Dish 110 transponders

Started by aggie Jul 20, 2005 22 posts
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#1
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Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a bunch of Dish 110 odd
transponders. They were back this AM. Anyone else have this happen?

Maybe I have another gremlin!

Howard in South Bend



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#2
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--- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a bunch of Dish
> 110 odd
> transponders. They were back this AM. Anyone else
> have this happen?
>
> Maybe I have another gremlin!
>
> Howard in South Bend

DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night. They had it
back up is several hours.

Bobby C


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#3
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Thanks! Now I don't need to call for service!
Howard in South Bend

On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob Caplan wrote:
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>
>
> --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a bunch of Dish
> > 110 odd
> > transponders. They were back this AM. Anyone else
> > have this happen?
> >
> > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> >
> > Howard in South Bend
>
> DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night. They had it
> back up is several hours.
>
> Bobby C
>
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#4
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Would the loss of these transponders have anything to
do with the loss of digital OTA signals thru my 8vsb
tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered up my system
this morning I had lost all but two of my digital OTA
channels. They were all still listed in my local
channels but I could not tune them in. I did a power
switch reboot and a power cord reboot and then spent
thirty minutes on the phone with Dish, none of which
solved the problem.

Joe Soprano
San Diego

--- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Thanks! Now I don't need to call for service!
> Howard in South Bend
>
> On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob Caplan wrote:
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a bunch of
> Dish
> > > 110 odd
> > > transponders. They were back this AM. Anyone
> else
> > > have this happen?
> > >
> > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > >
> > > Howard in South Bend
> >
> > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night. They had
> it
> > back up is several hours.
> >
> > Bobby C
> >
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#5
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No, I don't think that they are related. What may
have happened is that your local towers were brought
down for maintenance. This happens occsionally in the
Bay Area. There is little redundacy for digital
channels today. If they have to turn off the signal
for the safety of the workers, they shut them off,
period. They usually do this maintenance during the
day and turn back on about 4-5PM.

Have your stations returned?

Bobby C

--- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Would the loss of these transponders have anything
> to
> do with the loss of digital OTA signals thru my 8vsb
> tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered up my
> system
> this morning I had lost all but two of my digital
> OTA
> channels. They were all still listed in my local
> channels but I could not tune them in. I did a
> power
> switch reboot and a power cord reboot and then spent
> thirty minutes on the phone with Dish, none of which
> solved the problem.
>
> Joe Soprano
> San Diego
>
> --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Thanks! Now I don't need to call for service!
> > Howard in South Bend
> >
> > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob Caplan
> wrote:
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > >
> > > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a bunch of
> > Dish
> > > > 110 odd
> > > > transponders. They were back this AM. Anyone
> > else
> > > > have this happen?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > > >
> > > > Howard in South Bend
> > >
> > > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night. They
> had
> > it
> > > back up is several hours.
> > >
> > > Bobby C
> > >
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#6
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My local digital channels have not returned. I have
spoken with the engineering department at local ABC
affiliate and their digital transmitter has been down
since Sunday Morning and won't be up again until
tomorrow. When I do a digital scan I acquire 24
channels one of which is CBS but the strange thing is
that many of the acquired channels do not show up on
the guide. I'm going to hook up my old 6000 receiver
and see if I experience the same problem. If no
problem should I assume the 8vsb tuner is faulty?
Should I try the same procedure you recommended last
time?

--- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> No, I don't think that they are related. What may
> have happened is that your local towers were brought
> down for maintenance. This happens occsionally in
> the
> Bay Area. There is little redundacy for digital
> channels today. If they have to turn off the signal
> for the safety of the workers, they shut them off,
> period. They usually do this maintenance during the
> day and turn back on about 4-5PM.
>
> Have your stations returned?
>
> Bobby C
>
> --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Would the loss of these transponders have anything
> > to
> > do with the loss of digital OTA signals thru my
> 8vsb
> > tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered up my
> > system
> > this morning I had lost all but two of my digital
> > OTA
> > channels. They were all still listed in my local
> > channels but I could not tune them in. I did a
> > power
> > switch reboot and a power cord reboot and then
> spent
> > thirty minutes on the phone with Dish, none of
> which
> > solved the problem.
> >
> > Joe Soprano
> > San Diego
> >
> > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > > Thanks! Now I don't need to call for service!
> > > Howard in South Bend
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob Caplan
> > wrote:
> > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a bunch
> of
> > > Dish
> > > > > 110 odd
> > > > > transponders. They were back this AM.
> Anyone
> > > else
> > > > > have this happen?
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > > > >
> > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > >
> > > > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night. They
> > had
> > > it
> > > > back up is several hours.
> > > >
> > > > Bobby C
> > > >
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#7
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Joe, Yes, I'd try the same thing we did last time.
Often the PSIP stuff gets confused.

