HDDVD and BlueRay players

Started by jmbeam Nov 26, 2007 12 posts
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#1
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I was wondering if any other members have the LG BH100 combo HDDVD/Blueray
player and have had the same issues as myself. There are certain BlueRay or
HDDVD's that this unit will not play. It is extremely frustrating to rent a
disc on a Fri night then come home and put it in the player and nothing
happens. I have had the player for almost a year and LG still says they are
aware of the problem but have not provided any firmware to correct it. How
can they get away with a selling a unit like this? After the non existent
support I have received I would never purchase one of their products again.



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I was wondering if any other members have the LG BH100 combo HDDVD/Blueray
player and have had the same issues as myself. There are certain BlueRay or
HDDVD's that this unit will not play. It is extremely frustrating to rent a
disc on a Fri night then come home and put it in the player and nothing
happens. I have had the player for almost a year and LG still says they are
aware of the problem but have not provided any firmware to correct it.How
can they get away with a selling a unit like this? After the non existent
support I have received I would never purchase one of their products again.


> From: Shane Sturgeon <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: HDTV Magazine Tips List <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:49:26 -0500
> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: New Article: Which is More Consumer Friendly: HD DVD or Blu-ray?
>
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> It wasn't said in so many words, but my finding is that the picture
> quality is equal. And I have found no side-by-side comparisons in my
> research that hint (or prove) otherwise. Yes, Blu-ray has a higher data
> rate, but I have not personally seen that reflected in better
> video/audio quality.
>
> Note that there are many points I bring up in the article that are
> "personal" in nature. In other words, highly subjective. If you can tell
> a difference in audio/video quality, and it's worth the premium ... then
> by all means do not let me deter you from investing in what you deem the
> better format.
>
> Shane Sturgeon
>
>
> Hugh Campbell wrote:
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>> Shane, I read your article and it appears you left out one
>> thing....which one has the best picture quality?
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "HDTV Magazine"
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>> Subject: New Article: Which is More Consumer Friendly: HD DVD or Blu-ray?
>>
>>
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>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> A new article has been posted to the HDTV Magazine website:
>>>
>>> Which is More Consumer Friendly: HD DVD or Blu-ray?
>>> by Shane Sturgeon
>>>
>>> Excerpt:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> No, this is not the standard HD DVD vs. Blu-ray article that you may
>>> be used to reading. I am not declaring a &quot;winner&quot; because I
>>> think we are at a point now where neither camp is going away.
>>> Instead, this article explains which format I believe is the better
>>> choice for the consumer (you) this holiday season. Could that change
>>> a year from now? Sure, but I want to help you decide what to buy this
>>> year.
>>>
>>> This article is not written in an attempt to convince anyone who has
>>> already made an investment one way or the other, for that is an
>>> almost impossible feat. It was written for those that are still
>>> &quot;on the fence&quot;, as they say. It is for those who are either
>>> undecided, or are waiting to see which one will come out ahead (or
>>> which will be first to waive the white flag). It's time to hop down
>>> off of that fence.
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Full Article:
>>> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/20 ... the_co.php
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>>
>>> -- Dale & Shane
>>> HDTV Magazine
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> From: James Healy <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: HDTV Magazine Tips List <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:19:12 -0500
> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List <[email protected]>
> Subject: HDDVD and BlueRay players
>
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>
> I was wondering if any other members have the LG BH100 combo HDDVD/Blueray
> player and have had the same issues as myself. There are certain BlueRay or
> HDDVD's that this unit will not play. It is extremely frustrating to rent a
> disc on a Fri night then come home and put it in the player and nothing
> happens. I have had the player for almost a year and LG still says they are
> aware of the problem but have not provided any firmware to correct it. How
> can they get away with a selling a unit like this? After the non existent
> support I have received I would never purchase one of their products again.
>
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#3
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James,

I have this player and haven't found any discs that do not play at
all. I have installed the latest firmware from the LG website and
this resolved the minor issues I have found.

There is one disc that I have not gone back to verify that it plays
post upgrade -- I had problems with layer 2 of the HDDVD "300". The
playback just froze after the layer change occurred.

