason, for
following up on my original post. Perhaps someday, I'll be able to do the
same, but for now I'm pretty involved in just making a living!

Brad

Brad Krehbiel, PE
Crown Center Redevelopment Corp.
Phone: 816-274-8564
Fax: 816-274-4567



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It genuinely gratifies me to see the growth in understanding and authority
that has taken place on this very special list. When HDTV Magazine was
formed it was done so with the thought of educating consumers and
professionals alike until those readers were an invincible "army" of
educated principals who could and would act on keeping confusion in check.

You have lived up to those high expectations and I, for one, thank you.

Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:52 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I just spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Bob. After going around and
around, I was able to convince him that analog broadcasts of SD material
have nothing to do with analog output from a digital set top box of
unprotected content. He was using documents written in the spirit of "if
content providers have their way..." as the basis for his argument, such as
court briefs and congressional hearings where consumer advocates speak with
passion about what will happen if certain content providers have their way.

We spent quite a bit of time talking about OTA HD broadcasting, cable and
satellite, then comparing that to how HD DVD and Blu-ray may launch with
very restrictive HD outputs. I think the truth is, he's not the most
technical guy and he wrote what an average person would pick up after
reading a number of alarming articles. He ran this buy the owner of his
company, an engineer, as well as the technical people at
publicknowledge.com
and they seemed to concur. From the sound of it, he really tried to get it
right.

I explained to Bob that we are all very concerned about what may happen at
some point in the future, but it is critical to separate the analog OTA
broadcast cutoff from all the other mediums and their various (yet
intertwined) copy protection issues.

He agreed to 'dial back' the press release and remove reference to 'analog
HD broadcasting' since such a thing does not exist. He'll also rephrase
things to include what is part of the cutoff and which parts are the worst
fears of our community. He listened well, and was respectful, and I think
the only way to get through to him was a phone call. I did not mention the
tips list or magazine, and represented myself as a home theater who read
his
press release on the internet.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:39 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Here is Bob's latest email and he obviously believes that those of us with
only component inputs will not be able to watch high definition television.

Hugh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rapoport" <[email protected]>
To: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Your Advertisement for the HDS-41R


> Hi Hugh,
>
> OK. At least we agree on part of what I am saying. The problem, at
> least from our perspective, is that when analog broadcasting ends, the HD

> output from the analog component jacks you are using now will end too.
> You will have to buy a converter box to even watch broadcast television
on

> your HDTV and it will only output standard def.
>
> As hard as it is to believe, what I am saying is true. Your HDTV, if
> Congress has its way, will be obsolete soon. PureLink makes a DVI to
> VGA converter (see our homepage) that converts digital HD content to
> analog VGA, as long as its not copy protected or encrypted. Up until
a

> few weeks ago, it worked with HDCP as well. However, we were
threatened

> with legal action by HDCP lawyers so we took the HDCP IC out. We began

> checking with the source manufacturers, like Samsung, and found out that
> they will provide you with a secret code from their tech support dept to
> turn off the HDCP on their latest upconverting DVD players. Denon
too.

> We think the reason they included these escape hatches is that they knew
> when they started building these devices that the courts might intervene
> and stop HDCP, like they have every copy protection scheme. Here's
> another link:
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120748,00.asp
>
> This story would seem to support your point of view. If it werent for
> the fact that the Senate is considering new legislation to give the FCC
> the right to do what the content providers want, I might agree with you.
> However, I suspect the new law will pass and that it will result in the
> analog hole closing on schedule.
> They will use "national security" to push it. The current analog
> broadcast spectrum is where they want to put the first responder
> communication system.
>
> My ad for the the HDMI switcher is straight forward and not confusing.
> However, I agree with you that an HDMI switcher with component inputs,
> upscaling, and separate audio breakout would be nice. We are working on
> one now. Current HDMI does not support multi-channel audio so we
> recommend that our customers use a separate audio output to feed their
> receiver or preamp.
>
> Bob



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Jason,

Good job, I was going to call when I got back and see I don't have to. I
knew I could never get through to him via email. I'm going to write him and
suggest in a pleasant way he join this group. It's hard enough trying to
explain to the general public without having supposedly knowledgeable
companies adding to the confusion.