Bobby C

--- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> My local digital channels have not returned. I have
> spoken with the engineering department at local ABC
> affiliate and their digital transmitter has been
> down
> since Sunday Morning and won't be up again until
> tomorrow. When I do a digital scan I acquire 24
> channels one of which is CBS but the strange thing
> is
> that many of the acquired channels do not show up on
> the guide. I'm going to hook up my old 6000
> receiver
> and see if I experience the same problem. If no
> problem should I assume the 8vsb tuner is faulty?
> Should I try the same procedure you recommended last
> time?
>
> --- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > No, I don't think that they are related. What may
> > have happened is that your local towers were
> brought
> > down for maintenance. This happens occsionally in
> > the
> > Bay Area. There is little redundacy for digital
> > channels today. If they have to turn off the
> signal
> > for the safety of the workers, they shut them off,
> > period. They usually do this maintenance during
> the
> > day and turn back on about 4-5PM.
> >
> > Have your stations returned?
> >
> > Bobby C
> >
> > --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > > Would the loss of these transponders have
> anything
> > > to
> > > do with the loss of digital OTA signals thru my
> > 8vsb
> > > tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered up my
> > > system
> > > this morning I had lost all but two of my
> digital
> > > OTA
> > > channels. They were all still listed in my
> local
> > > channels but I could not tune them in. I did a
> > > power
> > > switch reboot and a power cord reboot and then
> > spent
> > > thirty minutes on the phone with Dish, none of
> > which
> > > solved the problem.
> > >
> > > Joe Soprano
> > > San Diego
> > >
> > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! Now I don't need to call for service!
> > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob Caplan
> > > wrote:
> > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a
> bunch
> > of
> > > > Dish
> > > > > > 110 odd
> > > > > > transponders. They were back this AM.
> > Anyone
> > > > else
> > > > > > have this happen?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > >
> > > > > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night.
> They
> > > had
> > > > it
> > > > > back up is several hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bobby C
> > > > >
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#8
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Thanks, Bobby - I'll try it in the morning and let you
know the results.

Joe

--- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> Joe, Yes, I'd try the same thing we did last time.
> Often the PSIP stuff gets confused.
>
> Bobby C
>
> --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > My local digital channels have not returned. I
> have
> > spoken with the engineering department at local
> ABC
> > affiliate and their digital transmitter has been
> > down
> > since Sunday Morning and won't be up again until
> > tomorrow. When I do a digital scan I acquire 24
> > channels one of which is CBS but the strange thing
> > is
> > that many of the acquired channels do not show up
> on
> > the guide. I'm going to hook up my old 6000
> > receiver
> > and see if I experience the same problem. If no
> > problem should I assume the 8vsb tuner is faulty?
> > Should I try the same procedure you recommended
> last
> > time?
> >
> > --- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > > No, I don't think that they are related. What
> may
> > > have happened is that your local towers were
> > brought
> > > down for maintenance. This happens occsionally
> in
> > > the
> > > Bay Area. There is little redundacy for digital
> > > channels today. If they have to turn off the
> > signal
> > > for the safety of the workers, they shut them
> off,
> > > period. They usually do this maintenance during
> > the
> > > day and turn back on about 4-5PM.
> > >
> > > Have your stations returned?
> > >
> > > Bobby C
> > >
> > > --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > >
> > > > Would the loss of these transponders have
> > anything
> > > > to
> > > > do with the loss of digital OTA signals thru
> my
> > > 8vsb
> > > > tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered up
> my
> > > > system
> > > > this morning I had lost all but two of my
> > digital
> > > > OTA
> > > > channels. They were all still listed in my
> > local
> > > > channels but I could not tune them in. I did
> a
> > > > power
> > > > switch reboot and a power cord reboot and then
> > > spent
> > > > thirty minutes on the phone with Dish, none of
> > > which
> > > > solved the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Joe Soprano
> > > > San Diego
> > > >
> > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks! Now I don't need to call for
> service!
> > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob
> Caplan
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead"
> <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a
> > bunch
> > > of
> > > > > Dish
> > > > > > > 110 odd
> > > > > > > transponders. They were back this AM.
> > > Anyone
> > > > > else
> > > > > > > have this happen?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night.
> > They
> > > > had
> > > > > it
> > > > > > back up is several hours.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bobby C
> > > > > >
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#9
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Joe, My 6000 behaved strangely for a while, but I did not have to do
anything to it. (back to normal in the AM).

