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Shane,
I follow the format thing with only mild curiosity, but I believe the
authoring encoding issues with MPEG and BD are widely reported. I suppose I
could dig some up or a Google would do. You can't play back a disc until you
cleanly get the video on there in the first place
Somewhere this week(and I didn't note where) I was reading a report on the
Demo of the upcoming Sony player. Reviewers came away less than impressed
after viewing what was clearly still a prototype level piece of hardware.
Since that's only about 60 days from release, there should be pilot run, if
not early production level gear available. If reports are leaking out that
your competitor has a slight edge in playback quality over what you're
doing, wouldn't you want to put a best step forward and "Wow" them in such a
demo?
I'd be happy with even one report that says a commercially produced BD disc
was playing on a Sony player, especially since this is their baby. Again,
keeping in mind the 6 week lead time between production start and sitting on
a store shelf. Half of the players you listed there would have to be in
production....TODAY, because AFAIK the initial production of BD based
products is done in the Far East.
Going back to those earlier revenue reports, is a sale still a sale when the
unit is later returned?(see Samsung). Before you laugh, stranger creative
accounting practices have been used, like say XM Radio counting subs which
are nothing more than produced automobiles with XM gear that has not yet
been sold to end users.
Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:03 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: New Article: HD DVD vs. Blu-ray: And the Winner is ... No One
>
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>
> Hi Bob,
>
> There is only one commercial player out right now: the Samsung. And yes,
> it is having issues. Here is the "current" targeted release schedule for
> the rest of the camp:
>
> Pioneer mid-sept ~$1500
> Panasonic Sept <$1500
> Philips Sept $1000
> Sony Oct $1000
> Sharp TBD TBD
> LGE TBD TBD
>
> The issue with the Samsung player is a Samsung issue, not a "Blu-ray"
> issue. As I understand it, Samsung shipped the player with a noise
> reduction circuit cranked all the way up, resulting in an extremely
> softened picture. Something I understand they will be fixing via
> firmware update.
>
> I don't expect any of Samsung's difficulties to be prevalent in the Sony
> (or whichever) player that comes out next. And I have heard of no
> production delays or other manufacturing difficulties for any
> manufacturer. For all I know, they could be producing units now.
>
> Again, I reiterate my request for the source of your claims of
> production issues and/or other "technical hurdles" related to either the
> upcoming Blu-ray players or the PS3. I would like to report on it, but
> will not perpetuate rumors.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shane Sturgeon
> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
> Cell: (937) 532-8135
>
www.hdtvmagazine.com
>
>
>
> Bob Mankin wrote:
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> >
> > Shane,
> >
> > I think consumers are widely expecting the PS3 to serve as both a gaming
> > console AND a commercial video playback device. I challenge you to find
> a
> > commercial player using BD right now that doesn't have issues.
> >
> > That being said, perhaps Sony values those holiday dollars so much that
> it
> > rolls the dice and ships the PS3 with the video playback still in
> > development. That in my mind would be a PR disaster later and Sony has
> > already had too many missteps. They can ill afford the bad press.
> >
> > I don't think anyone in the general public has a real good handle on the
> > technical hurdles Sony is dealing with today. There is plenty of
> speculation
> > about what the real problems are and how it will affect current
> projected
> > release dates, my own opinions included.
> >
> > But there are some known milestones within the industry, one of which is
> you
> > better be rolling actual production units down an assembly line 6 weeks
> > before you expect to have them on the shelves. That would put Oct. 1 as
> an
> > effective drop dead date to meet the proposed holiday market. Either
> they
> > have overcome the software issues, the authoring issues, the media cost
> > issues, etc. or as I said, they roll the dice.
> >
> > We'll know pretty soon. I'm sure there will be a PR the second the
> > production kickoff date is set in stone.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of
> >> Shane Sturgeon
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:32 AM
> >> To: HDTV Magazine
> >> Subject: Re: New Article: HD DVD vs. Blu-ray: And the Winner is ... No
> One
> >>
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> >>
> >> Just to be clear, this is not propaganda coming from either camp. It is
> >> from a third party reporting agency.
