HDMI 1.3 on Sony Products

Started by dhancock Sep 26, 2006 3 posts
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#1
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Rodolpho,

Your (excellent) HDMI report says that Sony showed their Bravo line at
the 2006 with HDMI 1.3. Do you know to what extent (Deep Color, xvYCC,
etc) 1.3 is implemented there and to what extend 1.3 is in other Sony
lines (specifically their SXRD sets). There is some debate going on
about this in the AVS Forum and apparently Sony CSRs (on the phone) are
making odd statements about this (odd means that all Sony sets support
HDMI version 1.3).

Hope that you can clarify this.

Thanks


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#2
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Dave,

Thanks for your appreciation for my work.

There is nothing on the published specs on the available Sony products that
highlight the features you said (HDMI 1.3, Deep color, xvYCC international
standard, etc).

The Bravo line you mentioned is not from Sony, but from Premium
Distribution, which markets A/V products under the H&B brand.

Let us do some reasoning.

The HDMI 1.3 spec was released on June 22 (just 3 months ago):

http://www.hdmi.org/press/pr/pr_20060622.asp

The manufacturing of 1.3 compliant HDMI chips could only happen after that,
and it takes time, even to SI itself.

Next after that, products (TVs, etc) could only implement 1.3 features using
a 1.3 chip to receive the enhanced signals.

Specifically, the deep color and xvYCC color space international standard
features of 1.3 could be seen on a 1.3 compliant HDTV that has implemented
such features, but such image sources have to become available.

The PS3 announced later in November (if the wind blows in the right
direction) is expected to use 1.3, and other computer sources are among
those sources with such potential, no other consumer sources have
implemented such features but they are expected to gradually appear in the
market, not only for games and computers.

Sony introduced a prototype with such features, the 82" Bravia LCD panel, at
CES in Jan 06:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press ... index.html

But that does not mean that all the Bravias have it, nor the new SXRDs
(announced in June for fall availability); obviously a set released before
June 22 could not even have a 1.3 chip if the spec was just released that
day, it will take time for chips and products to appear.

On the personal tone, I do not know what the AVS forum says, I do not help
on the AVS forum any longer (for about 5/6 years already, back when it just
started) for personal reasons.

However, with patience and lots of time it might be a good source of
information on specific products when coming from the actual owners, weeding
out tons of opinion and personal attacks.

If I would be seriously looking into 1.3 capabilities and features, I would
not buy any product claiming 1.3 features that does not show it passed the
Simplay Lab tests, it is one tool one could have to be on the safe side.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra



P.S. my first name does not spell with "pho".


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Dave Hancock
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:54 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: HDMI 1.3 on Sony Products

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Rodolpho,

Your (excellent) HDMI report says that Sony showed their Bravo line at
the 2006 with HDMI 1.3. Do you know to what extent (Deep Color, xvYCC,
etc) 1.3 is implemented there and to what extend 1.3 is in other Sony
lines (specifically their SXRD sets). There is some debate going on
about this in the AVS Forum and apparently Sony CSRs (on the phone) are
making odd statements about this (odd means that all Sony sets support
HDMI version 1.3).

Hope that you can clarify this.

Thanks


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#3
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The 2nd gen HD DVD player from Toshiba (HD-XA2), due out in December,
will be 1.3.

Shane Sturgeon



Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
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>
> Dave,
>
> Thanks for your appreciation for my work.
>
> There is nothing on the published specs on the available Sony products that
> highlight the features you said (HDMI 1.3, Deep color, xvYCC international
> standard, etc).
>
> The Bravo line you mentioned is not from Sony, but from Premium
> Distribution, which markets A/V products under the H&B brand.
>
> Let us do some reasoning.
>
> The HDMI 1.3 spec was released on June 22 (just 3 months ago):
>
> http://www.hdmi.org/press/pr/pr_20060622.asp
>
> The manufacturing of 1.3 compliant HDMI chips could only happen after that,
> and it takes time, even to SI itself.
>
> Next after that, products (TVs, etc) could only implement 1.3 features using
> a 1.3 chip to receive the enhanced signals.
>
> Specifically, the deep color and xvYCC color space international standard
> features of 1.3 could be seen on a 1.3 compliant HDTV that has implemented
> such features, but such image sources have to become available.
>
> The PS3 announced later in November (if the wind blows in the right
> direction) is expected to use 1.3, and other computer sources are among
> those sources with such potential, no other consumer sources have
> implemented such features but they are expected to gradually appear in the
> market, not only for games and computers.
>
> Sony introduced a prototype with such features, the 82" Bravia LCD panel, at
> CES in Jan 06:
>
> http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press ... index.html
>
> But that does not mean that all the Bravias have it, nor the new SXRDs
> (announced in June for fall availability); obviously a set released before
> June 22 could not even have a 1.3 chip if the spec was just released that
> day, it will take time for chips and products to appear.
>
> On the personal tone, I do not know what the AVS forum says, I do not help
> on the AVS forum any longer (for about 5/6 years already, back when it just
> started) for personal reasons.
>
> However, with patience and lots of time it might be a good source of
> information on specific products when coming from the actual owners, weeding
> out tons of opinion and personal attacks.
>
> If I would be seriously looking into 1.3 capabilities and features, I would
> not buy any product claiming 1.3 features that does not show it passed the
> Simplay Lab tests, it is one tool one could have to be on the safe side.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
>
> P.S. my first name does not spell with "pho".
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Dave Hancock
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:54 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: HDMI 1.3 on Sony Products
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Rodolpho,
>
> Your (excellent) HDMI report says that Sony showed their Bravo line at
> the 2006 with HDMI 1.3. Do you know to what extent (Deep Color, xvYCC,
> etc) 1.3 is implemented there and to what extend 1.3 is in other Sony
> lines (specifically their SXRD sets). There is some debate going on
> about this in the AVS Forum and apparently Sony CSRs (on the phone) are
> making odd statements about this (odd means that all Sony sets support
> HDMI version 1.3).
>
> Hope that you can clarify this.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
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