----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
Richard,
I hope you don't run into this problem....but Time Warner is (at least the
last time I talked to them) unable to get all of the HD channels to work on
cable card....that's the bugaboo up here anyway.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: HD DVR
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Mark,
>
> I can't get a DVR from my cable company.
>
> If I could I have every reason to doubt it's performance capability and
> do not use my DTC6200 for anything SD from cable. I get far better
> imaging with my Panasonic SD DVR recorder via 480P or 540P via an
> external scaler and even with the DTC6200 I view HD via 1394 into my JVC
> DVHS to get rid of a drive line artifact plus it just looks better.
>
> Cable company does not have all the locals. My main need with them is
> HDnet, HDnet Movies, Showtime HD and the local FOX since I have problems
> with that station OTA. I am skeptical about my cable company and bit
> shaving since I do see artifacts. A DVR supporting both systems is
> optimal for me.
>
> If I could get a DVR from my cable company I would actually be covered
> for my critical viewing system and in fact already am using the archaic
> JVC/Motorola/Radio Shack remote timer combo. My need currently is for
> the casual viewing system for my wife who it appears could be watching
> far more HD than I since she is watching many HD shows in SD.
>
> And, I must add, she may end up recording some of those programs SD
> because the HD is unrelaible from the broadcaster. An example in my area
> is Lost, one of her favs, and the local board is replete with very upset
> viewers who have missed an episode or parts of an episode via HD. Some
> of them record it in both formats just in case... I know for her if it
> happens too many times she ain't gonna go through all that and will
> simply watch the SD version.
>
> Frankly, HD is still not quite ready for primetime. If it were not for
> her and the new shiny HDTV she watches I think I would just pass on a
> new DVR for now. On the other hand that cable recording combo system I
> have is frustrating and with the right features... well... I might buy
> TWO! That said I am moving more and more right back to DVD and simply
> waiting for HD DVD and renting some D-Theater from High Definition
> Rentals. WMVHD sounds exciting too if they ever get a player out there!
>
> Thanks to all for the assistance. I had really hoped there was more out
> there than just 2, count 'em, 2 choices and the only difference is the
> freakin hard drive. No wonder they start at $800... Oh, and then I might
> have to battle with my cable company for a cable card plus swallow the
> additional $5 a month they charge for providing it. ARGH!
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> Doug Weil wrote:
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I think that renting a DVR is more attractive today
than
> > owning. But I don't believe for a minute that situation will continue
very
> > much longer.
> >
> > HD DVR hardware won't be at the $1,000 very long and there's already
> > evidence of price-cutting in the relatively rigid (lack of choice)
satellite
> > DVR market. So, I think we'll likely see 30-hour HD DVRs selling at $250
in
> > 2 years, definitely within three. As momentum is growing for these
devices,
> > it seems like a market ripe for copycats, especially when you consider
the
> > current absence of East Asia/China manufacturers. Perversely, this might
> > even benefit the cable companies over the long haul.
> >
> > Sayonara, Scientific-Altanta. Adios, General Instrument.
> >
> > Also, I understand that CableCard compatibility is a mess, but this is
down
> > to CableLabs and the cable industry at large. This arrangement is a
massive
> > conflict of interest that only undermines consumer choice.
> >
> > Finally, I think there's an often overlooked fallacy to the idea that by
> > renting from the cable company the latest technology is a just snap of
the
> > fingers removed from your equipment rack. Cable has a track record for
> > dragging their feet on this stuff -- look how long it took for set-top
boxes
> > to include anything other coax or composite video connections, never
mind
> > for them to begin offering DVRs.
> >
> > Anyway, if you own the DVR hardware and something better comes along,
you
> > have the option of upgrading on your own timetable (buy now and pay top
> > dollar or wait until prices come down), plus you can "repurpose" your
old
> > equipment on a secondary set, further reducing the "monthly" cost of
> > ownership.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Doug
> > Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
> >
> > Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> > Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
> >
> > eMail: [email protected]
> > Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
> >
> > Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
> > http://www.imagingscience.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of
> > Mark Alford
> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 0:43
> > To: HDTV Magazine
> > Subject: Re: HD DVR
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > I must be living in the right place, but unless I have missed something
on
> > my bill the is no DVR service fee, just the monthly rental...but even at
15
> > a month, it will take 5.5 years before you would have spent 1000
dollars.
> > On top of that , I can switch my box out every time a new model comes
out.