Jeff

On 11/26/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> I was wondering if any other members have the LG BH100 combo HDDVD/Blueray
> player and have had the same issues as myself. There are certain BlueRay or
> HDDVD's that this unit will not play. It is extremely frustrating to rent a
> disc on a Fri night then come home and put it in the player and nothing
> happens. I have had the player for almost a year and LG still says they are
> aware of the problem but have not provided any firmware to correct it. How
> can they get away with a selling a unit like this? After the non existent
> support I have received I would never purchase one of their products again.
>
>
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#4
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Jeff,

I believe the many discs that I had that would not play were from Fox, Some
of the movies that would not play were, Fantastic Four Silver Surfer,
Vacancy,, 28 weeks later, Disturbia. Rent one of these.

LG continues to say that they are aware of the problem. How long should a
manufacturer take to fix a known problem with their product? Firmware update
does not address these issues


> From: Jeff Odell <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: HDTV Magazine Tips List <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:25 -0800
> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: HDDVD and BlueRay players
>
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>
> James,
>
> I have this player and haven't found any discs that do not play at
> all. I have installed the latest firmware from the LG website and
> this resolved the minor issues I have found.
>
> There is one disc that I have not gone back to verify that it plays
> post upgrade -- I had problems with layer 2 of the HDDVD "300". The
> playback just froze after the layer change occurred.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 11/26/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I was wondering if any other members have the LG BH100 combo HDDVD/Blueray
>> player and have had the same issues as myself. There are certain BlueRay or
>> HDDVD's that this unit will not play. It is extremely frustrating to rent a
>> disc on a Fri night then come home and put it in the player and nothing
>> happens. I have had the player for almost a year and LG still says they are
>> aware of the problem but have not provided any firmware to correct it. How
>> can they get away with a selling a unit like this? After the non existent
>> support I have received I would never purchase one of their products again.
>>
>>
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#5
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James,

I will check out those titles when I get a chance to see if I have the
same problems.

Jeff

On 11/26/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> Jeff,
>
> I believe the many discs that I had that would not play were from Fox, Some
> of the movies that would not play were, Fantastic Four Silver Surfer,
> Vacancy,, 28 weeks later, Disturbia. Rent one of these.
>
> LG continues to say that they are aware of the problem. How long should a
> manufacturer take to fix a known problem with their product? Firmware update
> does not address these issues
>
>
> > From: Jeff Odell <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: HDTV Magazine Tips List <[email protected]>
> > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:41:25 -0800
> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: HDDVD and BlueRay players
> >
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > James,
> >
> > I have this player and haven't found any discs that do not play at
> > all. I have installed the latest firmware from the LG website and
> > this resolved the minor issues I have found.
> >
> > There is one disc that I have not gone back to verify that it plays
> > post upgrade -- I had problems with layer 2 of the HDDVD "300". The
> > playback just froze after the layer change occurred.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On 11/26/07, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I was wondering if any other members have the LG BH100 combo HDDVD/Blueray
> >> player and have had the same issues as myself. There are certain BlueRay or
> >> HDDVD's that this unit will not play. It is extremely frustrating to rent a
> >> disc on a Fri night then come home and put it in the player and nothing
> >> happens. I have had the player for almost a year and LG still says they are
> >> aware of the problem but have not provided any firmware to correct it. How
> >> can they get away with a selling a unit like this? After the non existent
> >> support I have received I would never purchase one of their products again.
> >>
> >>
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Technology always improves with time, and very quickly in the electronics
industry. Blu-ray and HD-DVD will both become obsolete and have to be
replaced. This is good for consumers, but the transitions are always painful. The
consumers want a long time between transitions.

HD-DVD is a small step forward; Blu-ray is a bigger step forward. Blu-ray
will have a longer lifetime, and so is what consumers really want. All of the
arguments in favor of HD-DVD are shortsighted.

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A slightly different view, but I like the concept ... let's run with it.
Blu-ray only extends that transition if it offers something more than HD
DVD ... what is that something more? If you're talking about higher
capacity and higher bitrate, how does that extend the transition to the
"next" technology if the typical consumer gains nothing from it? Why not
go with the less expensive transition?

Those were all more or less rhetorical questions, by the way ... but
here's one that's not:

How will selecting Blu-ray extend the transition time to which you are
referring?

Shane Sturgeon



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> Technology always improves with time, and very quickly in the electronics
> industry. Blu-ray and HD-DVD will both become obsolete and have to be
> replaced. This is good for consumers, but the transitions are always painful. The
> consumers want a long time between transitions.
>
> HD-DVD is a small step forward; Blu-ray is a bigger step forward. Blu-ray
> will have a longer lifetime, and so is what consumers really want. All of the
> arguments in favor of HD-DVD are shortsighted.
>
> Ken KQ6QV
>
>
>
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#8
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If Blu-ray wins the format war, product lifetimes will be longer,
benefitting consumers.

