HD Hookup

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James,
I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with one,
but here it is.

Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and scaler
have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least would
give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video from
your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
Video part:
---------------
Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does not,
and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher (and
add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have enough
inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go directly
to the display's HDMI input.
Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would be
bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid for
the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not going
to get into which unit does what best.
To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting you
could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).

Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should "in
theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the Tivo or
from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of doing
upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not the
spec, not a magazine review).

In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO 30,
and that is not my intention on this email.


Audio part:
----------------
I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving audio
from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you cannot
use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.

If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog connections, I
would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc hi-bit
soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability). In
addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain from
the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.

I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV receiver
"when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in such
case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
months (just kidding).
However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver before
assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with the
mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections using
short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths for
video and audio.


Alternative:
----------------
There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI to
legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with HDMI
(your case);
One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the option.
The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler) from
the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both operated
from the same switcher.
But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
having no switchers.



Best Regards

Rodolfo La Maestra

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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
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Subject: HD Hookup

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I have a:

Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
Monster HTPS 7000
Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner

Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with my
technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
possible? Thanks in advance.



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Rodolfo,

I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device is
hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
optical means via the receiver?

Thank you again for your email analysis.


On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> James,
> I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with one,
> but here it is.
>
> Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and scaler
> have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
> image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least would
> give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video from
> your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
> Video part:
> ---------------
> Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does not,
> and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher (and
> add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have enough
> inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go directly
> to the display's HDMI input.
> Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
> HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
> connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would be
> bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
> upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid for
> the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
> underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not going
> to get into which unit does what best.
> To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
> options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
> receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting you
> could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>
> Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should "in
> theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the Tivo or
> from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of doing
> upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not the
> spec, not a magazine review).
>
> In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
> better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO 30,
> and that is not my intention on this email.
>
>
> Audio part:
> ----------------
> I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving audio
> from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
> second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you cannot
> use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>
> If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog connections, I
> would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc hi-bit
> soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability). In
> addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
> mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain from
> the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
> decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>
> I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
> video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV receiver
> "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in such
> case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
> months (just kidding).
> However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver before
> assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
> HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with the
> mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections using
> short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
> inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths for
> video and audio.
>
>
> Alternative:
> ----------------
> There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI to
> legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with HDMI
> (your case);
> One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
> You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the option.
> The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler) from
> the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both operated
> from the same switcher.
> But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
> problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
> having no switchers.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> Behalf Of James Healy
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> Subject: HD Hookup
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I have a:
>
> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
> LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
> Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
> DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
> Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
> 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
> Monster HTPS 7000
> Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>
> Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with my
> technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
> possible? Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
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James,

It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an example I
have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and with a
parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video is
sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.

However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that would
facilitate the parallel audio.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
Behalf Of James Healy
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
Subject: Re: HD Hookup

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Rodolfo,

I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device is
hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
optical means via the receiver?

Thank you again for your email analysis.


On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> James,
> I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with one,
> but here it is.
>
> Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
scaler
> have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
> image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
would
> give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
from
> your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
> Video part:
> ---------------
> Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
not,
> and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher (and
> add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have enough
> inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
directly
> to the display's HDMI input.
> Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
> HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
> connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would be
> bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
> upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
for
> the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
> underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not going
> to get into which unit does what best.
> To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
> options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
> receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
you
> could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>
> Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
"in
> theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the Tivo
or
> from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of doing
> upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
the
> spec, not a magazine review).
>
> In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
> better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
30,
> and that is not my intention on this email.
>
>
> Audio part:
> ----------------
> I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
audio
> from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
> second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you cannot
> use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>
> If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog connections,
I
> would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
hi-bit
> soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
In
> addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
> mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
from
> the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
> decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>
> I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
> video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV receiver
> "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
such
> case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
> months (just kidding).
> However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
before
> assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
> HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
the
> mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections using
> short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
> inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths for
> video and audio.
>
>
> Alternative:
> ----------------
> There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
to
> legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with HDMI
> (your case);
> One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
> You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
option.
> The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
from
> the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
operated
> from the same switcher.
> But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
> problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
> having no switchers.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> Behalf Of James Healy
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> Subject: HD Hookup
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I have a:
>
> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
> LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
> Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
> DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
> Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
> 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
> Monster HTPS 7000
> Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>
> Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
my
> technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
> possible? Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
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James,

I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
(my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
box).

I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
need me to take a look.

Jeff

On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> James,
>
> It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
> certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an example I
> have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and with a
> parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video is
> sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>
> However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
> HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
> Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that would
> facilitate the parallel audio.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> Behalf Of James Healy
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Rodolfo,
>
> I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
> ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device is
> hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
> optical means via the receiver?
>
> Thank you again for your email analysis.
>
>
> On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > James,
> > I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with one,
> > but here it is.
> >
> > Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
> scaler
> > have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
> > image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
> would
> > give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
> from
> > your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
> > Video part:
> > ---------------
> > Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
> not,
> > and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher (and
> > add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have enough
> > inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
> directly
> > to the display's HDMI input.
> > Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
> > HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
> > connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would be
> > bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
> > upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
> for
> > the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
> > underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not going
> > to get into which unit does what best.
> > To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
> > options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
> > receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
> you
> > could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
> >
> > Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
> "in
> > theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the Tivo
> or
> > from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of doing
> > upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
> the
> > spec, not a magazine review).
> >
> > In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
> > better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
> 30,
> > and that is not my intention on this email.
> >
> >
> > Audio part:
> > ----------------
> > I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
> audio
> > from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
> > second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you cannot
> > use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
> >
> > If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog connections,
> I
> > would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
> hi-bit
> > soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
> In
> > addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
> > mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
> from
> > the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
> > decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
> >
> > I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
> > video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV receiver
> > "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
> such
> > case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
> > months (just kidding).
> > However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
> before
> > assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
> > HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
> the
> > mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections using
> > short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
> > inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths for
> > video and audio.
> >
> >
> > Alternative:
> > ----------------
> > There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
> to
> > legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with HDMI
> > (your case);
> > One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
> > You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
> option.
> > The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
> from
> > the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
> operated
> > from the same switcher.
> > But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
> > problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
> > having no switchers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Rodolfo La Maestra
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> > Behalf Of James Healy
> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> > Subject: HD Hookup
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > I have a:
> >
> > Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
> > LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
> > Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
> > DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
> > Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
> > 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
> > Monster HTPS 7000
> > Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
> >
> > Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
> my
> > technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
> > possible? Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
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James,

Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
Subject: Re: HD Hookup

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James,

I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
(my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
box).