Howard in South Bend




On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:49 -0700, Joe Soprano dba Fun Services wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Would the loss of these transponders have anything to
> do with the loss of digital OTA signals thru my 8vsb
> tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered up my system
> this morning I had lost all but two of my digital OTA
> channels. They were all still listed in my local
> channels but I could not tune them in. I did a power
> switch reboot and a power cord reboot and then spent
> thirty minutes on the phone with Dish, none of which
> solved the problem.
>
> Joe Soprano
> San Diego
>
> --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Thanks! Now I don't need to call for service!
> > Howard in South Bend
> >
> > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob Caplan wrote:
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > >
> > > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a bunch of
> > Dish
> > > > 110 odd
> > > > transponders. They were back this AM. Anyone
> > else
> > > > have this happen?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > > >
> > > > Howard in South Bend
> > >
> > > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night. They had
> > it
> > > back up is several hours.
> > >
> > > Bobby C
> > >
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#10
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Dish upgraded the 921 software yesterday to L216 and numerous people
complained that they lost their OTA channels. Check here for a discussion.
http://dbstalk.com/

Carter Hopkins

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Soprano dba Fun Services" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Thanks, Bobby - I'll try it in the morning and let you
> know the results.
>
> Joe
>
> --- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Joe, Yes, I'd try the same thing we did last time.
> > Often the PSIP stuff gets confused.
> >
> > Bobby C
> >
> > --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > > My local digital channels have not returned. I
> > have
> > > spoken with the engineering department at local
> > ABC
> > > affiliate and their digital transmitter has been
> > > down
> > > since Sunday Morning and won't be up again until
> > > tomorrow. When I do a digital scan I acquire 24
> > > channels one of which is CBS but the strange thing
> > > is
> > > that many of the acquired channels do not show up
> > on
> > > the guide. I'm going to hook up my old 6000
> > > receiver
> > > and see if I experience the same problem. If no
> > > problem should I assume the 8vsb tuner is faulty?
> > > Should I try the same procedure you recommended
> > last
> > > time?
> > >
> > > --- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > >
> > > > No, I don't think that they are related. What
> > may
> > > > have happened is that your local towers were
> > > brought
> > > > down for maintenance. This happens occsionally
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > Bay Area. There is little redundacy for digital
> > > > channels today. If they have to turn off the
> > > signal
> > > > for the safety of the workers, they shut them
> > off,
> > > > period. They usually do this maintenance during
> > > the
> > > > day and turn back on about 4-5PM.
> > > >
> > > > Have your stations returned?
> > > >
> > > > Bobby C
> > > >
> > > > --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > >
> > > > > Would the loss of these transponders have
> > > anything
> > > > > to
> > > > > do with the loss of digital OTA signals thru
> > my
> > > > 8vsb
> > > > > tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered up
> > my
> > > > > system
> > > > > this morning I had lost all but two of my
> > > digital
> > > > > OTA
> > > > > channels. They were all still listed in my
> > > local
> > > > > channels but I could not tune them in. I did
> > a
> > > > > power
> > > > > switch reboot and a power cord reboot and then
> > > > spent
> > > > > thirty minutes on the phone with Dish, none of
> > > > which
> > > > > solved the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe Soprano
> > > > > San Diego
> > > > >
> > > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead" <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks! Now I don't need to call for
> > service!
> > > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob
> > Caplan
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead"
> > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on a
> > > bunch
> > > > of
> > > > > > Dish
> > > > > > > > 110 odd
> > > > > > > > transponders. They were back this AM.
> > > > Anyone
> > > > > > else
> > > > > > > > have this happen?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last night.
> > > They
> > > > > had
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > back up is several hours.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bobby C
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Thanks, Carter. The DBSTalk link you provided was
very helpful. It appears that Dish programmers have
some work to do. I imagine anyone with a 921 receiver
is experiencing major problems right now.

