Saturday Night Live HD premier a bust

Started by neurot Oct 4, 2005 4 posts
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#1
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Weird - I have the whole thing on my hard drive and although I haven't
watched the whole thing, I did skim through and saw an incredible picture -
even the cartoons are in widescreen. The logo is there, nothing is cut
off...no complaints!

Sounds like an affiliate issue.

I downloaded my copy from the newsgroups, so I don't know where it came
from...


Jason

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Something was very strange and indeed you are on the mark. The dead give
away was the fact that the NBC logo was cutoff. This does not appear to
have been HD; only a zoom in on the letterboxed 4:3 presentation used
for the analog.

On top of that the directing left us many times with material that was
clearly cutoff such as the top of people heads or the beginning skit
White House logo. There was also obvious native 4:3 content presented
full screen cutting off the top and bottom of the image rather than
being letterboxed in the 16:9 source.

I sure hope they do better next week...

Richard Fisher
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#2
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This is peculiar. I didn't notice any of the things that you mentioned in
your post, i.e. the cut off logo or people's heads being cut off in the
opening skit. Also, the feed looked crystal clear. Maybe I had too many
Corona's that night. In any event I recorded it on my DVR. I will check
the recording when I get home and see if I was over tired or just on auto
pilot and will report in on this tomorrow.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

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Something was very strange and indeed you are on the mark. The dead give
away was the fact that the NBC logo was cutoff. This does not appear to
have been HD; only a zoom in on the letterboxed 4:3 presentation used
for the analog.

On top of that the directing left us many times with material that was
clearly cutoff such as the top of people heads or the beginning skit
White House logo. There was also obvious native 4:3 content presented
full screen cutting off the top and bottom of the image rather than
being letterboxed in the 16:9 source.

I sure hope they do better next week...

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
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#3
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My experience was the same, great looking HD. Even
their predone material was in HD.

--- Anthony Rizzuto <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> This is peculiar. I didn't notice any of the things
> that you mentioned in
> your post, i.e. the cut off logo or people's heads
> being cut off in the
> opening skit. Also, the feed looked crystal clear.
> Maybe I had too many
> Corona's that night. In any event I recorded it on
> my DVR. I will check
> the recording when I get home and see if I was over
> tired or just on auto
> pilot and will report in on this tomorrow.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:11 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Saturday Night Live HD premier a bust
>
>
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> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewt ... 19535#7286
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> Something was very strange and indeed you are on the
> mark. The dead give
> away was the fact that the NBC logo was cutoff. This
> does not appear to
> have been HD; only a zoom in on the letterboxed 4:3
> presentation used
> for the analog.
>
> On top of that the directing left us many times with
> material that was
> clearly cutoff such as the top of people heads or
> the beginning skit
> White House logo. There was also obvious native 4:3
> content presented
> full screen cutting off the top and bottom of the
> image rather than
> being letterboxed in the 16:9 source.
>
> I sure hope they do better next week...
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
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#4
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Hmm...

The bottom of the logo was barely cutoff on the bottom of my 4.3%
overscan display. If you watch NBC HD the HD NBC logo was clearly in the
wrong place. The next event to make that abundantly obvious was my local
switched midstream to SD and the logo NEVER CHANGED position in relation
to the image like it always does and should! This also made it clear
that I was watching the 16:9 version since the SD was a letterboxed 4:3
and I could check this at will via my DVR. I doubt the local has the
capability to do that and also all they are doing is swtching to the
national feed.

When I say cutoff peoples heads I mean just the very top. This is
something a director or camera man would clearly see as an error; not
the general public.

I seriously doubt the cartoon was created as 16:9 but I did not check
with the creators/authors. It is very easy to crop the top and bottom of
4:3 and be left with something the general public would find acceptable
like Hogans Heroes. Just give us the 4:3, please. Since they are
leterboxing the SD analog feed I can't verify such an error that way either.

Maybe it is just me but NBC SD is quality looking stuff with HD showing
some improvement and is of course 16:9. I have seen this comparison
numerous times due to SD/HD switching errors and my DVR with Leno.

I concur, it looked really good but in my NBC experience that does not
make it HD anymore than upconverted PBS versus HD PBS content. To me it
did not seem any better than last year in terms of quality but that is
not saying much for SD that has always looked damn good via DTV anyway.
What was obvious was the poor camera framing making it feel like a zoom
mode and the logo not being in the right position for HD content.

Thanks

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Perry Yastrov wrote:
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> My experience was the same, great looking HD. Even
> their predone material was in HD.
>
> --- Anthony Rizzuto <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
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>>
>>This is peculiar. I didn't notice any of the things
>>that you mentioned in
>>your post, i.e. the cut off logo or people's heads
>>being cut off in the
>>opening skit. Also, the feed looked crystal clear.
>>Maybe I had too many
>>Corona's that night. In any event I recorded it on
>>my DVR. I will check
>>the recording when I get home and see if I was over
>>tired or just on auto
>>pilot and will report in on this tomorrow.
>>
>>Anthony R.
>>Orlando, FL
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine
>>On Behalf Of
>>Richard
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:11 PM
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: Saturday Night Live HD premier a bust
>>
>>
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>>
>>http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19535#7286
>>
>>Something was very strange and indeed you are on the
>>mark. The dead give
>>away was the fact that the NBC logo was cutoff. This
>>does not appear to
>>have been HD; only a zoom in on the letterboxed 4:3
>>presentation used
>>for the analog.
>>
>>On top of that the directing left us many times with
>>material that was
>>clearly cutoff such as the top of people heads or
>>the beginning skit
>>White House logo. There was also obvious native 4:3
>>content presented
>>full screen cutting off the top and bottom of the
>>image rather than
>>being letterboxed in the 16:9 source.
>>
>>I sure hope they do better next week...
>>
>>Richard Fisher
>>www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
>>A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>>
>>
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