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> 1) Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
> by Shane Sturgeon <[email protected]>
> 2) Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
> by Dr Robert A Fowkes <[email protected]>
> 3) Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
> by "Bob Mankin" <[email protected]>
> 4) Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
> by Shane Sturgeon <[email protected]>
> 5) WAS New TiVo Series3 promotion, now Tivo v Echostar
> by "Jordan Meschkow" <[email protected]>
> 6) TDK shipping 50GB media
> by Shane Sturgeon <[email protected]>
> 7) Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
> by [email protected]
> Re: WAS New TiVo Series3 promotion, now Tivo v Echostar
> by Dr Robert A Fowkes <[email protected]>
> 9) Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
> by Dr Robert A Fowkes <[email protected]>
>10) Re: WAS New TiVo Series3 promotion, now Tivo v Echostar
> by "Carter Hopkins" <[email protected]>
>11) Re: WAS New TiVo Series3 promotion, now Tivo v Echostar
> by "FJ" <[email protected]>
>12) HDTV - list at CEDIA 2006 update
> by Dr Robert A Fowkes <[email protected]>
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>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:55:09 -0400
>From: Shane Sturgeon <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>
>Twice that how? That is directly from their product literature: 32
>hours of HD recording.
>
>Please elaborate.
>
>It has multiple tuners to support recording/watching multiple programs.
>2 each of NTSC, ATSC, and CableCard, as I understand it.
>
>Shane Sturgeon
>
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>
>Robert Wade Brown wrote:
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>> 9/12/2006 11:06am ct
>>
>> No. It needs about twice that, and they should know it; plus
>> I think they need at least 4 HD tuners.
>> Does anyone know why they have 6 tuners?
>>
>> At 10:44 PM 9/12/2006, you wrote:
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>>>
>>> That would work for many. Remember, we're talking DVR here, not Media
>>> Server. So even adding a single extra 300GB drive would double the
>>> stored program time to 64 hours. And although it would be expensive,
>>> if they came out with a 5-bay external RAID solution it could provide
>>> up to 2.5TB of storage, assuming 500GB drives. So based on their
>>> 32-hours-in-300-GB claim, that would store 267 hours of HD.
>>>
>>> Believe it or not, I am not a TiVo owner (yet). So is 267 hours of HD
>>> recording enough for you DVR fans out there?
>>>
>>> Shane Sturgeon
>>> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
>>> Cell: (937) 532-8135
>>> www.hdtvmagazine.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jordan Meschkow wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> Shane,
>>>>
>>>> Funny you picked up/mentioned the E-SATA feature. I just read an
>>>> article
>>>> that in 12-18 months terabyte storage desktops will be common. My
>>>> PC wound
>>>> up with 3 SATA 2 drives totaling 910 GB, but before you think that's
>>>> big, I
>>>> use a 250 MB WD SATA 2 disk to feed shared DVD video files around
>>>> the house
>>>> for PowerDVD play. It has 37 titles currently in 153 GB, but once
>>>> had 58
>>>> and was full. That means less than 240 in a terabyte unit, and each HD
>>>> video is 4-8x the size of a DVD directory. Storage size is hot now.
>>>>
>>>> Jordan Meschkow
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Shane Sturgeon
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:35 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Correct. I was just responding to Jack's question: "Why wouldn't
>>>> TiVo want to come up with a box that
>>>> would be compatible with satellite service?" ... the answer is: They
>>>> did, the HR10-250.
>>>>
>>>> I am assuming also that the 32-hour HD storage quoted by the new
>>>> Series3 TiVo is for MPEG-4 compression ... as a 300GB hard drive
>>>> would only fit about 16 hours of MPEG-2 (if I've done my math
>>>> correctly). So your mileage may vary with that figure.
>>>>
>>>> I think the most exciting thing about this new device is the E-SATA
>>>> connector on the back, which (presumably) will be to allow arrays of
>>>> external storage drives at some point in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Shane Sturgeon
>>>> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
>>>> Cell: (937) 532-8135
>>>> www.hdtvmagazine.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bruce McDermott wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>> Yes, but that one will not work with the new MPEG-4 birds, correct?
>>>>>
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>>>>> Of Shane Sturgeon
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:26 PM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>> Subject: Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> DirecTV signed a three year extension to that deal with TiVo.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any facts about their decision to abandon satellite this
>>>>> time around either, but my supposition is that the satellite companies
>>>>> control their transmission scheme, and since they are each working on
>>>>> their own boxes ... no need for TiVo. Why would the Sat companies
>>>>> give
>>>>> a slice of the pie to TiVo if they didn't have to?
