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Robert,
I am sure you know this.
6.1 and 7.1 using center back speakers are here, and for a while already.
You could add that center back channel even if no discrete channel is
present on the content. Either your 6.1-7.1 capable pre/pro/receiver will
artificially decode (create) a matrix version from the left/right rear
surrounds and send the common signals to the back center, or it will send
the actual center back channel to that speaker if the recording has it in
any form.
The matrix for the back is similar to what Dolby Prologic does for decades
with front L/R to derive the center front, in fact you can even get an old
Prologic pre/amp and use it just for the center back to extract the common
signal from L/R rear surrounds and create a fuller sound image across the
back, while on suitable discrete content the speaker can be used for its own
directional soundtrack channel.
Herby Hancock demo of 10.1 was great a couple of years ago on the hi-end
audio section of the Alexis at CES but I do not see that format flying to
consumers anytime soon.
The ceiling speaker I am talking about is actually a 8.1 system that
reproduces soundtrack height directional sound located above the audience
heads between the front center and the back center (if present). There was
at least one war movie created with such channel a few years ago, but you
can still create you own Prologic decoding between the center front/back
speakers in a similar fashion to the above to bring to that height/ceiling
speaker only those sounds that are common between those two center channels,
usually the panning sounds of objects moving front/back/front over the heads
of the audience, a helicopter, an airplane, etc., when the object fully
moves to the front or back the common sound drops from either speaker and
the decoder would automatically make it drop from the ceiling.
Then you install floor transducers across the room, and a D-Box system on
the seating area, and the only thing is left is converting your theater
seats into beds, a king size bed of course, I am almost there already.
In other words, HDHT never ends.
Best Regards,
Rodolfo La Maestra
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of Dr
Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:34 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Cinemascope in HD, brief response to Robert
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Rodolfo,
At 01:56 AM 1/18/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>We have the same illness Robert, I have not seen yet half of the movies I
>bought.
Understood (from a personal perspective). I'll temper our affliction
a bit by mentioning that the reason that I haven't "watched" a lot of
what I've purposed is because the content involves classic movies
that I've already seen and want to own (and sometimes I watch the
extras first), or the same with classic television (if that's not an
oxymoron <g>).
>Remember when each of those LDs were $50 a piece, talking about sw
>investment for just non-anamorphic NTSC letterbox.
You're talking to the king of the $125 Criterion Boxed Set. Of
course at $99 from a vendor like Ken Crane's we thought, at the time,
we were getting a tremendous bargain.
>You do not have a center back surround? Man, your theater is incomplete!!
>Just kidding.
I know that 10.1 sound (and beyond) is probably on the way but by
that time my brain will probably have lost the ability to process
directionality.
Take care.
-- RAF
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Robert,
I am sure you know this.
6.1 and 7.1 using center back speakers are here, and for a while already.
You could add that center back channel even if no discrete channel is
present on the content. Either your 6.1-7.1 capable pre/pro/receiver will
artificially decode (create) a matrix version from the left/right rear
surrounds and send the common signals to the back center, or it will send
the actual center back channel to that speaker if the recording has it in
any form.
The matrix for the back is similar to what Dolby Prologic does for decades
with front L/R to derive the center front, in fact you can even get an old
Prologic pre/amp and use it just for the center back to extract the common
signal from L/R rear surrounds and create a fuller sound image across the
back, while on suitable discrete content the speaker can be used for its own
directional soundtrack channel.
Herby Hancock demo of 10.1 was great a couple of years ago on the hi-end
audio section of the Alexis at CES but I do not see that format flying to
consumers anytime soon.
The ceiling speaker I am talking about is actually a 8.1 system that
reproduces soundtrack height directional sound located above the audience
heads between the front center and the back center (if present). There was
at least one war movie created with such channel a few years ago, but you
can still create you own Prologic decoding between the center front/back
speakers in a similar fashion to the above to bring to that height/ceiling
speaker only those sounds that are common between those two center channels,
usually the panning sounds of objects moving front/back/front over the heads
of the audience, a helicopter, an airplane, etc., when the object fully
moves to the front or back the common sound drops from either speaker and
the decoder would automatically make it drop from the ceiling.
Then you install floor transducers across the room, and a D-Box system on
the seating area, and the only thing is left is converting your theater
seats into beds, a king size bed of course, I am almost there already.
In other words, HDHT never ends.
Best Regards,
Rodolfo La Maestra
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of Dr
Robert A Fowkes
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:34 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Cinemascope in HD, brief response to Robert
----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
Rodolfo,
At 01:56 AM 1/18/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>We have the same illness Robert, I have not seen yet half of the movies I
>bought.
Understood (from a personal perspective). I'll temper our affliction
a bit by mentioning that the reason that I haven't "watched" a lot of
what I've purposed is because the content involves classic movies
that I've already seen and want to own (and sometimes I watch the
extras first), or the same with classic television (if that's not an
oxymoron <g>).
>Remember when each of those LDs were $50 a piece, talking about sw
>investment for just non-anamorphic NTSC letterbox.
You're talking to the king of the $125 Criterion Boxed Set. Of
course at $99 from a vendor like Ken Crane's we thought, at the time,
we were getting a tremendous bargain.
>You do not have a center back surround? Man, your theater is incomplete!!
>Just kidding.
I know that 10.1 sound (and beyond) is probably on the way but by
that time my brain will probably have lost the ability to process
directionality.
Take care.
-- RAF
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