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That may be correct at their option. Those HBO/Showtime like movies
typically do not have an afterlife in this country, anymore than the
networks' Movies of the Week do, though some distribution does take place
elsewhere in the world. But the point you make is noted and that is why I
said the "movies they buy." But I don't think you will see much encryption
of the Sopranos and other such productions. Even with their network exposure
they send things like Sopranos and Angels in America mini-series to DVD, but
not until they have rung everything they can out of them. All of these so
called premium channels are thought of in the industry as anything but
premium...they perform a service to the family who can buy no more
entertainment than what their very low cost niche markets and to start
encrypting them would be anathema to their business vision. I know this from
discussions with HBO management over the last 15 years. They went into HDTV
because New York City gave them a $50 million dollar tax break based on them
going into HDTV and staying in Manhattan as well. Yes, there were HD hereos
within their walls, but they were incentivised. New York wanted to be sure
they launched HDTV from NYC. They gave CBS the same deal when the eye was
threatening to pull out of the Big Apple. We really don't have a great first
rate television service, though I do think that PBS comes pretty close. But
to have a truly premium service that delivers the best there is in the world
to you as it is happening just doesn't exist. I think the audience for the
"best" is still a bit small, at least when calculated regionally. Globally
it may be large enough to warrant some infrastruture. Television has not
been considered until now a quality time experience. That is now changing
for the first time since the dawn of television. The world ahead is going to
be fully stratified to fit the taste and financial power of its segmented
audiences. That is enabled by the flexibility of digital and IPTV, which is
coming soon down a fiber. That is both scalable video with the upper end
beyond all what we have today and the lower end fit for a modest display
and, perhaps, budget.
You might be interested in an interview I did several years ago with
Nicholas Negroponte, the famed MediaLab director at MIT. It is posted in our
History section under Interviews
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/history/int ... _negro.php .
At the time I did that interview he was posing a threat to HDTV by saying
everything should be scalable, but the manufactures who had to support HDTV
were not in agreement as it was creeping away from mass production. They
wanted an "enforcement" in the markets. HDTV would be one thing and that
could be mass produced. But the truth now is that we have several different
grades of monitors with 1080p coming in without even a signal provider to
drive it. But that will change shortly. Hollywood now knows that it must
master the digital era or it will master them. The need to gather in
Hollywood to make crafted movies has ended and they can be made from any
location in the world electronically and immediately posted after shooting
any other place in the world. The distribution of movies is going to take a
huge change and you will be able to have your theater experience as you like
it in your home or in your neighborhood. As you have entertainment centers
in large modern apartment complexes there is no serious obstruction for one
buying a house and converting it in to a home business that is a theater for
the latest movies distributed by whatever means. The box office receipts are
in steep decline now and so these new ideas are going to sound much more
attractive as theaters loose their preeminent place in the movie makers'
heart.
How does all of this relate to encryption, the topic of this post? You will
have before you shortly (in terms of cosmic time) a menu of programs that
you can preview and choose at any resolution at any time, just minutes after
they are made and posted (like this email). The more value a producer can
place on his product from market demand the more he or she will insist upon
encryption. If it looks as if no one will buy their movie for the money
needed for a return, they turn to an advertising scheme using something like
Google ads. It's a new world a coming. You can hear the rumble on the
tracks.
Dale
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Dale, right you are, but with one exception. HBO original movies and
> series which are destined to be sold as DVD's.
>
> Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale Cripps <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:26:49
> To:HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> HBO and others like them have no encryption requirements on the movies
> they
> buy. Those movies are considered of little further value to the retail
> markets, i.e., the value per showing is so little that there is no further
> diminishment from endless copying and there is no other window or market
> that can be exploited that is not already sold or pre-sold. Pay per view
> is
> the window where there is still some potential value left in the carcass,
> though it is after DVD release, but the real reason for this heavy
> encryption effort is for very new movies (or even concurrent with
> theaters)
> and special productions that are just hours out of the theaters and not
> yet
> into the pre-recorded markets.
>
> Dale
>
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>>
>> No, Eric is incorrect.
>>
>> I watch and record HBO HD at 1080i on an HD Tivo every day and watch it
>> over component. There is no sign of downrezzing (other than that fact
>> that DirecTV converts it to the non-standard 1280x1080i to save
>> bandwidth, but it does that to all the 1080i stations).
>>
>> The only time I've ever seen that message was on a DirecTV test channel.
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>> So the only way to see HBO HD is via HDMI or DVI?
>>>
>>> Anthony R.
>>> Orlando, Fl
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>>> Of Eric Hyman
>>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:55 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> The HD Tivo only down-rezzes component video out for stations such as
>>> HBO-HD, which has its own copy protection system. Most of the other HD
>>> stations now on DirecTV and OTA HD are not currently doing this.
