Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"

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#1
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Rodolfo and Richard,

The 2006 Mits Micro-Displays are said to come with ATSC tuners and 250 GB HD
DVR. Can these displays even record HD from a Satellite source or just the
Cable Card slot they come with?

Thanks,

Larry


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#2
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Larry,

Without getting into the features of connectivity/external acceptance of that model in particular I
believe that a general response could provide you with the information you need, unfortunately, as
follows:

The HDTV does not have a satellite tuner, no TV has, except for first generations RCA HDTV CRTs back
in the late 90s. Which means you need an external HD-STB for satellite to tune the channel.

The problem is how do you take that signal out of that HD-STB for recording, these boxes are famous
for their of lack 1394 outputs, no HD-STB for satellite can take an HD signal out via 1394 in
compressed form for external recording, other than certain modification the company www.169time.com
does to some satellite STBs to provide exactly that capability, expensive though, which I do not
think is your case.

The satellite box would typically give you component analog, VGA 15 pin D-sub, DVI or HDMI,
connections, but no 1394. Cable and OTA boxes do, they are mandated by the FCC (actually, satellite
was mandated as well but they fly under the radar ignoring the small print in the footnotes of the
official FCC documents, but that is for another book).

So regardless if your Mitsubishi "was or not" beautifully equipped with external ability to receive
1394 from outside sources and store it on the internal DVR (in addition to store what it tunes), and
regardless the extra money you paid for OTA and Cable integrated tuners you might not need, and for
the DVR, and for the 1394 HAVi network, if you are a satellite subscriber you are unable to use all
that functionality for your primary purpose of recording satellite, because there is no way you can
take the HD signal out from the satellite HD-STB to feed your Mitsu, or to feed an external
DVR/D-VHS for the case. The only option would be an HD-DVR satellite STB, duplicating the Mitsu DVR
cost, and the OTA tuner cost.

Have you hear from me over the years the pros/cons about the extra cost of integration (now
complicated with internal DVRs) for satellite subscribers? Sorry your pocket is finding it the hard
way.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra





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Larry Megugorac
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:28 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"


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Rodolfo and Richard,

The 2006 Mits Micro-Displays are said to come with ATSC tuners and 250 GB HD
DVR. Can these displays even record HD from a Satellite source or just the
Cable Card slot they come with?

Thanks,

Larry


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#3
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Rodolfo,


Thanks for your, as always, detailed response. I did not buy this display
and your answer confirmed what I figured would be the case.

So what I thought is correct is that the only way that set can record HD is
when the signal is received over their supplied tuner.

I also agree that the most "universal" way for the Manufacturers to provide
displays would be to provide a "monitor" only and let the customer concern
himself with providing the signal to be feed it (as well dispensing with
those cheap speakers included with the sets). That also would be best in
cost options for the consumer.

Thanks Again!!


Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Larry,

Without getting into the features of connectivity/external acceptance of
that model in particular I
believe that a general response could provide you with the information you
need, unfortunately, as
follows:

The HDTV does not have a satellite tuner, no TV has, except for first
generations RCA HDTV CRTs back
in the late 90s. Which means you need an external HD-STB for satellite to
tune the channel.

The problem is how do you take that signal out of that HD-STB for recording,
these boxes are famous
for their of lack 1394 outputs, no HD-STB for satellite can take an HD
signal out via 1394 in
compressed form for external recording, other than certain modification the
company www.169time.com
does to some satellite STBs to provide exactly that capability, expensive
though, which I do not
think is your case.

The satellite box would typically give you component analog, VGA 15 pin
D-sub, DVI or HDMI,
connections, but no 1394. Cable and OTA boxes do, they are mandated by the
FCC (actually, satellite
was mandated as well but they fly under the radar ignoring the small print
in the footnotes of the
official FCC documents, but that is for another book).

So regardless if your Mitsubishi "was or not" beautifully equipped with
external ability to receive
1394 from outside sources and store it on the internal DVR (in addition to
store what it tunes), and
regardless the extra money you paid for OTA and Cable integrated tuners you
might not need, and for
the DVR, and for the 1394 HAVi network, if you are a satellite subscriber
you are unable to use all
that functionality for your primary purpose of recording satellite, because
there is no way you can
take the HD signal out from the satellite HD-STB to feed your Mitsu, or to
feed an external
DVR/D-VHS for the case. The only option would be an HD-DVR satellite STB,
duplicating the Mitsu DVR
cost, and the OTA tuner cost.

Have you hear from me over the years the pros/cons about the extra cost of
integration (now
complicated with internal DVRs) for satellite subscribers? Sorry your
pocket is finding it the hard
way.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra





-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:28 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Rodolfo and Richard,

The 2006 Mits Micro-Displays are said to come with ATSC tuners and 250 GB HD
DVR. Can these displays even record HD from a Satellite source or just the
Cable Card slot they come with?

Thanks,

Larry


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#4
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Larry,

Regarding your statement: "So what I thought is correct is that the only way that set can record HD
is when the signal is received over their supplied tuner".

I did not address that part, I just addressed the fact that you wanted a satellite signal feeding
the unit.

It might happen that the set can receive 1394 from an external device and let the signal be recorded
by its internal DVR, I did not do that research because the satellite limitation was enough to
address your question.

A quick look at the user manual on their web site could provide the answer.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 1:07 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Rodolfo,


Thanks for your, as always, detailed response. I did not buy this display
and your answer confirmed what I figured would be the case.

So what I thought is correct is that the only way that set can record HD is
when the signal is received over their supplied tuner.

I also agree that the most "universal" way for the Manufacturers to provide
displays would be to provide a "monitor" only and let the customer concern
himself with providing the signal to be feed it (as well dispensing with
those cheap speakers included with the sets). That also would be best in
cost options for the consumer.

