New construction

Started by jmbeam Aug 13, 2005 9 posts
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#1
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I would like to get the opinions of the HDTV tips list if they were
constructing a new home what kind of wiring would they have installed
throughout the home. In addition what they may add to future proof the home.
It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then to perform this work later.

Thanks

James H.



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#2
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I haven't researched this in a few years.

Yes its easier to pre-wire than retrofit. Much.

If I was in the position to prewire a house, and had
the funds I would wire every room. Perhaps even with
multiple outlets depending on room use, etc.

Wiring I would consider looking into:

Coax (RG6)
Cat-5
Fiber
Phone
Low voltage
Alarm system
Wiring for IR remotes
Temperature control

I realize this list is a mix of wiring types and
usage. Some of the home automation stuff is becoming
networkable, and therefore by researching the type of
automation you may want in the home, may help
determine what interconnect you want.

Then there is the terminal box where everything
connects together.



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> constructing a new home what kind of wiring would
> they have installed
> throughout the home. In addition what they may add
> to future proof the home.
> It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then to
> perform this work later.
>
> Thanks
>
> James H.
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#3
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Use a structured wiring cable of 2 cat5 and 2 RG6, plus at least one fiber.
Perry's suggestion of low voltage is good two. RJ-11 in every room should be
automatic, though you'll find it will probably be another cat5 cable with a
couple of leads clipped.

Consider where you might want an additional phone line. I had one for a
planned home office.

Don't settle for a single cat5. I requested 2 per room on my new home.
You'lll have your Internet using one and if you get fancy with whole house
entertainment solutions, you'll want that second one.

Home theater wiring in specific rooms, if you feel the need. I had it put in
the family room and bonus room. That's for 5.1 or 7.1 configurations.

Wire all cat5 and RG6 to a central wiring closet. Bring in 4-6 RG6 from the
exterior demarcation point to the wiring closet. Probably overkill, but the
incremental cost is cheap versus crawling around the attic later. I used 2
of my 4 for a Voom install.

You can go absolutely nuts trying to plan for all scenarios, so I would
consider the above a minimum for new home construction today.

Bob





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> I would like to get the opinions of the HDTV tips list if they were
> constructing a new home what kind of wiring would they have installed
> throughout the home. In addition what they may add to future proof the
> home.
> It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then to perform this work
> later.
>
> Thanks
>
> James H.
>
>
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#4
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Perry, thanks for your input. Do you know if there is any advantage of Cat-5
over Cat-6?


On 8/13/05 5:09 PM, "Perry Yastrov" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I haven't researched this in a few years.
>
> Yes its easier to pre-wire than retrofit. Much.
>
> If I was in the position to prewire a house, and had
> the funds I would wire every room. Perhaps even with
> multiple outlets depending on room use, etc.
>
> Wiring I would consider looking into:
>
> Coax (RG6)
> Cat-5
> Fiber
> Phone
> Low voltage
> Alarm system
> Wiring for IR remotes
> Temperature control
>
> I realize this list is a mix of wiring types and
> usage. Some of the home automation stuff is becoming
> networkable, and therefore by researching the type of
> automation you may want in the home, may help
> determine what interconnect you want.
>
> Then there is the terminal box where everything
> connects together.
>
>
>
> --- James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
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>> I would like to get the opinions of the HDTV tips
>> list if they were
>> constructing a new home what kind of wiring would
>> they have installed
>> throughout the home. In addition what they may add
>> to future proof the home.
>> It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then to
>> perform this work later.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> James H.
>>
>>
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#5
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Cat6 can provide a little more than twice the
bandwidth as cat5, but is about three times the cost.

Most home networks are fine with cat5.

If you've got money to burn, it wouldn't hurt to
install cat6.