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume you all know that TiVo did release an HD DVR with DirecTV
>>>>> a few
>>>>> years ago: the HR10-250.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shane Sturgeon
>>>>> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
>>>>> Cell: (937) 532-8135
>>>>> www.hdtvmagazine.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Odell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just as a guess:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Control of the platform. I would bet that DirecTV dictates
>>>>>> the features allowed in "their" receiver.
>>>>>> 2) The soon to be expiring (end of 2007?) Tivo / DirecTV contract.
>>>>>> 3) The number of cable customers compared to satellite customers
>>>>>> as you surmise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no facts to support any of my suppositions above but they all
>>>>>> *seem* likely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/12/06, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wondering. Why wouldn't TIVO want to come up with a box that
>>>>>>> would be compatible with sattelite service? I know there are far
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> cable users than sattelite....is that it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:13 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgive the advertisement please ... but we're running a promotion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TiVo this month for their new Series3 HD DVR. A brief feature list:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - THX certification
>>>>>>>> - Dual tuner (cablecard & ATSC)
>>>>>>>> - 300 hours of standard recording time or up to 32 in HD
>>>>>>>> - Advanced TiVo broadband features, including digital photos,
>>>>>>>> Internet radio, podcasts, and more
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are interested in purchasing one, you can help out the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> magazine by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> using the following link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-1683082-10440996
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We also just posted a bulletin outlining some of the features:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/news/2006/0 ... 3_high_def
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> inition_digital_media_recorder.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please feel free to forward this to anyone else who might be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shane Sturgeon
>>>>>>>> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>>> Cell: (937) 532-8135
>>>>>>>> www.hdtvmagazine.com
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>Message-Id: <[email protected]>
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:08:05 -0400
>From: Dr Robert A Fowkes <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>
>At 10:35 PM 9/12/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>I have the Dish 622. The software is not anywhere near as useful or
>>transparent as the TIVO software. I had Cox Cable and the SA DVR and it's
>>software also couldn't match TIVO.
>
>I have three DISH ViP 622s. (I also own an older 942). Each of
>these units are dual tuner HD units recording about 30 hours HD and
>200 hours of SD material. The ViP 622s are MPEG-4 compatible as well
>and, although I don't use it can also accommodate OTA recording as
>well. Through the Dish Rebate/trade in program I was able to lease
>two 622s for $99 each and the monthly fee is $6. In addition, the
>software on the 622 is extremely useful to me, is text based (with
>season passes, etc. etc.) and serves me quite well. While it might
>not have all the bells and whistles of a "TiVo" it must have struck a
>couple of nerves over there since TiVo has initiated a lawsuit with
>Dish regarding the 622 technology. I'm not concerned about this one
>bit because by the time something is resolved I'll be well onto the
>next generation of DVR boxes or whatever. But the fact that there is
>a lawsuit shows that TiVo must be threatened by the 622.
>
>While I applaud the fact that the TiVo community finally has a 30+hr
>HD, dual tuner box I can't see the $800 price point + monthly fees as
>being in line with other options - assuming you can get a line of
>sight to Echostar satellites.
>
>Speaking of Echostar, I'm currently here in Denver at CEDIA. I'll
>be meeting with some Dish people later this week and will be looking
>over some of their newer products. I already have the 622 boxes and
>own a PocketDish 700 (portable player). Right now it's not HD
>compatible via USB but it's still a nice little unit for on-the-go
>catching up with videos. The thing that I'm really interested in is
>the something they call the "AT&T Homezone" which, in their words, is
>"A Media Portal set top box that can support multiple televisions to
>distribute content throughout the home using our entertainment
>networking technology. Now you can watch recorded shows, order
>video-on-demand, listen to music, view photos, and even pause live
>TV." To me this is a first step to eventually linking my four HD
>DVRs so that I can tune in to any TV in the house and view material
>from any of the boxes. Yes, I know there are several ways to do this
>right now but it's really not plug and play and there are some issues
>with HD content. I'm hoping that this "HomeZone" marks Dish
>addressing their HD boxes eventually talking to each other for homes
>with multiple boxes. If I find out anything significant I'll share it here.
>
>
>
>-- RAF
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>From: "Bob Mankin" <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:06:58 -0700
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>
>Shane, my local cable co Comcast required that a Technician come out for the
>$15 install. He barely knew which side of the card was up and in the end, it
>was up to me to seat the thing properly in the set to get it working
>initially. That should tell you how much experience they have with them.