Hugh



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Burroughs" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I just spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Bob. After going around
> and
> around, I was able to convince him that analog broadcasts of SD material
> have nothing to do with analog output from a digital set top box of
> unprotected content. He was using documents written in the spirit of "if
> content providers have their way..." as the basis for his argument, such
> as
> court briefs and congressional hearings where consumer advocates speak
> with
> passion about what will happen if certain content providers have their
> way.
>
> We spent quite a bit of time talking about OTA HD broadcasting, cable and
> satellite, then comparing that to how HD DVD and Blu-ray may launch with
> very restrictive HD outputs. I think the truth is, he's not the most
> technical guy and he wrote what an average person would pick up after
> reading a number of alarming articles. He ran this buy the owner of his
> company, an engineer, as well as the technical people at
> publicknowledge.com
> and they seemed to concur. From the sound of it, he really tried to get it
> right.
>
> I explained to Bob that we are all very concerned about what may happen at
> some point in the future, but it is critical to separate the analog OTA
> broadcast cutoff from all the other mediums and their various (yet
> intertwined) copy protection issues.
>
> He agreed to 'dial back' the press release and remove reference to 'analog
> HD broadcasting' since such a thing does not exist. He'll also rephrase
> things to include what is part of the cutoff and which parts are the worst
> fears of our community. He listened well, and was respectful, and I think
> the only way to get through to him was a phone call. I did not mention the
> tips list or magazine, and represented myself as a home theater who read
> his
> press release on the internet.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Hugh Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:39 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Here is Bob's latest email and he obviously believes that those of us with
> only component inputs will not be able to watch high definition
> television.
>
> Hugh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Rapoport" <[email protected]>
> To: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Your Advertisement for the HDS-41R
>
>
>> Hi Hugh,
>>
>> OK. At least we agree on part of what I am saying. The problem, at
>> least from our perspective, is that when analog broadcasting ends, the HD
>> output from the analog component jacks you are using now will end too.
>> You will have to buy a converter box to even watch broadcast television
>> on
>
>> your HDTV and it will only output standard def.
>>
>> As hard as it is to believe, what I am saying is true. Your HDTV, if
>> Congress has its way, will be obsolete soon. PureLink makes a DVI to
>> VGA converter (see our homepage) that converts digital HD content to
>> analog VGA, as long as its not copy protected or encrypted. Up until
>> a
>
>> few weeks ago, it worked with HDCP as well. However, we were
>> threatened
>
>> with legal action by HDCP lawyers so we took the HDCP IC out. We began
>> checking with the source manufacturers, like Samsung, and found out that
>> they will provide you with a secret code from their tech support dept to
>> turn off the HDCP on their latest upconverting DVD players. Denon
>> too.
>
>> We think the reason they included these escape hatches is that they knew
>> when they started building these devices that the courts might intervene
>> and stop HDCP, like they have every copy protection scheme. Here's
>> another link:
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120748,00.asp
>>
>> This story would seem to support your point of view. If it werent for
>> the fact that the Senate is considering new legislation to give the FCC
>> the right to do what the content providers want, I might agree with you.
>> However, I suspect the new law will pass and that it will result in the
>> analog hole closing on schedule.
>> They will use "national security" to push it. The current analog
>> broadcast spectrum is where they want to put the first responder
>> communication system.
>>
>> My ad for the the HDMI switcher is straight forward and not confusing.
>> However, I agree with you that an HDMI switcher with component inputs,
>> upscaling, and separate audio breakout would be nice. We are working on
>> one now. Current HDMI does not support multi-channel audio so we
>> recommend that our customers use a separate audio output to feed their
>> receiver or preamp.
>>
>> Bob
>
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Hi Dale,
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sent you an extra donation when you were in need. I don't get the Magazine
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> [Original Message]
> From: Dale Cripps <[email protected]>
> To: HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> Date: 2/2/2006 10:36:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> It genuinely gratifies me to see the growth in understanding and authority
> that has taken place on this very special list. When HDTV Magazine was
> formed it was done so with the thought of educating consumers and
> professionals alike until those readers were an invincible "army" of
> educated principals who could and would act on keeping confusion in
check.
>
> You have lived up to those high expectations and I, for one, thank you.
>
> Dale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Jason Burroughs
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:52 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I just spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Bob. After going around
and
> around, I was able to convince him that analog broadcasts of SD material
> have nothing to do with analog output from a digital set top box of
> unprotected content. He was using documents written in the spirit of "if
> content providers have their way..." as the basis for his argument, such
as
> court briefs and congressional hearings where consumer advocates speak
with
> passion about what will happen if certain content providers have their
way.
>
> We spent quite a bit of time talking about OTA HD broadcasting, cable and
> satellite, then comparing that to how HD DVD and Blu-ray may launch with
> very restrictive HD outputs. I think the truth is, he's not the most
> technical guy and he wrote what an average person would pick up after
> reading a number of alarming articles. He ran this buy the owner of his
> company, an engineer, as well as the technical people at
publicknowledge.com
> and they seemed to concur. From the sound of it, he really tried to get it
> right.
>
> I explained to Bob that we are all very concerned about what may happen at
> some point in the future, but it is critical to separate the analog OTA
> broadcast cutoff from all the other mediums and their various (yet
> intertwined) copy protection issues.
