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Sony also prints this warning in the manual for the SCRD (LCOS) sets...I
never leave any TV with a static image for longer than a few minutes...only
makes sense!
John E. Devine
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Subject: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1517
> HDTV Magazine Digest #1517
>
> 1) LCD Burn-In ????
> by Larry Baumann <[email protected]>
> 2) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> 3) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by "Gregg Dixon" <[email protected]>
> 4) Website Update: Forum & Store Improvements
> by HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> 5) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> 6) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by [email protected]
> 7) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
>
Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> 9) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
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> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:58 -0600
> From: Larry Baumann <[email protected]>
> Subject: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> Color me confused.
> I purchased a Samsung LN-S3251D LCD panel HDTV last Saturday evening.
> Looking at the Owner's Instructions I find a warning box saying that
> displaying a fixed image or 4X3 images for long periods may cause
> permanent damage to the TV screen (burn in). I thought LCDs did not
> have this characteristic (as CRTs and Plasmas do) and was one of the
> positive points for choosing LCD over Plasma or CRT.
> Could anyone clarify???
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:48:20 -0500
> From: Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> Yep. working on redefining that at HD Library...
>
> It appears NOTHING is impervious to burn in.
>
> Have had reports of DLP having 4:3 burn in but that can only be due to
> something in the light path aging from the light - it ain't the DMD
> device! That said mine is at about 10,0000 hours and 80% of that was 4:3.
>
> LCD RP or FP can burn too.
>
> As I told a recent customer...
>
> Quick point here; LCD is not impervious to burn in. Note that the
> computer industry is running screen savers. What this means is while not
> impervious it is far more resilient and appears to have the same level
> of potential as a direct view CRT. That means don't leave static images
> on the display thinking nothing can happen and by all means watch some
> full screen content.
>
> Beyond that I am still figuring it out and unable to get any hard
> statistics on what it takes, hours, to cause it. With LCD I am told it
> has to do with the liquid part of LCD, liquid crystal display, getting
> stuck in a molecular state. Some LCD displays have a built in WIPE
> feature to remove it. You could feasibly feed it a full white raster and
> accomplish the same. Another thing that just came up too is if you break
> one don't touch the goo, the liquid part of LCD, that might be secreted.
> Supposedly Mits has this warning in their owners manual and may be the
> only manufacturer doing so this year.
>
>
> Richard Fisher
> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>
> Larry Baumann wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Color me confused.
>> I purchased a Samsung LN-S3251D LCD panel HDTV last Saturday evening.
>> Looking at the Owner's Instructions I find a warning box saying that
>> displaying a fixed image or 4X3 images for long periods may cause
>> permanent damage to the TV screen (burn in). I thought LCDs did not
>> have this characteristic (as CRTs and Plasmas do) and was one of the
>> positive points for choosing LCD over Plasma or CRT.
>> Could anyone clarify???
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> From: "Gregg Dixon" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: LCD Burn-In ????
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:07:16 -0500
> Message-ID: <007f01c708d0$1f242230$6602a8c0@GreggServer>
>
> I have heard of LCD panel companies and retailers bad mouthing plasma for
> burn in. But LCD's have what is called image retention. Isn't that
> basically the same thing?
>
> Richard are you saying you're DLP burned in or that you have heard reports
> of it?
>
>
>
>
> Gregg Dixon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Richard Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:48 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Yep. working on redefining that at HD Library...
>
> It appears NOTHING is impervious to burn in.
>
> Have had reports of DLP having 4:3 burn in but that can only be due to
> something in the light path aging from the light - it ain't the DMD
> device! That said mine is at about 10,0000 hours and 80% of that was 4:3.
>
> LCD RP or FP can burn too.
>
> As I told a recent customer...
>
> Quick point here; LCD is not impervious to burn in. Note that the
> computer industry is running screen savers. What this means is while not
> impervious it is far more resilient and appears to have the same level
> of potential as a direct view CRT. That means don't leave static images
> on the display thinking nothing can happen and by all means watch some
> full screen content.