I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
need me to take a look.

Jeff

On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> James,
>
> It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
> certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an example
I
> have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and with
a
> parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
is
> sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>
> However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
> HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
> Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
would
> facilitate the parallel audio.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> Behalf Of James Healy
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Rodolfo,
>
> I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
> ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device is
> hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
> optical means via the receiver?
>
> Thank you again for your email analysis.
>
>
> On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > James,
> > I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
one,
> > but here it is.
> >
> > Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
> scaler
> > have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
> > image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
> would
> > give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
> from
> > your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
> > Video part:
> > ---------------
> > Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
> not,
> > and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
(and
> > add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
enough
> > inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
> directly
> > to the display's HDMI input.
> > Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
> > HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
> > connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
be
> > bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
> > upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
> for
> > the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
> > underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
going
> > to get into which unit does what best.
> > To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
> > options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
> > receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
> you
> > could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
> >
> > Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
> "in
> > theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
Tivo
> or
> > from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
doing
> > upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
> the
> > spec, not a magazine review).
> >
> > In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
> > better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
> 30,
> > and that is not my intention on this email.
> >
> >
> > Audio part:
> > ----------------
> > I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
> audio
> > from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
> > second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
cannot
> > use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
> >
> > If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
connections,
> I
> > would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
> hi-bit
> > soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
> In
> > addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
> > mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
> from
> > the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
> > decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
> >
> > I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
> > video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
receiver
> > "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
> such
> > case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
> > months (just kidding).
> > However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
> before
> > assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
> > HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
> the
> > mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
using
> > short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
> > inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
for
> > video and audio.
> >
> >
> > Alternative:
> > ----------------
> > There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
> to
> > legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
HDMI
> > (your case);
> > One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
> > You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
> option.
> > The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
> from
> > the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
> operated
> > from the same switcher.
> > But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
> > problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
> > having no switchers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Rodolfo La Maestra
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> > Behalf Of James Healy
> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> > Subject: HD Hookup
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > I have a:
> >
> > Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
> > LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
> > Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
> > DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
> > Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
> > 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
> > Monster HTPS 7000
> > Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
> >
> > Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
> my
> > technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
> > possible? Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
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Rodolfo, Jeff.

Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem. I
have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player connected,
the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".

I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a return.
I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without any
HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know why
this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.

Any ideas?


On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> James,
>
> Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> Behalf Of Jeff Odell
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> James,
>
> I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
> menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
> (my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
> box).
>
> I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
> can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
> need me to take a look.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> James,
>>
>> It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
>> certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an example
> I
>> have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and with
> a
>> parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
> is
>> sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>>
>> However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
>> HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
>> Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
> would
>> facilitate the parallel audio.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>> Behalf Of James Healy
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Rodolfo,
>>
>> I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
>> ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device is
>> hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
>> optical means via the receiver?
>>
>> Thank you again for your email analysis.
>>
>>
>> On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> James,
>>> I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
> one,
>>> but here it is.
>>>
>>> Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
>> scaler
>>> have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
>>> image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
>> would
>>> give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
>> from
>>> your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
>>> Video part:
>>> ---------------
>>> Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
>> not,
>>> and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
> (and
>>> add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
> enough
>>> inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
>> directly
>>> to the display's HDMI input.
>>> Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
>>> HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
>>> connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
> be
>>> bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
>>> upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
>> for
>>> the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
>>> underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
> going
>>> to get into which unit does what best.
>>> To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
>>> options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
>>> receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
>> you
>>> could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>>>
>>> Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
>> "in
>>> theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
> Tivo
>> or
>>> from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
> doing
>>> upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
>> the
>>> spec, not a magazine review).
>>>
>>> In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
>>> better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
>> 30,
>>> and that is not my intention on this email.
>>>
>>>
>>> Audio part:
>>> ----------------
>>> I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
>> audio
>>> from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
>>> second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
> cannot
>>> use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>>>
>>> If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
> connections,
>> I
>>> would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
>> hi-bit
>>> soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
>> In
>>> addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
>>> mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
>> from
>>> the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
>>> decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>>>
>>> I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
>>> video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
> receiver
>>> "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
>> such
>>> case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
>>> months (just kidding).
>>> However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
>> before
>>> assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
>>> HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
>> the
>>> mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
> using
>>> short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
>>> inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
> for
>>> video and audio.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alternative:
>>> ----------------
>>> There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
>> to
>>> legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
> HDMI
>>> (your case);
>>> One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
>>> You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
>> option.
>>> The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
>> from
>>> the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
>> operated
>>> from the same switcher.
>>> But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
>>> problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
>>> having no switchers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>> Subject: HD Hookup
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> I have a:
>>>
>>> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
>>> LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
>>> Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
>>> DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
>>> Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
>>> 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
>>> Monster HTPS 7000
>>> Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>>>
>>> Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
>> my
>>> technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
>>> possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Once you are booted up can you connect the bh100? I suspect a HDMI
incompatability

