Questions regarding HD DVD and Blu-Ray

Started by tomkemp Aug 29, 2007 3 posts
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I am considering on going the cheap route with both HD-DVD and
Blu-Ray at least initially. I will "probably" buy the external HD
DVD player from Microsoft for $179. I will probably also buy the PS3
to get the Blu-Ray functionality. I believe both offer a choice,
albeit a limited one, of five free movies as part of the
purchase. Of course, the choices are probably mediocre at
best. Also, given the reported poor transfers to HD DVD or Blu-Ray
do I really care?

Three of the four HD TVs that I own have HDMI input but they only
support 720p output. Two are 32" Sony LCDs. One of those is an
XBR2. The third one is a smaller 23" Samsung LCD, white in color,
which is used in the kitchen. The fourth TV is a 6+ year old
KP65XBR10W rear projection Sony that has only one high def input and
that is component video not HDMI. I use my Denon receiver to switch
between my Verizon HD DVR and the XBOX 360 as input to the TV.

So, here are the questions:

1. is the picture quality of the XBOX 360 HD DVD external and the PS3
Blu-Ray good enough given my range of displays to even consider
buying either or both of them?
2. is my range of displays going to be the limiting factor in
displaying the HD DVD and Blu-Ray images because none can do 1080p
and only the 65" Sony can output 1080i?
3. is there any noticeable difference in picture quality given the
same movie with more expensive HD DVD or Blu-Ray players?
4. Supposedly the PS3 implemented HDMI 1.3. Can anyone actually
confirm that? Is it really deep color and lossless audio capable or
is that basically smoke and mirrors at this point?
5. What version of HDMI is supported in the MS external HD DVD player?

Or, should I have my head examined for even thinking about going the
cheap route because the more expensive players offer dramatically
better video quality? IF they do, is that really an issue with my
existing HD TVs?

Thanks,
Tom

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#2
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Hi Thomas,

That is a good strategy. The film transfers are getting remarkably
better. And from what I've heard of the free choices, they are not that bad.

Some quick answers to your questions:

1. I would say yes, others may say no. And if you plan on upgrading to a
1080p TV at some point, you'll already have capable output devices.

2. Related to #1, your displays will certainly limit the capabilities of
these players, but it may be enough of an improvement for you over
standard DVD to still be worth the investment, especially if you (or
your loved ones) enjoy gaming. And don't forget, there's a huge audio
benefit to these formats in addition to video.

3. I have not directly compared them, but I would be surprised if anyone
could tell a difference. I think most of the units out there right now
use the same core hardware, the only exception being the audio/video
scaling chipsets ... which would apply primarily to watching standard
DVD content upconverted.

4. Yes, the PS3 is HDMI 1.3. I do not have a 1.3-capable receiver yet
though, so I cannot confirm.

5. The signal for the HD DVD add-on is passed through the Xbox console.
Unless you have (or buy) the Xbox Elite, you will not have an HDMI
connection. I have seen rumors that the "regular" Xbox 360 Premium
console is being shipped with HDMI this holiday, but this is
unconfirmed. For those that have the Elite, the HDMI is 1.2

Shane Sturgeon
Publisher, HDTV Magazine
Cell: (937) 532-8135 <callto:+19375328135>
GTalk: mssturgeon <gtalk:[email protected]>
Skype: HDTVMagazine <skype:hdtvmagazine>
www.hdtvmagazine.com <http://www.hdtvmagazine.com>



Thomas B Kemp wrote:
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>
> I am considering on going the cheap route with both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray
> at least initially. I will "probably" buy the external HD DVD player
> from Microsoft for $179. I will probably also buy the PS3 to get the
> Blu-Ray functionality. I believe both offer a choice, albeit a
> limited one, of five free movies as part of the purchase. Of course,
> the choices are probably mediocre at best. Also, given the reported
> poor transfers to HD DVD or Blu-Ray do I really care?
>
> Three of the four HD TVs that I own have HDMI input but they only
> support 720p output. Two are 32" Sony LCDs. One of those is an
> XBR2. The third one is a smaller 23" Samsung LCD, white in color,
> which is used in the kitchen. The fourth TV is a 6+ year old
> KP65XBR10W rear projection Sony that has only one high def input and
> that is component video not HDMI. I use my Denon receiver to switch
> between my Verizon HD DVR and the XBOX 360 as input to the TV.
>
> So, here are the questions:
>
> 1. is the picture quality of the XBOX 360 HD DVD external and the PS3
> Blu-Ray good enough given my range of displays to even consider buying
> either or both of them?
> 2. is my range of displays going to be the limiting factor in
> displaying the HD DVD and Blu-Ray images because none can do 1080p and
> only the 65" Sony can output 1080i?
> 3. is there any noticeable difference in picture quality given the
> same movie with more expensive HD DVD or Blu-Ray players?
> 4. Supposedly the PS3 implemented HDMI 1.3. Can anyone actually
> confirm that? Is it really deep color and lossless audio capable or
> is that basically smoke and mirrors at this point?
> 5. What version of HDMI is supported in the MS external HD DVD player?
>
> Or, should I have my head examined for even thinking about going the
> cheap route because the more expensive players offer dramatically
> better video quality? IF they do, is that really an issue with my
> existing HD TVs?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
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> moments that take our breath away.
>
>
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#3
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Thomas,

I wasn't quite sure what you were driving at with all the displays -
sounded like you were inferring A/V distribution... going on Shane's
response...