Joe Soprano
San Diego

--- Carter Hopkins <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Dish upgraded the 921 software yesterday to L216 and
> numerous people
> complained that they lost their OTA channels. Check
> here for a discussion.
> http://dbstalk.com/
>
> Carter Hopkins
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Soprano dba Fun Services"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders
>
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Thanks, Bobby - I'll try it in the morning and let
> you
> > know the results.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > > Joe, Yes, I'd try the same thing we did last
> time.
> > > Often the PSIP stuff gets confused.
> > >
> > > Bobby C
> > >
> > > --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > >
> > > > My local digital channels have not returned.
> I
> > > have
> > > > spoken with the engineering department at
> local
> > > ABC
> > > > affiliate and their digital transmitter has
> been
> > > > down
> > > > since Sunday Morning and won't be up again
> until
> > > > tomorrow. When I do a digital scan I acquire
> 24
> > > > channels one of which is CBS but the strange
> thing
> > > > is
> > > > that many of the acquired channels do not show
> up
> > > on
> > > > the guide. I'm going to hook up my old 6000
> > > > receiver
> > > > and see if I experience the same problem. If
> no
> > > > problem should I assume the 8vsb tuner is
> faulty?
> > > > Should I try the same procedure you
> recommended
> > > last
> > > > time?
> > > >
> > > > --- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I don't think that they are related.
> What
> > > may
> > > > > have happened is that your local towers were
> > > > brought
> > > > > down for maintenance. This happens
> occsionally
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > Bay Area. There is little redundacy for
> digital
> > > > > channels today. If they have to turn off the
> > > > signal
> > > > > for the safety of the workers, they shut
> them
> > > off,
> > > > > period. They usually do this maintenance
> during
> > > > the
> > > > > day and turn back on about 4-5PM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have your stations returned?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bobby C
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would the loss of these transponders have
> > > > anything
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > do with the loss of digital OTA signals
> thru
> > > my
> > > > > 8vsb
> > > > > > tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered
> up
> > > my
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > this morning I had lost all but two of my
> > > > digital
> > > > > > OTA
> > > > > > channels. They were all still listed in
> my
> > > > local
> > > > > > channels but I could not tune them in. I
> did
> > > a
> > > > > > power
> > > > > > switch reboot and a power cord reboot and
> then
> > > > > spent
> > > > > > thirty minutes on the phone with Dish,
> none of
> > > > > which
> > > > > > solved the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe Soprano
> > > > > > San Diego
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead"
> <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks! Now I don't need to call for
> > > service!
> > > > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob
> > > Caplan
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead"
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on
> a
> > > > bunch
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > Dish
> > > > > > > > > 110 odd
> > > > > > > > > transponders. They were back this
> AM.
> > > > > Anyone
> > > > > > > else
> > > > > > > > > have this happen?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last
> night.
> > > > They
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > back up is several hours.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bobby C
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Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
comparison.

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:06 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Thanks, Carter. The DBSTalk link you provided was
very helpful. It appears that Dish programmers have
some work to do. I imagine anyone with a 921 receiver
is experiencing major problems right now.

Joe Soprano
San Diego

--- Carter Hopkins <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Dish upgraded the 921 software yesterday to L216 and
> numerous people
> complained that they lost their OTA channels. Check
> here for a discussion.
> http://dbstalk.com/
>
> Carter Hopkins
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Soprano dba Fun Services"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders
>
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Thanks, Bobby - I'll try it in the morning and let
> you
> > know the results.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > >
> > > Joe, Yes, I'd try the same thing we did last
> time.
> > > Often the PSIP stuff gets confused.
> > >
> > > Bobby C
> > >
> > > --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > >
> > > > My local digital channels have not returned.
> I
> > > have
> > > > spoken with the engineering department at
> local
> > > ABC
> > > > affiliate and their digital transmitter has
> been
> > > > down
> > > > since Sunday Morning and won't be up again
> until
> > > > tomorrow. When I do a digital scan I acquire
> 24
> > > > channels one of which is CBS but the strange
> thing
> > > > is
> > > > that many of the acquired channels do not show
> up
> > > on
> > > > the guide. I'm going to hook up my old 6000
> > > > receiver
> > > > and see if I experience the same problem. If
> no
> > > > problem should I assume the 8vsb tuner is
> faulty?
> > > > Should I try the same procedure you
> recommended
> > > last
> > > > time?
> > > >
> > > > --- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I don't think that they are related.
> What
> > > may
> > > > > have happened is that your local towers were
> > > > brought
> > > > > down for maintenance. This happens
> occsionally
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > Bay Area. There is little redundacy for
> digital
> > > > > channels today. If they have to turn off the
> > > > signal
> > > > > for the safety of the workers, they shut
> them
> > > off,
> > > > > period. They usually do this maintenance
> during
> > > > the
> > > > > day and turn back on about 4-5PM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have your stations returned?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bobby C
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Joe Soprano dba Fun Services
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would the loss of these transponders have
> > > > anything
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > do with the loss of digital OTA signals
> thru
> > > my
> > > > > 8vsb
> > > > > > tuner in my 921 receiver? When I powered
> up
> > > my
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > this morning I had lost all but two of my
> > > > digital
> > > > > > OTA
> > > > > > channels. They were all still listed in
> my
> > > > local
> > > > > > channels but I could not tune them in. I
> did
> > > a
> > > > > > power
> > > > > > switch reboot and a power cord reboot and
> then
> > > > > spent
> > > > > > thirty minutes on the phone with Dish,
> none of
> > > > > which
> > > > > > solved the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe Soprano
> > > > > > San Diego
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead"
> <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks! Now I don't need to call for
> > > service!
> > > > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:07 -0700, Bob
> > > Caplan
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- "Howard A. Blackstead"
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi: Late last eve I lost signals on
> a
> > > > bunch
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > Dish
> > > > > > > > > 110 odd
> > > > > > > > > transponders. They were back this
> AM.
> > > > > Anyone
> > > > > > > else
> > > > > > > > > have this happen?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maybe I have another gremlin!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Howard in South Bend
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > DishNetwork lost most of 110 last
> night.
> > > > They
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > back up is several hours.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bobby C
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At 10:19 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
>cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
>comparison.

