confusion about multiple sound formats for blu-ray and hd-dv

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Multi-channel Audio for HD
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/20 ... nnel_a.php

Richard Fisher
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Jason Burroughs wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Is there a concise list somewhere of the supported video and audio
> codecs for blu-ray and hd-dvd?
>
> What I know so far:
>
> Video: MPEG-2, VC-1, H.264, AVC
>
> Audio: DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, Meridian lossless 5.1, dolby true hd 2.0, dolby
> true hd 7.1, DTS master (?)
>
> Any particular favorite sites for reviews? I'm still finalizing my home
> theater computer setup and amazed at the varying quality - from 500Kb DD
> 5.1 to 2.5Mb MLP 5.1, and from 11Mb VC-1 to 26Mb H.264 (Open Season)
>
> I'm really starting to get into these two new formats, and I hope there
> is more discussion soon about these technical details, especially
> concerning how our equipment is handling them.
>
> I have a 6.1 Sony ES receiver and it has 7.1 preamp outputs - so I've
> bought a 2 channel Onkyo Amp to do the rear surround. So far, I can't
> get it to work how i want to - I have to go from the computer to the 2nd
> amp for those channels, instead of in the sony and out to the onkyo. any
> advice on that would be appreciated.
>
> I figure it's a waste to look for a new receiver until all the codecs
> supported by blu-ray and hd-dvd can be decoded by the receiver at some
> point down the road - plus, i think my next move would be the pre/pro
> route, but I'm clueless where to even start with that. I'm not sure I
> even understand the concept well enough to explain it to someone else.
> Maybe there's a basic tutorial for that out there?
>
> Sorry for the rambling questions...I'm just at the point where lots of
> issues are percolating up and trying to really understand this new world
> - it's a lot of work to really understand what all is changing, but the
> picture quality alone (even on my 1080i crt rptv) is worth it!
>
> Jason
>
>
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Thanks for the link. The article doesn't mention MLP 5.1. Where does it
fit into things? Superman has this format.

Richard Fisher wrote:
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>
> Multi-channel Audio for HD
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/20 ... nnel_a.php
>
> Richard Fisher
> ISF and HAA certified
> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>
> Jason Burroughs wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> Is there a concise list somewhere of the supported video and audio
>> codecs for blu-ray and hd-dvd?
>>
>> What I know so far:
>>
>> Video: MPEG-2, VC-1, H.264, AVC
>>
>> Audio: DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, Meridian lossless 5.1, dolby true hd 2.0,
>> dolby true hd 7.1, DTS master (?)
>>
>> Any particular favorite sites for reviews? I'm still finalizing my
>> home theater computer setup and amazed at the varying quality - from
>> 500Kb DD 5.1 to 2.5Mb MLP 5.1, and from 11Mb VC-1 to 26Mb H.264 (Open
>> Season)
>>
>> I'm really starting to get into these two new formats, and I hope
>> there is more discussion soon about these technical details,
>> especially concerning how our equipment is handling them.
>>
>> I have a 6.1 Sony ES receiver and it has 7.1 preamp outputs - so I've
>> bought a 2 channel Onkyo Amp to do the rear surround. So far, I can't
>> get it to work how i want to - I have to go from the computer to the
>> 2nd amp for those channels, instead of in the sony and out to the
>> onkyo. any advice on that would be appreciated.
>>
>> I figure it's a waste to look for a new receiver until all the codecs
>> supported by blu-ray and hd-dvd can be decoded by the receiver at
>> some point down the road - plus, i think my next move would be the
>> pre/pro route, but I'm clueless where to even start with that. I'm
>> not sure I even understand the concept well enough to explain it to
>> someone else. Maybe there's a basic tutorial for that out there?
>>
>> Sorry for the rambling questions...I'm just at the point where lots
>> of issues are percolating up and trying to really understand this new
>> world - it's a lot of work to really understand what all is changing,
>> but the picture quality alone (even on my 1080i crt rptv) is worth it!
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
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Jason,

