hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo

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#1
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Dale, right you are, but with one exception. HBO original movies and series which are destined to be sold as DVD's.

Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Cripps <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:26:49
To:HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo

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HBO and others like them have no encryption requirements on the movies they
buy. Those movies are considered of little further value to the retail
markets, i.e., the value per showing is so little that there is no further
diminishment from endless copying and there is no other window or market
that can be exploited that is not already sold or pre-sold. Pay per view is
the window where there is still some potential value left in the carcass,
though it is after DVD release, but the real reason for this heavy
encryption effort is for very new movies (or even concurrent with theaters)
and special productions that are just hours out of the theaters and not yet
into the pre-recorded markets.

Dale

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> No, Eric is incorrect.
>
> I watch and record HBO HD at 1080i on an HD Tivo every day and watch it
> over component. There is no sign of downrezzing (other than that fact
> that DirecTV converts it to the non-standard 1280x1080i to save
> bandwidth, but it does that to all the 1080i stations).
>
> The only time I've ever seen that message was on a DirecTV test channel.
>
> On Jun 21, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
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>> So the only way to see HBO HD is via HDMI or DVI?
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, Fl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> Of Eric Hyman
>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:55 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo
>>
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>> The HD Tivo only down-rezzes component video out for stations such as
>> HBO-HD, which has its own copy protection system. Most of the other HD
>> stations now on DirecTV and OTA HD are not currently doing this.
>>
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The HD Tivo only down-rezzes component video out for stations such as
HBO-HD, which has its own copy protection system. Most of the other HD
stations now on DirecTV and OTA HD are not currently doing this.



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#3
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I just checked HBO-HD, DirecTV channel 70, and it is still high-def on
my 64" CRT RPTV, which is connected to my HR10-250 via component video
cables. I also checked four movies recently recorded from this
channel, and they also are obviously high definition. I have never
seen my HR10-250 down-rez anything, nor have I ever seen a message to
that effect.

Ken Nist, MSEE (ret), KQ6QV


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Hyman <[email protected]>
To: HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:55:10 -0400
Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo

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So the only way to see HBO HD is via HDMI or DVI?

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Eric Hyman
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:55 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo


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The HD Tivo only down-rezzes component video out for stations such as
HBO-HD, which has its own copy protection system. Most of the other HD
stations now on DirecTV and OTA HD are not currently doing this.



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No, Eric is incorrect.

I watch and record HBO HD at 1080i on an HD Tivo every day and watch
it over component. There is no sign of downrezzing (other than that
fact that DirecTV converts it to the non-standard 1280x1080i to save
bandwidth, but it does that to all the 1080i stations).

The only time I've ever seen that message was on a DirecTV test channel.

On Jun 21, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Anthony Rizzuto wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> So the only way to see HBO HD is via HDMI or DVI?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, Fl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Eric Hyman
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:55 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> The HD Tivo only down-rezzes component video out for stations such as
> HBO-HD, which has its own copy protection system. Most of the
> other HD
> stations now on DirecTV and OTA HD are not currently doing this.
>
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No, I watch in on my Dish 811 via component.

Jason Burroughs


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:11 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo

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So the only way to see HBO HD is via HDMI or DVI?

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Eric Hyman
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:55 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


The HD Tivo only down-rezzes component video out for stations such as
HBO-HD, which has its own copy protection system. Most of the other HD
stations now on DirecTV and OTA HD are not currently doing this.



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#7
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HBO and others like them have no encryption requirements on the movies they
buy. Those movies are considered of little further value to the retail
markets, i.e., the value per showing is so little that there is no further
diminishment from endless copying and there is no other window or market
that can be exploited that is not already sold or pre-sold. Pay per view is
the window where there is still some potential value left in the carcass,
though it is after DVD release, but the real reason for this heavy
encryption effort is for very new movies (or even concurrent with theaters)
and special productions that are just hours out of the theaters and not yet
into the pre-recorded markets.

Dale

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> No, Eric is incorrect.
>
> I watch and record HBO HD at 1080i on an HD Tivo every day and watch it
> over component. There is no sign of downrezzing (other than that fact
> that DirecTV converts it to the non-standard 1280x1080i to save
> bandwidth, but it does that to all the 1080i stations).
>
> The only time I've ever seen that message was on a DirecTV test channel.
>
> On Jun 21, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> So the only way to see HBO HD is via HDMI or DVI?
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, Fl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> Of Eric Hyman
>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:55 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1106 Down Rezzing W/ HD Tivo
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> The HD Tivo only down-rezzes component video out for stations such as
>> HBO-HD, which has its own copy protection system. Most of the other HD
>> stations now on DirecTV and OTA HD are not currently doing this.
>>
>>
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