2. if you have any complaints over pixelated noisy HD from cable, sat or
OTA then you will appreciate the perfect clarity of HD disc

4. Whether the PS3 supports deep color is kinda moot... If Sony claimed
it how could you prove or test it? As for loss-less audio refer to
Rodolfo's recent article for a comment on the PS3 as well as the blu-ray
camp requirements for mastering a disc with loss less audio... not many
movies meet the requirement.

One thing is for sure... The introduction of HDMI and HD disc makes the
DTV transition look like a cake walk!

Richard Fisher
ISF and HAA certified
HD Library is provided by Techservicesusa.com
Publisher http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/index.php

Shane Sturgeon wrote:
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>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> That is a good strategy. The film transfers are getting remarkably
> better. And from what I've heard of the free choices, they are not that
> bad.
>
> Some quick answers to your questions:
>
> 1. I would say yes, others may say no. And if you plan on upgrading to a
> 1080p TV at some point, you'll already have capable output devices.
>
> 2. Related to #1, your displays will certainly limit the capabilities of
> these players, but it may be enough of an improvement for you over
> standard DVD to still be worth the investment, especially if you (or
> your loved ones) enjoy gaming. And don't forget, there's a huge audio
> benefit to these formats in addition to video.
>
> 3. I have not directly compared them, but I would be surprised if anyone
> could tell a difference. I think most of the units out there right now
> use the same core hardware, the only exception being the audio/video
> scaling chipsets ... which would apply primarily to watching standard
> DVD content upconverted.
>
> 4. Yes, the PS3 is HDMI 1.3. I do not have a 1.3-capable receiver yet
> though, so I cannot confirm.
>
> 5. The signal for the HD DVD add-on is passed through the Xbox console.
> Unless you have (or buy) the Xbox Elite, you will not have an HDMI
> connection. I have seen rumors that the "regular" Xbox 360 Premium
> console is being shipped with HDMI this holiday, but this is
> unconfirmed. For those that have the Elite, the HDMI is 1.2
>
> Shane Sturgeon
> Publisher, HDTV Magazine
> Cell: (937) 532-8135 <callto:+19375328135>
> GTalk: mssturgeon <gtalk:[email protected]>
> Skype: HDTVMagazine <skype:hdtvmagazine>
> www.hdtvmagazine.com <http://www.hdtvmagazine.com>
>
>
>
> Thomas B Kemp wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I am considering on going the cheap route with both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray
>> at least initially. I will "probably" buy the external HD DVD player
>> from Microsoft for $179. I will probably also buy the PS3 to get the
>> Blu-Ray functionality. I believe both offer a choice, albeit a
>> limited one, of five free movies as part of the purchase. Of course,
>> the choices are probably mediocre at best. Also, given the reported
>> poor transfers to HD DVD or Blu-Ray do I really care?
>>
>> Three of the four HD TVs that I own have HDMI input but they only
>> support 720p output. Two are 32" Sony LCDs. One of those is an
>> XBR2. The third one is a smaller 23" Samsung LCD, white in color,
>> which is used in the kitchen. The fourth TV is a 6+ year old
>> KP65XBR10W rear projection Sony that has only one high def input and
>> that is component video not HDMI. I use my Denon receiver to switch
>> between my Verizon HD DVR and the XBOX 360 as input to the TV.
>>
>> So, here are the questions:
>>
>> 1. is the picture quality of the XBOX 360 HD DVD external and the PS3
>> Blu-Ray good enough given my range of displays to even consider buying
>> either or both of them?
>> 2. is my range of displays going to be the limiting factor in
>> displaying the HD DVD and Blu-Ray images because none can do 1080p and
>> only the 65" Sony can output 1080i?
>> 3. is there any noticeable difference in picture quality given the
>> same movie with more expensive HD DVD or Blu-Ray players?
>> 4. Supposedly the PS3 implemented HDMI 1.3. Can anyone actually
>> confirm that? Is it really deep color and lossless audio capable or
>> is that basically smoke and mirrors at this point?
>> 5. What version of HDMI is supported in the MS external HD DVD player?
>>
>> Or, should I have my head examined for even thinking about going the
>> cheap route because the more expensive players offer dramatically
>> better video quality? IF they do, is that really an issue with my
>> existing HD TVs?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>> Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the
>> moments that take our breath away.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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