Jeff

On 8/28/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Rodolfo, Jeff.
>
> Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem. I
> have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player connected,
> the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".
>
> I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a return.
> I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without any
> HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know why
> this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > James,
> >
> > Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Rodolfo
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> > Behalf Of Jeff Odell
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> > Subject: Re: HD Hookup
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > James,
> >
> > I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
> > menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
> > (my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
> > box).
> >
> > I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
> > can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
> > need me to take a look.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> James,
> >>
> >> It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
> >> certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an
> example
> > I
> >> have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and
> with
> > a
> >> parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
> > is
> >> sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
> >>
> >> However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
> >> HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
> >> Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
> > would
> >> facilitate the parallel audio.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Rodolfo La Maestra
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> >> Behalf Of James Healy
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> >> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
> >>
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> Rodolfo,
> >>
> >> I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
> >> ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device
> is
> >> hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
> >> optical means via the receiver?
> >>
> >> Thank you again for your email analysis.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>>
> >>> James,
> >>> I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
> > one,
> >>> but here it is.
> >>>
> >>> Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
> >> scaler
> >>> have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
> >>> image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
> >> would
> >>> give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
> >> from
> >>> your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
> >>> Video part:
> >>> ---------------
> >>> Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
> >> not,
> >>> and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
> > (and
> >>> add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
> > enough
> >>> inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
> >> directly
> >>> to the display's HDMI input.
> >>> Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
> >>> HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
> >>> connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
> > be
> >>> bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
> >>> upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
> >> for
> >>> the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
> >>> underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
> > going
> >>> to get into which unit does what best.
> >>> To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
> >>> options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
> >>> receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
> >> you
> >>> could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
> >>>
> >>> Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
> >> "in
> >>> theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
> > Tivo
> >> or
> >>> from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
> > doing
> >>> upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
> >> the
> >>> spec, not a magazine review).
> >>>
> >>> In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
> >>> better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
> >> 30,
> >>> and that is not my intention on this email.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Audio part:
> >>> ----------------
> >>> I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
> >> audio
> >>> from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
> >>> second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
> > cannot
> >>> use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
> >>>
> >>> If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
> > connections,
> >> I
> >>> would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
> >> hi-bit
> >>> soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
> >> In
> >>> addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
> >>> mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
> >> from
> >>> the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
> >>> decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
> >>>
> >>> I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
> >>> video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
> > receiver
> >>> "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
> >> such
> >>> case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
> >>> months (just kidding).
> >>> However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
> >> before
> >>> assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
> >>> HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
> >> the
> >>> mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
> > using
> >>> short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
> >>> inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
> > for
> >>> video and audio.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alternative:
> >>> ----------------
> >>> There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
> >> to
> >>> legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
> > HDMI
> >>> (your case);
> >>> One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
> >>> You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
> >> option.
> >>> The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
> >> from
> >>> the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
> >> operated
> >>> from the same switcher.
> >>> But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
> >>> problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
> >>> having no switchers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards
> >>>
> >>> Rodolfo La Maestra
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
> >>> Behalf Of James Healy
> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
> >>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
> >>> Subject: HD Hookup
> >>>
> >>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>>
> >>> I have a:
> >>>
> >>> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
> >>> LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
> >>> Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
> >>> DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
> >>> Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
> >>> 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
> >>> Monster HTPS 7000
> >>> Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
> >>>
> >>> Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
> >> my
> >>> technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
> >>> possible? Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>>
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Once the Bh100 booted up I then connected it to the DVDO Vp30, The LG banner
came on the screen but all the controls accept the power button would not
work.

If their is a HDMI impartibility issue then what? Of course I am the first
one to have this problem with Anchor Bay(DVDO). They said maybe a firmware
update may help. May?? The player has been out months and the DVDO hardware
is pretty popular. Why I am the first one with the problem is beyond me.
Thanks


On 8/28/07 4:53 PM, "Jeff Odell" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Once you are booted up can you connect the bh100? I suspect a HDMI
> incompatability
>
> Jeff
>
> On 8/28/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Rodolfo, Jeff.
>>
>> Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem. I
>> have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player connected,
>> the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".
>>
>> I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a return.
>> I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without any
>> HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know why
>> this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Rodolfo
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>> Behalf Of Jeff Odell
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
>>> menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
>>> (my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
>>> box).
>>>
>>> I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
>>> can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
>>> need me to take a look.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> James,
>>>>
>>>> It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
>>>> certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an
>> example
>>> I
>>>> have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and
>> with
>>> a
>>>> parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
>>> is
>>>> sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>>>>
>>>> However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
>>>> HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
>>>> Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
>>> would
>>>> facilitate the parallel audio.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Rodolfo,
>>>>
>>>> I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
>>>> ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device
>> is
>>>> hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
>>>> optical means via the receiver?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you again for your email analysis.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> James,
>>>>> I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
>>> one,
>>>>> but here it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
>>>> scaler
>>>>> have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
>>>>> image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
>>>> would
>>>>> give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
>>>> from
>>>>> your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
>>>>> Video part:
>>>>> ---------------
>>>>> Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
>>>> not,
>>>>> and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
>>> (and
>>>>> add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
>>> enough
>>>>> inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
>>>> directly
>>>>> to the display's HDMI input.
>>>>> Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
>>>>> HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
>>>>> connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
>>> be
>>>>> bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
>>>>> upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
>>>> for
>>>>> the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
>>>>> underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
>>> going
>>>>> to get into which unit does what best.
>>>>> To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
>>>>> options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
>>>>> receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
>>>> you
>>>>> could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
>>>> "in
>>>>> theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
>>> Tivo
>>>> or
>>>>> from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
>>> doing
>>>>> upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
>>>> the
>>>>> spec, not a magazine review).
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
>>>>> better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
>>>> 30,
>>>>> and that is not my intention on this email.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Audio part:
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>> I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
>>>> audio
>>>>> from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
>>>>> second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
>>> cannot
>>>>> use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
>>> connections,
>>>> I
>>>>> would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
>>>> hi-bit
>>>>> soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
>>>> In
>>>>> addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
>>>>> mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
>>>> from
>>>>> the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
>>>>> decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
>>>>> video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
>>> receiver
>>>>> "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
>>>> such
>>>>> case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
>>>>> months (just kidding).
>>>>> However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
>>>> before
>>>>> assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
>>>>> HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
>>>> the
>>>>> mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
>>> using
>>>>> short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
>>>>> inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
>>> for
>>>>> video and audio.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternative:
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>> There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
>>>> to
>>>>> legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
>>> HDMI
>>>>> (your case);
>>>>> One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
>>>>> You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
>>>> option.
>>>>> The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
>>>> from
>>>>> the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
>>>> operated
>>>>> from the same switcher.
>>>>> But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
>>>>> problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
>>>>> having no switchers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>> Subject: HD Hookup
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
>>>>> LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
>>>>> Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
>>>>> DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
>>>>> Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
>>>>> 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
>>>>> Monster HTPS 7000
>>>>> Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
>>>> my
>>>>> technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
>>>>> possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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James,

It sounds as an HDMI/HDCP handshake problem, and it might be exactly what I
mentioned on my first email regarding HDMI behavior.