In my neck of the woods (NY Cablevision) it's a no-brainer. I was a
cable subscriber since the beginning and I wouldn't have cable in my
house if I received it for free. Service was atrocious, quality was
terrible and downtime was unacceptable. Let me put it to you this
way - with Cable I was at the mercy of what was happening anywhere on
my line of the system. Every time work was done on another house my
signal was affected. I saw the cable service guys more often than I
saw my kids! And the service guys were contract nomads with
absolutely no interest in quality control. When I switched to a dish
it was like night and day. The connection is between my dishes and
the satellites, not between my house and an intricate wired
network. Yes, sunspots and the occasional heavy rain with interrupt
service for a couple of minutes (I estimate downtime to be no more
than 15 minutes per year where I live). With cable, every windstorm
or heavy rain brought an adventure and an outage - not to mention the
other service issues talked about above.

I went with DISH and have no regrets at all. Now with expanded HD
offerings it's even better. You couldn't pay me to go back to cable.


-- RAF


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#14
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Unfortunately living in Florida we have more weather issues to deal with.
My neighbor switched to "Direct TV" and has had nothing but service
interuptions due to even the smallest cloud. So I have a feeling quality
depends to some degree on local.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
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Dr Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


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At 10:19 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
>cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
>comparison.

In my neck of the woods (NY Cablevision) it's a no-brainer. I was a
cable subscriber since the beginning and I wouldn't have cable in my
house if I received it for free. Service was atrocious, quality was
terrible and downtime was unacceptable. Let me put it to you this
way - with Cable I was at the mercy of what was happening anywhere on
my line of the system. Every time work was done on another house my
signal was affected. I saw the cable service guys more often than I
saw my kids! And the service guys were contract nomads with
absolutely no interest in quality control. When I switched to a dish
it was like night and day. The connection is between my dishes and
the satellites, not between my house and an intricate wired
network. Yes, sunspots and the occasional heavy rain with interrupt
service for a couple of minutes (I estimate downtime to be no more
than 15 minutes per year where I live). With cable, every windstorm
or heavy rain brought an adventure and an outage - not to mention the
other service issues talked about above.

I went with DISH and have no regrets at all. Now with expanded HD
offerings it's even better. You couldn't pay me to go back to cable.


-- RAF


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#15
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I think Charlie Ergan would pay a tidy sum for this unsolicited statement!
He could build an entire campaign around it. Shall I broker the deal?

Only Half In Jest,
Dale

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>
> At 10:19 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>>Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
>>cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
>>comparison.
>
> In my neck of the woods (NY Cablevision) it's a no-brainer. I was a cable
> subscriber since the beginning and I wouldn't have cable in my house if I
> received it for free. Service was atrocious, quality was terrible and
> downtime was unacceptable. Let me put it to you this way - with Cable I
> was at the mercy of what was happening anywhere on my line of the system.
> Every time work was done on another house my signal was affected. I saw
> the cable service guys more often than I saw my kids! And the service
> guys were contract nomads with absolutely no interest in quality control.
> When I switched to a dish it was like night and day. The connection is
> between my dishes and the satellites, not between my house and an
> intricate wired network. Yes, sunspots and the occasional heavy rain with
> interrupt service for a couple of minutes (I estimate downtime to be no
> more than 15 minutes per year where I live). With cable, every windstorm
> or heavy rain brought an adventure and an outage - not to mention the
> other service issues talked about above.
>
> I went with DISH and have no regrets at all. Now with expanded HD
> offerings it's even better. You couldn't pay me to go back to cable.
>
>
> -- RAF
>
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Was this a self-install, or did someone else install it? I've had great
results with DirecTV, but I installed it myself and am a bit of a
perfectionist. I kept fiddling with my alignment until I had 90+ on all
transponders/satellites. My signal rarely fades, although we don't
generally get the thunderstorms you folks do down there in Orlando (I lived
in Tampa for about a year).

Some other things to consider:
- Cable type used? Should be RG6, properly grounded.
- Cable run length? Mine is 50ft, but have heard of some trouble with
longer runs.
- You can buy a larger dish (22" vs 18" as I recall) that increases
reception

... and of course I'm assuming you've taken trees out of the equation ;-)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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Unfortunately living in Florida we have more weather issues to deal with.
My neighbor switched to "Direct TV" and has had nothing but service
interuptions due to even the smallest cloud. So I have a feeling quality
depends to some degree on local.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Dr Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


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At 10:19 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
>cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
>comparison.