> > You can't do that with one that you've bought...and we all know what the
> > used electronics market is like. I do understand there are markets that
> > don't offer all of the networks on cable. That just isn't the case in
> > Charlotte.
> >
> > Someone else mentioned the difference between the cable boxes and the
Tivo
> > system. Yes that does exist, and I doubt anyone would argue that the
cable
> > DVR's are somewaht lacking in that respect.......but the Sony will be
too
> > probably. I am not sure how many folks have actually used cable cards
on
> > the list, but they have been a nightmare in the Charlotte Market. Don't
> > really want to open up that can of worms. I do
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Doug Weil" <[email protected]>
> > To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: HD DVR
> >
> >
> >
> >>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >>Mark,
> >>
> >>In some cable markets, HD DVRs can cost more than $15 a month if you add
> >>together the DVR equipment rental and DVR service fee, so as the price
of
> >>DVR hardware falls, buying your own box will become more and more
> >>attractive.
> >>
> >>Of course, cable DVR rental and service fees MIGHT come down in the face
> >
> > of
> >
> >>cheap, cable-compatible hardware, but you can be fairly certain that
WOULD
> >>NOT happen without an alternative to the local cable monopoly solution.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>Doug
> >>Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
> >>
> >>Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> >>Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
> >>
> >>eMail: [email protected]
> >>Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
> >>
> >>Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
> >>http://www.imagingscience.com
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of
> >>Dave Hancock
> >>Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:22
> >>To: HDTV Magazine
> >>Subject: Re: HD DVR
> >>
> >>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >>Mark,
> >>
> >>There are (at least) two reasons why people would want to buy a HD DVR
> >>for OTA & cable:
> >>
> >>1) The user interfaces on the cable supplied boxes are not up to
> >>expectations set by TiVo.
> >>2) Due to outrageous demands by some broadcasters (Sinclair, for
> >>example) not all local HD channels are on cable. The result in
> >>Rochester, NY for example, is if you want to see "24" in HD you need to
> >>get it OTA.
> >>
> >>If this is not settled when the next season of "24" starts I'll have to
> >>do something different.
> >>
> >>Dave Hancock
> >>Mark Alford wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>>
> >>>Most of the cable systems DVR's that are available do more than the
Sony
> >>>pieces......Why would you want to buy one ? I am on a second generation
> >>>Scientic Atlanta piece after having the first generation. It cost me
> >>>nothing to upgrade and at the price I am paying it will take close to
ten
> >>>years before the rent of the DVR will exceed the cost of buying one.
> >
> > Plus,
> >
> >>>unless they have made some tremendous strides with the cable cards over
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>last couple of months, there are stiill issues there as well.
> >>>
> >>>Not trying to start an argument, just curious.
> >>>
> >>>Mark
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Doug Weil" <[email protected]>
> >>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:45 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: HD DVR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>>>
> >>>>Richard,
> >>>>
> >>>>Sony has two much-delayed products that fill the bill, the DHG-HDD250
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>the DHG-HDD500. They supposedly are available now but I've heard so
> >
> > little
> >
> >>>>about these boxes, I have reason to doubt you could buy one right now.
> >>>>
> >>>>Both work with a CableCard and have an OTA ATSC tuner. The big
drawbacks
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>>see are the price ($1000 for 60 hours capacity, or $800 for 30 hours)
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>the fact that neither has dual-tuner recording ability.
> >>>>
> >>>>But still, it's hope for doing an end-around your local cableco.
> >>>>
> >>>>Review here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_DHG_HDD500/4505-6474_7-31155752-2.html?tag=to
p
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>Retailers selling them here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_DHG_HDD500/4014-6474_7-31155752.html?tag=pdtl
-
> >>l
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>ist&q=
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Doug
> >>>>Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
> >>>>
> >>>>Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> >>>>Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
> >>>>
> >>>>eMail: [email protected]
> >>>>Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
> >>>>http://www.imagingscience.com
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> >
> > Of
> >
> >>>>Richard
> >>>>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 23:52
> >>>>To: HDTV Magazine
> >>>>Subject: HD DVR
> >>>>
> >>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>>>
> >>>>Rodolfo,
> >>>>
> >>>>I just went through your report and find the landscape quite bleak for
> >>>>an HD DVR much less one that does both OTA and cable with a cable
card.