Is within Dolby TrueHD, mentioned on the first page as


-----------------
"Dolby TrueHD builds upon the proven foundation of MLP Lossless(tm) by
incorporating higher bit rates, additional channels, enhanced stereo mix
support, and extensive metadata functionality, including dynamic range
control and dialogue normalization. Enabling recordings that are bit-for-bit
identical to studio masters, MLP Lossless was first introduced in DVD-Audio,
and has since become the leading multichannel lossless audio format. In
addition..."
-------------------


DVD-Audio playback is not mandatory on either format, and was not even
mentioned as optional on either format, but its foundation has been rolled
into the newer codec.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:52 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: confusion about multiple sound formats for blu-ray and hd-dvd

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Thanks for the link. The article doesn't mention MLP 5.1. Where does it
fit into things? Superman has this format.

Richard Fisher wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Multi-channel Audio for HD
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/20 ... nnel_a.php
>
> Richard Fisher
> ISF and HAA certified
> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>
> Jason Burroughs wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> Is there a concise list somewhere of the supported video and audio
>> codecs for blu-ray and hd-dvd?
>>
>> What I know so far:
>>
>> Video: MPEG-2, VC-1, H.264, AVC
>>
>> Audio: DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, Meridian lossless 5.1, dolby true hd 2.0,
>> dolby true hd 7.1, DTS master (?)
>>
>> Any particular favorite sites for reviews? I'm still finalizing my
>> home theater computer setup and amazed at the varying quality - from
>> 500Kb DD 5.1 to 2.5Mb MLP 5.1, and from 11Mb VC-1 to 26Mb H.264 (Open
>> Season)
>>
>> I'm really starting to get into these two new formats, and I hope
>> there is more discussion soon about these technical details,
>> especially concerning how our equipment is handling them.
>>
>> I have a 6.1 Sony ES receiver and it has 7.1 preamp outputs - so I've
>> bought a 2 channel Onkyo Amp to do the rear surround. So far, I can't
>> get it to work how i want to - I have to go from the computer to the
>> 2nd amp for those channels, instead of in the sony and out to the
>> onkyo. any advice on that would be appreciated.
>>
>> I figure it's a waste to look for a new receiver until all the codecs
>> supported by blu-ray and hd-dvd can be decoded by the receiver at
>> some point down the road - plus, i think my next move would be the
>> pre/pro route, but I'm clueless where to even start with that. I'm
>> not sure I even understand the concept well enough to explain it to
>> someone else. Maybe there's a basic tutorial for that out there?
>>
>> Sorry for the rambling questions...I'm just at the point where lots
>> of issues are percolating up and trying to really understand this new
>> world - it's a lot of work to really understand what all is changing,
>> but the picture quality alone (even on my 1080i crt rptv) is worth it!
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
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At 12:34 AM 3/9/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>DVD-Audio playback is not mandatory on either format, and was not even
>mentioned as optional on either format, but its foundation has been rolled
>into the newer codec.

Rodolfo,

I wanted to thank you for a most comprehensive and comprehend able
article regarding Multi-channel Audio for HD. As usual, I've been
referring people with questions to it since the article covers a lot
of territory very nicely.

There is one thing that I've been wondering about regarding these
issues that, perhaps, you can answer. There is no question, from my
personal experience, that the HD audio codecs provide a much richer
and less restrictive listening experience (assuming one is not simply
listening to HD media via the TV built-in speakers <g>) than what one
hears from the audio tracks of SD media. I even think that the HD
codecs sound slightly better than what I hear from my SACD and DVD-A
audio discs, but I think that might be a subjective rather than an
objective observation due to the presence of HD video on the HD
discs. I realize that the quality of what you hear is a combination
of the sampling rate of the recording and the bit rate of the
delivery system to your equipment. And the advent of HD discs
provides the much greater space needed to store and deliver the
higher bit rate materials no matter what the sampling rate.