In my neck of the woods (NY Cablevision) it's a no-brainer. I was a
cable subscriber since the beginning and I wouldn't have cable in my
house if I received it for free. Service was atrocious, quality was
terrible and downtime was unacceptable. Let me put it to you this
way - with Cable I was at the mercy of what was happening anywhere on
my line of the system. Every time work was done on another house my
signal was affected. I saw the cable service guys more often than I
saw my kids! And the service guys were contract nomads with
absolutely no interest in quality control. When I switched to a dish
it was like night and day. The connection is between my dishes and
the satellites, not between my house and an intricate wired
network. Yes, sunspots and the occasional heavy rain with interrupt
service for a couple of minutes (I estimate downtime to be no more
than 15 minutes per year where I live). With cable, every windstorm
or heavy rain brought an adventure and an outage - not to mention the
other service issues talked about above.

I went with DISH and have no regrets at all. Now with expanded HD
offerings it's even better. You couldn't pay me to go back to cable.


-- RAF


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#17
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It was a "professionally" installed system meaning it was installed by the
mook de jour. It isn't even HD. The guy only has an SD display and he has
no idea how to make adjustments on his own. He's a very low tech guy.
Having said that I know nothing about satellite or how to adjust it so
perhaps in that respect I'm in the same category.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL



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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


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Was this a self-install, or did someone else install it? I've had great
results with DirecTV, but I installed it myself and am a bit of a
perfectionist. I kept fiddling with my alignment until I had 90+ on all
transponders/satellites. My signal rarely fades, although we don't
generally get the thunderstorms you folks do down there in Orlando (I lived
in Tampa for about a year).

Some other things to consider:
- Cable type used? Should be RG6, properly grounded.
- Cable run length? Mine is 50ft, but have heard of some trouble with
longer runs.
- You can buy a larger dish (22" vs 18" as I recall) that increases
reception

... and of course I'm assuming you've taken trees out of the equation ;-)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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Unfortunately living in Florida we have more weather issues to deal with.
My neighbor switched to "Direct TV" and has had nothing but service
interuptions due to even the smallest cloud. So I have a feeling quality
depends to some degree on local.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Dr Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

At 10:19 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
>cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
>comparison.

In my neck of the woods (NY Cablevision) it's a no-brainer. I was a
cable subscriber since the beginning and I wouldn't have cable in my
house if I received it for free. Service was atrocious, quality was
terrible and downtime was unacceptable. Let me put it to you this
way - with Cable I was at the mercy of what was happening anywhere on
my line of the system. Every time work was done on another house my
signal was affected. I saw the cable service guys more often than I
saw my kids! And the service guys were contract nomads with
absolutely no interest in quality control. When I switched to a dish
it was like night and day. The connection is between my dishes and
the satellites, not between my house and an intricate wired
network. Yes, sunspots and the occasional heavy rain with interrupt
service for a couple of minutes (I estimate downtime to be no more
than 15 minutes per year where I live). With cable, every windstorm
or heavy rain brought an adventure and an outage - not to mention the
other service issues talked about above.

I went with DISH and have no regrets at all. Now with expanded HD
offerings it's even better. You couldn't pay me to go back to cable.


-- RAF


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#18
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I would be interested to know what signal strength he is getting on his
setup. With most STB's, this can be obtained through some sort of
"alignment" or "system" menu. I'd be willing to bet his signal strength is
in the low 80's, if that. I can't say for certain, but you might be able to
get DirecTV to send out a "professional" to re-align the dish if your
neighbor threatens to cancel. Especially if it's a new purchase that
included installation. If it is a single satellite system, all "dish
pointing" involves is minute movements of the dish along the x and y until
signal strength improves. If it is a multi-satellite dish (oval vs. round),
then you also have a "tilt" factor involved ... which complicates matters a
bit ... but still doable with a little patience.

Cheers,

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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It was a "professionally" installed system meaning it was installed by the
mook de jour. It isn't even HD. The guy only has an SD display and he has
no idea how to make adjustments on his own. He's a very low tech guy.
Having said that I know nothing about satellite or how to adjust it so
perhaps in that respect I'm in the same category.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL



-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:41 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


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Was this a self-install, or did someone else install it? I've had great
results with DirecTV, but I installed it myself and am a bit of a
perfectionist. I kept fiddling with my alignment until I had 90+ on all
transponders/satellites. My signal rarely fades, although we don't
generally get the thunderstorms you folks do down there in Orlando (I lived
in Tampa for about a year).

