Java into Blu-ray

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#1
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Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a firm plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily endorsing either format when they
joined Toshiba, but now, having Java on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by
the classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me to forget a bit about the
Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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#2
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Great, now it will NEVER get finished, and when they decide to release
it because of all the pressure, it will be half-baked and there will be
an incredible amount of confusion.

Anyone else see a huge train wreck looming??

Jason

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Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
firm plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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#3
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Rodolfo,

Was that "forget a bit" a pun?

Larry


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Subject: Java into Blu-ray

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Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a firm
plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily endorsing
either format when they
joined Toshiba, but now, having Java on the other side, the Hi Def DVD
format war has been joined by
the classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me to
forget a bit about the
Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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#4
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There is an implication here for WM9 (windows media 9). Since MS will
not be involved it seems certain that there will be no WM9 blu-ray
releases, and that codec will not likely be included in the software for
B-R.

On the other hand, I now guess that HDDVD will likely go heavily toward
the MS way of doing things and will fail.

However, if MS wants to leverage its way into the media distribution
business, this will be a REALLY BIG FIGHT!

JAVA works...ever have a crash of a MS Windows system?

Howard in South Bend




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#5
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Larry,

Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?

Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and actually be capable to do their
jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly enough for me, not to mention
my family, I wanted to forget and I fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on
the deck and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more people.

This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not affect me as much as they did
on the corporate business, I just have to be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000
PCs and 500 servers in 40 countries.

Take care Larry,

Rodolfo




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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


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Rodolfo,

Was that "forget a bit" a pun?

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Java into Blu-ray

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09.html?tag=html.alert

Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a firm
plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily endorsing
either format when they
joined Toshiba, but now, having Java on the other side, the Hi Def DVD
format war has been joined by
the classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me to
forget a bit about the
Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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#6
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This is the first time I saw who was lining up with who on the software
side of the equation. It seems to me that the HD DVD boys have the
deeper film library which should translate into better sales which
should then translate into success for their format over Blu-Ray.

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


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Larry,

Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?

Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and
actually be capable to do their
jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly
enough for me, not to mention my family, I wanted to forget and I
fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on the deck
and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more
people.

This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not
affect me as much as they did on the corporate business, I just have to
be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000 PCs and 500
servers in 40 countries.

Take care Larry,

Rodolfo




-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Rodolfo,

Was that "forget a bit" a pun?

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Java into Blu-ray

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

http://news.com.com/Java+to+appear+in+n ... 0-1046_3-5
7664
09.html?tag=html.alert

Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
firm plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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#7
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But how does the playback device affect acceptance? If the PS3 hits the
market in 18 months at $300 ... what affect will that have? Will we be a
that price point anyway by then with the "players"?

And Sony has a pretty deep film library as well, don't they?


-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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This is the first time I saw who was lining up with who on the software
side of the equation. It seems to me that the HD DVD boys have the
deeper film library which should translate into better sales which
should then translate into success for their format over Blu-Ray.

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


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Larry,

Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?

Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and
actually be capable to do their
jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly
enough for me, not to mention my family, I wanted to forget and I
fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on the deck
and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more
people.

This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not
affect me as much as they did on the corporate business, I just have to
be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000 PCs and 500
servers in 40 countries.

Take care Larry,

Rodolfo




-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Rodolfo,

Was that "forget a bit" a pun?

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Java into Blu-ray

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

http://news.com.com/Java+to+appear+in+n ... 0-1046_3-5
7664
09.html?tag=html.alert

Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
firm plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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#8
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Sony does have a deep library but not as deep as Warner, Universal and
Paramount combined. As far as the price point for the players, we can
only hope.

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But how does the playback device affect acceptance? If the PS3 hits the
market in 18 months at $300 ... what affect will that have? Will we be
a that price point anyway by then with the "players"?

And Sony has a pretty deep film library as well, don't they?


-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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This is the first time I saw who was lining up with who on the software
side of the equation. It seems to me that the HD DVD boys have the
deeper film library which should translate into better sales which
should then translate into success for their format over Blu-Ray.

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


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Larry,

Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?

Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and
actually be capable to do their
jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly
enough for me, not to mention my family, I wanted to forget and I
fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on the deck
and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more
people.

This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not
affect me as much as they did on the corporate business, I just have to
be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000 PCs and 500
servers in 40 countries.

Take care Larry,

Rodolfo




-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Rodolfo,

Was that "forget a bit" a pun?