>
>On the plus side, the PQ with the card is outstanding, better than a STB for
>sure. Downside is the card was unreliable and would occasionally crash, lose
>channels, etc. I didn't like the clunky TV Guide setup either. Tech support
>was no help. After many calls they just want to blame the set. I finally
>gave up and returned it and I'm back to STB on that set.
>
>The problem with Cable Card v1.0 is there is no incentive for MSOs to
>support it. It isn't advance feature capable and they would prefer you adopt
>their STB instead to you can buy PPV or VOD, neither of which I have an
>interest in.
>
>As for the S3, as Dave noted, it's not hardware capable for the coming Cable
>Card 2 spec which is still in process. I would NOT buy it based on the hopes
>of eSATA in the future either. Ask the MAC guys how well they rolled out the
>Tivo2Go for them. Buy it for what it does today.
>
>At $800 plus $13/mo for the subscription, it's stillborn in my mind. That's
>a hefty premium for the UI and beyond that not much else. Diehard Tivo fans
>will be all over it, but with end users getting them this week, you'll
>probably start to hear the complaints within a week or two.
>
>Bob
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>> Shane Sturgeon
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:16 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I don't think the satellite companies would do that, as it would enable
>> the competition.
>>
>> And I don't have cable, so am not familiar at all with installation
>> procedures or difficulties of cable card ... but from what I've heard,
>> the main consumer drawback of cable card was lack of an on screen guide
>> ... that obviously will not be a problem with the S3.
>>
>> The only other significant effect I heard of was lack of bi-directional
>> communication (i.e. pay-per-view/VOD) ... what other difficulties might
>> there be?
>>
>> Shane Sturgeon
>> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
>> Cell: (937) 532-8135
>> www.hdtvmagazine.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Mankin wrote:
>> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >
>> > Correct.
>> >
>> > But the good news is if this S3 actually gets some traction it's not
>> that
>> > difficult to port to a satellite tuner if the numbers were there. They
>> could
>> > heavily leverage the existing design versus doing it from scratch.
>> >
>> > I still have to see this thing work with some reasonable amount of
>> success
>> > before I'll believe it. There were far too many nightmare stories with
>> cable
>> > cards in TV sets, myself included. No reason to think the same card in a
>> S3
>> > would work any better.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> Of
>> >> Bruce McDermott
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:29 PM
>> >> To: HDTV Magazine
>> >> Subject: Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>> >>
>> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >>
>> >> Yes, but that one will not work with the new MPEG-4 birds, correct?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> BRUCE A. McDERMOTT
>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >>
>> >> GARVEY SCHUBERT BARER
>> >> GSBLaw.com <http://www.gsblaw.com/>
>> >> eighteenth floor
>> >> 1191 second avenue
>> >> seattle, washington 98101-2939
>> >> TEL 206 464 3939 x1472 FAX 206 464 0125
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> >> Of Shane Sturgeon
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:26 PM
>> >> To: HDTV Magazine
>> >> Subject: Re: New TiVo Series3 promotion
>> >>
>> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >>
>> >> DirecTV signed a three year extension to that deal with TiVo.
>> >>
>> >> I don't have any facts about their decision to abandon satellite this
>> >> time around either, but my supposition is that the satellite companies
>> >> control their transmission scheme, and since they are each working on
>> >> their own boxes ... no need for TiVo. Why would the Sat companies give
>> >> a slice of the pie to TiVo if they didn't have to?
>> >>
>> >> I assume you all know that TiVo did release an HD DVR with DirecTV a
>> few
>> >> years ago: the HR10-250.
>> >>
>> >> Shane Sturgeon
>> >> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
>> >> Cell: (937) 532-8135
>> >> www.hdtvmagazine.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Odell wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >>>
>> >>> Just as a guess:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1) Control of the platform. I would bet that DirecTV dictates the
>> >>> features allowed in "their" receiver.
>> >>> 2) The soon to be expiring (end of 2007?) Tivo / DirecTV contract.
>> >>> 3) The number of cable customers compared to satellite customers as
>> >>> you surmise.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have no facts to support any of my suppositions above but they all
>> >>> *seem* likely.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jeff
>> >>>
>> >>> On 9/12/06, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just wondering. Why wouldn't TIVO want to come up with a box that
>> >>>> would be compatible with sattelite service? I know there are far more
>> >>>>
>> >>>> cable users than sattelite....is that it?
>> >&