Fiber

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I agree with Joseph, if you can afford the extra 5-10% material cost to run
fiber up front you can't go wrong. That said, copper still has a long way
to go and will be around for the next twenty plus years. In residential
applications and even small commercial applications there still isn't that
much need for anything more than 100mbps networks. The internet speeds are
still sluggish (in comparison to intranet speeds) at 7mbps (at best)
downloading and 756kbps on the uploading side. So we won't see fast video
downloading for a couple of more years.

It won't be until the residential market starts installing more media
servers on a regular basis will the need for gigabit home networks and then
10 gigabit networks push the copper limitations making fiber a necessity.
And by then as previously mentioned most things will be plug & play with
auto configuring and running a universal Java J2ME programming language,
well that's the speculation. Just like all equipment now uses standardized
IR codes with all discrete commands. Well, that's never going to happen but
hopefully with everything in the future being IP based and most likely
running a Java micro edition program language the ability for different
pieces of equipment to finally communicate back and forth with out the tens
and hundreds (thousands) of C++ programming hours for touch panels that only
the very wealthy can afford will be something to look forward to.

Even in the future hybrid system (copper/fiber) (fiber trunk lines between
routers and switches and copper to the equipment from the switch or router)
will satisfy most needs until most of us are long gone.

But things in the computer world tend to change exponentially so it may be
only ten years before we wished we had fiber installed. So if you can
afford it, install it, why take the chance.

------------------------------------
Vining Audio & Video
Daniel R. Vining
LLC Member
[email protected]
30 Spring Street
Danbury, CT 06810
www.viningaudio.com
------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
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Joseph Azar
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Fiber

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More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber in
homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home. In
2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually in
the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what I felt
was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I took a fiber
course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and termination. Next
week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber termination. I am sure
that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will be quite happy, and those
that did not will be swearing under their breath as they pay me to retrofit
their houses with fiber!

I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to say,
it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new revenue
streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video streams,
download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either command
revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items themselves. They
can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of revenue from decreasing
home subscribers and cable telephone competition, the BOCs are desperate to
bring revenue back up and preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth,
the giant, is seeing receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part
of something, nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed
that ATT would be rendered irrelevant?

Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!

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Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with? MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics, and did some of the
basic design for a pretty big corporate office - we had fiber to the
desktop to support some high end equipment we had, and an elaborate
system of patch panels to connect equipment and people. I was also
curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron shortwave multimode fiber. In
my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we learned that 50 micron goes
much further and tolerates attenuation better. I also went to a day long
fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it fascinating.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber
in homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home.
In
2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually
in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what
I felt was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I
took a fiber course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and
termination. Next week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber
termination. I am sure that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will
be quite happy, and those that did not will be swearing under their
breath as they pay me to retrofit their houses with fiber!

I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to
say, it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new
revenue streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video
streams, download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either
command revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items
themselves. They can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of
revenue from decreasing home subscribers and cable telephone
competition, the BOCs are desperate to bring revenue back up and
preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth, the giant, is seeing
receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part of something,
nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed that ATT
would be rendered irrelevant?

Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!

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6-12B9-9A2C83414B7F0000

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Dan Vining
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:29 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I agree with Joseph, if you can afford the extra 5-10% material cost to
> run
> fiber up front you can't go wrong. That said, copper still has a long way
> to go and will be around for the next twenty plus years. In residential
> applications and even small commercial applications there still isn't that
> much need for anything more than 100mbps networks. The internet speeds
> are
> still sluggish (in comparison to intranet speeds) at 7mbps (at best)
> downloading and 756kbps on the uploading side. So we won't see fast video
> downloading for a couple of more years.
>
> It won't be until the residential market starts installing more media
> servers on a regular basis will the need for gigabit home networks and
> then
> 10 gigabit networks push the copper limitations making fiber a necessity.

Well, if you believe SBC, that HD video over copper is just 6-12 months out.
There is no question it works. But there are huge questions of whether or
not it will scale.

>
> Even in the future hybrid system (copper/fiber) (fiber trunk lines between
> routers and switches and copper to the equipment from the switch or
> router)
> will satisfy most needs until most of us are long gone.

The copper/fiber hybrid is precisely what SBC is using for IPTV in the
Lightspeed project. Verizon opted for fiber all the way to the premesis for
their FiOS program.

Running the fiber now is sound advice, but it's not likely you'll be
lighting it up for another 10-15 yrs. You can run 10 Gbit/s over copper and
that will suffice for the foreseeable future.


Bob



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I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day event. I am not terminating at
present, just embedding it, as there is no consumer home equipment at
present, only pro and commercial. That could be used but no consumer product
has a capability to really use it especially due to only kb and low mb
internet delivery. I wish there were home audio/video/data fiber hetworking
to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems, but there is not. It is
coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24 months max. If nothing
else, the home server market for audio and video will push it hard. I have
been using the multimode fiber that is part of Commscope and Belden's
structured cable as it offers ease of installation and protection from
installation damage. There have been times I did run separate fiber I picked
up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not bundled and jacketed to
protect it as well as the home structured cable is. Multimode should do
quite well in a home as the runs are not that long, but single mode is
superior for longer runs, and is the only thing for very long runs. (I will
see if I have a website that explains single and multi mode fiber.)The
multimode connectors have been easier to install, but I should know better
what single mode connectors are available after this seminar, and how easy
they are to install. One problem with single mode is that being smaller, it
is easier to break while installing.

Of course the question is what connector to use. Home gear uses Toslink, but
that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any networking use anywhere I know
of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors for commercial fiber.
Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA, TIA, CEDIA, or any other
group I know of. I am hoping that over the next 12 months some group will
set a home standard because I do not want to have to put funky adapters on
all my future connections!


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with? MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics, and did some of the
basic design for a pretty big corporate office - we had fiber to the
desktop to support some high end equipment we had, and an elaborate
system of patch panels to connect equipment and people. I was also
curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron shortwave multimode fiber. In
my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we learned that 50 micron goes
much further and tolerates attenuation better. I also went to a day long
fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it fascinating.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Joseph Azar
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber
in homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home.
In
2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually
in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what
I felt was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I
took a fiber course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and
termination. Next week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber
termination. I am sure that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will
be quite happy, and those that did not will be swearing under their
breath as they pay me to retrofit their houses with fiber!