I assume the HDMI cables are not excessively long. Try testing each HDMI
cable and connect each individually from the player to the TV, which I
assume it works (or with the TIVO to the TV if that one works), the purpose
is to make sure both cables work well independently.

I would also try component analog connections between player/scaler/TV to
see if those work as well.

You might be facing a resolution/frame rate incompatibility problem instead.
To keep it simple play a regular DVD, set the player as 1080i out
upconversion, set the DVDO as 1080i in and 1080i out, set the TV as 1080i in
(or in auto).

If that works with the HDMI connections then that was the problem.

If that does not work then is most probably the DVDO handshake that is not
repeating well the HDMI/HDCP that is receiving from the player. Check the
forums for the player and scaler combination owner problems and firmware
upgrades.

Let us continue with private emails, I do not thing the entire list might be
interested in the troubleshooting.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
Behalf Of James Healy
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:05 PM
To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
Subject: Re: HD Hookup

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Once the Bh100 booted up I then connected it to the DVDO Vp30, The LG banner
came on the screen but all the controls accept the power button would not
work.

If their is a HDMI impartibility issue then what? Of course I am the first
one to have this problem with Anchor Bay(DVDO). They said maybe a firmware
update may help. May?? The player has been out months and the DVDO hardware
is pretty popular. Why I am the first one with the problem is beyond me.
Thanks


On 8/28/07 4:53 PM, "Jeff Odell" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Once you are booted up can you connect the bh100? I suspect a HDMI
> incompatability
>
> Jeff
>
> On 8/28/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Rodolfo, Jeff.
>>
>> Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem.
I
>> have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player
connected,
>> the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".
>>
>> I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a
return.
>> I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without
any
>> HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know
why
>> this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Rodolfo
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>> Behalf Of Jeff Odell
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
>>> menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
>>> (my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
>>> box).
>>>
>>> I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
>>> can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
>>> need me to take a look.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> James,
>>>>
>>>> It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that
is
>>>> certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an
>> example
>>> I
>>>> have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and
>> with
>>> a
>>>> parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro.
Video
>>> is
>>>> sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>>>>
>>>> However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
>>>> HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for
the
>>>> Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
>>> would
>>>> facilitate the parallel audio.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List
On
>>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Rodolfo,
>>>>
>>>> I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG
Blue
>>>> ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device
>> is
>>>> hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio
by
>>>> optical means via the receiver?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you again for your email analysis.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> James,
>>>>> I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
>>> one,
>>>>> but here it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
>>>> scaler
>>>>> have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better
video
>>>>> image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
>>>> would
>>>>> give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
>>>> from
>>>>> your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
>>>>> Video part:
>>>>> ---------------
>>>>> Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver
does
>>>> not,
>>>>> and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
>>> (and
>>>>> add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
>>> enough
>>>>> inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
>>>> directly
>>>>> to the display's HDMI input.
>>>>> Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get
into
>>>>> HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is
to
>>>>> connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
>>> be
>>>>> bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
>>>>> upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already
paid
>>>> for
>>>>> the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
>>>>> underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
>>> going
>>>>> to get into which unit does what best.
>>>>> To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
>>>>> options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
>>>>> receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only
setting
>>>> you
>>>>> could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or
directly).
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path)
should
>>>> "in
>>>>> theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
>>> Tivo
>>>> or
>>>>> from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
>>> doing
>>>>> upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide,
not
>>>> the
>>>>> spec, not a magazine review).
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
>>>>> better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and
DVDO
>>>> 30,
>>>>> and that is not my intention on this email.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Audio part:
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>> I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
>>>> audio
>>>>> from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
>>>>> second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
>>> cannot
>>>>> use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
>>> connections,
>>>> I
>>>>> would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
>>>> hi-bit
>>>>> soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such
capability).
>>>> In
>>>>> addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio
connection
>>>>> mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
>>>> from
>>>>> the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's
DD
>>>>> decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio
and
>>>>> video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
>>> receiver
>>>>> "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
>>>> such
>>>>> case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next
few
>>>>> months (just kidding).
>>>>> However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
>>>> before
>>>>> assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
>>>>> HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice
with
>>>> the
>>>>> mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
>>> using
>>>>> short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
>>>>> inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
>>> for
>>>>> video and audio.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternative:
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>> There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from
HDMI
>>>> to
>>>>> legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
>>> HDMI
>>>>> (your case);
>>>>> One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
>>>>> You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
>>>> option.
>>>>> The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or
scaler)
>>>> from
>>>>> the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
>>>> operated
>>>>> from the same switcher.
>>>>> But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve
your
>>>>> problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
>>>>> having no switchers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List
On
>>>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>> Subject: HD Hookup
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
>>>>> LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
>>>>> Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
>>>>> DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
>>>>> Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
>>>>> 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
>>>>> Monster HTPS 7000
>>>>> Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up
with
>>>> my
>>>>> technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
>>>>> possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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James,

Why do you want to run the LG into the scaler?