>
> He agreed to 'dial back' the press release and remove reference to 'analog
> HD broadcasting' since such a thing does not exist. He'll also rephrase
> things to include what is part of the cutoff and which parts are the worst
> fears of our community. He listened well, and was respectful, and I think
> the only way to get through to him was a phone call. I did not mention the
> tips list or magazine, and represented myself as a home theater who read
his
> press release on the internet.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Hugh Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:39 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Here is Bob's latest email and he obviously believes that those of us
with
> only component inputs will not be able to watch high definition
television.
>
> Hugh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Rapoport" <[email protected]>
> To: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Your Advertisement for the HDS-41R
>
>
> > Hi Hugh,
> >
> > OK. At least we agree on part of what I am saying. The problem, at
> > least from our perspective, is that when analog broadcasting ends, the
HD
> > output from the analog component jacks you are using now will end too.
> > You will have to buy a converter box to even watch broadcast television
on
>
> > your HDTV and it will only output standard def.
> >
> > As hard as it is to believe, what I am saying is true. Your HDTV, if
> > Congress has its way, will be obsolete soon. PureLink makes a DVI to
> > VGA converter (see our homepage) that converts digital HD content to
> > analog VGA, as long as its not copy protected or encrypted. Up
until a
>
> > few weeks ago, it worked with HDCP as well. However, we were
threatened
>
> > with legal action by HDCP lawyers so we took the HDCP IC out. We
began
> > checking with the source manufacturers, like Samsung, and found out
that
> > they will provide you with a secret code from their tech support dept
to
> > turn off the HDCP on their latest upconverting DVD players. Denon
too.
>
> > We think the reason they included these escape hatches is that they
knew
> > when they started building these devices that the courts might
intervene
> > and stop HDCP, like they have every copy protection scheme. Here's
> > another link:
> >
> > http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120748,00.asp
> >
> > This story would seem to support your point of view. If it werent for
> > the fact that the Senate is considering new legislation to give the FCC
> > the right to do what the content providers want, I might agree with
you.
> > However, I suspect the new law will pass and that it will result in the
> > analog hole closing on schedule.
> > They will use "national security" to push it. The current analog
> > broadcast spectrum is where they want to put the first responder
> > communication system.
> >
> > My ad for the the HDMI switcher is straight forward and not confusing.
> > However, I agree with you that an HDMI switcher with component inputs,
> > upscaling, and separate audio breakout would be nice. We are working
on
> > one now. Current HDMI does not support multi-channel audio so we
> > recommend that our customers use a separate audio output to feed their
> > receiver or preamp.
> >
> > Bob
>
>
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> [Original Message]
> From: Dale Cripps <[email protected]>
> To: HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> Date: 2/2/2006 10:36:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man
>
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> It genuinely gratifies me to see the growth in understanding and
authority
> that has taken place on this very special list. When HDTV Magazine was
> formed it was done so with the thought of educating consumers and
> professionals alike until those readers were an invincible "army" of
> educated principals who could and would act on keeping confusion in
check.
>
> You have lived up to those high expectations and I, for one, thank you.
>
> Dale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Jason Burroughs
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:52 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I just spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Bob. After going around
and
> around, I was able to convince him that analog broadcasts of SD material
> have nothing to do with analog output from a digital set top box of
> unprotected content. He was using documents written in the spirit of "if
> content providers have their way..." as the basis for his argument, such
as
> court briefs and congressional hearings where consumer advocates speak
with
> passion about what will happen if certain content providers have their
way.
>
> We spent quite a bit of time talking about OTA HD broadcasting, cable and
> satellite, then comparing that to how HD DVD and Blu-ray may launch with
> very restrictive HD outputs. I think the truth is, he's not the most
> technical guy and he wrote what an average person would pick up after
> reading a number of alarming articles. He ran this buy the owner of his
> company, an engineer, as well as the technical people at
publicknowledge.com
> and they seemed to concur. From the sound of it, he really tried to get
it
> right.
>
> I explained to Bob that we are all very concerned about what may happen
at
> some point in the future, but it is critical to separate the analog OTA
> broadcast cutoff from all the other mediums and their various (yet
> intertwined) copy protection issues.
>
> He agreed to 'dial back' the press release and remove reference to
'analog
> HD broadcasting' since such a thing does not exist. He'll also rephrase
> things to include what is part of the cutoff and which parts are the
worst
> fears of our community. He listened well, and was respectful, and I think
> the only way to get through to him was a phone call. I did not mention
the
> tips list or magazine, and represented myself as a home theater who read
his
> press release on the internet.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Hugh Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:39 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Another reply from PureDirect's Ad Man
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Here is Bob's latest email and he obviously believes that those of us
with
> only component inputs will not be able to watch high definition
television.
>
> Hugh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Rapoport" <[email protected]>
> To: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Your Advertisement for the HDS-41R
>
>
> > Hi Hugh,
> >
> > OK. At least we agree on part of what I am saying. The problem, at
> > least from our perspective, is that when analog broadcasting ends, the
HD
> > output from the analog component jacks you are using now will end too.
> > You will have to buy a converter box to even watch broadcast television
on
>
> > your HDTV and it will only output standard def.
> >
> > As hard as it is to believe, what I am saying is true. Your HDTV, if