I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to
say, it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new
revenue streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video
streams, download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either
command revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items
themselves. They can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of
revenue from decreasing home subscribers and cable telephone
competition, the BOCs are desperate to bring revenue back up and
preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth, the giant, is seeing
receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part of something,
nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed that ATT
would be rendered irrelevant?

Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!

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Joe,

What does fiber go for $ a foot?


On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day event. I am not terminating at
> present, just embedding it, as there is no consumer home equipment at
> present, only pro and commercial. That could be used but no consumer product
> has a capability to really use it especially due to only kb and low mb
> internet delivery. I wish there were home audio/video/data fiber hetworking
> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems, but there is not. It is
> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24 months max. If nothing
> else, the home server market for audio and video will push it hard. I have
> been using the multimode fiber that is part of Commscope and Belden's
> structured cable as it offers ease of installation and protection from
> installation damage. There have been times I did run separate fiber I picked
> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not bundled and jacketed to
> protect it as well as the home structured cable is. Multimode should do
> quite well in a home as the runs are not that long, but single mode is
> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing for very long runs. (I will
> see if I have a website that explains single and multi mode fiber.)The
> multimode connectors have been easier to install, but I should know better
> what single mode connectors are available after this seminar, and how easy
> they are to install. One problem with single mode is that being smaller, it
> is easier to break while installing.
>
> Of course the question is what connector to use. Home gear uses Toslink, but
> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any networking use anywhere I know
> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors for commercial fiber.
> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA, TIA, CEDIA, or any other
> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next 12 months some group will
> set a home standard because I do not want to have to put funky adapters on
> all my future connections!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with? MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics, and did some of the
> basic design for a pretty big corporate office - we had fiber to the
> desktop to support some high end equipment we had, and an elaborate
> system of patch panels to connect equipment and people. I was also
> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron shortwave multimode fiber. In
> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we learned that 50 micron goes
> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I also went to a day long
> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it fascinating.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Joseph Azar
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber
> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home.
> In
> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually
> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what
> I felt was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I
> took a fiber course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and
> termination. Next week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber
> termination. I am sure that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will
> be quite happy, and those that did not will be swearing under their
> breath as they pay me to retrofit their houses with fiber!
>
> I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to
> say, it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new
> revenue streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video
> streams, download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either
> command revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items
> themselves. They can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of
> revenue from decreasing home subscribers and cable telephone
> competition, the BOCs are desperate to bring revenue back up and
> preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth, the giant, is seeing
> receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part of something,
> nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed that ATT
> would be rendered irrelevant?
>
> Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!
>
> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID ... D=000AEBCD
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I have not checked in a while for just fiber as I use it in the bundled
structured cable, but in that form about 50 cents/ft more for 1 pair fiber
over the cost of just 2 cat 5 and 2 RG6. Fiber does come in different
jackets for different applications, so if you do a search for fiber you will
also want to know the installation application to specify its "packaging" or
jacketing. These days there is a glut of fiber around so you should be able
to find all kinds of deals on anywhere from 2 in a jacket to many (10, 20)
in a jacket.

If I get time tomorrow I will call my contacts at Pirelli and see what they
have and its pricing.


-----Original Message-----
From: James Healy
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Joe,

What does fiber go for $ a foot?


On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day event. I am not terminating
at
> present, just embedding it, as there is no consumer home equipment at
> present, only pro and commercial. That could be used but no consumer
product
> has a capability to really use it especially due to only kb and low mb
> internet delivery. I wish there were home audio/video/data fiber
hetworking
> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems, but there is not. It is
> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24 months max. If nothing
> else, the home server market for audio and video will push it hard. I have
> been using the multimode fiber that is part of Commscope and Belden's
> structured cable as it offers ease of installation and protection from
> installation damage. There have been times I did run separate fiber I
picked
> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not bundled and jacketed to
> protect it as well as the home structured cable is. Multimode should do
> quite well in a home as the runs are not that long, but single mode is
> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing for very long runs. (I
will
> see if I have a website that explains single and multi mode fiber.)The
> multimode connectors have been easier to install, but I should know better
> what single mode connectors are available after this seminar, and how easy
> they are to install. One problem with single mode is that being smaller,
it
> is easier to break while installing.
>
> Of course the question is what connector to use. Home gear uses Toslink,
but
> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any networking use anywhere I
know
> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors for commercial fiber.
> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA, TIA, CEDIA, or any other
> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next 12 months some group will
> set a home standard because I do not want to have to put funky adapters on
> all my future connections!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with? MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics, and did some of the
> basic design for a pretty big corporate office - we had fiber to the
> desktop to support some high end equipment we had, and an elaborate
> system of patch panels to connect equipment and people. I was also
> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron shortwave multimode fiber. In
> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we learned that 50 micron goes
> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I also went to a day long
> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it fascinating.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Joseph Azar
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber
> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home.
> In
> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually
> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what
> I felt was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I
> took a fiber course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and
> termination. Next week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber
> termination. I am sure that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will
> be quite happy, and those that did not will be swearing under their
> breath as they pay me to retrofit their houses with fiber!
>
> I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to
> say, it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new
> revenue streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video
> streams, download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either
> command revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items
> themselves. They can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of
> revenue from decreasing home subscribers and cable telephone
> competition, the BOCs are desperate to bring revenue back up and
> preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth, the giant, is seeing
> receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part of something,
> nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed that ATT
> would be rendered irrelevant?
>
> Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!
>
> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID ... D=000AEBCD
> -72E
> 6-12B9-9A2C83414B7F0000
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You may also want to call a local supplier such as Graybar:
http://www.graybar.com. I have included a link to one of their pages listing
bulk fiber http://catalog.graybar.com/servlet/BugsEye. Thee are many pages
of fiber in the catalog, but a zip cord type with 2-4 fiber is all you
really need in a home if you are running through walls and such. Just follow
the guidelines on pulling and bending, which the distributor will give you
for the type you buy.