>
> Beyond that I am still figuring it out and unable to get any hard
> statistics on what it takes, hours, to cause it. With LCD I am told it
> has to do with the liquid part of LCD, liquid crystal display, getting
> stuck in a molecular state. Some LCD displays have a built in WIPE
> feature to remove it. You could feasibly feed it a full white raster and
> accomplish the same. Another thing that just came up too is if you break
> one don't touch the goo, the liquid part of LCD, that might be secreted.
> Supposedly Mits has this warning in their owners manual and may be the
> only manufacturer doing so this year.
>
>
> Richard Fisher
> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>
> Larry Baumann wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Color me confused.
>> I purchased a Samsung LN-S3251D LCD panel HDTV last Saturday evening.
>> Looking at the Owner's Instructions I find a warning box saying that
>> displaying a fixed image or 4X3 images for long periods may cause
>> permanent damage to the TV screen (burn in). I thought LCDs did not
>> have this characteristic (as CRTs and Plasmas do) and was one of the
>> positive points for choosing LCD over Plasma or CRT.
>> Could anyone clarify???
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>>
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> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:43:49 -0500
> From: Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> Image retention is the technical term for burn in.
>
> > Richard are you saying you're DLP burned in or that you have heard
> reports
> > of it?
>
> Reports of it and mine is fine. A DLP with this problem is very rare!
>
> Richard Fisher
> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
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>
> Gregg Dixon wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I have heard of LCD panel companies and retailers bad mouthing plasma for
>> burn in. But LCD's have what is called image retention. Isn't that
>> basically the same thing?
>>
>> Richard are you saying you're DLP burned in or that you have heard
>> reports
>> of it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gregg Dixon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>> Richard Fisher
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:48 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Yep. working on redefining that at HD Library...
>>
>> It appears NOTHING is impervious to burn in.
>>
>> Have had reports of DLP having 4:3 burn in but that can only be due to
>> something in the light path aging from the light - it ain't the DMD
>> device! That said mine is at about 10,0000 hours and 80% of that was 4:3.
>>
>> LCD RP or FP can burn too.
>>
>> As I told a recent customer...
>>
>> Quick point here; LCD is not impervious to burn in. Note that the
>> computer industry is running screen savers. What this means is while not
>> impervious it is far more resilient and appears to have the same level
>> of potential as a direct view CRT. That means don't leave static images
>> on the display thinking nothing can happen and by all means watch some
>> full screen content.
>>
>> Beyond that I am still figuring it out and unable to get any hard
>> statistics on what it takes, hours, to cause it. With LCD I am told it
>> has to do with the liquid part of LCD, liquid crystal display, getting
>> stuck in a molecular state. Some LCD displays have a built in WIPE
>> feature to remove it. You could feasibly feed it a full white raster and
>> accomplish the same. Another thing that just came up too is if you break
>> one don't touch the goo, the liquid part of LCD, that might be secreted.
>> Supposedly Mits has this warning in their owners manual and may be the
>> only manufacturer doing so this year.
>>
>>
>> Richard Fisher
>> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
>> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>>
>> Larry Baumann wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Color me confused.
>>> I purchased a Samsung LN-S3251D LCD panel HDTV last Saturday evening.
>>>Looking at the Owner's Instructions I find a warning box saying that
>>>displaying a fixed image or 4X3 images for long periods may cause
>>>permanent damage to the TV screen (burn in). I thought LCDs did not
>>>have this characteristic (as CRTs and Plasmas do) and was one of the
>>>positive points for choosing LCD over Plasma or CRT.
>>> Could anyone clarify???
>>>Thanks,
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:11:03 EST
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> =E2=80=9CImage retention=E2=80=9D also includes a temporary phenomenon
> that=
> LCDs are famous=20
> for. This =E2=80=9Cimage retention=E2=80=9D, which goes away in about 30
> m=
> inutes, would=20
> not be burn-in. -Ken =20
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:36:40 -0500
> From: Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> You are correct but there have been cases where it did remain requiring
> replacment of the LCD panel.
>
> Richard Fisher
> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
Sony also prints this warning in the manual for the SCRD (LCOS) sets...I
never leave any TV with a static image for longer than a few minutes...only
makes sense!
John E. Devine
[email protected]
----- Original Message -----
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To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:00 AM
Subject: hdtvmagazine_tips Digest #1517
> HDTV Magazine Digest #1517
>
> 1) LCD Burn-In ????