> > Congress has its way, will be obsolete soon. PureLink makes a DVI to

> > VGA converter (see our homepage) that converts digital HD content to
> > analog VGA, as long as its not copy protected or encrypted. Up
until a
>
> > few weeks ago, it worked with HDCP as well. However, we were
threatened
>
> > with legal action by HDCP lawyers so we took the HDCP IC out. We
began
> > checking with the source manufacturers, like Samsung, and found out
that
> > they will provide you with a secret code from their tech support dept
to
> > turn off the HDCP on their latest upconverting DVD players. Denon
too.
>
> > We think the reason they included these escape hatches is that they
knew
> > when they started building these devices that the courts might
intervene
> > and stop HDCP, like they have every copy protection scheme. Here's
> > another link:
> >
> > http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120748,00.asp
> >
> > This story would seem to support your point of view. If it werent for

> > the fact that the Senate is considering new legislation to give the FCC

> > the right to do what the content providers want, I might agree with
you.
> > However, I suspect the new law will pass and that it will result in the

> > analog hole closing on schedule.
> > They will use "national security" to push it. The current analog
> > broadcast spectrum is where they want to put the first responder
> > communication system.
> >
> > My ad for the the HDMI switcher is straight forward and not confusing.
> > However, I agree with you that an HDMI switcher with component inputs,
> > upscaling, and separate audio breakout would be nice. We are working
on
> > one now. Current HDMI does not support multi-channel audio so we
> > recommend that our customers use a separate audio output to feed their
> > receiver or preamp.
> >
> > Bob
>
>
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