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Jason,
Interesting comment.
Even when entering the signal digitally by using DVI and HDMI (both exactly the same bandwidth on
the video part), the set has to convert that digital signal to analog to drive the tubes.
In other words, it seems that the advantage of transporting the signal digitally as it came from the
source equipment is negatively diminished by the internal conversion to analog done by the set.
On the other side, the source signal coming from a HD-STB or a DVD player would have to do a digital
to analog conversion to send the component analog version to the TV.
So any method would end up in some kind of conversion for this set, and because chip implementations
are not created equal is always better to have different methods of connectivity (in the case of
your Elite: component YPbPr, component 15 pin-D sub VGA, and HDMI, that set does not have DVI if my
memory serves me correctly). Trial and error would confirm which chip (TV or source equipment)
/wire combination is the best choice for your set.
Regarding your tweaking comment, another thing to consider is the limited controls either connection
can let you have, for example the VGA 15 pin would not allow you to control color or tint from
other than the service mode, which is a nuisance because some HD programs might benefit when
applying some minor adjustments (over the ISF calibration adjustments), so look into that factor as
well, your service provider might be inconsistent in colors/tint across the tier, and having such
controls from the remote might become more important than a pure digital connection or a VGA
connection.
Tell you Dad not to give away that set, it was the top product of Pioneer Elite before they stop
doing CRTs.
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Richard,
I believe you were interested in only FPTV not RPTV, with DVI or HDMI, I am not sure I understood
your use of the "not" in front of CRT, did you meant non CRT?
CRT FPTVs are becoming like dinosaurs, I frankly have to look carefully at the report to identify
them from the mass of non-CRT sets, all the hi-end FPTV companies like Runco, Faroudja, etc are
moving out of CRTs.
But one thing all the manufacturers have in common is that no one is manufacturing any display
device that does not have either DVI or HDMI, and in some case both, or two inputs of the same, in
addition to component analog for backward compatibility.
This means that 2004 was the end of component analog only sets, approximately 14 million sets or 23
billion dollar sales totaled the market from 1998, assuming that some of those did jump earlier to
have DVI, and assuming that many of the early panels were not capable of handling HDCP protected
content, we could estimate that about 11 million sets would suffer from the "analog hole" if it gets
implemented as the MPAA brags about it.
If you meant non-CRT FPTVs, the majority has now DVI or HDMI, in addition to analog component (YPbPr
or VGA) and VGA computer connection.
Best Regards,
Rodolfo La Maestra
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The successor to my pioneer elite - the x30 series - has DVI input. My
dad got one and we did some A/B testing - the component video was picked
as better by everyone who watched it...although that was an "out of box"
setting since I did know how to tweak much back then.
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Rodolfo,
Are there not CRT FPTV that support a DVI/HDMI input?
Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services A division of Mastertech
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Jason,
Interesting comment.
Even when entering the signal digitally by using DVI and HDMI (both exactly the same bandwidth on
the video part), the set has to convert that digital signal to analog to drive the tubes.
In other words, it seems that the advantage of transporting the signal digitally as it came from the
source equipment is negatively diminished by the internal conversion to analog done by the set.
On the other side, the source signal coming from a HD-STB or a DVD player would have to do a digital
to analog conversion to send the component analog version to the TV.
So any method would end up in some kind of conversion for this set, and because chip implementations
are not created equal is always better to have different methods of connectivity (in the case of
your Elite: component YPbPr, component 15 pin-D sub VGA, and HDMI, that set does not have DVI if my
memory serves me correctly). Trial and error would confirm which chip (TV or source equipment)
/wire combination is the best choice for your set.
Regarding your tweaking comment, another thing to consider is the limited controls either connection
can let you have, for example the VGA 15 pin would not allow you to control color or tint from
other than the service mode, which is a nuisance because some HD programs might benefit when
applying some minor adjustments (over the ISF calibration adjustments), so look into that factor as
well, your service provider might be inconsistent in colors/tint across the tier, and having such
controls from the remote might become more important than a pure digital connection or a VGA
connection.
Tell you Dad not to give away that set, it was the top product of Pioneer Elite before they stop
doing CRTs.
---------------
Richard,
I believe you were interested in only FPTV not RPTV, with DVI or HDMI, I am not sure I understood
your use of the "not" in front of CRT, did you meant non CRT?
CRT FPTVs are becoming like dinosaurs, I frankly have to look carefully at the report to identify
them from the mass of non-CRT sets, all the hi-end FPTV companies like Runco, Faroudja, etc are
moving out of CRTs.
But one thing all the manufacturers have in common is that no one is manufacturing any display
device that does not have either DVI or HDMI, and in some case both, or two inputs of the same, in
addition to component analog for backward compatibility.
This means that 2004 was the end of component analog only sets, approximately 14 million sets or 23
billion dollar sales totaled the market from 1998, assuming that some of those did jump earlier to
have DVI, and assuming that many of the early panels were not capable of handling HDCP protected
content, we could estimate that about 11 million sets would suffer from the "analog hole" if it gets
implemented as the MPAA brags about it.
If you meant non-CRT FPTVs, the majority has now DVI or HDMI, in addition to analog component (YPbPr
or VGA) and VGA computer connection.
Best Regards,
Rodolfo La Maestra
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:56 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: 1080p For The Masses per USA Today
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The successor to my pioneer elite - the x30 series - has DVI input. My
dad got one and we did some A/B testing - the component video was picked
as better by everyone who watched it...although that was an "out of box"
setting since I did know how to tweak much back then.
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:33 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: 1080p For The Masses per USA Today
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Rodolfo,
Are there not CRT FPTV that support a DVI/HDMI input?
Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services A division of Mastertech
Repair Corporation
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