My PS3 does an excellent job when watching Blu-ray titles, of
displaying audio information including sampling rate and bit
rate. So I get a visual indication (as well as the obvious audio
confirmation) that TrueHD is providing bit rates of 5-7Mbps and
DTS-HD is providing 1.5Mbps, etc. It even shows me that "regular" SD
audio tops out at a bit rate of 640kpbs and usually provides
substantially less. While the 640kbps of "regular" DTS is better
than the slightly compromised 384 or 448kpbs bit rate that was caused
by space limitations on early DVDs it clearly can't hold a candle to
bit rates in the millions instead of in the thousands. (I still
recall how we used to rave about the DTS on later generation LDs when
DVD was first introduced in 1997. It was certainly true in those
days that the DTS audio track on these coveted DTS LDs was better
than the corresponding DVD. Remember "Casper?") However, even
though my PS3 can (and does) play SACD (both 2 channel and
multichannel) it does not display the bit rate being produced by SACD
titles. I'm aware of the sampling rates and other technical aspects,
like DSP, of SACDs but I never really thought about the delivery bit
rate of SACD and DVD-A. And, as I said, the PS3 display doesn't
provide this information for SACD titles.

Here's my question (finally!): What is the delivery bit-rate of SACD
and DVD-A? I would assume that it involves MEGAbit rates rather than
KILObit rates because of the resulting sound. However, I've never
found a source that clearly indicates this information. Maybe I've
been looking in the wrong places so I turn to the "master" for a
possible answer. I hope you can clear this up for me (pun intended)
if there is a simple answer.

Thank you.



-- RAF


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Ok, so "MLP 5.1" is really "Dolby TrueHD 5.1"? That's weird!

Jason

Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Jason,
>
> Is within Dolby TrueHD, mentioned on the first page as
>
>
> -----------------
> "Dolby TrueHD builds upon the proven foundation of MLP Lossless(tm) by
> incorporating higher bit rates, additional channels, enhanced stereo mix
> support, and extensive metadata functionality, including dynamic range
> control and dialogue normalization. Enabling recordings that are bit-for-bit
> identical to studio masters, MLP Lossless was first introduced in DVD-Audio,
> and has since become the leading multichannel lossless audio format. In
> addition..."
> -------------------
>
>
> DVD-Audio playback is not mandatory on either format, and was not even
> mentioned as optional on either format, but its foundation has been rolled
> into the newer codec.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Jason Burroughs
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:52 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: confusion about multiple sound formats for blu-ray and hd-dvd
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Thanks for the link. The article doesn't mention MLP 5.1. Where does it
> fit into things? Superman has this format.
>
> Richard Fisher wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Multi-channel Audio for HD
>> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/20 ... nnel_a.php
>>
>> Richard Fisher
>> ISF and HAA certified
>> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
>> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>>
>> Jason Burroughs wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a concise list somewhere of the supported video and audio
>>> codecs for blu-ray and hd-dvd?
>>>
>>> What I know so far:
>>>
>>> Video: MPEG-2, VC-1, H.264, AVC
>>>
>>> Audio: DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, Meridian lossless 5.1, dolby true hd 2.0,
>>> dolby true hd 7.1, DTS master (?)
>>>
>>> Any particular favorite sites for reviews? I'm still finalizing my
>>> home theater computer setup and amazed at the varying quality - from
>>> 500Kb DD 5.1 to 2.5Mb MLP 5.1, and from 11Mb VC-1 to 26Mb H.264 (Open
>>> Season)
>>>
>>> I'm really starting to get into these two new formats, and I hope
>>> there is more discussion soon about these technical details,
>>> especially concerning how our equipment is handling them.
>>>
>>> I have a 6.1 Sony ES receiver and it has 7.1 preamp outputs - so I've
>>> bought a 2 channel Onkyo Amp to do the rear surround. So far, I can't
>>> get it to work how i want to - I have to go from the computer to the
>>> 2nd amp for those channels, instead of in the sony and out to the
>>> onkyo. any advice on that would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> I figure it's a waste to look for a new receiver until all the codecs
>>> supported by blu-ray and hd-dvd can be decoded by the receiver at
>>> some point down the road - plus, i think my next move would be the
>>> pre/pro route, but I'm clueless where to even start with that. I'm
>>> not sure I even understand the concept well enough to explain it to
>>> someone else. Maybe there's a basic tutorial for that out there?
>>>
>>> Sorry for the rambling questions...I'm just at the point where lots
>>> of issues are percolating up and trying to really understand this new
>>> world - it's a lot of work to really understand what all is changing,
>>> but the picture quality alone (even on my 1080i crt rptv) is worth it!
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Robert,

You would find the information in our own Glossary.