> by Larry Baumann <[email protected]>
> 2) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> 3) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by "Gregg Dixon" <[email protected]>
> 4) Website Update: Forum & Store Improvements
> by HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> 5) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> 6) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by [email protected]
> 7) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
>
Re: LCD Burn-In ????> by Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> 9) Re: LCD Burn-In ????
> by "Rodolfo La Maestra" <[email protected]>
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> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:58 -0600
> From: Larry Baumann <[email protected]>
> Subject: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> Color me confused.
> I purchased a Samsung LN-S3251D LCD panel HDTV last Saturday evening.
> Looking at the Owner's Instructions I find a warning box saying that
> displaying a fixed image or 4X3 images for long periods may cause
> permanent damage to the TV screen (burn in). I thought LCDs did not
> have this characteristic (as CRTs and Plasmas do) and was one of the
> positive points for choosing LCD over Plasma or CRT.
> Could anyone clarify???
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:48:20 -0500
> From: Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> Yep. working on redefining that at HD Library...
>
> It appears NOTHING is impervious to burn in.
>
> Have had reports of DLP having 4:3 burn in but that can only be due to
> something in the light path aging from the light - it ain't the DMD
> device! That said mine is at about 10,0000 hours and 80% of that was 4:3.
>
> LCD RP or FP can burn too.
>
> As I told a recent customer...
>
> Quick point here; LCD is not impervious to burn in. Note that the
> computer industry is running screen savers. What this means is while not
> impervious it is far more resilient and appears to have the same level
> of potential as a direct view CRT. That means don't leave static images
> on the display thinking nothing can happen and by all means watch some
> full screen content.
>
> Beyond that I am still figuring it out and unable to get any hard
> statistics on what it takes, hours, to cause it. With LCD I am told it
> has to do with the liquid part of LCD, liquid crystal display, getting
> stuck in a molecular state. Some LCD displays have a built in WIPE
> feature to remove it. You could feasibly feed it a full white raster and
> accomplish the same. Another thing that just came up too is if you break
> one don't touch the goo, the liquid part of LCD, that might be secreted.
> Supposedly Mits has this warning in their owners manual and may be the
> only manufacturer doing so this year.
>
>
> Richard Fisher
> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>
> Larry Baumann wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Color me confused.
>> I purchased a Samsung LN-S3251D LCD panel HDTV last Saturday evening.
>> Looking at the Owner's Instructions I find a warning box saying that
>> displaying a fixed image or 4X3 images for long periods may cause
>> permanent damage to the TV screen (burn in). I thought LCDs did not
>> have this characteristic (as CRTs and Plasmas do) and was one of the
>> positive points for choosing LCD over Plasma or CRT.
>> Could anyone clarify???
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>>
>> To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> From: "Gregg Dixon" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: LCD Burn-In ????
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:07:16 -0500
> Message-ID: <007f01c708d0$1f242230$6602a8c0@GreggServer>
>
> I have heard of LCD panel companies and retailers bad mouthing plasma for
> burn in. But LCD's have what is called image retention. Isn't that
> basically the same thing?
>
> Richard are you saying you're DLP burned in or that you have heard reports
> of it?
>
>
>
>
> Gregg Dixon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Richard Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:48 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Yep. working on redefining that at HD Library...
>
> It appears NOTHING is impervious to burn in.
>
> Have had reports of DLP having 4:3 burn in but that can only be due to
> something in the light path aging from the light - it ain't the DMD
> device! That said mine is at about 10,0000 hours and 80% of that was 4:3.
>
> LCD RP or FP can burn too.
>
> As I told a recent customer...
>
> Quick point here; LCD is not impervious to burn in. Note that the
> computer industry is running screen savers. What this means is while not
> impervious it is far more resilient and appears to have the same level
> of potential as a direct view CRT. That means don't leave static images
> on the display thinking nothing can happen and by all means watch some
> full screen content.
>
> Beyond that I am still figuring it out and unable to get any hard
> statistics on what it takes, hours, to cause it. With LCD I am told it
> has to do with the liquid part of LCD, liquid crystal display, getting
> stuck in a molecular state. Some LCD displays have a built in WIPE
> feature to remove it. You could feasibly feed it a full white raster and
> accomplish the same. Another thing that just came up too is if you break
> one don't touch the goo, the liquid part of LCD, that might be secreted.