--- James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Perry, thanks for your input. Do you know if there
> is any advantage of Cat-5
> over Cat-6?
>
>
> On 8/13/05 5:09 PM, "Perry Yastrov"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > I haven't researched this in a few years.
> >
> > Yes its easier to pre-wire than retrofit. Much.
> >
> > If I was in the position to prewire a house, and
> had
> > the funds I would wire every room. Perhaps even
> with
> > multiple outlets depending on room use, etc.
> >
> > Wiring I would consider looking into:
> >
> > Coax (RG6)
> > Cat-5
> > Fiber
> > Phone
> > Low voltage
> > Alarm system
> > Wiring for IR remotes
> > Temperature control
> >
> > I realize this list is a mix of wiring types and
> > usage. Some of the home automation stuff is
> becoming
> > networkable, and therefore by researching the type
> of
> > automation you may want in the home, may help
> > determine what interconnect you want.
> >
> > Then there is the terminal box where everything
> > connects together.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I would like to get the opinions of the HDTV tips
> >> list if they were
> >> constructing a new home what kind of wiring would
> >> they have installed
> >> throughout the home. In addition what they may
> add
> >> to future proof the home.
> >> It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then
> to
> >> perform this work later.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> James H.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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#6
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If you've got money to burn, install fiber.

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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Cat6 can provide a little more than twice the
bandwidth as cat5, but is about three times the cost.

Most home networks are fine with cat5.

If you've got money to burn, it wouldn't hurt to
install cat6.

--- James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Perry, thanks for your input. Do you know if there
> is any advantage of Cat-5
> over Cat-6?
>
>
> On 8/13/05 5:09 PM, "Perry Yastrov"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > I haven't researched this in a few years.
> >
> > Yes its easier to pre-wire than retrofit. Much.
> >
> > If I was in the position to prewire a house, and
> had
> > the funds I would wire every room. Perhaps even
> with
> > multiple outlets depending on room use, etc.
> >
> > Wiring I would consider looking into:
> >
> > Coax (RG6)
> > Cat-5
> > Fiber
> > Phone
> > Low voltage
> > Alarm system
> > Wiring for IR remotes
> > Temperature control
> >
> > I realize this list is a mix of wiring types and
> > usage. Some of the home automation stuff is
> becoming
> > networkable, and therefore by researching the type
> of
> > automation you may want in the home, may help
> > determine what interconnect you want.
> >
> > Then there is the terminal box where everything
> > connects together.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I would like to get the opinions of the HDTV tips
> >> list if they were
> >> constructing a new home what kind of wiring would
> >> they have installed
> >> throughout the home. In addition what they may
> add
> >> to future proof the home.
> >> It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then
> to
> >> perform this work later.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> James H.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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#7
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Category 6 cable is rated for gigabit (and above) ethernet. Typical
category 5 cable is rated for 100 megabit ethernet. If I remember
correctly, the category 6 cable has a higher twist ratio to provide
better noise protection. The cost difference isn't terribly great so
I would recommend cat 6. Category 5 and 6 cable is spec'd for 100M
cable length so it should be adaquate for all by the most massive
homes.

I also concur with the recommendations above. At least 2 RG6 and 2
Cat 6. I would personally probably go with 4 of each as you never
can tell what new toys we will want to connect. :') The fiber and low
voltage are also good ideas.

Jeff

On 8/13/05, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Perry, thanks for your input. Do you know if there is any advantage of Cat-5
> over Cat-6?
>
>
> On 8/13/05 5:09 PM, "Perry Yastrov" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > I haven't researched this in a few years.
> >
> > Yes its easier to pre-wire than retrofit. Much.
> >
> > If I was in the position to prewire a house, and had
> > the funds I would wire every room. Perhaps even with
> > multiple outlets depending on room use, etc.
> >
> > Wiring I would consider looking into:
> >
> > Coax (RG6)
> > Cat-5
> > Fiber
> > Phone
> > Low voltage
> > Alarm system
> > Wiring for IR remotes
> > Temperature control
> >
> > I realize this list is a mix of wiring types and
> > usage. Some of the home automation stuff is becoming
> > networkable, and therefore by researching the type of
> > automation you may want in the home, may help
> > determine what interconnect you want.
> >
> > Then there is the terminal box where everything
> > connects together.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I would like to get the opinions of the HDTV tips
> >> list if they were
> >> constructing a new home what kind of wiring would
> >> they have installed
> >> throughout the home. In addition what they may add
> >> to future proof the home.
> >> It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then to
> >> perform this work later.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> James H.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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#8
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Mr. Healy,