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From: James Healy
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Fiber

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Joe,

What does fiber go for $ a foot?


On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day event. I am not terminating
at
> present, just embedding it, as there is no consumer home equipment at
> present, only pro and commercial. That could be used but no consumer
product
> has a capability to really use it especially due to only kb and low mb
> internet delivery. I wish there were home audio/video/data fiber
hetworking
> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems, but there is not. It is
> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24 months max. If nothing
> else, the home server market for audio and video will push it hard. I have
> been using the multimode fiber that is part of Commscope and Belden's
> structured cable as it offers ease of installation and protection from
> installation damage. There have been times I did run separate fiber I
picked
> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not bundled and jacketed to
> protect it as well as the home structured cable is. Multimode should do
> quite well in a home as the runs are not that long, but single mode is
> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing for very long runs. (I
will
> see if I have a website that explains single and multi mode fiber.)The
> multimode connectors have been easier to install, but I should know better
> what single mode connectors are available after this seminar, and how easy
> they are to install. One problem with single mode is that being smaller,
it
> is easier to break while installing.
>
> Of course the question is what connector to use. Home gear uses Toslink,
but
> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any networking use anywhere I
know
> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors for commercial fiber.
> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA, TIA, CEDIA, or any other
> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next 12 months some group will
> set a home standard because I do not want to have to put funky adapters on
> all my future connections!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with? MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics, and did some of the
> basic design for a pretty big corporate office - we had fiber to the
> desktop to support some high end equipment we had, and an elaborate
> system of patch panels to connect equipment and people. I was also
> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron shortwave multimode fiber. In
> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we learned that 50 micron goes
> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I also went to a day long
> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it fascinating.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Joseph Azar
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber
> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home.
> In
> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually
> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what
> I felt was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I
> took a fiber course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and
> termination. Next week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber
> termination. I am sure that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will
> be quite happy, and those that did not will be swearing under their
> breath as they pay me to retrofit their houses with fiber!
>
> I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to
> say, it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new
> revenue streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video
> streams, download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either
> command revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items
> themselves. They can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of
> revenue from decreasing home subscribers and cable telephone
> competition, the BOCs are desperate to bring revenue back up and
> preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth, the giant, is seeing
> receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part of something,
> nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed that ATT
> would be rendered irrelevant?
>
> Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!
>
> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID ... D=000AEBCD
> -72E
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Joe,

Any idea what kind I should purchase when I get start pulling wire in my
home?

On 8/18/05 10:34 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> I have not checked in a while for just fiber as I use it in the bundled
> structured cable, but in that form about 50 cents/ft more for 1 pair fiber
> over the cost of just 2 cat 5 and 2 RG6. Fiber does come in different
> jackets for different applications, so if you do a search for fiber you will
> also want to know the installation application to specify its "packaging" or
> jacketing. These days there is a glut of fiber around so you should be able
> to find all kinds of deals on anywhere from 2 in a jacket to many (10, 20)
> in a jacket.
>
> If I get time tomorrow I will call my contacts at Pirelli and see what they
> have and its pricing.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Healy
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Joe,
>
> What does fiber go for $ a foot?
>
>
> On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day event. I am not terminating
> at
>> present, just embedding it, as there is no consumer home equipment at
>> present, only pro and commercial. That could be used but no consumer
> product
>> has a capability to really use it especially due to only kb and low mb
>> internet delivery. I wish there were home audio/video/data fiber
> hetworking
>> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems, but there is not. It is
>> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24 months max. If nothing
>> else, the home server market for audio and video will push it hard. I have
>> been using the multimode fiber that is part of Commscope and Belden's
>> structured cable as it offers ease of installation and protection from
>> installation damage. There have been times I did run separate fiber I
> picked
>> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not bundled and jacketed to
>> protect it as well as the home structured cable is. Multimode should do
>> quite well in a home as the runs are not that long, but single mode is
>> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing for very long runs. (I
> will
>> see if I have a website that explains single and multi mode fiber.)The
>> multimode connectors have been easier to install, but I should know better
>> what single mode connectors are available after this seminar, and how easy
>> they are to install. One problem with single mode is that being smaller,
> it
>> is easier to break while installing.
>>
>> Of course the question is what connector to use. Home gear uses Toslink,
> but
>> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any networking use anywhere I
> know
>> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors for commercial fiber.
>> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA, TIA, CEDIA, or any other
>> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next 12 months some group will
>> set a home standard because I do not want to have to put funky adapters on
>> all my future connections!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Fiber
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with? MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
>> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics, and did some of the
>> basic design for a pretty big corporate office - we had fiber to the
>> desktop to support some high end equipment we had, and an elaborate
>> system of patch panels to connect equipment and people. I was also
>> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron shortwave multimode fiber. In
>> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we learned that 50 micron goes
>> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I also went to a day long
>> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it fascinating.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> Of Joseph Azar
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Fiber
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber
>> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home.
>> In
>> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually
>> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what
>> I felt was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I
>> took a fiber course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and
>> termination. Next week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber
>> termination. I am sure that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will
>> be quite happy, and those that did not will be swearing under their
>> breath as they pay me to retrofit their houses with fiber!
>>
>> I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to
>> say, it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new
>> revenue streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video
>> streams, download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either
>> command revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items
>> themselves. They can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of
>> revenue from decreasing home subscribers and cable telephone
>> competition, the BOCs are desperate to bring revenue back up and
>> preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth, the giant, is seeing
>> receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part of something,
>> nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed that ATT
>> would be rendered irrelevant?
>>
>> Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!
>>
>> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID ... D=000AEBCD
>> -72E
>> 6-12B9-9A2C83414B7F0000
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Sent my question before receiving this reply, thanks