> >>>>
> >>>>Please tell me I missed something or there is some hope on a near
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>horizon...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>Richard Fisher
> >>>>www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> >>>>A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Richard,
I hope you don't run into this problem....but Time Warner is (at least the
last time I talked to them) unable to get all of the HD channels to work on
cable card....that's the bugaboo up here anyway.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: HD DVR
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Mark,
>
> I can't get a DVR from my cable company.
>
> If I could I have every reason to doubt it's performance capability and
> do not use my DTC6200 for anything SD from cable. I get far better
> imaging with my Panasonic SD DVR recorder via 480P or 540P via an
> external scaler and even with the DTC6200 I view HD via 1394 into my JVC
> DVHS to get rid of a drive line artifact plus it just looks better.
>
> Cable company does not have all the locals. My main need with them is
> HDnet, HDnet Movies, Showtime HD and the local FOX since I have problems
> with that station OTA. I am skeptical about my cable company and bit
> shaving since I do see artifacts. A DVR supporting both systems is
> optimal for me.
>
> If I could get a DVR from my cable company I would actually be covered
> for my critical viewing system and in fact already am using the archaic
> JVC/Motorola/Radio Shack remote timer combo. My need currently is for
> the casual viewing system for my wife who it appears could be watching
> far more HD than I since she is watching many HD shows in SD.
>
> And, I must add, she may end up recording some of those programs SD
> because the HD is unrelaible from the broadcaster. An example in my area
> is Lost, one of her favs, and the local board is replete with very upset
> viewers who have missed an episode or parts of an episode via HD. Some
> of them record it in both formats just in case... I know for her if it
> happens too many times she ain't gonna go through all that and will
> simply watch the SD version.
>
> Frankly, HD is still not quite ready for primetime. If it were not for
> her and the new shiny HDTV she watches I think I would just pass on a
> new DVR for now. On the other hand that cable recording combo system I
> have is frustrating and with the right features... well... I might buy
> TWO! That said I am moving more and more right back to DVD and simply
> waiting for HD DVD and renting some D-Theater from High Definition
> Rentals. WMVHD sounds exciting too if they ever get a player out there!
>
> Thanks to all for the assistance. I had really hoped there was more out
> there than just 2, count 'em, 2 choices and the only difference is the
> freakin hard drive. No wonder they start at $800... Oh, and then I might
> have to battle with my cable company for a cable card plus swallow the
> additional $5 a month they charge for providing it. ARGH!
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> Doug Weil wrote:
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I think that renting a DVR is more attractive today
than
> > owning. But I don't believe for a minute that situation will continue
very
> > much longer.
> >
> > HD DVR hardware won't be at the $1,000 very long and there's already
> > evidence of price-cutting in the relatively rigid (lack of choice)
satellite
> > DVR market. So, I think we'll likely see 30-hour HD DVRs selling at $250
in
> > 2 years, definitely within three. As momentum is growing for these
devices,
> > it seems like a market ripe for copycats, especially when you consider
the
> > current absence of East Asia/China manufacturers. Perversely, this might
> > even benefit the cable companies over the long haul.
> >
> > Sayonara, Scientific-Altanta. Adios, General Instrument.
> >
> > Also, I understand that CableCard compatibility is a mess, but this is
down
> > to CableLabs and the cable industry at large. This arrangement is a
massive
> > conflict of interest that only undermines consumer choice.
> >
> > Finally, I think there's an often overlooked fallacy to the idea that by
> > renting from the cable company the latest technology is a just snap of
the
> > fingers removed from your equipment rack. Cable has a track record for
> > dragging their feet on this stuff -- look how long it took for set-top
boxes
> > to include anything other coax or composite video connections, never
mind
> > for them to begin offering DVRs.
> >
> > Anyway, if you own the DVR hardware and something better comes along,
you
> > have the option of upgrading on your own timetable (buy now and pay top
> > dollar or wait until prices come down), plus you can "repurpose" your
old
> > equipment on a secondary set, further reducing the "monthly" cost of
> > ownership.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Doug
> > Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
> >
> > Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> > Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
> >
> > eMail: [email protected]
> > Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
> >
> > Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
> > http://www.imagingscience.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of
> > Mark Alford
> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 0:43
> > To: HDTV Magazine
> > Subject: Re: HD DVR
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > I must be living in the right place, but unless I have missed something
on
> > my bill the is no DVR service fee, just the monthly rental...but even at
15
> > a month, it will take 5.5 years before you would have spent 1000
dollars.
> > On top of that , I can switch my box out every time a new model comes
out.