Most of the new construction work we do puts a 2x2 (2 cat5e and 2 RG6 quad
shield) at every TV location, the idea is to allow for CATV and satellite
since diplexing them on one cable with digital cable system is a major pain.
Good RG-6 can be had with a solid copper center conductor so you can use it
for baseband video distribution (security cameras etc.)along with phone or
data service to these locations. You can get cat 5e in colors to make
deciphering this bundle of wires easier in the future. (for example we use
blue for phone, green for data and gray for audio control keypads and remote
linking) Cat 6 uses a plastic divider inside the cable to maintain the
distribution of the conductors inside the jacket, I think it's overkill for
most houses but we do it occasionally. Fiber lacks standards for
applications once in a while we get a client who believes they absolutely
have to have it and we install it, we haven't had any of these folks
actually use it yet. We use cat5e for all of our phone connections so one
can use a phone system someday or reconfigure the jack for data. I always
run a pair of RG-6s to the attic for FM antenna and/or off air TV reception.
It's a good idea in new construction to run a 1 1/2" to 2" conduit to the
attic (depending on house style) incase you want to get additional "stuff"
up there later. Audio wiring requirements will vary with the system chosen
you'll want to figure this out before wiring or else you may waste tons of
time and $ putting in wiring that is either not needed or not where it needs
to be. Find a good installation firm to help you with decisions if you
decide to do audio. Cedia.org is the web site for the Custom Electronic
design and installation association and is a good resource for dealer who
value training and are primarily involved in the custom side of the
business. Avoid companies that work out of their trucks, lack demonstration
facilities and can't provide you with some sort of references.

We run all the wiring in a home-run configuration, it's the only way to fly.


Photograph all your walls/ceilings before insulation goes in to aid in
finding lost wires or for future additions or repairs (plumbers and
electricians love you if you have this when a problem occurs).

Cheers,
Joe Hart

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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
James Healy
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:55 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: New construction

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I would like to get the opinions of the HDTV tips list if they were
constructing a new home what kind of wiring would they have installed
throughout the home. In addition what they may add to future proof the home.
It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then to perform this work later.

Thanks

James H.



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#9
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I've had a gigabit network for 4 years on Cat5e cable. Gigabit is designed
to run on Cat5e. Get Cat6 if it doesn't cost too much, otherwise Cat5e will
be sufficient.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Odell" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: New construction


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Category 6 cable is rated for gigabit (and above) ethernet. Typical
category 5 cable is rated for 100 megabit ethernet. If I remember
correctly, the category 6 cable has a higher twist ratio to provide
better noise protection. The cost difference isn't terribly great so
I would recommend cat 6. Category 5 and 6 cable is spec'd for 100M
cable length so it should be adaquate for all by the most massive
homes.

I also concur with the recommendations above. At least 2 RG6 and 2
Cat 6. I would personally probably go with 4 of each as you never
can tell what new toys we will want to connect. :') The fiber and low
voltage are also good ideas.

Jeff

On 8/13/05, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Perry, thanks for your input. Do you know if there is any advantage of
> Cat-5
> over Cat-6?
>
>
> On 8/13/05 5:09 PM, "Perry Yastrov" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >
> > I haven't researched this in a few years.
> >
> > Yes its easier to pre-wire than retrofit. Much.
> >
> > If I was in the position to prewire a house, and had
> > the funds I would wire every room. Perhaps even with
> > multiple outlets depending on room use, etc.
> >
> > Wiring I would consider looking into:
> >
> > Coax (RG6)
> > Cat-5
> > Fiber
> > Phone
> > Low voltage
> > Alarm system
> > Wiring for IR remotes
> > Temperature control
> >
> > I realize this list is a mix of wiring types and
> > usage. Some of the home automation stuff is becoming
> > networkable, and therefore by researching the type of
> > automation you may want in the home, may help
> > determine what interconnect you want.
> >
> > Then there is the terminal box where everything
> > connects together.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> I would like to get the opinions of the HDTV tips
> >> list if they were
> >> constructing a new home what kind of wiring would
> >> they have installed
> >> throughout the home. In addition what they may add
> >> to future proof the home.
> >> It is a hell of a lot easier to do this now then to
> >> perform this work later.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> James H.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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