High Definition DVD packaging

Started by Hugh Apr 13, 2006 5 posts
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#1
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For anyone interested here is a link to the pictures of the packaging of the
HD-DVD's and Blu-ray DVD's being released. The rear of the HD-DVD's show
they will be in 1080p.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ ... eases.html

Hugh


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#2
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The first thing I noticed is that HD-DVD is very prominent on their
packaging but the Blu-ray logo isn't. Very poor marketing on Blu-ray's part,
IMO. But then again, as usual, they didn't ask me.

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:05 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: High Definition DVD packaging

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For anyone interested here is a link to the pictures of the packaging of the

HD-DVD's and Blu-ray DVD's being released. The rear of the HD-DVD's show
they will be in 1080p.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ ... eases.html

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#3
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Why do the HD DVD discs have the 480i version on it also? You can't play the
disc in a standard DVD player and I see no reason why you would want to play
the SD version with an HD DVD player when you have the HD version.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: High Definition DVD packaging


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

The first thing I noticed is that HD-DVD is very prominent on their
packaging but the Blu-ray logo isn't. Very poor marketing on Blu-ray's part,
IMO. But then again, as usual, they didn't ask me.

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:05 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: High Definition DVD packaging

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

For anyone interested here is a link to the pictures of the packaging of the

HD-DVD's and Blu-ray DVD's being released. The rear of the HD-DVD's show
they will be in 1080p.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ ... eases.html

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Now we only need a player that supports it.

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

For anyone interested here is a link to the pictures of the packaging of
the
HD-DVD's and Blu-ray DVD's being released. The rear of the HD-DVD's show
they will be in 1080p.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ ... eases.html

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#5
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Aaron,

Please look at the title over the 480i, it says special features, meaning the extras are in 480i
(not the movie) , it also indicates that those features are recorded in just stereo.

Let us analyze a bit further what the back of the disc case is saying to a consumer:

Note that there is no indication of the video codecs used on the disc, MPEG-2, VC1, MPEG-4, which
most probably tells that is MPEG-2 for blue-laser only.

Note also that except for one disc the discs are only using Dolby Digital Plus, not True HD, which
might start indicating the limitations on 25GB per layer of HD DVD.

Note that although DTS 5.1 and Dolby Digital 5.1 legacy formats are mandatory for both formats the
HD-DVD package does not even mention the audio codecs, which lets the consumer assume is included.

Note that there is nothing on the back that indicates that the disc is hybrid (containing the HD and
SD versions, for blue and red lasers), it could be an omission but it could be IT, just HD readable
by blue laser.

Hybrid discs would permit a current DVD collector with just a DVD player to keep buying movies that
eventually would play on their future HD player (regardless which format they choose, both have
hybrids) when they are in a position to upgrade to an HD player that will also play red laser
regular DVD movies. Movie collectors usually have more money invested in movies than the player
cost, regardless of format, hybrid discs would motivate HD content purchases even from people that
does not have HD players, yet.

I could not read clearly at the small print of the logos text on the bottom but it seems these discs
are released without the infamous Token, even from Warner, which is a big plus for early adopters.

The Token logo is mandated to appear on the label if the studio used it on the movie.

Regarding the 1080p recording, it is to be expected, 24fps 1080p would occupy less real state than
its 1080i 60 fps version, same as with regular DVD. The problem is what the player does with that
1080p signal, and we know that Toshiba converts the 1080p to 1080i/60 over HDMI (and over component
if no Token is present).

The advantage of discs being ready as 1080p (probably stored as split field pairs with flags to
rebuild the original frame, as with 480p DVD) is that when Toshiba releases their next generation
players with expected 1080p outputs the movies are already capable to transfer the 1080p24 content
to a 1080p/24/60 output without the need to interlacing to 60i first using 2:3 pull down, which
creates its own zoo of interlacing artifacts.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Aaron W. Thompson
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:01 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: High Definition DVD packaging


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Why do the HD DVD discs have the 480i version on it also? You can't play the
disc in a standard DVD player and I see no reason why you would want to play
the SD version with an HD DVD player when you have the HD version.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: High Definition DVD packaging


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

The first thing I noticed is that HD-DVD is very prominent on their
packaging but the Blu-ray logo isn't. Very poor marketing on Blu-ray's part,
IMO. But then again, as usual, they didn't ask me.

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:05 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: High Definition DVD packaging

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

For anyone interested here is a link to the pictures of the packaging of the

HD-DVD's and Blu-ray DVD's being released. The rear of the HD-DVD's show
they will be in 1080p.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ ... eases.html

Hugh


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