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Java into Blu-ray

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

http://news.com.com/Java+to+appear+in+n ... 0-1046_3-5
7664
09.html?tag=html.alert

Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
firm plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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#9
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I think there are currently two huge factors working against an HD version
of the DVD product.

One, like many others, I think the existence of two formats is going to be a
massively difficult obstacle to success. The track record for this is very
bad and I think it will be a huge turnoff for both the public and
software-stocking retailers.

If I were setting odds in Vegas on the ultimate success of either of the two
competing HD disc formats, I'd open the betting at 10-1 and start making my
plans for retirement in the South of France. I largely base this on the fact
that consumers at large are easily discouraged from making purchases that
aren't 100% risk-free. I don't think you need to look any further for
evidence of this than the still-large percentage of HDTV owners who don't
have a source of HD programming.

Two, I'm very skeptical that we're going to see much software during the
first couple of years after one or more HD-capable DVD formats are out in
the market. The existing DVD market is a huge and precious cash cow for the
movie studios and by all accounts they're nowhere closing to milking it dry.


Even with a single HD disc format, I'm doubtful that we'd see routine
same-day releases of standard- and high-definition DVD product, because of
the risk of confusion and fear of obsolescence that could cause for owners
of traditional DVD players.

Obviously this wouldn't be an issue for Tips List readers or subscribers to
one or more home theater magazines. But for the much larger casual
DVD-buying public, I think the sudden availability of HD-format DVDs is
likely to create question marks that do more to inhibit than encourage
near-term purchases of traditional DVD product.

It is possible that HD-format discs are released same day and there's little
promotion of their availability, but I suspect that we're more likely to see
most of the initial HD release activity concentrate on back-catalog films,
with same-day releases not becoming routine for at least a couple of years,
possibly longer.

Regards,


Doug
Clearly Resolved Image & Sound

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But how does the playback device affect acceptance? If the PS3 hits the
market in 18 months at $300 ... what affect will that have? Will we be a
that price point anyway by then with the "players"?

And Sony has a pretty deep film library as well, don't they?


-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

This is the first time I saw who was lining up with who on the software
side of the equation. It seems to me that the HD DVD boys have the
deeper film library which should translate into better sales which
should then translate into success for their format over Blu-Ray.

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Larry,

Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?

Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and
actually be capable to do their
jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly
enough for me, not to mention my family, I wanted to forget and I
fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on the deck
and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more
people.

This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not
affect me as much as they did on the corporate business, I just have to
be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000 PCs and 500
servers in 40 countries.

Take care Larry,

Rodolfo




-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Rodolfo,

Was that "forget a bit" a pun?

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Java into Blu-ray

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

http://news.com.com/Java+to+appear+in+n ... 0-1046_3-5
7664
09.html?tag=html.alert

Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
firm plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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#10
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The last estimate I have seen of studios support including the most current studio announcement was
in the order of 40+% for either format, based on the DVD sales of their libraries.

Either disc would be released at a price a bit higher than the current DVD, but very similar to each
other.

Considering that the media would be similar in price, and storage capacity on both is enough for ROM
movies and bonus materials (the larger storage on Blu-ray for personal recording is another market),
the price of stand-alone ROM players decisive for acceptance if differences are large, and they
might be judging by $999 HD DVD announcements, and the $3K Blu-ray recorders already out in Asia,
which "could" mean that their ROM players could cost more than $999, but I doubt it would be due to
the battle between the two formats.

Video games consoles at rock bottom prices have the potential to affect both, ROM movie discs and
stand-alone-player market, if they provide similar features and functionality than
stand-alone-players, and I suppose they won't so a manufacturer like Sony would still be able to
have a market for both products.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

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But how does the playback device affect acceptance? If the PS3 hits the
market in 18 months at $300 ... what affect will that have? Will we be a
that price point anyway by then with the "players"?

And Sony has a pretty deep film library as well, don't they?


-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

This is the first time I saw who was lining up with who on the software
side of the equation. It seems to me that the HD DVD boys have the
deeper film library which should translate into better sales which
should then translate into success for their format over Blu-Ray.

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Larry,

Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?

Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and
actually be capable to do their
jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly
enough for me, not to mention my family, I wanted to forget and I
fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on the deck
and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more
people.

This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not
affect me as much as they did on the corporate business, I just have to
be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000 PCs and 500
servers in 40 countries.

Take care Larry,

Rodolfo




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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


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Rodolfo,

Was that "forget a bit" a pun?