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James Healy wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Once the Bh100 booted up I then connected it to the DVDO Vp30, The LG banner
> came on the screen but all the controls accept the power button would not
> work.
>
> If their is a HDMI impartibility issue then what? Of course I am the first
> one to have this problem with Anchor Bay(DVDO). They said maybe a firmware
> update may help. May?? The player has been out months and the DVDO hardware
> is pretty popular. Why I am the first one with the problem is beyond me.
> Thanks
>
>
> On 8/28/07 4:53 PM, "Jeff Odell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Once you are booted up can you connect the bh100? I suspect a HDMI
>>incompatability
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>On 8/28/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Rodolfo, Jeff.
>>>
>>>Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem. I
>>>have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player connected,
>>>the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".
>>>
>>>I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a return.
>>>I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without any
>>>HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know why
>>>this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>James,
>>>>
>>>>Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Rodolfo
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>Behalf Of Jeff Odell
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>James,
>>>>
>>>>I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
>>>>menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
>>>>(my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
>>>>box).
>>>>
>>>>I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
>>>>can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
>>>>need me to take a look.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff
>>>>
>>>>On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>James,
>>>>>
>>>>>It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
>>>>>certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an
>>>
>>>example
>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>>have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and
>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>>sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>>>>>
>>>>>However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
>>>>>HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
>>>>>Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
>>>>
>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>>facilitate the parallel audio.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Rodolfo,
>>>>>
>>>>>I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
>>>>>ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>>hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
>>>>>optical means via the receiver?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you again for your email analysis.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
>>>>
>>>>one,
>>>>
>>>>>>but here it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
>>>>>
>>>>>scaler
>>>>>
>>>>>>have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
>>>>>>image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
>>>>>
>>>>>would
>>>>>
>>>>>>give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
>>>>>
>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>>your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
>>>>>>Video part:
>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>>Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
>>>>>
>>>>>not,
>>>>>
>>>>>>and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
>>>>
>>>>(and
>>>>
>>>>>>add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
>>>>
>>>>enough
>>>>
>>>>>>inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
>>>>>
>>>>>directly
>>>>>
>>>>>>to the display's HDMI input.
>>>>>>Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
>>>>>>HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
>>>>>>connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
>>>>
>>>>be
>>>>
>>>>>>bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
>>>>>>upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
>>>>>
>>>>>for
>>>>>
>>>>>>the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
>>>>>>underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
>>>>
>>>>going
>>>>
>>>>>>to get into which unit does what best.
>>>>>>To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
>>>>>>options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
>>>>>>receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
>>>>>
>>>>>you
>>>>>
>>>>>>could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
>>>>>
>>>>>"in
>>>>>
>>>>>>theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
>>>>
>>>>Tivo
>>>>
>>>>>or
>>>>>
>>>>>>from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
>>>>
>>>>doing
>>>>
>>>>>>upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>spec, not a magazine review).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
>>>>>>better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
>>>>>
>>>>>30,
>>>>>
>>>>>>and that is not my intention on this email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Audio part:
>>>>>>----------------
>>>>>>I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
>>>>>
>>>>>audio
>>>>>
>>>>>>from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
>>>>>>second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
>>>>
>>>>cannot
>>>>
>>>>>>use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
>>>>
>>>>connections,
>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>>would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
>>>>>
>>>>>hi-bit
>>>>>
>>>>>>soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
>>>>>
>>>>>In
>>>>>
>>>>>>addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
>>>>>>mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
>>>>>
>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>>the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
>>>>>>decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
>>>>>>video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
>>>>
>>>>receiver
>>>>
>>>>>>"when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
>>>>>
>>>>>such
>>>>>
>>>>>>case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
>>>>>>months (just kidding).
>>>>>>However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
>>>>>
>>>>>before
>>>>>
>>>>>>assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
>>>>>>HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
>>>>
>>>>using
>>>>
>>>>>>short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
>>>>>>inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
>>>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>>>video and audio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Alternative:
>>>>>>----------------
>>>>>>There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
>>>>
>>>>HDMI
>>>>
>>>>>>(your case);
>>>>>>One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
>>>>>>You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
>>>>>
>>>>>option.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
>>>>>
>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>>the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
>>>>>
>>>>>operated
>>>>>
>>>>>>from the same switcher.
>>>>>>But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
>>>>>>problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
>>>>>>having no switchers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Best Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>>Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>>Subject: HD Hookup
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
>>>>>>LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
>>>>>>Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
>>>>>>DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
>>>>>>Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
>>>>>>7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
>>>>>>Monster HTPS 7000
>>>>>>Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
>>>>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>>technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
>>>>>>possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Gee wiz... how soon I forget...

Did a calibration for a new 1080p Sharp LCD flat with a the BH100 and it
would not allow 1080p...

It is either the player or the display

Richard Fisher
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James Healy wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Once the Bh100 booted up I then connected it to the DVDO Vp30, The LG banner
> came on the screen but all the controls accept the power button would not
> work.
>
> If their is a HDMI impartibility issue then what? Of course I am the first
> one to have this problem with Anchor Bay(DVDO). They said maybe a firmware
> update may help. May?? The player has been out months and the DVDO hardware
> is pretty popular. Why I am the first one with the problem is beyond me.
> Thanks
>
>
> On 8/28/07 4:53 PM, "Jeff Odell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Once you are booted up can you connect the bh100? I suspect a HDMI
>>incompatability
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>On 8/28/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Rodolfo, Jeff.
>>>
>>>Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem. I
>>>have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player connected,
>>>the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".
>>>
>>>I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a return.
>>>I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without any
>>>HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know why
>>>this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>James,
>>>>
>>>>Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Rodolfo
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>Behalf Of Jeff Odell
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>James,
>>>>
>>>>I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
>>>>menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
>>>>(my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
>>>>box).
>>>>
>>>>I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
>>>>can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
>>>>need me to take a look.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff
>>>>
>>>>On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>James,
>>>>>
>>>>>It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
>>>>>certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an
>>>
>>>example
>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>>have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and
>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>>sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>>>>>
>>>>>However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
>>>>>HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
>>>>>Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
>>>>
>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>>facilitate the parallel audio.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Rodolfo,
>>>>>
>>>>>I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
>>>>>ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>>>hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
>>>>>optical means via the receiver?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you again for your email analysis.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
>>>>
>>>>one,
>>>>
>>>>>>but here it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
>>>>>
>>>>>scaler
>>>>>
>>>>>>have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
>>>>>>image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
>>>>>
>>>>>would
>>>>>
>>>>>>give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
>>>>>
>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>>your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
>>>>>>Video part:
>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>>Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
>>>>>
>>>>>not,
>>>>>
>>>>>>and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
>>>>
>>>>(and
>>>>
>>>>>>add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
>>>>
>>>>enough
>>>>
>>>>>>inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
>>>>>
>>>>>directly
>>>>>
>>>>>>to the display's HDMI input.
>>>>>>Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
>>>>>>HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
>>>>>>connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
>>>>
>>>>be
>>>>
>>>>>>bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
>>>>>>upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
>>>>>
>>>>>for
>>>>>
>>>>>>the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
>>>>>>underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
>>>>
>>>>going
>>>>
>>>>>>to get into which unit does what best.
>>>>>>To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
>>>>>>options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
>>>>>>receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
>>>>>
>>>>>you
>>>>>
>>>>>>could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
>>>>>
>>>>>"in
>>>>>
>>>>>>theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
>>>>
>>>>Tivo
>>>>
>>>>>or
>>>>>
>>>>>>from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
>>>>
>>>>doing
>>>>
>>>>>>upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>spec, not a magazine review).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
>>>>>>better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
>>>>>
>>>>>30,
>>>>>
>>>>>>and that is not my intention on this email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Audio part:
>>>>>>----------------
>>>>>>I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
>>>>>
>>>>>audio
>>>>>
>>>>>>from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
>>>>>>second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
>>>>
>>>>cannot
>>>>
>>>>>>use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
>>>>
>>>>connections,
>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>>would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
>>>>>
>>>>>hi-bit
>>>>>
>>>>>>soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
>>>>>
>>>>>In
>>>>>
>>>>>>addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
>>>>>>mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
>>>>>
>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>>the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
>>>>>>decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
>>>>>>video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
>>>>
>>>>receiver
>>>>
>>>>>>"when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
>>>>>
>>>>>such
>>>>>
>>>>>>case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
>>>>>>months (just kidding).
>>>>>>However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
>>>>>
>>>>>before
>>>>>
>>>>>>assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
>>>>>>HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
>>>>
>>>>using
>>>>
>>>>>>short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
>>>>>>inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
>>>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>>>video and audio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Alternative:
>>>>>>----------------
>>>>>>There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
>>>>
>>>>HDMI
>>>>
>>>>>>(your case);
>>>>>>One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
>>>>>>You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
>>>>>
>>>>>option.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
>>>>>
>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>>the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
>>>>>
>>>>>operated
>>>>>
>>>>>>from the same switcher.
>>>>>>But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
>>>>>>problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
>>>>>>having no switchers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Best Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>>Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>>Subject: HD Hookup
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
>>>>>>LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
>>>>>>Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
>>>>>>DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
>>>>>>Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
>>>>>>7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
>>>>>>Monster HTPS 7000
>>>>>>Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
>>>>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>>technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
>>>>>>possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that
>>>>
>>>>same
>>>>
>>>>>>day) send an email to:
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>>>>
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Richard,