The parallels with the VCR wars are instructive. Note the effective
vertical resolutions in lines:
VHS = 250
Betamax = 400
Super VHS = 400

The VHS marketeers won the war, but the real losers were the consumers. In
only a few years Super VHS (SVHS) came out. SVHS was a mid-life product
meant to extend the life of the VHS product line. Many consumers replaced their
VHS units with SVHS units. So while VHS was cheaper than Betamax, the cost
of VHS plus SVHS was greater. I remember sending tapes to relatives, who
could not play them because I forgot to record them in “standard VHS mode”.

If HD-DVD wins the war, you can expect a “mid-life kicker” to appear in a
couple years. Toshiba might already be working on it. It will probably have
all the capability of Blu-ray.

Toshiba is playing a very cynical game. They believe that by hooking
customers with a low price they will be trapping them into buying more hardware
later on, yielding Toshiba a greater profit. They see the VCR war outcome as
proof that they will succeed. So while most people see this war as “Blu-ray
versus HD-DVD”, the true war here is “Toshiba versus Consumers”. I know who I
am rooting for.

VHS won because VCRs were something new, regarded as an unnecessary luxury
item. People did not fully see how the VCR would fit into their lives. So
out of caution they chose the cheapest units. But the DVD is not a new
product. People understand it. Thus there is hope that they will not be duped by
Toshiba.

Ken KQ6QV




In a message dated 11/26/2007 2:58:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
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A slightly different view, but I like the concept ... let's run with it.
Blu-ray only extends that transition if it offers something more than HD
DVD ... what is that something more? If you're talking about higher
capacity and higher bitrate, how does that extend the transition to the
"next" technology if the typical consumer gains nothing from it? Why not
go with the less expensive transition?

Those were all more or less rhetorical questions, by the way ... but
here's one that's not:

How will selecting Blu-ray extend the transition time to which you are
referring?

Shane Sturgeon



[email protected] wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Technology always improves with time, and very quickly in the electronics
> industry. Blu-ray and HD-DVD will both become obsolete and have to be
> replaced. This is good for consumers, but the transitions are always
painful. The
> consumers want a long time between transitions.
>
> HD-DVD is a small step forward; Blu-ray is a bigger step forward.
Blu-ray
> will have a longer lifetime, and so is what consumers really want. All
of the
> arguments in favor of HD-DVD are shortsighted.
>
> Ken KQ6QV




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Perhaps I missed it ... How will selecting Blu-ray extend the transition
time to which you are referring any more than selecting HD DVD?

Thanks,

Shane Sturgeon



[email protected] wrote:
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>
> If Blu-ray wins the format war, product lifetimes will be longer,
> benefitting consumers.
>
> The parallels with the VCR wars are instructive. Note the effective
> vertical resolutions in lines:
> VHS = 250
> Betamax = 400
> Super VHS = 400
>
> The VHS marketeers won the war, but the real losers were the consumers. In
> only a few years Super VHS (SVHS) came out. SVHS was a mid-life product
> meant to extend the life of the VHS product line. Many consumers replaced their
> VHS units with SVHS units. So while VHS was cheaper than Betamax, the cost
> of VHS plus SVHS was greater. I remember sending tapes to relatives, who
> could not play them because I forgot to record them in “standard VHS mode”.
>
> If HD-DVD wins the war, you can expect a “mid-life kicker” to appear in a
> couple years. Toshiba might already be working on it. It will probably have
> all the capability of Blu-ray.
>
> Toshiba is playing a very cynical game. They believe that by hooking
> customers with a low price they will be trapping them into buying more hardware
> later on, yielding Toshiba a greater profit. They see the VCR war outcome as
> proof that they will succeed. So while most people see this war as “Blu-ray
> versus HD-DVD”, the true war here is “Toshiba versus Consumers”. I know who I
> am rooting for.
>
> VHS won because VCRs were something new, regarded as an unnecessary luxury
> item. People did not fully see how the VCR would fit into their lives. So
> out of caution they chose the cheapest units. But the DVD is not a new
> product. People understand it. Thus there is hope that they will not be duped by
> Toshiba.
>
> Ken KQ6QV
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2007 2:58:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> A slightly different view, but I like the concept ... let's run with it.
> Blu-ray only extends that transition if it offers something more than HD
> DVD ... what is that something more? If you're talking about higher
> capacity and higher bitrate, how does that extend the transition to the
> "next" technology if the typical consumer gains nothing from it? Why not
> go with the less expensive transition?
>
> Those were all more or less rhetorical questions, by the way ... but
> here's one that's not:
>
> How will selecting Blu-ray extend the transition time to which you are
> referring?
>
> Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Technology always improves with time, and very quickly in the electronics
>> industry. Blu-ray and HD-DVD will both become obsolete and have to be
>> replaced. This is good for consumers, but the transitions are always
>>
> painful. The
>
>> consumers want a long time between transitions.
>>
>> HD-DVD is a small step forward; Blu-ray is a bigger step forward.
>>
> Blu-ray
>
>> will have a longer lifetime, and so is what consumers really want. All
>>
> of the
>
>> arguments in favor of HD-DVD are shortsighted.
>>
>> Ken KQ6QV
>>
>
>
>
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Ken,

