New SXRD's Announced

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http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... 22354.html

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From: "Hugh Campbell" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:02 PM
Subject: New SXRD's Announced


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> Here is a link to the new Sony models coming in "early fall". Two new
> XBR SXRD models accepting 1080P, in 70" and 60" priced at $7,800 and
> $5,300, etc.
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> http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... 22416.html
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I wonder how these will compare in price and performance to front
projectors? I figure I'll be looking at a new display in about 12-18
months and had been thinking i'd go with a front projector when it's time

Aaron W. Thompson wrote:
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Campbell"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:02 PM
> Subject: New SXRD's Announced
>
>
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>> Here is a link to the new Sony models coming in "early fall". Two
>> new XBR SXRD models accepting 1080P, in 70" and 60" priced at $7,800
>> and $5,300, etc.
>>
>> http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... 22416.html
>>
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At 11:31 PM 6/1/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>I wonder how these will compare in price and performance to front
>projectors? I figure I'll be looking at a new display in about 12-18
>months and had been thinking i'd go with a front projector when it's time

Since the Sony "Ruby" 1080p SXRD projector is currently under $10,000
I would expect that in 1-2 years time the gap between FPs and RPs
with full 1080p capability will narrow even more. It will probably
all come down to what your personal preferences and room logistics
are. The FP creates a larger image with fewer geometry issues than a
RP (which was already pointed out my another member here) but it also
requires a different type of installation requirement. I purchased
the 1080p capable HP MD5880n because I needed a new "regular" display
in my HT and I wanted 1080p inputs. The FP versions were still a
little pricey and my 720p Runco still serves me well for my BIG
screen experience (at least until Blu-ray, et. al). But I have my
eye on that Sony Ruby (or similar) and with the way that prices tend
to drop, the Runco's days are probably numbered. My first SONY LCD
FP (the VW10HT) cost me $5800 back in 1999-2000. I'd wager that I'll
be able to get a 1080p FP for less than that in a few years at most.

Remember, this never ends. <g>


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#5
Front projection is the way to go if you have a room with full light control. Resolution is not everything and right now there are great bargains out there on 720P equipment. Based on that the cost of a projector and screen is equal to or less than what you would pay for a one piece display like the SXRD series.

One phenominal projector for the price...

Samsung DLP FP from JKP SP-H710AE bargain at ebay
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5941
#6
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One of the more annoying characteristics of the current crop of shallow
cabinet RPTVs is the geometric distortion that is always present. This is due
to the inordinately short optical path from the optics, to the mirror, then on
to the screen. Unavoidable pincushion distortion results in the image.
Letterbox edges are curved at the top and bottom of the screen and pillarbox
edges are even more curved at the sides of 1.33:1 programs. This distortion
is not quite as noticeable in motion programming but it is revealed from time
to time. CRTs can correct for this via electromagnetic or electrostatic
deflection of the electron beam. Fixed pixel projectors lack this facility.

Large sized flat panel displays do not have this problem but are much more
expensive per square inch of screen surface. Front projection has marvelous
benefits but must be viewed in the dark for a decent image. The best of both
worlds is a two-piece rear projection system, but this requires more space
behind the screen wall and more expense than a front projection rig.

Image fidelity takes a back seat to other considerations all the time. Some
of these are: economics, convenience, conflicting activities in the viewing
environment, room decor, light from windows, veiwing distance, etc., etc. The
art and science of designing or selecting the best display for a particular
installation lies in achieving the best balance of all factors. Too often the
viewer has not taken an important factor into account before making a
purchase. Unfortunately, the error becomes evident after the purchase when
the viewer has the opportunity to watch the display under all conditions in
the system. A skilled and experienced imaging science practitioner can
anticipate these pitfalls and is the best resource for system design help and
selecting the best display for a given lifestyle.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I wonder how these will compare in price and performance to front
> projectors? I figure I'll be looking at a new display in about 12-18
> months and had been thinking i'd go with a front projector when it's time
>
> Aaron W. Thompson wrote:
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http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... ay/sxrd_gr
and_wega/release/22354.html

> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Campbell"
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:02 PM
> > Subject: New SXRD's Announced
> >
> >
> >> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
> >>
> >> Here is a link to the new Sony models coming in "early fall". Two
> >> new XBR SXRD models accepting 1080P, in 70" and 60" priced at $7,800
> >> and $5,300, etc.
> >>
> >>
http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... _displays/
lcd/release/22416.html

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#7
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Front projection is the way to go if you have a room with full light
control. Resolution is not everything and right now there are great
bargains out there on 720P equipment. Based on that the cost of a
projector and screen is equal to or less than what you would pay for a
one piece display like the SXRD series.

One phenominal projector for the price...

Samsung DLP FP from JKP SP-H710AE bargain at ebay
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5941
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Jason Burroughs wrote:
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>
> I wonder how these will compare in price and performance to front
> projectors? I figure I'll be looking at a new display in about 12-18
> months and had been thinking i'd go with a front projector when it's time
>
> Aaron W. Thompson wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... 22354.html
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Campbell"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:02 PM
>> Subject: New SXRD's Announced
>>
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Here is a link to the new Sony models coming in "early fall". Two
>>> new XBR SXRD models accepting 1080P, in 70" and 60" priced at $7,800
>>> and $5,300, etc.
>>>
>>> http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... 22416.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Hugh
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At 05:44 PM 6/2/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>Front projection is the way to go if you have a room with full light
>control. Resolution is not everything and right now there are great
>bargains out there on 720P equipment. Based on that the cost of a
>projector and screen is equal to or less than what you would pay for a
>one piece display like the SXRD series.

