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You're right Dale - I wrote quickly without much thought.
I believe in the rights of artists. I also believe that our copyright
system has gone way too far to protect even long dead artists so that
generations of their family for centuries to come profit from their
creations. Just like drugs eventually go generic, there comes a point
where it belongs in the public domain.
I also believe that changing the world's behavior in regards to copying
digital material is simply not going to happen. You may curb some
behavior here and there, but technology just doesn't work that way. Kids
always learn faster than their parents, which means they can't be taught
right from wrong the same way they can about other things. A good
example is immigrants who come to the US with children. The kids learn
English in weeks/months, while the parents often struggle far longer.
Those kids walk all over their parents and are often a real discipline
problem.
Like you, I believe that the distant future involves a major digital
product launch with residual revenue from alternate distribution. Look
at Netscape, or Red Hat Linux - they give the product away to consumers,
but charge for companies. This is a very successful model, and the movie
industry can learn from it.
Another point is perhaps Sandra Bullock doesn't deserve $20 million for
each picture. The film industry is basically running on fumes. It's
hardly worth $9 to see a movie, but as someone pointed out, it's such an
ingrained part of our culture (I think they used 'herd mentality') that
it's still alive and kicking. If everyone had a real home theater and a
high speed internet connection, it would only be a matter of time before
the movie theater industry starts to really die.
My point here is that the film industry mega corporations are dinosaurs.
They better change with the times in a drastic manner or they will fail
spectacularly. I fully support the rights of any artist to make a living
selling their work, but if the process can't protect the group of people
(us) that made this transition happen in the first place, then line me
up with the pirates downloading their precious copyrighted works. If
they want us to spend millions on their equipment, then not come up with
a solution that enables us to actually use it, then they are looking for
a war that they will surely lose. If they had done more than boardroom
talking over the past five years, we would not be in this situation.
That being said, I do think the lack of innovation is partly due to the
downturn in our economy. Had this transition happened from 98-2001, we
had an incredible number of companies and talent who could have
participated. Instead, we are doing it in this mild recession.
If the guy from the MPAA really wants to have a discussion, I think we
would all choose words carefully and engage in a very civil
conversation. I did want to make it clear that I don't think anyone
would accept "we are working very hard to protect the early adopters"
but would need more concrete info.
And don't forget "when fun is outlawed, only the outlaws have fun"
Jason Burroughs
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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Dale E. Cripps
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:23 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Component HD output with Dish 811, 942, 921?
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I have asked the MPAA to be utterly frank and candid with the American
consumers and to open a dialog with you that will lead to a peaceful
position which provides optimum delivery of content to the consumers
over
the longest possible period of time with the least aggravation. There
will
be nothing constructive happen until we realize our full partner in this
supply and demand system rather than living as if in some siege where it
is
"them" against "us". The term "Whitewashed" is typically interpreted as
unflattering and suggestive of deception. It is a prejudice which when
heard must set up a defensive atmosphere in our invited commentators.
Nothing new has ever been learned as long as a prejudice predetermined
the
outcome. Let me urge you to open yourselves to whatever message is
delivered
in whatever way it is delivered and then make your own constructive
decisions and responses. I cannot in good consciousness continue to
invite
guest into an atmosphere of prejudicial chellenge. The stakes here are
much
much higher than whether you can copy a program without hassle. Our
nation
and world runs entirely on digital data and if we as a people want to
break
every lock and destroy our civilization bit by bit, we can. Not every
DRM
objective is technical. We need to also open ourselves to a dialog about
human choices and not limit the debate to whether we can pick a cheap
lock
or not, or how fast, We have to understand what supports this era and
then
act congruently and morally to the natural order inherent to that
support...or be consciously counted among those on the destructive side
of
life. I think we do act congruently with things we clearly understand,
such
as our automobile traffic rules. We stop at the red light. We park at
the
curb. We pay to license the vehicles and we buy insurance. We don't
feel
abused by these acts because we understand them. There would be no need
for
a lock upon our digital vaults if all of us obeyed the rules that
maintain
high economic order as well as we do our traffic laws. We grew up
understanding the order that makes the automobile possible. The few
violators of those laws we treat as an anomaly and not the norm. We do
not
imprison the average citizen because the anomaly has run amok on the
highway. But when we entered the digital age we created a monster and
that
monster is us or related to us. Large scale countermeasures have been
taken
and we complain. Not until we understand the stakes and act more like
good
chauffeurs on the digital highways will we be free of the entanglements
designed to limit widespread malevolent economic decisions and behavior.