Isn't that the point of purchasing a scaler? Am I missing something?


On 8/28/07 8:38 PM, "Richard Fisher" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> James,
>
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>
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> James Healy wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Once the Bh100 booted up I then connected it to the DVDO Vp30, The LG banner
>> came on the screen but all the controls accept the power button would not
>> work.
>>
>> If their is a HDMI impartibility issue then what? Of course I am the first
>> one to have this problem with Anchor Bay(DVDO). They said maybe a firmware
>> update may help. May?? The player has been out months and the DVDO hardware
>> is pretty popular. Why I am the first one with the problem is beyond me.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/07 4:53 PM, "Jeff Odell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Once you are booted up can you connect the bh100? I suspect a HDMI
>>> incompatability
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On 8/28/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Rodolfo, Jeff.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem. I
>>>> have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player connected,
>>>> the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".
>>>>
>>>> I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a return.
>>>> I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without
>>>> any
>>>> HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know why
>>>> this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> James,
>>>>>
>>>>> Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rodolfo
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>> Behalf Of Jeff Odell
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> James,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
>>>>> menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
>>>>> (my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
>>>>> box).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
>>>>> can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
>>>>> need me to take a look.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
>>>>>> certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an
>>>>
>>>> example
>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>> have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and
>>>>
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>> parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
>>>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>> sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
>>>>>> HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
>>>>>> Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
>>>>>
>>>>> would
>>>>>
>>>>>> facilitate the parallel audio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rodolfo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
>>>>>> ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device
>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>>> hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
>>>>>> optical means via the receiver?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you again for your email analysis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>> I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
>>>>>
>>>>> one,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> but here it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> scaler
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
>>>>>>> image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
>>>>>>> Video part:
>>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>>> Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
>>>>>
>>>>> (and
>>>>>
>>>>>>> add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
>>>>>
>>>>> enough
>>>>>
>>>>>>> inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
>>>>>>
>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to the display's HDMI input.
>>>>>>> Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
>>>>>>> HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
>>>>>>> connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>>> bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
>>>>>>> upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
>>>>>>> underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
>>>>>
>>>>> going
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to get into which unit does what best.
>>>>>>> To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
>>>>>>> options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
>>>>>>> receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
>>>>>
>>>>> Tivo
>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
>>>>>
>>>>> doing
>>>>>
>>>>>>> upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> spec, not a magazine review).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
>>>>>>> better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 30,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and that is not my intention on this email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Audio part:
>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>> I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
>>>>>>
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
>>>>>>> second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
>>>>>
>>>>> cannot
>>>>>
>>>>>>> use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
>>>>>
>>>>> connections,
>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi-bit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
>>>>>>> mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
>>>>>>> decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
>>>>>>> video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
>>>>>
>>>>> receiver
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> such
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
>>>>>>> months (just kidding).
>>>>>>> However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
>>>>>>> HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
>>>>>
>>>>> using
>>>>>
>>>>>>> short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
>>>>>>> inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>>> video and audio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternative:
>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>> There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
>>>>>
>>>>> HDMI
>>>>>
>>>>>>> (your case);
>>>>>>> One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
>>>>>>> You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
>>>>>>
>>>>>> operated
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the same switcher.
>>>>>>> But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
>>>>>>> problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
>>>>>>> having no switchers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
>>>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>>> Subject: HD Hookup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
>>>>>>> LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
>>>>>>> Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
>>>>>>> DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
>>>>>>> Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
>>>>>>> 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
>>>>>>> Monster HTPS 7000
>>>>>>> Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
>>>>>>> possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Plus I also have a HDMI connection for my Direct TV HD Tivo. How else would
I hook this system up? The Sharp LC-45gd4u only has one HDMI connection.