An excellent point, Richard, and one reason that I'm not rushing out
to replace my 720p Runco CL-710 FP with an 1080p model right now even
though I also have a 1080p 58" HP in the room. 720p from a good
projector properly calibrated does a fine job for now especially with
the HD-DVD material out there still playing only 1080i. When 1080p
delivered sources become the norm rather than the exception then I'll
re-evaluate my position on this.


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#9
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RAF,

The NEED for 1080P is one of two:

1. It is the newest technology, the numbers are bigger so it must be
better regardless of application. I'll throw in a the new toy aspect as
well.

2. Your viewing distance is less than 4 screen heights and you can see
the pixels of the imaging device. Those at 3 screen heights are likely
pushing this aspect of performance.

Not many use 3 screen heights. I do plus a 2.35 constant height screen
using zoom which makes the pixels even larger. 1080P is on my list! at
3.5 screen heights and no 2.35 constant height setup I could easily wait
and/or not even care.

The wisdom of Alan Brown's response to work with a professional should
be given careful consideration. We can save folks money or apply that HT
funding to other areas that would create a much greater cost/benefit
ratio for improving performance.

Thanks

Richard Fisher
HD Library is Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
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Dr Robert A Fowkes wrote:
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> At 05:44 PM 6/2/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>
>> Front projection is the way to go if you have a room with full light
>> control. Resolution is not everything and right now there are great
>> bargains out there on 720P equipment. Based on that the cost of a
>> projector and screen is equal to or less than what you would pay for a
>> one piece display like the SXRD series.
>
>
> An excellent point, Richard, and one reason that I'm not rushing out to
> replace my 720p Runco CL-710 FP with an 1080p model right now even
> though I also have a 1080p 58" HP in the room. 720p from a good
> projector properly calibrated does a fine job for now especially with
> the HD-DVD material out there still playing only 1080i. When 1080p
> delivered sources become the norm rather than the exception then I'll
> re-evaluate my position on this.
>
>
> -- RAF
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#10
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> One of the more annoying characteristics of the current crop of shallow
> cabinet RPTVs is the geometric distortion that is always present.
This is due
> to the inordinately short optical path from the optics, to the
mirror, then on
> to the screen. Unavoidable pincushion distortion results in the image.

This is part and parcel of ANY short throw projection system or wide
field telescope. Nature of the beast.

Richard Fisher
HD Library is Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php

[email protected] wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> One of the more annoying characteristics of the current crop of shallow
> cabinet RPTVs is the geometric distortion that is always present. This is due
> to the inordinately short optical path from the optics, to the mirror, then on
> to the screen. Unavoidable pincushion distortion results in the image.
> Letterbox edges are curved at the top and bottom of the screen and pillarbox
> edges are even more curved at the sides of 1.33:1 programs. This distortion
> is not quite as noticeable in motion programming but it is revealed from time
> to time. CRTs can correct for this via electromagnetic or electrostatic
> deflection of the electron beam. Fixed pixel projectors lack this facility.
>
> Large sized flat panel displays do not have this problem but are much more
> expensive per square inch of screen surface. Front projection has marvelous
> benefits but must be viewed in the dark for a decent image. The best of both
> worlds is a two-piece rear projection system, but this requires more space
> behind the screen wall and more expense than a front projection rig.
>
> Image fidelity takes a back seat to other considerations all the time. Some
> of these are: economics, convenience, conflicting activities in the viewing
> environment, room decor, light from windows, veiwing distance, etc., etc. The
> art and science of designing or selecting the best display for a particular
> installation lies in achieving the best balance of all factors. Too often the
> viewer has not taken an important factor into account before making a
> purchase. Unfortunately, the error becomes evident after the purchase when
> the viewer has the opportunity to watch the display under all conditions in
> the system. A skilled and experienced imaging science practitioner can
> anticipate these pitfalls and is the best resource for system design help and
> selecting the best display for a given lifestyle.
>
> Best regards and beautiful pictures,
> Alan Brown, President
> CinemaQuest, Inc.
> www.cinemaquestinc.com
>
> "Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>I wonder how these will compare in price and performance to front
>>projectors? I figure I'll be looking at a new display in about 12-18
>>months and had been thinking i'd go with a front projector when it's time
>>
>>Aaron W. Thompson wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>
>
> http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... ay/sxrd_gr
> and_wega/release/22354.html
>
>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Campbell"
>>><[email protected]>
>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:02 PM
>>>Subject: New SXRD's Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Here is a link to the new Sony models coming in "early fall". Two
>>>>new XBR SXRD models accepting 1080P, in 70" and 60" priced at $7,800
>>>>and $5,300, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>
> http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/ ... _displays/
> lcd/release/22416.html
>
>
>>>>
>>>>Hugh
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