Before I weigh in here I must say that I always enjoy the wealth of
information that you have brought to the table over the years. I have
almost never disagreed with any of your posts....but I do find a few nits to
pick here.

Having sold VCR's during their hey-dey at both retail and wholesale
(manufacturers level in VCR and blank tape as well) I feel fairly qualified
to weigh in here. First price was not a deciding factor for most buyers in
the Beta vs VHS war. In fact when the HiFi units came out the Beta machines
were significantly cheaper than the fist generation or two of VHS HiFi
units. Toward the end of the battle VHS did have a slight price advantage
but the real stumbling block that retail customers griped about was the
difference in recording times using the standard length tapes. VHS had a
two hour recording time using the T-120 tapes which allowed the customers to
record a complete movie shown on network TV.

The extra resolution afforded by SVHS was nice, but at that time there was
very little source product that was much over 250 lines anyway other than
Laser Disc....and we know how well that went over (and yes I bought into
that format too and owned three different machines over years).

For what it is worth, I own both formats of High Definition disc and I
really don't see much difference between them. I personally think that
neither format is going to be a long term solution because I feel that while
Toshiba and Sony are butting heads we will find the computer camp getting
stronger which will eventually lead to downloaded product winning the format
war (this coming from a relatively computer savvy guy who has yet to
download any movies.

Just food for thought.

Mark Alford



On 11/26/07 7:08 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> If Blu-ray wins the format war, product lifetimes will be longer,
> benefitting consumers.
>
> The parallels with the VCR wars are instructive. Note the effective
> vertical resolutions in lines:
> VHS = 250
> Betamax = 400
> Super VHS = 400
>
> The VHS marketeers won the war, but the real losers were the consumers. In
> only a few years Super VHS (SVHS) came out. SVHS was a mid-life product
> meant to extend the life of the VHS product line. Many consumers replaced
> their
> VHS units with SVHS units. So while VHS was cheaper than Betamax, the cost
> of VHS plus SVHS was greater. I remember sending tapes to relatives, who
> could not play them because I forgot to record them in
#11
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I will assume you are asking how selecting Blu-ray will extend the product
lifetime. I never commented on the duration of a transition.

I am not sure. My crystal ball is a little cloudy. I have not thought much
about this, but off hand:
1. Maybe more special features will be added to DVDs.
2. Maybe resolution and motion will be represented better.
3. Maybe Super-HD will catch on. Maybe 3-D will catch on.
4. Maybe SACD-like audio will be added.
5. Maybe longer movies will be made.
6. Maybe two movies will come on a DVD.
7. Maybe a whole year of a TV series will fit on one or two DVDs.
Perhaps other readers can add to this. What I do know from the past is that
the concept “more is better” always prevails in the end.

Whichever format wins will be incorporated into computers, and computers can
always use more storage space. Computer manufacturers have stated clearly
which format ought to win.

Ken KQ6QV




In a message dated 11/26/2007 4:33:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
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Perhaps I missed it ... How will selecting Blu-ray extend the transition
time to which you are referring any more than selecting HD DVD?