On 8/28/07 8:38 PM, "Richard Fisher" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> James,
>
> Why do you want to run the LG into the scaler?
>
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> James Healy wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Once the Bh100 booted up I then connected it to the DVDO Vp30, The LG banner
>> came on the screen but all the controls accept the power button would not
>> work.
>>
>> If their is a HDMI impartibility issue then what? Of course I am the first
>> one to have this problem with Anchor Bay(DVDO). They said maybe a firmware
>> update may help. May?? The player has been out months and the DVDO hardware
>> is pretty popular. Why I am the first one with the problem is beyond me.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/07 4:53 PM, "Jeff Odell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Once you are booted up can you connect the bh100? I suspect a HDMI
>>> incompatability
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On 8/28/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Rodolfo, Jeff.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem. I
>>>> have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player connected,
>>>> the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".
>>>>
>>>> I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a return.
>>>> I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without
>>>> any
>>>> HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know why
>>>> this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> James,
>>>>>
>>>>> Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rodolfo
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>> Behalf Of Jeff Odell
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> James,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
>>>>> menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
>>>>> (my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
>>>>> box).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
>>>>> can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
>>>>> need me to take a look.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
>>>>>> certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an
>>>>
>>>> example
>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>> have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and
>>>>
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>> parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
>>>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>> sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
>>>>>> HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
>>>>>> Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
>>>>>
>>>>> would
>>>>>
>>>>>> facilitate the parallel audio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rodolfo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
>>>>>> ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device
>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>>> hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
>>>>>> optical means via the receiver?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you again for your email analysis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>> I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
>>>>>
>>>>> one,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> but here it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> scaler
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
>>>>>>> image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
>>>>>>> Video part:
>>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>>> Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
>>>>>
>>>>> (and
>>>>>
>>>>>>> add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
>>>>>
>>>>> enough
>>>>>
>>>>>>> inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
>>>>>>
>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to the display's HDMI input.
>>>>>>> Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
>>>>>>> HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
>>>>>>> connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>>> bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
>>>>>>> upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
>>>>>>> underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
>>>>>
>>>>> going
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to get into which unit does what best.
>>>>>>> To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
>>>>>>> options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
>>>>>>> receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
>>>>>
>>>>> Tivo
>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
>>>>>
>>>>> doing
>>>>>
>>>>>>> upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> spec, not a magazine review).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
>>>>>>> better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 30,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and that is not my intention on this email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Audio part:
>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>> I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
>>>>>>
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
>>>>>>> second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
>>>>>
>>>>> cannot
>>>>>
>>>>>>> use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
>>>>>
>>>>> connections,
>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi-bit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
>>>>>>> mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
>>>>>>> decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
>>>>>>> video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
>>>>>
>>>>> receiver
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> such
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
>>>>>>> months (just kidding).
>>>>>>> However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
>>>>>>> HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
>>>>>
>>>>> using
>>>>>
>>>>>>> short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
>>>>>>> inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>>> video and audio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternative:
>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>> There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
>>>>>
>>>>> HDMI
>>>>>
>>>>>>> (your case);
>>>>>>> One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
>>>>>>> You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
>>>>>>
>>>>>> operated
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the same switcher.
>>>>>>> But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
>>>>>>> problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
>>>>>>> having no switchers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
>>>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>>> Subject: HD Hookup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
>>>>>>> LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
>>>>>>> Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
>>>>>>> DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
>>>>>>> Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
>>>>>>> 7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
>>>>>>> Monster HTPS 7000
>>>>>>> Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
>>>>>>> possible? Thanks in advance.
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first and foremost I did not read Rodolfo's reply and am merely replying
to a technical problem...

> Isn't that the point of purchasing a scaler? Am I missing something?

The historical purpose of a scaler is to convert a source to the native
pixel matrix of the display which with the right display will also
bypass the internal scaler.

So the first requirement is your display allows bypassing of the
internal scaler. This is determined by feeding it a pixel map, burst
pattern, to see if it will do that.

The point of purchasing a scaler is to bypass the internal scaler on
your display because it is of poor quality.

Things change though and while there was a huge outcry for scaling SD
3-5 years ago these days that is not much of a problem and you would
have to be one nit picky videophile to justify the expense.

A note to all: don't take the conventional thought we discussed way back
when and transfer it to current product.

There are other applications for scalers typically related to fixing a
display problem, Lumagen real popular for that, or feed a display with
an oddball pixel matrix such as 1366X768, 1024X1024, 1280X1080,
1400X1050... Some use a scaler as an A/V switching hub or to fix lip
sync problems...

In this case your best image with HD disc would come from feeding your
display 1080p... but alas you have a handshake problem as I
understand... A scaler won't fix that either, only firmware from LG or Sharp

Key question here as you worry about all this performance stuff... how
close are you sitting to this 45" display?

Richard Fisher
ISF and HAA certified
HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php