On 8/18/05 10:57 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> You may also want to call a local supplier such as Graybar:
> http://www.graybar.com. I have included a link to one of their pages listing
> bulk fiber http://catalog.graybar.com/servlet/BugsEye. Thee are many pages
> of fiber in the catalog, but a zip cord type with 2-4 fiber is all you
> really need in a home if you are running through walls and such. Just follow
> the guidelines on pulling and bending, which the distributor will give you
> for the type you buy.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Healy
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Joe,
>
> What does fiber go for $ a foot?
>
>
> On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day event. I am not terminating
> at
>> present, just embedding it, as there is no consumer home equipment at
>> present, only pro and commercial. That could be used but no consumer
> product
>> has a capability to really use it especially due to only kb and low mb
>> internet delivery. I wish there were home audio/video/data fiber
> hetworking
>> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems, but there is not. It is
>> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24 months max. If nothing
>> else, the home server market for audio and video will push it hard. I have
>> been using the multimode fiber that is part of Commscope and Belden's
>> structured cable as it offers ease of installation and protection from
>> installation damage. There have been times I did run separate fiber I
> picked
>> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not bundled and jacketed to
>> protect it as well as the home structured cable is. Multimode should do
>> quite well in a home as the runs are not that long, but single mode is
>> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing for very long runs. (I
> will
>> see if I have a website that explains single and multi mode fiber.)The
>> multimode connectors have been easier to install, but I should know better
>> what single mode connectors are available after this seminar, and how easy
>> they are to install. One problem with single mode is that being smaller,
> it
>> is easier to break while installing.
>>
>> Of course the question is what connector to use. Home gear uses Toslink,
> but
>> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any networking use anywhere I
> know
>> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors for commercial fiber.
>> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA, TIA, CEDIA, or any other
>> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next 12 months some group will
>> set a home standard because I do not want to have to put funky adapters on
>> all my future connections!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Fiber
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with? MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
>> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics, and did some of the
>> basic design for a pretty big corporate office - we had fiber to the
>> desktop to support some high end equipment we had, and an elaborate
>> system of patch panels to connect equipment and people. I was also
>> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron shortwave multimode fiber. In
>> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we learned that 50 micron goes
>> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I also went to a day long
>> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it fascinating.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> Of Joseph Azar
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Fiber
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber
>> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home.
>> In
>> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually
>> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what
>> I felt was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I
>> took a fiber course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and
>> termination. Next week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber
>> termination. I am sure that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will
>> be quite happy, and those that did not will be swearing under their
>> breath as they pay me to retrofit their houses with fiber!
>>
>> I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to
>> say, it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new
>> revenue streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video
>> streams, download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either
>> command revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items
>> themselves. They can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of
>> revenue from decreasing home subscribers and cable telephone
>> competition, the BOCs are desperate to bring revenue back up and
>> preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth, the giant, is seeing
>> receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part of something,
>> nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed that ATT
>> would be rendered irrelevant?
>>
>> Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!
>>
>> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID ... D=000AEBCD
>> -72E
>> 6-12B9-9A2C83414B7F0000
>>
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I highly recommend the bundled structured cable I mentioned in previous
posting. You should be able to get it at a distributor but, if not, I can
send some to you. There are also companies that will wrap a bundle to your
specs. At present, it would be desirable to have 3 Cat 5 4pr cables in a
bundle rather than the 2 that normally come in it. One for basic phone, one
for networking, and one for dedicated Tivo/video type networks. 4 may even
be better for any automation desired, or future something we do not know of
yet. Of course, I do believe that fiber with its bandwidth and multiplex
capability will become an adjunct to copper, carrying other data and/or
replacing copper some day.

Check Coomscope and Belden as 2 sulliers of it. Ask your local wire
distributor about a custom bundle, or ask me if you cannot get any local
help.



-----Original Message-----
From: James Healy
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:02 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Sent my question before receiving this reply, thanks


On 8/18/05 10:57 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> You may also want to call a local supplier such as Graybar:
> http://www.graybar.com. I have included a link to one of their pages
listing
> bulk fiber http://catalog.graybar.com/servlet/BugsEye. Thee are many pages
> of fiber in the catalog, but a zip cord type with 2-4 fiber is all you
> really need in a home if you are running through walls and such. Just
follow
> the guidelines on pulling and bending, which the distributor will give you
> for the type you buy.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Healy
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Joe,
>
> What does fiber go for $ a foot?
>
>
> On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day event. I am not terminating
> at
>> present, just embedding it, as there is no consumer home equipment at
>> present, only pro and commercial. That could be used but no consumer
> product
>> has a capability to really use it especially due to only kb and low mb
>> internet delivery. I wish there were home audio/video/data fiber
> hetworking
>> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems, but there is not. It is
>> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24 months max. If nothing
>> else, the home server market for audio and video will push it hard. I
have
>> been using the multimode fiber that is part of Commscope and Belden's
>> structured cable as it offers ease of installation and protection from
>> installation damage. There have been times I did run separate fiber I
> picked
>> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not bundled and jacketed to
>> protect it as well as the home structured cable is. Multimode should do
>> quite well in a home as the runs are not that long, but single mode is
>> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing for very long runs. (I
> will
>> see if I have a website that explains single and multi mode fiber.)The
>> multimode connectors have been easier to install, but I should know
better
>> what single mode connectors are available after this seminar, and how
easy
>> they are to install. One problem with single mode is that being smaller,
> it
>> is easier to break while installing.
>>
>> Of course the question is what connector to use. Home gear uses Toslink,
> but
>> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any networking use anywhere I
> know
>> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors for commercial fiber.
>> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA, TIA, CEDIA, or any
other
>> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next 12 months some group will
>> set a home standard because I do not want to have to put funky adapters
on
>> all my future connections!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Fiber
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with? MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
>> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics, and did some of the
>> basic design for a pretty big corporate office - we had fiber to the
>> desktop to support some high end equipment we had, and an elaborate
>> system of patch panels to connect equipment and people. I was also
>> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron shortwave multimode fiber. In
>> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we learned that 50 micron goes
>> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I also went to a day long
>> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it fascinating.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> Of Joseph Azar
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Fiber
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I have been embedding fiber
>> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of FTH (fiber to the home.
>> In
>> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already were doing FTH or actually
>> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it best to give clients what
>> I felt was the future channel for technology delivery. Back in 2001 I
>> took a fiber course to make sure I knew about distribution, testing and
>> termination. Next week I send my whole staff to a seminar on fiber
>> termination. I am sure that those who chose to spend $500-900 extra will
>> be quite happy, and those that did not will be swearing under their
>> breath as they pay me to retrofit their houses with fiber!
>>
>> I will try to report any progress in FTH and FIH at CEDIA. Needless to
>> say, it is coming as the telecommunication companies are looking for new
>> revenue streams. If they have the ability to send multiple HD video
>> streams, download CDs in 15 sec, or DVDs in 2-3 minutes, they can either
>> command revenue from line rental, or be the source for those items
>> themselves. They can do what i-tunes is now doing. With the loss of
>> revenue from decreasing home subscribers and cable telephone
>> competition, the BOCs are desperate to bring revenue back up and
>> preserve their place in the industry. Bellsouth, the giant, is seeing
>> receding revenue. ATT, once a giant, is now just part of something,
>> nothing special. Who, 20 years ago, would have ever guessed that ATT
>> would be rendered irrelevant?
>>
>> Happy reading, and cable those houses with fiber boys!
>>
>> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID ... D=000AEBCD
>> -72E
>> 6-12B9-9A2C83414B7F0000
>>
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Are there ways to convert signals going over cat and
coax to fiber? Would it be cost effective?