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/glossary.php

Let me tell you a bit of background about how that complex glossary was
created and why.

I was writing for the HDTVetc and DVDetc magazines back in 2003; Clint
Walker, the editor-in-chief at that time, great guy, asked me "let us do now
a special issue, it will be a large project, and want you to make sure all
the technical and historical content is accurate", so he hired me to perform
as the HDTVetc Reference Guide consultant, in addition to write my own
pieces for it.

When I started checking the other articles they wanted to reuse for that
issue I found so many errors that I had to rewrite large parts of them, but
one was absolutely horrible, their Glossary of HDTV Terms, that required a
complete rewrite.

Their Glossary was only a few pages long, was mainly focused to audio, and
lacked depth, it was like a brief dictionary, no educational substance in
explaining each subject. So here I am now, not knowing what to tell to
these guys to avoid offending them, but the problem was, I was hired to do
the full issue job, my name would be on that special issue, and that
glossary was within it.

To make the story short I ended up writing an entire new glossary, it took
me a couple of months of effort, about 10,000 words (a $5K piece at my rate
back then), but because I wanted those magazines and HDTV to succeed (there
was nothing dedicated to HDTV "in print" at that time on the magazine
industry), I decided to make it as my special voluntary contribution to the
cause of HDTV, no charge.

Because I am still the owner of it, the Glossary became my special
contribution to our HDTV Magazine as well.

If you do not find something about HDTV and multi-channel audio on that
Glossary is because the item might be very new and I did not have the chance
to add it yet, so help our magazine out and find holes please, that would be
the Tips list contribution to the HDTV cause.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of Dr
Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:02 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: confusion about multiple sound formats for blu-ray and hd-dvd

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At 12:34 AM 3/9/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>DVD-Audio playback is not mandatory on either format, and was not even
>mentioned as optional on either format, but its foundation has been rolled
>into the newer codec.

Rodolfo,

I wanted to thank you for a most comprehensive and comprehend able
article regarding Multi-channel Audio for HD. As usual, I've been
referring people with questions to it since the article covers a lot
of territory very nicely.

There is one thing that I've been wondering about regarding these
issues that, perhaps, you can answer. There is no question, from my
personal experience, that the HD audio codecs provide a much richer
and less restrictive listening experience (assuming one is not simply
listening to HD media via the TV built-in speakers <g>) than what one
hears from the audio tracks of SD media. I even think that the HD
codecs sound slightly better than what I hear from my SACD and DVD-A
audio discs, but I think that might be a subjective rather than an
objective observation due to the presence of HD video on the HD
discs. I realize that the quality of what you hear is a combination
of the sampling rate of the recording and the bit rate of the
delivery system to your equipment. And the advent of HD discs
provides the much greater space needed to store and deliver the
higher bit rate materials no matter what the sampling rate.

My PS3 does an excellent job when watching Blu-ray titles, of
displaying audio information including sampling rate and bit
rate. So I get a visual indication (as well as the obvious audio
confirmation) that TrueHD is providing bit rates of 5-7Mbps and
DTS-HD is providing 1.5Mbps, etc. It even shows me that "regular" SD
audio tops out at a bit rate of 640kpbs and usually provides
substantially less. While the 640kbps of "regular" DTS is better
than the slightly compromised 384 or 448kpbs bit rate that was caused
by space limitations on early DVDs it clearly can't hold a candle to
bit rates in the millions instead of in the thousands. (I still
recall how we used to rave about the DTS on later generation LDs when
DVD was first introduced in 1997. It was certainly true in those
days that the DTS audio track on these coveted DTS LDs was better
than the corresponding DVD. Remember "Casper?") However, even
though my PS3 can (and does) play SACD (both 2 channel and
multichannel) it does not display the bit rate being produced by SACD
titles. I'm aware of the sampling rates and other technical aspects,
like DSP, of SACDs but I never really thought about the delivery bit
rate of SACD and DVD-A. And, as I said, the PS3 display doesn't
provide this information for SACD titles.