A
student of freedom learns quickly that individual responsibility is at
its
heart. -Dale
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I would love to hear the MPAA's case on DRM, and not a whitewashed press
release. It needs to address the tricky aspects such as what happens
when it gets broken on day 3 of it's public release? Or how do they
ensure it's not so onerous as to prevent our legal use of their
material? Etc..
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Dale E. Cripps
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 1:25 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Component HD output with Dish 811, 942, 921?
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I have invited the MPAA to come to our site and make their case (in our
articles section) for copy protection and whatever else they think is
critical in the digital age. I want them to give the public the reason
why whatever they want is crucial to our mutual future. They realize
that their PR is now at rock bottom on these protection issues and they
have engaged a firm to help them explain to the public why protective
measures have been taken. I am sure they want to gain a sympathetic
appreciation from this 'now-cynical' audience. Certainly, Digital Rights
Management in general is not something you just toy with or or abuse
because of access. The entire economic future rests on the respect we
show for the digital backbone. If its quite alright to use another
persons property any way you like, it is then right for all property.
Why not rip off the power grid of their customer list or deface their
home page so it looks like Linda Lovelace is giving you a charge instead
of your power company?
I don't know how successful they (the MPAA) can be in forming a view
that our consumer markets can share with them. Right now they are
weighing the risk of coming into such hostile grounds as we might appear
to be. Nothing they say or do can penitrate a closed mind. If you have
them already pegged as greedy bastards who should have been exterminated
in the Bastille when sharp blades were in style you will never hear
their position nor give it consideration.
I used to raise money for the motion picture business in a previous
life. It was never easy. Short of making the movie itself the money guys
always dictated the terms. That is not any different today but what is
different is our technical society. I have written of the fanciful day
when so many TIVO-like devices will be attached to very wideband ports
on the Internet that a copyright will have a life-span no longer than
its first distribution. Once its out on the net for massive distribution
the endless recording of it places it effectively in the public domain.
Why? Because no one can police such a gargantuan amount of theft. So we
just call theft normal and the new extended distribution scheme the
compensation for that human decision. Such a huge capacity "pipe" to
everyone alive makes the production still profitable from its premier
showing. How much more if they continued to have control over it?
I hope you will welcome with an open mind the MPAA should they decide to
use our platform as a means for communicating their own and real
concerns.
Dale
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>
> Howard,
>
> The MPAA is not going to let you cut back on the ant-acids, make sure
> you have a bottle handy.
>
> If you read my email correctly, component analog connections are a
> target and HDTV early adopters that use them, like you and me, would
> eventually have to consider an early HDTV upgrade suited with DVI or
> HDMI to been able to watch protected content.
>
> It might take another year or two for the matter to be solved and I
> anticipate that it would not be in favor of legacy displays, by then
> (2007) most of those legacy sets would have between 4 and 9 years of
> age, and because they were purchased by real early adopters, at high
> prices, it could be
> replacement time for that type of consumer anyway. Another reason to
> look for a 1080p second
> generation with HDMI or DVI.
>
> The problem I see is that it would not be like selling an older model
> TV when trying to get rid off, the sets would not function well for
> the next owner with copy protected content, which could mean no market
> for those and no resale value, other than moving them to the kids room
> to play video games.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Howard A. Blackstead
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:39 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Component HD output with Dish 811, 942, 921?
>
>
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>
> Thanks to those of you who have put that issue to rest, especially
> Rodolfo! I can cut back on the ant-acids again!
>
> Howard in South Bend
>
>
> On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 22:58 -0400, Dr Robert A Fowkes wrote:
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>>
>> At 08:31 PM 7/12/2005, you wrote:
>> >It has been indicated in another forum that the newer HD stb's (811,
>> >921, 942) do not provide HD signals on the component outputs.
>
>> Whoever made that statement is misinformed. My 921 (like my 6000
>> previously) provides HD content from the component outputs.
>>
>>
>> -- RAF
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