--- Joseph Azar <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I highly recommend the bundled structured cable I
> mentioned in previous
> posting. You should be able to get it at a
> distributor but, if not, I can
> send some to you. There are also companies that will
> wrap a bundle to your
> specs. At present, it would be desirable to have 3
> Cat 5 4pr cables in a
> bundle rather than the 2 that normally come in it.
> One for basic phone, one
> for networking, and one for dedicated Tivo/video
> type networks. 4 may even
> be better for any automation desired, or future
> something we do not know of
> yet. Of course, I do believe that fiber with its
> bandwidth and multiplex
> capability will become an adjunct to copper,
> carrying other data and/or
> replacing copper some day.
>
> Check Coomscope and Belden as 2 sulliers of it. Ask
> your local wire
> distributor about a custom bundle, or ask me if you
> cannot get any local
> help.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Healy
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:02 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Sent my question before receiving this reply, thanks
>
>
> On 8/18/05 10:57 PM, "Joseph Azar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > You may also want to call a local supplier such as
> Graybar:
> > http://www.graybar.com. I have included a link to
> one of their pages
> listing
> > bulk fiber
> http://catalog.graybar.com/servlet/BugsEye. Thee are
> many pages
> > of fiber in the catalog, but a zip cord type with
> 2-4 fiber is all you
> > really need in a home if you are running through
> walls and such. Just
> follow
> > the guidelines on pulling and bending, which the
> distributor will give you
> > for the type you buy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Healy
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
> > To: HDTV Magazine
> > Subject: Re: Fiber
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > What does fiber go for $ a foot?
> >
> >
> > On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day
> event. I am not terminating
> > at
> >> present, just embedding it, as there is no
> consumer home equipment at
> >> present, only pro and commercial. That could be
> used but no consumer
> > product
> >> has a capability to really use it especially due
> to only kb and low mb
> >> internet delivery. I wish there were home
> audio/video/data fiber
> > hetworking
> >> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems,
> but there is not. It is
> >> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24
> months max. If nothing
> >> else, the home server market for audio and video
> will push it hard. I
> have
> >> been using the multimode fiber that is part of
> Commscope and Belden's
> >> structured cable as it offers ease of
> installation and protection from
> >> installation damage. There have been times I did
> run separate fiber I
> > picked
> >> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not
> bundled and jacketed to
> >> protect it as well as the home structured cable
> is. Multimode should do
> >> quite well in a home as the runs are not that
> long, but single mode is
> >> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing
> for very long runs. (I
> > will
> >> see if I have a website that explains single and
> multi mode fiber.)The
> >> multimode connectors have been easier to install,
> but I should know
> better
> >> what single mode connectors are available after
> this seminar, and how
> easy
> >> they are to install. One problem with single mode
> is that being smaller,
> > it
> >> is easier to break while installing.
> >>
> >> Of course the question is what connector to use.
> Home gear uses Toslink,
> > but
> >> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any
> networking use anywhere I
> > know
> >> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors
> for commercial fiber.
> >> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA,
> TIA, CEDIA, or any
> other
> >> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next
> 12 months some group will
> >> set a home standard because I do not want to have
> to put funky adapters
> on
> >> all my future connections!
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Re: Fiber
> >>
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with?
> MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
> >> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics,
> and did some of the
> >> basic design for a pretty big corporate office -
> we had fiber to the
> >> desktop to support some high end equipment we
> had, and an elaborate
> >> system of patch panels to connect equipment and
> people. I was also
> >> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron
> shortwave multimode fiber. In
> >> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we
> learned that 50 micron goes
> >> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I
> also went to a day long
> >> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it
> fascinating.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf
> >> Of Joseph Azar
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Fiber
> >>
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I
> have been embedding fiber
> >> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of
> FTH (fiber to the home.
> >> In
> >> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already
> were doing FTH or actually
> >> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it
> best
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There are converters. Are they cost effective now? No, but they are getting
that way. I do expect to see something by CES that should start the fiber in
the home movement. There have been units for commercial for a while and the
price keeps dropping.



-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Yastrov
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:38 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Are there ways to convert signals going over cat and
coax to fiber? Would it be cost effective?