Some other things to consider:
- Cable type used? Should be RG6, properly grounded.
- Cable run length? Mine is 50ft, but have heard of some trouble with
longer runs.
- You can buy a larger dish (22" vs 18" as I recall) that increases
reception

... and of course I'm assuming you've taken trees out of the equation ;-)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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Unfortunately living in Florida we have more weather issues to deal with.
My neighbor switched to "Direct TV" and has had nothing but service
interuptions due to even the smallest cloud. So I have a feeling quality
depends to some degree on local.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Dr Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

At 10:19 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
>cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
>comparison.

In my neck of the woods (NY Cablevision) it's a no-brainer. I was a
cable subscriber since the beginning and I wouldn't have cable in my
house if I received it for free. Service was atrocious, quality was
terrible and downtime was unacceptable. Let me put it to you this
way - with Cable I was at the mercy of what was happening anywhere on
my line of the system. Every time work was done on another house my
signal was affected. I saw the cable service guys more often than I
saw my kids! And the service guys were contract nomads with
absolutely no interest in quality control. When I switched to a dish
it was like night and day. The connection is between my dishes and
the satellites, not between my house and an intricate wired
network. Yes, sunspots and the occasional heavy rain with interrupt
service for a couple of minutes (I estimate downtime to be no more
than 15 minutes per year where I live). With cable, every windstorm
or heavy rain brought an adventure and an outage - not to mention the
other service issues talked about above.

I went with DISH and have no regrets at all. Now with expanded HD
offerings it's even better. You couldn't pay me to go back to cable.


-- RAF


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#19
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It's a single system and it is a recent purchase. I will pass this along to
him. Thank you so much for the info.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

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I would be interested to know what signal strength he is getting on his
setup. With most STB's, this can be obtained through some sort of
"alignment" or "system" menu. I'd be willing to bet his signal strength is
in the low 80's, if that. I can't say for certain, but you might be able to
get DirecTV to send out a "professional" to re-align the dish if your
neighbor threatens to cancel. Especially if it's a new purchase that
included installation. If it is a single satellite system, all "dish
pointing" involves is minute movements of the dish along the x and y until
signal strength improves. If it is a multi-satellite dish (oval vs. round),
then you also have a "tilt" factor involved ... which complicates matters a
bit ... but still doable with a little patience.

Cheers,

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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It was a "professionally" installed system meaning it was installed by the
mook de jour. It isn't even HD. The guy only has an SD display and he has
no idea how to make adjustments on his own. He's a very low tech guy.
Having said that I know nothing about satellite or how to adjust it so
perhaps in that respect I'm in the same category.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL



-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:41 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


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Was this a self-install, or did someone else install it? I've had great
results with DirecTV, but I installed it myself and am a bit of a
perfectionist. I kept fiddling with my alignment until I had 90+ on all
transponders/satellites. My signal rarely fades, although we don't
generally get the thunderstorms you folks do down there in Orlando (I lived
in Tampa for about a year).

Some other things to consider:
- Cable type used? Should be RG6, properly grounded.
- Cable run length? Mine is 50ft, but have heard of some trouble with
longer runs.
- You can buy a larger dish (22" vs 18" as I recall) that increases
reception

... and of course I'm assuming you've taken trees out of the equation ;-)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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Unfortunately living in Florida we have more weather issues to deal with.
My neighbor switched to "Direct TV" and has had nothing but service
interuptions due to even the smallest cloud. So I have a feeling quality
depends to some degree on local.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Dr Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

At 10:19 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
>cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
>comparison.

In my neck of the woods (NY Cablevision) it's a no-brainer. I was a
cable subscriber since the beginning and I wouldn't have cable in my
house if I received it for free. Service was atrocious, quality was
terrible and downtime was unacceptable. Let me put it to you this
way - with Cable I was at the mercy of what was happening anywhere on
my line of the system. Every time work was done on another house my
signal was affected. I saw the cable service guys more often than I
saw my kids! And the service guys were contract nomads with
absolutely no interest in quality control. When I switched to a dish
it was like night and day. The connection is between my dishes and
the satellites, not between my house and an intricate wired
network. Yes, sunspots and the occasional heavy rain with interrupt
service for a couple of minutes (I estimate downtime to be no more
than 15 minutes per year where I live). With cable, every windstorm
or heavy rain brought an adventure and an outage - not to mention the
other service issues talked about above.

I went with DISH and have no regrets at all. Now with expanded HD
offerings it's even better. You couldn't pay me to go back to cable.