James Healy wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Richard,
>
> Isn't that the point of purchasing a scaler? Am I missing something?
>
>
> On 8/28/07 8:38 PM, "Richard Fisher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>James,
>>
>>Why do you want to run the LG into the scaler?
>>
>>Richard Fisher
>>ISF and HAA certified
>>HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
>>Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>>
>>James Healy wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Once the Bh100 booted up I then connected it to the DVDO Vp30, The LG banner
>>>came on the screen but all the controls accept the power button would not
>>>work.
>>>
>>>If their is a HDMI impartibility issue then what? Of course I am the first
>>>one to have this problem with Anchor Bay(DVDO). They said maybe a firmware
>>>update may help. May?? The player has been out months and the DVDO hardware
>>>is pretty popular. Why I am the first one with the problem is beyond me.
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>On 8/28/07 4:53 PM, "Jeff Odell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Once you are booted up can you connect the bh100? I suspect a HDMI
>>>>incompatability
>>>>
>>>>Jeff
>>>>
>>>>On 8/28/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Rodolfo, Jeff.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks again for your input. It seems I uncovered an additional problem. I
>>>>>have a DVDO VP 30 scaler, with The LG BH100 Blue Ray/HD player connected,
>>>>>the BH100 will not start up/initialize. It keeps saying "Please Wait".
>>>>>
>>>>>I called LG and they know absolutely nothing and wanted to set up a return.
>>>>>I then disconnected the LG BH100 from The VP30 and powered it up without
>>>>>any
>>>>>HDMI connections and it started right up. Anchor Bay(DVDO) did not know why
>>>>>this was occuring and blamed it on the Blue Ray player.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8/28/07 12:29 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Page 18 of the LG manual. Set the SPDIF to Bitstream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rodolfo
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>>Behalf Of Jeff Odell
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:19 PM
>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>>Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think Rodolfo is right. I seem to remember a setting in the BH100
>>>>>>menu that I had to enable to get sound enabled over the HDMI connector
>>>>>>(my dolby digital output over the legacy connector worked out of the
>>>>>>box).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am leaving on a (very) short notice business trip in an hour so I
>>>>>>can't look at my settings until Thursday night. Let me know if you
>>>>>>need me to take a look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8/28/07, Rodolfo La Maestra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It could be that some devices have the restriction by design, but that is
>>>>>>>certainly not a generic restriction "for all HDMI devices". As an
>>>>>
>>>>>example
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>have the SA 83000 DVR connected via HDMI to the scaler/projector, and
>>>>>
>>>>>with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>parallel coax digital connection to the Theta Casablanca Pre/Pro. Video
>>>>>>
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sent to the scaler, audio is sent to the pre/pro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>However, the SA8300 has an audio setting by menu that has
>>>>>>>HDMI/DolbyDigital/Other in the options, and I chose DolbyDigital for the
>>>>>>>Theta. Check the manuals and menus and look for an audio setting that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>facilitate the parallel audio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>>>Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: HD Hookup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rodolfo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hooked up the items as you said but cannot get audio out of the LG Blue
>>>>>>>ray and everything else I hooked via HDMI. Could it be that if a device
>>>>>
>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>hooked up by HDMI that this disengages any ability of receiving audio by
>>>>>>>optical means via the receiver?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you again for your email analysis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 8/27/07 2:50 PM, "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>>>I was holding my response just in case someone would provide you with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>one,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but here it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Without going into exactly how many HDMI connections your display and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>scaler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have, and assuming your HDMI connections supply you with a better video
>>>>>>>>image than component analog, which not always is the case but at least
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>give you HDCP compliance, you would obviously need to split your video
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>your audio paths, so "in general", I would do the following:
>>>>>>>>Video part:
>>>>>>>>---------------
>>>>>>>>Because all of your video sources have HDMI outs, your AV Receiver does
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>not,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and your scaler does, I would use the scaler as video brain/switcher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>add a separate HDMI switcher if the scaler eventually does not have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>enough
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>inputs for expansion), and have the HDMI output from the scaler go
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>directly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to the display's HDMI input.
>>>>>>>>Another possibility, if the TV has enough HDMI inputs or if you get into
>>>>>>>>HDMI/HDCP handshake problems by using the scaler or/and switcher, is to
>>>>>>>>connect the HDMI sources directly to the TV, but on doing so you would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bypassing some scaler functionality you might need, such as better
>>>>>>>>upconverting SD, or better deinterlacing, for example. You already paid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the scaler so not using the unit might no be a good idea, unless is an
>>>>>>>>underperformer compared to the other newer HW you have, and I am not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>going
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to get into which unit does what best.
>>>>>>>>To what I can recall the LG Universal player has only 24fps and 30fps
>>>>>>>>options on the 1080p output (not 60fps), and your LCD 1080p might not
>>>>>>>>receive either of those frame rates, so 1080i might be the only setting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>could use from the LG Blu-laser playback (thru the scaler or directly).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Additionally, the scaler (as a video switcher brain in the path) should
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>theory" provide you with a better HD upconversion of SD tuned by the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tivo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from regular DVD (although the LG player should be given a chance of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>upconversion before assuming that is worst; your eyes should decide, not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>spec, not a magazine review).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In order to determine which other options you have for a "theoretical"
>>>>>>>>better performance I need to get deeper on the specs of the LG and DVDO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>30,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and that is not my intention on this email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Audio part:
>>>>>>>>----------------
>>>>>>>>I would use the A/V Receiver as audio switcher/control brain receiving
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>audio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from the LG and Tivo via their coax digital connections (or optical as
>>>>>>>>second choice), and ignore their HDMI audio capabilities, which you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>cannot
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>use because of the lack of HDMI input on the receiver.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If the LG and the receiver have separate 6-8 discrete analog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>connections,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>would use them to been able to playback on the AV Receiver those disc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>hi-bit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>soundtracks decoded by the Blu-laser player (if having such capability).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>addition, I would still use the parallel legacy digital audio connection
>>>>>>>>mentioned above from the LG player to the AV Receiver to at least gain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the 640 KHz upgraded playback (rather than 384 KHz) from the player's DD
>>>>>>>>decoder, as a second route from the Blu-laser player.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would not be worried about not having a full HDMI network of audio and
>>>>>>>>video due to your receiver limitation, but I would upgrade the AV
>>>>>>
>>>>>>receiver
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"when AND IF is time to upgrade, but not for the HDMI-lack reason", in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>such
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>case I would look for a HDMI 1.3a/b, or maybe 1.54x within the next few
>>>>>>>>months (just kidding).
>>>>>>>>However, when/if you upgrade, test the HDMI network thru the receiver
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>before
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>assuming video and audio are better thru HDMI. Mixing equipment with
>>>>>>>>HDMI/HDCP connections is still not a perfect world (just to be nice with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>mess) and you should be prepared to fall back to legacy connections
>>>>>>
>>>>>>using
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>short paths for video and audio if the HDMI connections cause more
>>>>>>>>inconvenience/disruption than the inconvenience of two different paths
>>>>>>
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>video and audio.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Alternative:
>>>>>>>>----------------
>>>>>>>>There are some HDMI switchers that converts the audio obtained from HDMI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>legacy coax/optical for parallel use to the equipment not suited with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HDMI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(your case);
>>>>>>>>One example is: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=3099
>>>>>>>>You might want something simpler but this gives you the track of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The unit could be used to send the video to the display (and/or scaler)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the switcher via HDMI and the audio as legacy to the receiver, both
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>operated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from the same switcher.
>>>>>>>>But frankly, the money you spend on additional components to solve your
>>>>>>>>problem could better be used to eventually upgrade the AV Receiver and
>>>>>>>>having no switchers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Best Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rodolfo La Maestra
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>>>>>>>>Behalf Of James Healy
>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:21 AM
>>>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>>>>>>>>Subject: HD Hookup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sharp LCD 1080P TV(HDMI)
>>>>>>>>LG BlueRay/HD DVD(HDMI)
>>>>>>>>Direct TV HD TIVO(HDMI)
>>>>>>>>DVDO VP30 (HDMI)
>>>>>>>>Marantz SR 9300 (without DVI or HDMI connections)
>>>>>>>>7.1 Surround system with subwoofers
>>>>>>>>Monster HTPS 7000
>>>>>>>>Monster AVS 2000 line conditioner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Could someone advise me on what the best way to hook this system up with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>technically deficient AV system to still get the best sound and video
>>>>>>>>possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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