>>>
>>>
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That may be correct at their option. Those HBO/Showtime like movies
typically do not have an afterlife in this country, anymore than the
networks' Movies of the Week do, though some distribution does take place
elsewhere in the world. But the point you make is noted and that is why I
said the "movies they buy." But I don't think you will see much encryption
of the Sopranos and other such productions. Even with their network exposure
they send things like Sopranos and Angels in America mini-series to DVD, but
not until they have rung everything they can out of them. All of these so
called premium channels are thought of in the industry as anything but
premium...they perform a service to the family who can buy no more
entertainment than what their very low cost niche markets and to start
encrypting them would be anathema to their business vision. I know this from
discussions with HBO management over the last 15 years. They went into HDTV
because New York City gave them a $50 million dollar tax break based on them
going into HDTV and staying in Manhattan as well. Yes, there were HD hereos
within their walls, but they were incentivised. New York wanted to be sure
they launched HDTV from NYC. They gave CBS the same deal when the eye was
threatening to pull out of the Big Apple. We really don't have a great first
rate television service, though I do think that PBS comes pretty close. But
to have a truly premium service that delivers the best there is in the world
to you as it is happening just doesn't exist. I think the audience for the
"best" is still a bit small, at least when calculated regionally. Globally
it may be large enough to warrant some infrastruture. Television has not
been considered until now a quality time experience. That is now changing
for the first time since the dawn of television. The world ahead is going to
be fully stratified to fit the taste and financial power of its segmented
audiences. That is enabled by the flexibility of digital and IPTV, which is
coming soon down a fiber. That is both scalable video with the upper end
beyond all what we have today and the lower end fit for a modest display
and, perhaps, budget.
You might be interested in an interview I did several years ago with
Nicholas Negroponte, the famed MediaLab director at MIT. It is posted in our
History section under Interviews
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/history/int ... _negro.php .
At the time I did that interview he was posing a threat to HDTV by saying
everything should be scalable, but the manufactures who had to support HDTV
were not in agreement as it was creeping away from mass production. They
wanted an "enforcement" in the markets. HDTV would be one thing and that
could be mass produced. But the truth now is that we have several different
grades of monitors with 1080p coming in without even a signal provider to
drive it. But that will change shortly. Hollywood now knows that it must
master the digital era or it will master them. The need to gather in
Hollywood to make crafted movies has ended and they can be made from any
location in the world electronically and immediately posted after shooting
any other place in the world. The distribution of movies is going to take a
huge change and you will be able to have your theater experience as you like
it in your home or in your neighborhood. As you have entertainment centers
in large modern apartment complexes there is no serious obstruction for one
buying a house and converting it in to a home business that is a theater for
the latest movies distributed by whatever means. The box office receipts are
in steep decline now and so these new ideas are going to sound much more
attractive as theaters loose their preeminent place in the movie makers'
heart.
How does all of this relate to encryption, the topic of this post? You will
have before you shortly (in terms of cosmic time) a menu of programs that
you can preview and choose at any resolution at any time, just minutes after
they are made and posted (like this email). The more value a producer can
place on his product from market demand the more he or she will insist upon
encryption. If it looks as if no one will buy their movie for the money
needed for a return, they turn to an advertising scheme using something like
Google ads. It's a new world a coming. You can hear the rumble on the
tracks.
Dale
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Dale, right you are, but with one exception. HBO original movies and
> series which are destined to be sold as DVD's.
>
> Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale Cripps <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:26:49
> To:HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> HBO and others like them have no encryption requirements on the movies
> they
> buy. Those movies are considered of little further value to the retail
> markets, i.e., the value per showing is so little that there is no further
> diminishment from endless copying and there is no other window or market
> that can be exploited that is not already sold or pre-sold. Pay per view
> is
> the window where there is still some potential value left in the carcass,
> though it is after DVD release, but the real reason for this heavy
> encryption effort is for very new movies (or even concurrent with
> theaters)
> and special productions that are just hours out of the theaters and not
> yet
> into the pre-recorded markets.
>
> Dale
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> No, Eric is incorrect.
>>
>> I watch and record HBO HD at 1080i on an HD Tivo every day and watch it
>> over component. There is no sign of downrezzing (other than that fact
>> that DirecTV converts it to the non-standard 1280x1080i to save
>> bandwidth, but it does that to all the 1080i stations).
>>
>> The only time I've ever seen that message was on a DirecTV test channel.
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> So the only way to see HBO HD is via HDMI or DVI?
>>>
>>> Anthony R.
>>> Orlando, Fl
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>>> Of Eric Hyman
>>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:55 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>
>>> The HD Tivo only down-rezzes component video out for stations such as
>>> HBO-HD, which has its own copy protection system. Most of the other HD
>>> stations now on DirecTV and OTA HD are not currently doing this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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