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Rodolfo,
I grant you the world is not perfect.
>>plasmas should become a better value, lower price, larger, better
>>colors, etc., with similar burn-in worries.
Similar burn in worries? Where did you get that? Plasma can't touch an
LCD in this area nor can a CRT DV. All I have stated is that LCD is not
impervious; it is possible.
As for manufacturer claims... I stick to what I have already stated. If
the manufacturer chooses to not protect themselves from the liability of
their product by providing full disclosure of their products
capabilities and limitations then they must also assume the liability of
of doing so. In my LG example that means taking the display back with
minimum hassle rather than making the consumer, dealer or distributor
keep it.
That was the case with CRT RP and burn in and you will note that
suddenly manufacturers started putting disclaimers in the owners manuals
about it so they could not be sued.
The key is getting such cases to court as that is what forces the change.
Richard Fisher
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Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
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> Richard,
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> Interesting how things turn around.
>
> Would you take them to court because they use that as one main differentiator from plasma and CRT to sell their panels. Is that meaning that their sales speech was actually a dirty secret to the public?
>
> What happens now from the plasma point of view? Should they do a class-action suit? This is similar to what we were discussing recently. There is no way to win as a consumer in this market, they will make you believe what you want to believe after being drilled on the head often enough.
>
> Now that plasmas have the features of image shifting at intervals to protect the panel, a feature I have not seen on LCDs (perhaps to avoid looking contradictory to the bragging of LCD "never worry about burn-in"), plasmas should become a better value, lower price, larger, better colors, etc., with similar burn-in worries.
>
> This was discussed several years ago on the mag, and I remember there was a dealer on the discussion that suddenly joined the exchange and said: baloney, they had a LCD panel on the showroom that was so burn-in for fixed logos that they had to turn if off, the unit was apparently on most of the day, but which other TV doesn't on a dealership?
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> Bottom line, do not ever trust claims without facts, this is like the FDA, they expect the public to do the actual test, if you do not get cancer taking pill ZZ, great, by the time the true is out the approvers are retired.
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> Best Regards,
>
> Rodolfo La Maestra
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>
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> Subject: Re: LCD Burn-In ????
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> What a coincidence... somebody at NESDA asked the same thing and one of
> the reps said what I said...
>
> He did add that LCD is more resilient than CRT DV but he also has no
> specs as to when and how long...
>
> As he pointed out, too many variables
>
> What kind of programming, contrast settings, brightness, IRE levels, ect..
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> Richard Fisher
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>>You are correct but there have been cases where it did remain requiring
>>replacment of the LCD panel.
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>>Richard Fisher
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>>>"Image retention" also includes a temporary phenomenon that LCDs are
>>>famous for. This "image retention", which goes away in about 30
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