Thanks,

Shane Sturgeon



[email protected] wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> If Blu-ray wins the format war, product lifetimes will be longer,
> benefitting consumers.
>
> The parallels with the VCR wars are instructive. Note the effective
> vertical resolutions in lines:
> VHS = 250
> Betamax = 400
> Super VHS = 400
>
> The VHS marketeers won the war, but the real losers were the consumers.
In
> only a few years Super VHS (SVHS) came out. SVHS was a mid-life product
> meant to extend the life of the VHS product line. Many consumers
replaced their
> VHS units with SVHS units. So while VHS was cheaper than Betamax, the
cost
> of VHS plus SVHS was greater. I remember sending tapes to relatives, who
> could not play them because I forgot to record them in “standard VHS mode”
.
>
> If HD-DVD wins the war, you can expect a “mid-life kicker” to appear in a

> couple years. Toshiba might already be working on it. It will probably
have
> all the capability of Blu-ray.
>
> Toshiba is playing a very cynical game. They believe that by hooking
> customers with a low price they will be trapping them into buying more
hardware
> later on, yielding Toshiba a greater profit. They see the VCR war outcome
as
> proof that they will succeed. So while most people see this war as “
Blu-ray
> versus HD-DVD”, the true war here is “Toshiba versus Consumers”. I know
who I
> am rooting for.
>
> VHS won because VCRs were something new, regarded as an unnecessary luxury

> item. People did not fully see how the VCR would fit into their lives.
So
> out of caution they chose the cheapest units. But the DVD is not a new
> product. People understand it. Thus there is hope that they will not be
duped by
> Toshiba.
>
> Ken KQ6QV
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2007 2:58:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
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>
> A slightly different view, but I like the concept ... let's run with it.
> Blu-ray only extends that transition if it offers something more than HD
> DVD ... what is that something more? If you're talking about higher
> capacity and higher bitrate, how does that extend the transition to the
> "next" technology if the typical consumer gains nothing from it? Why not
> go with the less expensive transition?
>
> Those were all more or less rhetorical questions, by the way ... but
> here's one that's not:
>
> How will selecting Blu-ray extend the transition time to which you are
> referring?
>
> Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
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>>
>> Technology always improves with time, and very quickly in the
electronics
>> industry. Blu-ray and HD-DVD will both become obsolete and have to be
>> replaced. This is good for consumers, but the transitions are always
>>
> painful. The
>
>> consumers want a long time between transitions.
>>
>> HD-DVD is a small step forward; Blu-ray is a bigger step forward.
>>
> Blu-ray
>
>> will have a longer lifetime, and so is what consumers really want. All
>>
> of the
>
>> arguments in favor of HD-DVD are shortsighted.
>>
>> Ken KQ6QV




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Mark,

I sure hope you are wrong about movie downloads, at least for the next
decade. Every time my internet connection slows down I think “Oh, no, somebody is
downloading a movie.” Will it be 8 times worse when HD hits the web?

If I may add to my previous list…
8. Maybe foreign language dubbing will be added.
9. Maybe 60 frames/second movies will catch on.

Ken KQ6QV




In a message dated 11/26/2007 5:01:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Ken,

Before I weigh in here I must say that I always enjoy the wealth of
information that you have brought to the table over the years. I have
almost never disagreed with any of your posts....but I do find a few nits to
pick here.

Having sold VCR's during their hey-dey at both retail and wholesale
(manufacturers level in VCR and blank tape as well) I feel fairly qualified
to weigh in here. First price was not a deciding factor for most buyers in
the Beta vs VHS war. In fact when the HiFi units came out the Beta machines
were significantly cheaper than the fist generation or two of VHS HiFi
units. Toward the end of the battle VHS did have a slight price advantage
but the real stumbling block that retail customers griped about was the
difference in recording times using the standard length tapes. VHS had a
two hour recording time using the T-120 tapes which allowed the customers to
record a complete movie shown on network TV.

The extra resolution afforded by SVHS was nice, but at that time there was
very little source product that was much over 250 lines anyway other than
Laser Disc....and we know how well that went over (and yes I bought into
that format too and owned three different machines over years).

For what it is worth, I own both formats of High Definition disc and I
really don't see much difference between them. I personally think that
neither format is going to be a long term solution because I feel that while
Toshiba and Sony are butting heads we will find the computer camp getting
stronger which will eventually lead to downloaded product winning the format
war (this coming from a relatively computer savvy guy who has yet to
download any movies.

Just food for thought.

Mark Alford




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