> > You can't do that with one that you've bought...and we all know what the
> > used electronics market is like. I do understand there are markets that
> > don't offer all of the networks on cable. That just isn't the case in
> > Charlotte.
> >
> > Someone else mentioned the difference between the cable boxes and the
Tivo
> > system. Yes that does exist, and I doubt anyone would argue that the
cable
> > DVR's are somewaht lacking in that respect.......but the Sony will be
too
> > probably. I am not sure how many folks have actually used cable cards
on
> > the list, but they have been a nightmare in the Charlotte Market. Don't
> > really want to open up that can of worms. I do
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Doug Weil" <[email protected]>
> > To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: HD DVR
> >
> >
> >
> >>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >>Mark,
> >>
> >>In some cable markets, HD DVRs can cost more than $15 a month if you add
> >>together the DVR equipment rental and DVR service fee, so as the price
of
> >>DVR hardware falls, buying your own box will become more and more
> >>attractive.
> >>
> >>Of course, cable DVR rental and service fees MIGHT come down in the face
> >
> > of
> >
> >>cheap, cable-compatible hardware, but you can be fairly certain that
WOULD
> >>NOT happen without an alternative to the local cable monopoly solution.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>Doug
> >>Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
> >>
> >>Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> >>Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
> >>
> >>eMail: [email protected]
> >>Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
> >>
> >>Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
> >>http://www.imagingscience.com
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of
> >>Dave Hancock
> >>Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:22
> >>To: HDTV Magazine
> >>Subject: Re: HD DVR
> >>
> >>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >>Mark,
> >>
> >>There are (at least) two reasons why people would want to buy a HD DVR
> >>for OTA & cable:
> >>
> >>1) The user interfaces on the cable supplied boxes are not up to
> >>expectations set by TiVo.
> >>2) Due to outrageous demands by some broadcasters (Sinclair, for
> >>example) not all local HD channels are on cable. The result in
> >>Rochester, NY for example, is if you want to see "24" in HD you need to
> >>get it OTA.
> >>
> >>If this is not settled when the next season of "24" starts I'll have to
> >>do something different.
> >>
> >>Dave Hancock
> >>Mark Alford wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>>
> >>>Most of the cable systems DVR's that are available do more than the
Sony
> >>>pieces......Why would you want to buy one ? I am on a second generation
> >>>Scientic Atlanta piece after having the first generation. It cost me
> >>>nothing to upgrade and at the price I am paying it will take close to
ten
> >>>years before the rent of the DVR will exceed the cost of buying one.
> >
> > Plus,
> >
> >>>unless they have made some tremendous strides with the cable cards over
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>last couple of months, there are stiill issues there as well.
> >>>
> >>>Not trying to start an argument, just curious.
> >>>
> >>>Mark
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Doug Weil" <[email protected]>
> >>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:45 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: HD DVR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>>>
> >>>>Richard,
> >>>>
> >>>>Sony has two much-delayed products that fill the bill, the DHG-HDD250
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>the DHG-HDD500. They supposedly are available now but I've heard so
> >
> > little
> >
> >>>>about these boxes, I have reason to doubt you could buy one right now.
> >>>>
> >>>>Both work with a CableCard and have an OTA ATSC tuner. The big
drawbacks
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>>see are the price ($1000 for 60 hours capacity, or $800 for 30 hours)
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>the fact that neither has dual-tuner recording ability.
> >>>>
> >>>>But still, it's hope for doing an end-around your local cableco.
> >>>>
> >>>>Review here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_DHG_HDD500/4505-6474_7-31155752-2.html?tag=to
p
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>Retailers selling them here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_DHG_HDD500/4014-6474_7-31155752.html?tag=pdtl
-
> >>l
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>ist&q=
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Doug
> >>>>Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
> >>>>
> >>>>Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> >>>>Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
> >>>>
> >>>>eMail: [email protected]
> >>>>Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
> >>>>http://www.imagingscience.com
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> >
> > Of
> >
> >>>>Richard
> >>>>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 23:52
> >>>>To: HDTV Magazine
> >>>>Subject: HD DVR
> >>>>
> >>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>>>
> >>>>Rodolfo,
> >>>>
> >>>>I just went through your report and find the landscape quite bleak for
> >>>>an HD DVR much less one that does both OTA and cable with a cable
card.
> >>>>
> >>>>Please tell me I missed something or there is some hope on a near
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>horizon...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>Richard Fisher
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