-- RAF


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I am in SC and get 90+ on all setups. Usually sat A is 95-98% and the others
lower 90's at worst. Of course it does depend on what transponder is being
read as they do vary quite a bit. In Florida you should get at least what I
get on setups as you are closer to the sats than I am. As Shane stated, it
is probably just repositioning the dish first, which is not hard at all.
Just make 1 degree movements at a time and wait 3 secs for the box to catch
and settle. Do make alignment marks on the dish/pipe so that you have a
place to return should you get too far out. Make the initial in one color
and final in another. It also could be bad connections or cabling.

But the sat provider should send someone out at no charge to do all this.

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I would be interested to know what signal strength he is getting on his
setup. With most STB's, this can be obtained through some sort of
"alignment" or "system" menu. I'd be willing to bet his signal strength is
in the low 80's, if that. I can't say for certain, but you might be able to
get DirecTV to send out a "professional" to re-align the dish if your
neighbor threatens to cancel. Especially if it's a new purchase that
included installation. If it is a single satellite system, all "dish
pointing" involves is minute movements of the dish along the x and y until
signal strength improves. If it is a multi-satellite dish (oval vs. round),
then you also have a "tilt" factor involved ... which complicates matters a
bit ... but still doable with a little patience.

Cheers,

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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It was a "professionally" installed system meaning it was installed by the
mook de jour. It isn't even HD. The guy only has an SD display and he has
no idea how to make adjustments on his own. He's a very low tech guy.
Having said that I know nothing about satellite or how to adjust it so
perhaps in that respect I'm in the same category.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL



-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:41 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Was this a self-install, or did someone else install it? I've had great
results with DirecTV, but I installed it myself and am a bit of a
perfectionist. I kept fiddling with my alignment until I had 90+ on all
transponders/satellites. My signal rarely fades, although we don't
generally get the thunderstorms you folks do down there in Orlando (I lived
in Tampa for about a year).

Some other things to consider:
- Cable type used? Should be RG6, properly grounded.
- Cable run length? Mine is 50ft, but have heard of some trouble with
longer runs.
- You can buy a larger dish (22" vs 18" as I recall) that increases
reception

... and of course I'm assuming you've taken trees out of the equation ;-)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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Unfortunately living in Florida we have more weather issues to deal with.
My neighbor switched to "Direct TV" and has had nothing but service
interuptions due to even the smallest cloud. So I have a feeling quality
depends to some degree on local.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Dr Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Dish 110 transponders


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At 10:19 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>Just out of pure curiosity, what is the perceived advantage of "Dish" over
>cable, excluding those who do not have cable access and can't make the
>comparison.

In my neck of the woods (NY Cablevision) it's a no-brainer. I was a
cable subscriber since the beginning and I wouldn't have cable in my
house if I received it for free. Service was atrocious, quality was
terrible and downtime was unacceptable. Let me put it to you this
way - with Cable I was at the mercy of what was happening anywhere on
my line of the system. Every time work was done on another house my
signal was affected. I saw the cable service guys more often than I
saw my kids! And the service guys were contract nomads with
absolutely no interest in quality control. When I switched to a dish
it was like night and day. The connection is between my dishes and
the satellites, not between my house and an intricate wired
network. Yes, sunspots and the occasional heavy rain with interrupt
service for a couple of minutes (I estimate downtime to be no more
than 15 minutes per year where I live). With cable, every windstorm
or heavy rain brought an adventure and an outage - not to mention the
other service issues talked about above.

I went with DISH and have no regrets at all. Now with expanded HD
offerings it's even better. You couldn't pay me to go back to cable.


-- RAF


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At 10:46 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>Unfortunately living in Florida we have more weather issues to deal with.
>My neighbor switched to "Direct TV" and has had nothing but service
>interuptions due to even the smallest cloud. So I have a feeling quality
>depends to some degree on local.

I fully understand. If I lived in such an area I would also probably
not go with any satellite service because the weather would be much
more of a detriment than here in the northeast. You'd be at the
mercy of the cable providers but it might be the lesser (and more
controllable) of two evils.


-- RAF


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At 10:51 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>I think Charlie Ergan would pay a tidy sum for this unsolicited statement!
>He could build an entire campaign around it. Shall I broker the deal?

Absolutely, Dale! And instead of a monetary consideration all I ask
is that Sir Charles start offering The YES Network as an option to
subscribers. Echostar is now the only major provider up here that
doesn't offer YES. Even Cablevision worked out a settlement. I've
actually installed a single DirecTV set-up at ~$39/month just to
watch The Yankees and The Nets. I don't understand why Dish still
balks on this when everyone else has worked it out. When the switch
from MPEG2->4 takes place down the road a bit I'll decide whether I
commit to DISH or DirecTV equipment. Right now I get more HD
programming with DISH (and for my installation DISH is clearer than
DirecTV, but that could be a locality issue). If DISH offered YES I
could save $40/month (- the cost for YES on DISH).

Go for it, Dale!

;)


-- RAF


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