> Supposedly Mits has this warning in their owners manual and may be the
> only manufacturer doing so this year.
>
>
> Richard Fisher
> HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
> Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php
>
> Larry Baumann wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Color me confused.
>> I purchased a Samsung LN-S3251D LCD panel HDTV last Saturday evening.
>> Looking at the Owner's Instructions I find a warning box saying that
>> displaying a fixed image or 4X3 images for long periods may cause
>> permanent damage to the TV screen (burn in). I thought LCDs did not
>> have this characteristic (as CRTs and Plasmas do) and was one of the
>> positive points for choosing LCD over Plasma or CRT.
>> Could anyone clarify???
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>>
>> To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
>>
>> To receive the digest mode (one email a day made from all posted that
>> same day) send an email to:
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> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:00:44 -0800
> Message-Id: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Website Update: Forum & Store Improvements
> From: HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Hi ,
>
> This is a periodic update to inform you of a few new features at
> hdtvmagazine.com:
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> In this issue:
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> Kansas.
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> - Reviews
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> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:43:49 -0500
> From: Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> Image retention is the technical term for burn in.
>
> > Richard are you saying you're DLP burned in or that you have heard
> reports
> > of it?
>
> Reports of it and mine is fine. A DLP with this problem is very rare!
>
> Richard Fisher
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> Gregg Dixon wrote:
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>> I have heard of LCD panel companies and retailers bad mouthing plasma for
>> burn in. But LCD's have what is called image retention. Isn't that
>> basically the same thing?
>>
>> Richard are you saying you're DLP burned in or that you have heard
>> reports
>> of it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gregg Dixon
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>> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
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>> Yep. working on redefining that at HD Library...
>>
>> It appears NOTHING is impervious to burn in.
>>
>> Have had reports of DLP having 4:3 burn in but that can only be due to
>> something in the light path aging from the light - it ain't the DMD
>> device! That said mine is at about 10,0000 hours and 80% of that was 4:3.
>>
>> LCD RP or FP can burn too.
>>
>> As I told a recent customer...
>>
>> Quick point here; LCD is not impervious to burn in. Note that the
>> computer industry is running screen savers. What this means is while not
>> impervious it is far more resilient and appears to have the same level
>> of potential as a direct view CRT. That means don't leave static images
>> on the display thinking nothing can happen and by all means watch some
>> full screen content.
>>
>> Beyond that I am still figuring it out and unable to get any hard
>> statistics on what it takes, hours, to cause it. With LCD I am told it
>> has to do with the liquid part of LCD, liquid crystal display, getting
>> stuck in a molecular state. Some LCD displays have a built in WIPE
>> feature to remove it. You could feasibly feed it a full white raster and
>> accomplish the same. Another thing that just came up too is if you break
>> one don't touch the goo, the liquid part of LCD, that might be secreted.
>> Supposedly Mits has this warning in their owners manual and may be the
>> only manufacturer doing so this year.
>>
>>
>> Richard Fisher
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>> Larry Baumann wrote:
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>>> Color me confused.
>>> I purchased a Samsung LN-S3251D LCD panel HDTV last Saturday evening.
>>>Looking at the Owner's Instructions I find a warning box saying that
>>>displaying a fixed image or 4X3 images for long periods may cause
>>>permanent damage to the TV screen (burn in). I thought LCDs did not
>>>have this characteristic (as CRTs and Plasmas do) and was one of the
>>>positive points for choosing LCD over Plasma or CRT.
>>> Could anyone clarify???
>>>Thanks,
>>> Larry
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> From: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:11:03 EST
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
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> =E2=80=9CImage retention=E2=80=9D also includes a temporary phenomenon
> that=
> LCDs are famous=20
> for. This =E2=80=9Cimage retention=E2=80=9D, which goes away in about 30
> m=
> inutes, would=20
> not be burn-in. -Ken =20
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> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:36:40 -0500
> From: Richard Fisher <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
>
> You are correct but there have been cases where it did remain requiring
> replacment of the LCD panel.
>
> Richard Fisher
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