Thanks Again!!


Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Larry,

Without getting into the features of connectivity/external acceptance of
that model in particular I
believe that a general response could provide you with the information you
need, unfortunately, as
follows:

The HDTV does not have a satellite tuner, no TV has, except for first
generations RCA HDTV CRTs back
in the late 90s. Which means you need an external HD-STB for satellite to
tune the channel.

The problem is how do you take that signal out of that HD-STB for recording,
these boxes are famous
for their of lack 1394 outputs, no HD-STB for satellite can take an HD
signal out via 1394 in
compressed form for external recording, other than certain modification the
company www.169time.com
does to some satellite STBs to provide exactly that capability, expensive
though, which I do not
think is your case.

The satellite box would typically give you component analog, VGA 15 pin
D-sub, DVI or HDMI,
connections, but no 1394. Cable and OTA boxes do, they are mandated by the
FCC (actually, satellite
was mandated as well but they fly under the radar ignoring the small print
in the footnotes of the
official FCC documents, but that is for another book).

So regardless if your Mitsubishi "was or not" beautifully equipped with
external ability to receive
1394 from outside sources and store it on the internal DVR (in addition to
store what it tunes), and
regardless the extra money you paid for OTA and Cable integrated tuners you
might not need, and for
the DVR, and for the 1394 HAVi network, if you are a satellite subscriber
you are unable to use all
that functionality for your primary purpose of recording satellite, because
there is no way you can
take the HD signal out from the satellite HD-STB to feed your Mitsu, or to
feed an external
DVR/D-VHS for the case. The only option would be an HD-DVR satellite STB,
duplicating the Mitsu DVR
cost, and the OTA tuner cost.

Have you hear from me over the years the pros/cons about the extra cost of
integration (now
complicated with internal DVRs) for satellite subscribers? Sorry your
pocket is finding it the hard
way.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra





-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:28 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Rodolfo and Richard,

The 2006 Mits Micro-Displays are said to come with ATSC tuners and 250 GB HD
DVR. Can these displays even record HD from a Satellite source or just the
Cable Card slot they come with?

Thanks,

Larry


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#5
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Rodolfo,

Thanks again for your explanation. I was hoping Displays that would
include DVR's might eventually let you record whatever signal that was being
fed to it. It sounds like that, due to copy protection would never let that
occur.


Thanks Again,


Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:31 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Larry,

Regarding your statement: "So what I thought is correct is that the only way
that set can record HD
is when the signal is received over their supplied tuner".

I did not address that part, I just addressed the fact that you wanted a
satellite signal feeding
the unit.

It might happen that the set can receive 1394 from an external device and
let the signal be recorded
by its internal DVR, I did not do that research because the satellite
limitation was enough to
address your question.

A quick look at the user manual on their web site could provide the answer.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 1:07 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Rodolfo,


Thanks for your, as always, detailed response. I did not buy this display
and your answer confirmed what I figured would be the case.

So what I thought is correct is that the only way that set can record HD is
when the signal is received over their supplied tuner.

I also agree that the most "universal" way for the Manufacturers to provide
displays would be to provide a "monitor" only and let the customer concern
himself with providing the signal to be feed it (as well dispensing with
those cheap speakers included with the sets). That also would be best in
cost options for the consumer.

Thanks Again!!


Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Rodolfo La Maestra
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:33 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Larry,

Without getting into the features of connectivity/external acceptance of
that model in particular I
believe that a general response could provide you with the information you
need, unfortunately, as
follows:

The HDTV does not have a satellite tuner, no TV has, except for first
generations RCA HDTV CRTs back
in the late 90s. Which means you need an external HD-STB for satellite to
tune the channel.

The problem is how do you take that signal out of that HD-STB for recording,
these boxes are famous
for their of lack 1394 outputs, no HD-STB for satellite can take an HD
signal out via 1394 in
compressed form for external recording, other than certain modification the
company www.169time.com
does to some satellite STBs to provide exactly that capability, expensive
though, which I do not
think is your case.

The satellite box would typically give you component analog, VGA 15 pin
D-sub, DVI or HDMI,
connections, but no 1394. Cable and OTA boxes do, they are mandated by the
FCC (actually, satellite
was mandated as well but they fly under the radar ignoring the small print
in the footnotes of the
official FCC documents, but that is for another book).

So regardless if your Mitsubishi "was or not" beautifully equipped with
external ability to receive
1394 from outside sources and store it on the internal DVR (in addition to
store what it tunes), and
regardless the extra money you paid for OTA and Cable integrated tuners you
might not need, and for
the DVR, and for the 1394 HAVi network, if you are a satellite subscriber
you are unable to use all
that functionality for your primary purpose of recording satellite, because
there is no way you can
take the HD signal out from the satellite HD-STB to feed your Mitsu, or to
feed an external
DVR/D-VHS for the case. The only option would be an HD-DVR satellite STB,
duplicating the Mitsu DVR
cost, and the OTA tuner cost.

Have you hear from me over the years the pros/cons about the extra cost of
integration (now
complicated with internal DVRs) for satellite subscribers? Sorry your
pocket is finding it the hard
way.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra





-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Larry Megugorac
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:28 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Mitsubishi VideWD-62927 : 62"


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


Rodolfo and Richard,

The 2006 Mits Micro-Displays are said to come with ATSC tuners and 250 GB HD
DVR. Can these displays even record HD from a Satellite source or just the
Cable Card slot they come with?

Thanks,

Larry


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#6
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Simply put... no. Sorry.

You can only record that which your tuner directly receives.

Happy New year!

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Larry Megugorac wrote:
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> Rodolfo and Richard,
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> DVR. Can these displays even record HD from a Satellite source or just the
> Cable Card slot they come with?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
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