Larry


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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Java into Blu-ray

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http://news.com.com/Java+to+appear+in+n ... 0-1046_3-5
7664
09.html?tag=html.alert

Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
firm plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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I concur. Having said that, without an HD format for DVD what then is
the point of purchasing a 1080P display? I don't think broadcasters or
the cable market are going to be jumping into this full tilt when
they've just spent a fortune to broadcast 1080i. Just my two cents, I
could be wrong.

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:29 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


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I think there are currently two huge factors working against an HD
version of the DVD product.

One, like many others, I think the existence of two formats is going to
be a massively difficult obstacle to success. The track record for this
is very bad and I think it will be a huge turnoff for both the public
and software-stocking retailers.

If I were setting odds in Vegas on the ultimate success of either of the
two competing HD disc formats, I'd open the betting at 10-1 and start
making my plans for retirement in the South of France. I largely base
this on the fact that consumers at large are easily discouraged from
making purchases that aren't 100% risk-free. I don't think you need to
look any further for evidence of this than the still-large percentage of
HDTV owners who don't have a source of HD programming.

Two, I'm very skeptical that we're going to see much software during the
first couple of years after one or more HD-capable DVD formats are out
in the market. The existing DVD market is a huge and precious cash cow
for the movie studios and by all accounts they're nowhere closing to
milking it dry.


Even with a single HD disc format, I'm doubtful that we'd see routine
same-day releases of standard- and high-definition DVD product, because
of the risk of confusion and fear of obsolescence that could cause for
owners of traditional DVD players.

Obviously this wouldn't be an issue for Tips List readers or subscribers
to one or more home theater magazines. But for the much larger casual
DVD-buying public, I think the sudden availability of HD-format DVDs is
likely to create question marks that do more to inhibit than encourage
near-term purchases of traditional DVD product.

It is possible that HD-format discs are released same day and there's
little promotion of their availability, but I suspect that we're more
likely to see most of the initial HD release activity concentrate on
back-catalog films, with same-day releases not becoming routine for at
least a couple of years, possibly longer.

Regards,


Doug
Clearly Resolved Image & Sound

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Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993

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But how does the playback device affect acceptance? If the PS3 hits the
market in 18 months at $300 ... what affect will that have? Will we be
a that price point anyway by then with the "players"?

And Sony has a pretty deep film library as well, don't they?


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This is the first time I saw who was lining up with who on the software
side of the equation. It seems to me that the HD DVD boys have the
deeper film library which should translate into better sales which
should then translate into success for their format over Blu-Ray.

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

-----Original Message-----
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Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:37 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


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Larry,

Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?

Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and
actually be capable to do their
jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly
enough for me, not to mention my family, I wanted to forget and I
fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on the deck
and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more
people.

This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not
affect me as much as they did on the corporate business, I just have to
be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000 PCs and 500
servers in 40 countries.

Take care Larry,

Rodolfo




-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Rodolfo,

Was that "forget a bit" a pun?

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
Of Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Java into Blu-ray

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

http://news.com.com/Java+to+appear+in+n ... 0-1046_3-5
7664
09.html?tag=html.alert

Jason,

Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?

Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
firm plan.

One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
classic software company war.

How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


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I would be inclined to agree except for the original reason given for coming
out with a high def. DVD, and that was because they were running out of
people to sell regular DVDs to. The industry said that by the year 2006
sales would be falling off because the regular buyers of DVDs would have
completed buying the DVD version and a new one would be needed. This was so
they could resell all the movies all over again as they did when we went
from VHS to DVD. Therefore, the industry is very interested in having high
def. DVD become a reality. Personally I don't believe there is enough
difference in picture quality for the average buyer of DVDs to rush out and
buy a player and the high definition version of what they already have even
if the price was exactly the same.

I think we will see players for sale this year and movies to go along with
them as Toshiba has said. How big a hit this is I don't know but I wouldn't
put my money on it being much bigger than SACD and DVD-Audio.

