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Jason,
They changed their name from AOD to HD DVD a few years ago. To do that change they requested
approval from the DVD Forum, and they got it because the product uses some of the DVD
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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:00 PM
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Subject: Re: HD-DVD Preferred over Blu-Ray..........what a joke
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I would love to know how the naming even came to be. I mean, there isn't
even a commonly used word for 'next generation DVD' besides HD DVD. So
how was Toshiba or whomever able to trademark/reserve/copyright what is
essentially a common noun? What if someone had trademarked High
Definition and been the only ones allowed to use that name? if I were
sony, I would start calling blu-ray "HD DVD"!
Jason Burroughs
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Subject: Re: HD-DVD Preferred over Blu-Ray..........what a joke
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> quality will out. But, if the decision were left to the mass
consumer
> market do you really have any question as to which way they would
lean?
HD DVD of course! What is blu-ray...? why isn;t it called HD DVD?
I think Toshiba has a huge perception lead in this battle for the mass
market...
Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
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>
> You made my point Dale. I stated that " The only time I've seen this
go the
> other way was
> when the market was limited to a small quality minded group. So if
you are
> saying that the most influence on the success or failure of Blu-Ray
or
> HD-DVD will be exerted by the early adopters of HD TV, then I would
agree,
> quality will out. But, if the decision were left to the mass consumer
> market do you really have any question as to which way they would
lean?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of
> Dale Cripps
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:49 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: HD-DVD Preferred over Blu-Ray..........what a joke
>
>
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>
> Building a pessimistic case by reflecting back upon what happened 20
or more
> years ago seems to me out of step with everything that is going on
today.
> With the help from some friends we chose HDTV over a wide varity of
cheaper
> "Fix Ups." We chose the superior images from DVD over the VCR,
finally.
> Today's constant improvement in displays hardly mirrors the old
Betamax/VHS
> decision days when you could barely make out the difference between
those
> two formats on any commercial display of that time. I might add that
we
> didn't have the Internet to educate so many people at once on what to
look
> for nor were many people even aware of recording or time-shifting or
movies
> on tape when the VHS decision was made. None of those old conditions
> prevail among the early adopters today. I think we will get what is
forward
> looking today rather than what is backward looking. But without a
doubt you
> are right, the marketplace will decide. We are an influence to that
> marketplace. -Dale
>
>
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>>
>>I agree Blu-Ray is the way to go. The market place will decide that
>>ultimately. Looking on it's decisions in the past, I am not hopeful.
>>They
>>did pick VHS over Beta. The only time I've seen this go the other way
was
>>when the market was limited to a small quality minded group that chose
>>laser
>>disc over RCA CED. As I said though we are talking about a much
smaller
>>group in that case.
>>
>>Anthony R.
>>Orlando, FL
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of
>>Dale E. Cripps
>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:52 PM
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: Re: HD-DVD Preferred over Blu-Ray..........what a joke
>>
>>
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>>
>>If we had depended upon surveys the famous HDTV survey done by MIT in
'89
>>would have led us to only ghost free standard TV with better audio and
>>nothing more.
>>http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/history/2005/06/during_the_earl.php
>>
>>But we didn't rely upon those surveys (and they had powerful
supporters).
>>We
>>forged ahead into new territory. Instead of some dead-end
modernization of
>>NTSC you have as a result HDTV with all of its headroom for future
growth.
>>
>>I am going to take a page out of the HDTV story for this Blu-Ray vs.
>>HD-DVD
>>controversy. The one thing that our national move to a completely new
>>platform (digital) proved is that 1) it can be done, and 2) that the
>>maximum
>>potential of contemporary technology comes into being through such
leaps.
>>
>>It is a perilous leap, no question. But as long as both the opening
>>performance of the new is superior to the old and the headroom for the
new
>>is deemed worthy of the risk, then the only smart thing to do is to go
for
>>the new and drop the old. If that means there is some cost
>>associated....well, what doesn't have some cost associated with a leap
>>forward? We bore a cost for HDTV. We have also born the price for new
>>computers, cars, automated homes, and every other modern convenience
that
>>has come to make life more acceptable. We label it economic progress.
If
>>we
>>move to HD-DVD we leap nowhere but to the end of the line. What
further is
>>there with that format other than what might occur incrementally with
some
>>coding efficiencies? With Blu-ray you engage this entirely new breed
of
>>cat.
>>Who among us can foretell all of where that is going to lead us?
HD-DVS is
>>the last struggle for survival of an old and obsolete format. History
>>shows
>>that with each expiring format a brief period of reanimation occurs
in
>>the
>>last hours when those who are still dependant upon the old's survival
>>realize their peril and add with their fading strength the final
values
>>that
>>the format still has to offer. This is a classic case. You see HD-DVD
>>suddenly discovering more capacity today and beating its breast about
it.
>>It's declaration of backwards compatability gives it a ring of reason.
But
>>the format it stretched to the limit with no obvious head room to grow
>>while
>>the new kid on the Blu block, even as a virgin, is superior to the
best of
>>the old format. The new is completely unexplored by the many who will
come
>>in contact with it and has a headroom potential so vast that the end
of
>>its
>>format life cannot be rationally contemplated.
>>
>>There were a plethora of reasons why we might have stayed with the old
>>analog TV system. Like today with HD-DVD, there were many proposals
for a
>>"fix up" that would have given us at least ghost canceling and wide
16:9 t
>>ratio while retaining the "all-important" compatibility with the past.
But
>>that compatibilty was finally looked at as a foot stuck in cement and,
>>thus,
>>stopping forward movement. To get to HDTV we needed to make a new
>>departure,
>>and we did. I think that must be the case for Blu-ray if we are to get
the
>>most out of this revolution. In the final analysis the revolution must
>>keep
>>delivering thrilling new benefits to sustain the excitement needed to
>>bridge
>>us from the old to the new. To adopt some unexciting repair of the old
as
>>part of the revolution can only subtract from the dynamics.
>>
>>For those saying we can't market it because no one will tolerate two
>>formats
>>on the shelves...all I can do is point to television itself and then
note
>>that on every shelf in every retail outlet there are two formats.
Frankly,
>>why a Blu Ray DVD would not be built into every HDTV set in the future
is
>>beyond me, but there are more thoughts about retail than my tiny brain
can
>>hold.
>>
>>Dale
>>
>>
>>
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>>>
>>>Also it depends how the survey questions were written. They could
have
>>>been
>>>heavily weighted in favor of HD-DVD. In truth nothing has come to
market
>>>yet so how could anyone have any preference at this point?
>>>
>>>Anthony R.
>>>Orlando,FL
>>>
>>>
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>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of
>>>Hugh Campbell
>>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:08 PM
>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>Subject: HD-DVD Preferred over Blu-Ray..........what a joke
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>An article appeared in TWICE stating that a survey commissioned by
HD-DVD
>>>showed most people preferred HD-DVD to Blu-Ray. Wow....what a
surprise.
>>>So
>>>who knows what Blu-Ray is and the differences........it's all in the
name
>>>as
>>>I told Sony at CES 2004. And this was admitted as being the factor
>>>causing
>>>people to choose HD-DVD. The whole article can be found here:
>>>http://www.twice.com/article/CA628603.html?display=breakingNews
>>>
>>>Hugh
>>>
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