--- Joseph Azar <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I highly recommend the bundled structured cable I
> mentioned in previous
> posting. You should be able to get it at a
> distributor but, if not, I can
> send some to you. There are also companies that will
> wrap a bundle to your
> specs. At present, it would be desirable to have 3
> Cat 5 4pr cables in a
> bundle rather than the 2 that normally come in it.
> One for basic phone, one
> for networking, and one for dedicated Tivo/video
> type networks. 4 may even
> be better for any automation desired, or future
> something we do not know of
> yet. Of course, I do believe that fiber with its
> bandwidth and multiplex
> capability will become an adjunct to copper,
> carrying other data and/or
> replacing copper some day.
>
> Check Coomscope and Belden as 2 sulliers of it. Ask
> your local wire
> distributor about a custom bundle, or ask me if you
> cannot get any local
> help.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Healy
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:02 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Sent my question before receiving this reply, thanks
>
>
> On 8/18/05 10:57 PM, "Joseph Azar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > You may also want to call a local supplier such as
> Graybar:
> > http://www.graybar.com. I have included a link to
> one of their pages
> listing
> > bulk fiber
> http://catalog.graybar.com/servlet/BugsEye. Thee are
> many pages
> > of fiber in the catalog, but a zip cord type with
> 2-4 fiber is all you
> > really need in a home if you are running through
> walls and such. Just
> follow
> > the guidelines on pulling and bending, which the
> distributor will give you
> > for the type you buy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Healy
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
> > To: HDTV Magazine
> > Subject: Re: Fiber
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > What does fiber go for $ a foot?
> >
> >
> > On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day
> event. I am not terminating
> > at
> >> present, just embedding it, as there is no
> consumer home equipment at
> >> present, only pro and commercial. That could be
> used but no consumer
> > product
> >> has a capability to really use it especially due
> to only kb and low mb
> >> internet delivery. I wish there were home
> audio/video/data fiber
> > hetworking
> >> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems,
> but there is not. It is
> >> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24
> months max. If nothing
> >> else, the home server market for audio and video
> will push it hard. I
> have
> >> been using the multimode fiber that is part of
> Commscope and Belden's
> >> structured cable as it offers ease of
> installation and protection from
> >> installation damage. There have been times I did
> run separate fiber I
> > picked
> >> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not
> bundled and jacketed to
> >> protect it as well as the home structured cable
> is. Multimode should do
> >> quite well in a home as the runs are not that
> long, but single mode is
> >> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing
> for very long runs. (I
> > will
> >> see if I have a website that explains single and
> multi mode fiber.)The
> >> multimode connectors have been easier to install,
> but I should know
> better
> >> what single mode connectors are available after
> this seminar, and how
> easy
> >> they are to install. One problem with single mode
> is that being smaller,
> > it
> >> is easier to break while installing.
> >>
> >> Of course the question is what connector to use.
> Home gear uses Toslink,
> > but
> >> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any
> networking use anywhere I
> > know
> >> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors
> for commercial fiber.
> >> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA,
> TIA, CEDIA, or any
> other
> >> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next
> 12 months some group will
> >> set a home standard because I do not want to have
> to put funky adapters
> on
> >> all my future connections!
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Re: Fiber
> >>
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with?
> MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
> >> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics,
> and did some of the
> >> basic design for a pretty big corporate office -
> we had fiber to the
> >> desktop to support some high end equipment we
> had, and an elaborate
> >> system of patch panels to connect equipment and
> people. I was also
> >> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron
> shortwave multimode fiber. In
> >> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we
> learned that 50 micron goes
> >> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I
> also went to a day long
> >> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it
> fascinating.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf
> >> Of Joseph Azar
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Fiber
> >>
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I
> have been embedding fiber
> >> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of
> FTH (fiber to the home.
> >> In
> >> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already
> were doing FTH or actually
> >> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it
> best
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There are 'media interface adapters' that do this for a couple hundred
dollars. They are not universal and the ones I've used were for Gigabit
Ethernet and Fibre Channel. It can be done, and once fiber to the home
is really here, I'm sure people will be marketing them. Copper can
easily handle 400MB/sec (that's 4Gb, or 4000 megabit) today, so I don't
think speed is really the issue - it's more about distance, attenuation,
and EMI resistance.

Jason Burroughs


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Perry Yastrov
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:38 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Are there ways to convert signals going over cat and
coax to fiber? Would it be cost effective?