> >>
> >> I do not expect a slip in release date for PS3 ... doing so would miss
> >> the holiday season and that is a VERY high price to pay.
> >>
> >> Where are you reading reports of R&D issues? Is it a credible source,
> or
> >> just internet blogs? Sorry to be so doubting.
> >>
> >> Shane Sturgeon
> >> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
> >> Cell: (937) 532-8135
> >>
www.hdtvmagazine.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob Mankin wrote:
> >>
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> >>>
> >>> I would take the propaganda in that format war with a large dose of
> >>>
> >> salt.
> >>
> >>> They are sticking with the November release of PS3 when reports of R&D
> >>> issues still abound. Production for those units would need to begin
> >>>
> >> within
> >>
> >>> 45 days to make November, and unless they have made big progress
> >>>
> >> recently
> >>
> >>> which has not yet been reported, I expect a slip in the release date
> to
> >>>
> >> be
> >>
> >>> announced.
> >>>
> >>> Keep in mind the BD drives are also used for storage which could
> account
> >>>
> >> for
> >>
> >>> some of the revenue claims.
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
> Behalf
> >>>>
> >> Of
> >>
> >>>> Aaron W. Thompson
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:53 AM
> >>>> To: HDTV Magazine
> >>>> Subject: Re: New Article: HD DVD vs. Blu-ray: And the Winner is ...
> No
> >>>>
> >> One
> >>
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> >>>>
> >>>> Where did the info come from that BD players are ahead in sales? That
> >>>>
> >> just
> >>
> >>>> doesn't seem right. The stores by me have had numerous returns for
> the
> >>>> Sasmung BD player and the opposite for the HD DVD player. How can the
> >>>>
> >> $900
> >>
> >>>> BD player be ahead of the $450 HD DVD player in sales and it was
> >>>>
> >> released
> >>
> >>>> 2
> >>>> months later. Something is wrong with that figure.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Shane Sturgeon" <
[email protected]>
> >>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <
[email protected]>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:32 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: New Article: HD DVD vs. Blu-ray: And the Winner is ...
> No
> >>>>
> >> One
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Actually, since the article was published earlier today, I was able
> to
> >>>>> talk with Mark Knox, the Toshiba/HD DVD spokesperson as well as a
> >>>>> gentleman from Zoran, who is one of the silicon makers for both
> >>>>>
> >> formats.
> >>
> >>>> A
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> few key take-aways from that discussion:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - There is nothing in the license for either Blu-ray or HD DVD that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> would
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> prevent a combo player.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - A combo player would be almost a complete duplication of
> >>>>>
> >> EVERYTHING:
> >>
> >>>>> silicon, licensing, optics, drives, etc. Only a few components would
> >>>>>
> >> be
> >>
> >>>>> able to be consolidated. So if a combo player does come to market,
> it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> will
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> likely be at a price which is not much less than the combined market
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> price
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> of each formats' players at that time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Shane Sturgeon
> >>>>> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
> >>>>> Cell: (937) 532-8135
> >>>>>
www.hdtvmagazine.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nicetry wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> a productive overview of the format war keep up the
> >>>>>> ggod work --- HDTV Magazine <
[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A new article has been posted to the HDTV Magazine
> >>>>>>> website:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> HD DVD vs. Blu-ray: And the Winner is ... No One
> >>>>>>> by Shane Sturgeon
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Excerpt:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> >>>>>>
> >> -
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> By now, I'm sure you've read a dozen articles like
> >>>>>>> this one. In fact, I debated about whether or not to
> >>>>>>> title it as such, as I was afraid most of you would
> >>>>>>> skip it over. Obviously that is not the case if you
> >>>>>>> are now reading these words.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you are withholding your Next-Gen DVD player
> >>>>>>> purchase until this so-called format war has a
> >>>>>>> winner, it won't help ... there likely won't be one
> >>>>>>> ... and there definitely won't be one any time soon.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> >>>>>>
> >> -
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Full Article:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Enjoy,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -- Dale & Shane
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