Hugh




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From: "Doug Weil" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I think there are currently two huge factors working against an HD version
> of the DVD product.
>
> One, like many others, I think the existence of two formats is going to be
a
> massively difficult obstacle to success. The track record for this is very
> bad and I think it will be a huge turnoff for both the public and
> software-stocking retailers.
>
> If I were setting odds in Vegas on the ultimate success of either of the
two
> competing HD disc formats, I'd open the betting at 10-1 and start making
my
> plans for retirement in the South of France. I largely base this on the
fact
> that consumers at large are easily discouraged from making purchases that
> aren't 100% risk-free. I don't think you need to look any further for
> evidence of this than the still-large percentage of HDTV owners who don't
> have a source of HD programming.
>
> Two, I'm very skeptical that we're going to see much software during the
> first couple of years after one or more HD-capable DVD formats are out in
> the market. The existing DVD market is a huge and precious cash cow for
the
> movie studios and by all accounts they're nowhere closing to milking it
dry.
>
>
> Even with a single HD disc format, I'm doubtful that we'd see routine
> same-day releases of standard- and high-definition DVD product, because of
> the risk of confusion and fear of obsolescence that could cause for owners
> of traditional DVD players.
>
> Obviously this wouldn't be an issue for Tips List readers or subscribers
to
> one or more home theater magazines. But for the much larger casual
> DVD-buying public, I think the sudden availability of HD-format DVDs is
> likely to create question marks that do more to inhibit than encourage
> near-term purchases of traditional DVD product.
>
> It is possible that HD-format discs are released same day and there's
little
> promotion of their availability, but I suspect that we're more likely to
see
> most of the initial HD release activity concentrate on back-catalog films,
> with same-day releases not becoming routine for at least a couple of
years,
> possibly longer.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Doug
> Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
>
> Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
>
> eMail: [email protected]
> Web: http://www.clearlyresolved.com
>
> Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
> http://www.imagingscience.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:29
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> But how does the playback device affect acceptance? If the PS3 hits the
> market in 18 months at $300 ... what affect will that have? Will we be a
> that price point anyway by then with the "players"?
>
> And Sony has a pretty deep film library as well, don't they?
>
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
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>
> This is the first time I saw who was lining up with who on the software
> side of the equation. It seems to me that the HD DVD boys have the
> deeper film library which should translate into better sales which
> should then translate into success for their format over Blu-Ray.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, Fl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Rodolfo La Maestra
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:37 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Larry,
>
> Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?
>
> Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and
> actually be capable to do their
> jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly
> enough for me, not to mention my family, I wanted to forget and I
> fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on the deck
> and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more
> people.
>
> This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not
> affect me as much as they did on the corporate business, I just have to
> be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000 PCs and 500
> servers in 40 countries.
>
> Take care Larry,
>
> Rodolfo
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Larry Megugorac
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Rodolfo,
>
> Was that "forget a bit" a pun?
>
> Larry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of Rodolfo La Maestra
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Java into Blu-ray
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> http://news.com.com/Java+to+appear+in+n ... 0-1046_3-5
> 7664
> 09.html?tag=html.alert
>
> Jason,
>
> Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?
>
> Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
> firm plan.
>
> One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
> endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
> on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
> classic software company war.
>
> How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
> to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
>
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#13
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Interesting article on PS3 pricing
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18846

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

[email protected] wrote:
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>
>
> But how does the playback device affect acceptance? If the PS3 hits the
> market in 18 months at $300 ... what affect will that have? Will we be a
> that price point anyway by then with the "players"?
>
> And Sony has a pretty deep film library as well, don't they?
>
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
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>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> This is the first time I saw who was lining up with who on the software
> side of the equation. It seems to me that the HD DVD boys have the
> deeper film library which should translate into better sales which
> should then translate into success for their format over Blu-Ray.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, Fl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:37 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Larry,
>
> Not meant that way, but it works well for the statement, doesn't it?
>
> Honestly, 24x7 of IS for 40 years, managing 65 IS professionals (and
> actually be capable to do their
> jobs) from Data Warehouse to web applications to payroll was certainly
> enough for me, not to mention my family, I wanted to forget and I
> fortunately did, I am now very worry enjoying my cappuccinos on the deck
> and helping people about HDTV, writing for mags allow me to help more
> people.
>
> This crap of MS and Sun fighting for their turfs now on my HT does not
> affect me as much as they did on the corporate business, I just have to
> be worry about replacing/or not one DVD player, not 3000 PCs and 500
> servers in 40 countries.
>
> Take care Larry,
>
> Rodolfo
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Larry Megugorac
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:55 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Java into Blu-ray
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Rodolfo,
>
> Was that "forget a bit" a pun?
>
> Larry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:19 AM
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>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> http://news.com.com/Java+to+appear+in+n ... 0-1046_3-5
> 7664
> 09.html?tag=html.alert
>
> Jason,
>
> Remember your question of the standards used of Hi Def DVD formats?
>
> Is a continuous process, someone call it evolution, I call it lack of a
> firm plan.
>
> One day before Microsoft declared that they were not necessarily
> endorsing either format when they joined Toshiba, but now, having Java
> on the other side, the Hi Def DVD format war has been joined by the
> classic software company war.
>
> How ironic, I thought that retiring from 40 years of IS would allow me
> to forget a bit about the Windows vs. Java saga.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
>
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