--- Joseph Azar <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I highly recommend the bundled structured cable I
> mentioned in previous
> posting. You should be able to get it at a
> distributor but, if not, I can
> send some to you. There are also companies that will
> wrap a bundle to your
> specs. At present, it would be desirable to have 3
> Cat 5 4pr cables in a
> bundle rather than the 2 that normally come in it.
> One for basic phone, one
> for networking, and one for dedicated Tivo/video
> type networks. 4 may even
> be better for any automation desired, or future
> something we do not know of
> yet. Of course, I do believe that fiber with its
> bandwidth and multiplex
> capability will become an adjunct to copper,
> carrying other data and/or
> replacing copper some day.
>
> Check Coomscope and Belden as 2 sulliers of it. Ask
> your local wire
> distributor about a custom bundle, or ask me if you
> cannot get any local
> help.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Healy
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:02 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Sent my question before receiving this reply, thanks
>
>
> On 8/18/05 10:57 PM, "Joseph Azar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > You may also want to call a local supplier such as
> Graybar:
> > http://www.graybar.com. I have included a link to
> one of their pages
> listing
> > bulk fiber
> http://catalog.graybar.com/servlet/BugsEye. Thee are
> many pages
> > of fiber in the catalog, but a zip cord type with
> 2-4 fiber is all you
> > really need in a home if you are running through
> walls and such. Just
> follow
> > the guidelines on pulling and bending, which the
> distributor will give you
> > for the type you buy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Healy
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
> > To: HDTV Magazine
> > Subject: Re: Fiber
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > What does fiber go for $ a foot?
> >
> >
> > On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day
> event. I am not terminating
> > at
> >> present, just embedding it, as there is no
> consumer home equipment at
> >> present, only pro and commercial. That could be
> used but no consumer
> > product
> >> has a capability to really use it especially due
> to only kb and low mb
> >> internet delivery. I wish there were home
> audio/video/data fiber
> > hetworking
> >> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems,
> but there is not. It is
> >> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24
> months max. If nothing
> >> else, the home server market for audio and video
> will push it hard. I
> have
> >> been using the multimode fiber that is part of
> Commscope and Belden's
> >> structured cable as it offers ease of
> installation and protection from
> >> installation damage. There have been times I did
> run separate fiber I
> > picked
> >> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not
> bundled and jacketed to
> >> protect it as well as the home structured cable
> is. Multimode should do
> >> quite well in a home as the runs are not that
> long, but single mode is
> >> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing
> for very long runs. (I
> > will
> >> see if I have a website that explains single and
> multi mode fiber.)The
> >> multimode connectors have been easier to install,
> but I should know
> better
> >> what single mode connectors are available after
> this seminar, and how
> easy
> >> they are to install. One problem with single mode
> is that being smaller,
> > it
> >> is easier to break while installing.
> >>
> >> Of course the question is what connector to use.
> Home gear uses Toslink,
> > but
> >> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any
> networking use anywhere I
> > know
> >> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors
> for commercial fiber.
> >> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA,
> TIA, CEDIA, or any
> other
> >> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next
> 12 months some group will
> >> set a home standard because I do not want to have
> to put funky adapters
> on
> >> all my future connections!
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Re: Fiber
> >>
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with?
> MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
> >> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics,
> and did some of the
> >> basic design for a pretty big corporate office -
> we had fiber to the
> >> desktop to support some high end equipment we
> had, and an elaborate
> >> system of patch panels to connect equipment and
> people. I was also
> >> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron
> shortwave multimode fiber. In
> >> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we
> learned that 50 micron goes
> >> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I
> also went to a day long
> >> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it
> fascinating.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf
> >> Of Joseph Azar
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Fiber
> >>
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I
> have been embedding fiber
> >> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of
> FTH (fiber to the home.
> >> In
> >> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already
> were doing FTH or actually
> >> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it
> best
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Yes, but not the easy adaptation I would expect for home. If it is to be
used in home, it needs to be plug and play for installers and home users to
use without lots of calls to the help line. There will need to be multiplex
units to convert analog to digital on dedicated frequencies, or into digital
optical Ethernet streams for transmission around the house. Then you will
see fiber in the home take off.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:43 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

There are 'media interface adapters' that do this for a couple hundred
dollars. They are not universal and the ones I've used were for Gigabit
Ethernet and Fibre Channel. It can be done, and once fiber to the home
is really here, I'm sure people will be marketing them. Copper can
easily handle 400MB/sec (that's 4Gb, or 4000 megabit) today, so I don't
think speed is really the issue - it's more about distance, attenuation,
and EMI resistance.

Jason Burroughs


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Perry Yastrov
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:38 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Fiber

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Are there ways to convert signals going over cat and
coax to fiber? Would it be cost effective?

--- Joseph Azar <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I highly recommend the bundled structured cable I
> mentioned in previous
> posting. You should be able to get it at a
> distributor but, if not, I can
> send some to you. There are also companies that will
> wrap a bundle to your
> specs. At present, it would be desirable to have 3
> Cat 5 4pr cables in a
> bundle rather than the 2 that normally come in it.
> One for basic phone, one
> for networking, and one for dedicated Tivo/video
> type networks. 4 may even
> be better for any automation desired, or future
> something we do not know of
> yet. Of course, I do believe that fiber with its
> bandwidth and multiplex
> capability will become an adjunct to copper,
> carrying other data and/or
> replacing copper some day.
>
> Check Coomscope and Belden as 2 sulliers of it. Ask
> your local wire
> distributor about a custom bundle, or ask me if you
> cannot get any local
> help.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Healy
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:02 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Fiber
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Sent my question before receiving this reply, thanks
>
>
> On 8/18/05 10:57 PM, "Joseph Azar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > You may also want to call a local supplier such as
> Graybar:
> > http://www.graybar.com. I have included a link to
> one of their pages
> listing
> > bulk fiber
> http://catalog.graybar.com/servlet/BugsEye. Thee are
> many pages
> > of fiber in the catalog, but a zip cord type with
> 2-4 fiber is all you
> > really need in a home if you are running through
> walls and such. Just
> follow
> > the guidelines on pulling and bending, which the
> distributor will give you
> > for the type you buy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Healy
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:17 PM
> > To: HDTV Magazine
> > Subject: Re: Fiber
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > What does fiber go for $ a foot?
> >
> >
> > On 8/17/05 11:30 PM, "Joseph Azar"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I attended the Light Brigades course, a 3 day
> event. I am not terminating
> > at
> >> present, just embedding it, as there is no
> consumer home equipment at
> >> present, only pro and commercial. That could be
> used but no consumer
> > product
> >> has a capability to really use it especially due
> to only kb and low mb
> >> internet delivery. I wish there were home
> audio/video/data fiber
> > hetworking
> >> to get rid of ground, surge and noise problems,
> but there is not. It is
> >> coming, and I believe it will be no more than 24
> months max. If nothing
> >> else, the home server market for audio and video
> will push it hard. I
> have
> >> been using the multimode fiber that is part of
> Commscope and Belden's
> >> structured cable as it offers ease of
> installation and protection from
> >> installation damage. There have been times I did
> run separate fiber I
> > picked
> >> up at Pirelli (15 miles from me), but it is not
> bundled and jacketed to
> >> protect it as well as the home structured cable
> is. Multimode should do
> >> quite well in a home as the runs are not that
> long, but single mode is
> >> superior for longer runs, and is the only thing
> for very long runs. (I
> > will
> >> see if I have a website that explains single and
> multi mode fiber.)The
> >> multimode connectors have been easier to install,
> but I should know
> better
> >> what single mode connectors are available after
> this seminar, and how
> easy
> >> they are to install. One problem with single mode
> is that being smaller,
> > it
> >> is easier to break while installing.
> >>
> >> Of course the question is what connector to use.
> Home gear uses Toslink,
> > but
> >> that is not for 62.5 fiber, nor is it in any
> networking use anywhere I
> > know
> >> of. SC, ST are the original, primary connectors
> for commercial fiber.
> >> Unfortunately there is no home standard from CEA,
> TIA, CEDIA, or any
> other
> >> group I know of. I am hoping that over the next
> 12 months some group will
> >> set a home standard because I do not want to have
> to put funky adapters
> on
> >> all my future connections!
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:33 PM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Re: Fiber
> >>
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> Joseph, what are you terminating those ends with?
> MTRJ, SC, LC...? I've
> >> had quite a bit of experience with fiber optics,
> and did some of the
> >> basic design for a pretty big corporate office -
> we had fiber to the
> >> desktop to support some high end equipment we
> had, and an elaborate
> >> system of patch panels to connect equipment and
> people. I was also
> >> curious if you're using 62.5 or 50 micron
> shortwave multimode fiber. In
> >> my industry, a lot of us used 62.5 until we
> learned that 50 micron goes
> >> much further and tolerates attenuation better. I
> also went to a day long
> >> fiber optic class like you mentioned and found it
> fascinating.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf
> >> Of Joseph Azar
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:37 PM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Fiber
> >>
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> >> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I
> have been embedding fiber
> >> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of
> FTH (fiber to the home.
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> >> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already
> were doing FTH or actually
> >> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it
> best
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I'd bury it in the walls, but the interconnects and hardware availability
really don't make fiber cost effective for the near term. There just isn't
an application that calls for it.

