FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV

Started by Sep 20, 2005 6 posts
Read-only archive
#2
----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

That's the flavor of the week for whole house distribution(ie. home media
center). Not directly competing with HDMI.

IP over coax, MoCA(multi-media over coax), 802.11g over coax, WiMAX, UWB
wireless, 802.11n, Homeplug PNA, Phoneline, etc. Pick your poison.

The problem is none of these ideas seem to garner a consensus within the
industry. Various companies get behind different specs in order to position
themselves for any one of them that might float to the top.

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> M. Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> A competitor to HDMI?
>
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/sh ... =171000113
>
>
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>
> To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same
> day) send an email to:
> [email protected]


To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same day) send an email to:
[email protected]
#3
----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Doesn't seem like much competition: 400Mbps (Firewire) vs. 5.2 Gbps (HDMI)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon
HDTV Magazine



|---------+--------------------------------->
| | "Bob Mankin" |
| | <[email protected]> |
| | Sent by: "HDTV |
| | Magazine" |
| | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
| | vehdtv.com> |
| | |
| | |
| | 09/20/2005 08:08 PM |
| | Please respond to |
| | "HDTV Magazine" |
| | |
|---------+--------------------------------->
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| |
| To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]> |
| cc: |
| Subject: Re: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV |
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|




----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

That's the flavor of the week for whole house distribution(ie. home media
center). Not directly competing with HDMI.

IP over coax, MoCA(multi-media over coax), 802.11g over coax, WiMAX, UWB
wireless, 802.11n, Homeplug PNA, Phoneline, etc. Pick your poison.

The problem is none of these ideas seem to garner a consensus within the
industry. Various companies get behind different specs in order to position
themselves for any one of them that might float to the top.

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> M. Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> A competitor to HDMI?
>
>
>
http://www.informationweek.com/story/sh ... =171000113
>
>
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>
> To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that
same
> day) send an email to:
> [email protected]


To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same
day) send an email to:
[email protected]






To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same day) send an email to:
[email protected]
#4
----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Shane,

Competition?

Not in the view of the owners of content, and their persistent lobby power that moves mountains.

1394 and HDMI have two different purposes and will continue to coexist due to their
compressed/uncompressed difference.

1394 for the primary purpose of recording and networking, HDMI and DVI for providing a trusted
transmission method due to the overwhelming data for today's capacity of storage devices, and, of
course, the miracle of HDCP, courtesy of Intel and the MPAA, who did not find DTCP as secured.

One day 1394 could announce that it would be flowing over a sprinkler hose to the flower bed on the
front yard, but HDMI and DVI won already the content protectors brain, until some other connection
appears that would beat both.

And that would mean that HD equipment would have to be suited with further types of connections for
the backward compatibility non-sense of unplanned temporary connectivity inventions (component,
1394, DVI, HDMI, and who knows what is next), just look at the huge back panel of hi-end A/V
receivers like the $5000+ Denon and note that there is no more space to fit one more jack.


Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
M. Shane Sturgeon
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:31 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

A competitor to HDMI?


http://www.informationweek.com/story/sh ... =171000113



-- M. Shane Sturgeon



To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same day) send an email to:
[email protected]


To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same day) send an email to:
[email protected]
#5
----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Shane,

400 Mbps of 1394 Firewire is plenty enough speed for a 19.4 Mbps "MPEG-2 compressed" HD transmission
for the purpose of recording or networking, which would be uncompressed at the display point.

5Gbps (or even 10 Gbps with dual Link DVI) is plenty enough speed for the "uncompressed" version of
the above (about 75 times the magnitude of the MPEG-2 version). Its purpose is for "display only"
using a more secured connection, secured for now, look at blu-ray, they added more security layers
on top of HDCP.

They were designed for two different purposes, one does not replace the other.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
M. Shane Sturgeon
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:36 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Doesn't seem like much competition: 400Mbps (Firewire) vs. 5.2 Gbps (HDMI)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon
HDTV Magazine



|---------+--------------------------------->
| | "Bob Mankin" |
| | <[email protected]> |
| | Sent by: "HDTV |
| | Magazine" |
| | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
| | vehdtv.com> |
| | |
| | |
| | 09/20/2005 08:08 PM |
| | Please respond to |
| | "HDTV Magazine" |
| | |
|---------+--------------------------------->
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------|
|
|
| To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
|
| cc:
|
| Subject: Re: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV
|
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------|




----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

That's the flavor of the week for whole house distribution(ie. home media
center). Not directly competing with HDMI.

IP over coax, MoCA(multi-media over coax), 802.11g over coax, WiMAX, UWB
wireless, 802.11n, Homeplug PNA, Phoneline, etc. Pick your poison.

The problem is none of these ideas seem to garner a consensus within the
industry. Various companies get behind different specs in order to position
themselves for any one of them that might float to the top.

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> M. Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> A competitor to HDMI?
>
>
>
http://www.informationweek.com/story/sh ... =171000113
>
>
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>
> To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that
same
> day) send an email to:
> [email protected]


To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same
day) send an email to:
[email protected]






To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same day) send an email to:
[email protected]


To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same day) send an email to:
[email protected]
#6
----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Also, firewire-B is 800Mbps

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:16 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Shane,

400 Mbps of 1394 Firewire is plenty enough speed for a 19.4 Mbps "MPEG-2
compressed" HD transmission for the purpose of recording or networking,
which would be uncompressed at the display point.

5Gbps (or even 10 Gbps with dual Link DVI) is plenty enough speed for
the "uncompressed" version of the above (about 75 times the magnitude of
the MPEG-2 version). Its purpose is for "display only"
using a more secured connection, secured for now, look at blu-ray, they
added more security layers on top of HDCP.

They were designed for two different purposes, one does not replace the
other.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
M. Shane Sturgeon
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:36 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Doesn't seem like much competition: 400Mbps (Firewire) vs. 5.2 Gbps
(HDMI)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon
HDTV Magazine



|---------+--------------------------------->
| | "Bob Mankin" |
| | <[email protected]> |
| | Sent by: "HDTV |
| | Magazine" |
| | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
| | vehdtv.com> |
| | |
| | |
| | 09/20/2005 08:08 PM |
| | Please respond to |
| | "HDTV Magazine" |
| | |
|---------+--------------------------------->

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
-------------------------------------------------|
|
|
| To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
|
| cc:
|
| Subject: Re: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV
|

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
-------------------------------------------------|




----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

That's the flavor of the week for whole house distribution(ie. home
media center). Not directly competing with HDMI.

IP over coax, MoCA(multi-media over coax), 802.11g over coax, WiMAX, UWB
wireless, 802.11n, Homeplug PNA, Phoneline, etc. Pick your poison.

The problem is none of these ideas seem to garner a consensus within the
industry. Various companies get behind different specs in order to
position themselves for any one of them that might float to the top.

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf

> Of M. Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: FireWire Group Developing Spec To Spur HDTV
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> A competitor to HDMI?
>
>
>
http://www.informationweek.com/story/sh ... ID=1710001
13
>
>
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>
> To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that
same
> day) send an email to:
> [email protected]


To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that
same
day) send an email to:
[email protected]






To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that
same day) send an email to:
[email protected]


To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that
same day) send an email to:
[email protected]

To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]

To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that same day) send an email to:
[email protected]