Here's my question (finally!): What is the delivery bit-rate of SACD
and DVD-A? I would assume that it involves MEGAbit rates rather than
KILObit rates because of the resulting sound. However, I've never
found a source that clearly indicates this information. Maybe I've
been looking in the wrong places so I turn to the "master" for a
possible answer. I hope you can clear this up for me (pun intended)
if there is a simple answer.

Thank you.



-- RAF


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No. The foundation is MLP.

Formats evolve upon foundations when the foundation is worth and solid.

DTS did the same with their set of extensions over their DTS "core", all the
way up to Master Audio.

That the format is so flexible that one could come all the way down to the
core DTS 5.1 1.5 Mbps from the DTS HD Master Audio (20 times as resolved) by
unresolving the extensions, a very intelligent manner to grow without
abandoning legacy, in one single format.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:22 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: confusion about multiple sound formats for blu-ray and hd-dvd

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Ok, so "MLP 5.1" is really "Dolby TrueHD 5.1"? That's weird!

Jason

Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Jason,
>
> Is within Dolby TrueHD, mentioned on the first page as
>
>
> -----------------
> "Dolby TrueHD builds upon the proven foundation of MLP Lossless(tm) by
> incorporating higher bit rates, additional channels, enhanced stereo mix
> support, and extensive metadata functionality, including dynamic range
> control and dialogue normalization. Enabling recordings that are
bit-for-bit
> identical to studio masters, MLP Lossless was first introduced in
DVD-Audio,
> and has since become the leading multichannel lossless audio format. In
> addition..."
> -------------------
>
>
> DVD-Audio playback is not mandatory on either format, and was not even
> mentioned as optional on either format, but its foundation has been rolled
> into the newer codec.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Jason Burroughs
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:52 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: confusion about multiple sound formats for blu-ray and hd-dvd
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Thanks for the link. The article doesn't mention MLP 5.1. Where does it
> fit into things? Superman has this format.
>
> Richard Fisher wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Multi-channel Audio for HD
>> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/20 ... nnel_a.php
>>
>> Richard Fisher
>> ISF and HAA certified
>> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
>> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>>
>> Jason Burroughs wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a concise list somewhere of the supported video and audio
>>> codecs for blu-ray and hd-dvd?
>>>
>>> What I know so far:
>>>
>>> Video: MPEG-2, VC-1, H.264, AVC
>>>
>>> Audio: DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, Meridian lossless 5.1, dolby true hd 2.0,
>>> dolby true hd 7.1, DTS master (?)
>>>
>>> Any particular favorite sites for reviews? I'm still finalizing my
>>> home theater computer setup and amazed at the varying quality - from
>>> 500Kb DD 5.1 to 2.5Mb MLP 5.1, and from 11Mb VC-1 to 26Mb H.264 (Open
>>> Season)
>>>
>>> I'm really starting to get into these two new formats, and I hope
>>> there is more discussion soon about these technical details,
>>> especially concerning how our equipment is handling them.
>>>
>>> I have a 6.1 Sony ES receiver and it has 7.1 preamp outputs - so I've
>>> bought a 2 channel Onkyo Amp to do the rear surround. So far, I can't
>>> get it to work how i want to - I have to go from the computer to the
>>> 2nd amp for those channels, instead of in the sony and out to the
>>> onkyo. any advice on that would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> I figure it's a waste to look for a new receiver until all the codecs
>>> supported by blu-ray and hd-dvd can be decoded by the receiver at
>>> some point down the road - plus, i think my next move would be the
>>> pre/pro route, but I'm clueless where to even start with that. I'm
>>> not sure I even understand the concept well enough to explain it to
>>> someone else. Maybe there's a basic tutorial for that out there?
>>>
>>> Sorry for the rambling questions...I'm just at the point where lots
>>> of issues are percolating up and trying to really understand this new
>>> world - it's a lot of work to really understand what all is changing,
>>> but the picture quality alone (even on my 1080i crt rptv) is worth it!
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
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