I imagine if VOD really takes hold and the RBOC/cable war starts picking up
steam, then you might see fiber to the home become more common. Downloading
HD video would then become viable. Unless/until that happens, I don't see
the need. The internet backbone can't support massive bandwidth to the home
on any large scale at this time. Price per port for 10 Gb/s hardware still
needs to fall substantially before another cycle of upgrades will happen on
the carrier level.

Existing copper technologies will support 25-30 Mbps at reasonable
distances(3k-4k feet) and it scales fairly well for residential rollouts.

Bob

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> Are there ways to convert signals going over cat and
> coax to fiber? Would it be cost effective?
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> > >> More info on fiber. As I mentioned earlier, I
> > have been embedding fiber
> > >> in homes for a few years now in anticipation of
> > FTH (fiber to the home.
> > >> In
> > >> 2001-02 I had word of some areas that already
> > were doing FTH or actually
> > >> in the home. As cheap as fiber was, I felt it
> > best
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A little primer on fiber if I may.

Single mode fiber has an 8 micron core with a 125 micron cladding (8/125).

Multi-mode comes in two flavors of glass, 62.5/125 and 50/125. The latest
twist is laser optimized 50 micron fiber. Laser optimized 50 um fiber can
support 10 Gigabit transmission up to a distance of 550 meters.

There is also plastic fiber. You may find this in some of your older
Toslink cables as one example. Plastic fiber is very short reach due to
higher losses and low bandwidth.

Light enters the fiber core in the area call the cone of acceptance. MM
fiber has a large cone of acceptance. Light (photons) travel down the fiber
core in what is called a mode. Multi-mode fiber gets its name from the fact
that (due to the larger core size), there are multiple modes or pathways
through the core. This is the reason that multimode fiber is a short
distance fiber. The pulse of light begins to spread. This spreading of the
light or modal dispersion degrades the original signal pulse. Too much
degradation and the receiver cannot differentiate whether the original pulse
was a 1 or a 0.

The single-mode core is so small that there is only one mode or pathway for
the photons to travel. SM also has a small cone of acceptance. Because the
core is so small, it requires an intense highly focused bean to energize the
fiber core. This is why single mode requires laser based transmission
systems. SM is "long haul" fiber because it does not suffer from modal
dispersion. In the case of SM, the signal simply gets to weak to be used
versus the pulse distortion that hampers MM.

Fiber optic cable is rated by bandwidth ratings of MHz/Km.


Single mode fiber is not any more fragile during installation than 62.5.
Fiber cables actually have a higher pulling strength than does copper.
During installation, Cat 3 - 6 cables are not to exceed 25 lbs of pulling
force. When exceeded, the cable can stretch. This moves the pairs closer
together and increases cross-talk components at higher frequencies. The same
is true if you exceed the bend radius of the cable.

62.5 fiber is optimized for LED based systems. It typically has dual
operating windows at 850 and 1300 nanometers.




As far as the standards covering residential cabling:
EIA/TIA 570-B is the Residential Cabling Standard.

The following is an excerpt from the standard covering recommended cable
types:

3.2.2 Grades of Residential Cabling.


A grading system is established in this Standard based upon voice, data and
video services that are expected to be supported within each single-dwelling
residence and to assist in the selection of the cabling.

NOTE - Some cabled locations may only have one cable and one
outlet/connector installed such as for a phone that will hang on the wall.
(The standard would then have you refer to figure 10.)

3.2.2.1 Grade 1

For each cabled location, grade 1 provides a generic cabling system that
meets the minimum requirements for basic telecommunications services. As an
example, this grade provides for telephone, satellite, community antenna
television (CATV) and data services.

Grade 1 specifies twisted-pair cable and coaxial cable placed in a star
topology. Grade 1 cabling requirements consist of a minimum of one 4-pair
UTP cable that meets or exceeds the requirements for category 5e, a minimum
of one 75-ohm coaxial cable, and their respective connectors at each
telecommunications outlet and the Distribution Device (DD). Installation of
category 6 cable in place of category 5e cable is recommended.

3.2.2.2 Grade 2

For each cabled location, grade 2 provides a generic cabling system that
meets the minimum requirements for basic and advanced telecommunications
services such as high-speed internet and in-home generated video. This grade
provides for both current and developing telecommunications services. Grade
2 specifies twisted-pair cable, coaxial cable, and optionally optical fiber
cable, all placed in a star topology. Grade 2 cabling minimum requirements
consist of two 4-pair UTP cables and associated connectors that meet or
exceed the requirements for category 5e cabling; two 75-ohm coaxial and
associated connectors at each telecommunications outlet and the DD;
optionally, 2-fiber optical fiber cabling. Installation of category 6
cabling in place of category 5e cabling is recommended.

Hope this helps a little.

Dave Bowling
Normal, Il



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