Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)

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Richard Fisher
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> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
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> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices, they
> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>
> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers -- one
> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which is
> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches limit
> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>
> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
> for
> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
> not
> esirable (obviously).
>
> Dave Siddall
>
>
>
>>Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>
>>Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>
>>How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>limited to the range of your transmitter.
>
>
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>
>>I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>
>>I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>(i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>
>>Curious ...
>>
>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>Skype: HDTVMagazine
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Good advice, but it does not (unless I missed it) cover how to adequately
protect your equipment without potentially interfering with HomePlug
communications.

In my estimation, you would have to have something in between the power co.
drop and your panel. You'd also have to have something between and any
antenna (DTV, satellite, etc.) and your equipment, as your link states.

-- M. Shane Sturgeon
Skype: HDTVMagazine



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AC Surge/Lightning Suppressors
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3497

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

[email protected] wrote:
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>
>
> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
>
>
> |---------+--------------------------------->
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>
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>
>
> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices,
they
> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>
> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers --
one
> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which
is
> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches
limit
> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>
> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
> for
> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
> not
> esirable (obviously).
>
> Dave Siddall
>
>
>
>>Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>
>>Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>
>>How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>limited to the range of your transmitter.
>
>
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>
>>I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>
>>I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>(i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>
>>Curious ...
>>
>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
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Progress Energy has recently introduced a surge protector for the home that
is installed at the main box outside. It ostensibly is supposed to prevent
power surges and spiking that may damage appliances and electronics,
particularly those resulting from lightning strikes. I have one. I have no
idea how it affects things overall such as line interference.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

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Good advice, but it does not (unless I missed it) cover how to adequately
protect your equipment without potentially interfering with HomePlug
communications.

In my estimation, you would have to have something in between the power co.
drop and your panel. You'd also have to have something between and any
antenna (DTV, satellite, etc.) and your equipment, as your link states.

-- M. Shane Sturgeon
Skype: HDTVMagazine



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AC Surge/Lightning Suppressors
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3497

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

[email protected] wrote:
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>
> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
>
>
> |---------+--------------------------------->
> | | "David Siddall" |
> | | <[email protected]>|
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>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices,
they
> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>
> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers --
one
> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which
is
> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches
limit
> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>
> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
> for
> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
> not
> esirable (obviously).
>
> Dave Siddall
>
>
>
>>Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>
>>Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>
>>How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>limited to the range of your transmitter.
>
>
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>
>>I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>
>>I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>(i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>
>>Curious ...
>>
>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
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Cost?


On 8/19/05 10:17 AM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Progress Energy has recently introduced a surge protector for the home that
> is installed at the main box outside. It ostensibly is supposed to prevent
> power surges and spiking that may damage appliances and electronics,
> particularly those resulting from lightning strikes. I have one. I have no
> idea how it affects things overall such as line interference.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
>
>
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>
>
> Good advice, but it does not (unless I missed it) cover how to adequately
> protect your equipment without potentially interfering with HomePlug
> communications.
>
> In my estimation, you would have to have something in between the power co.
> drop and your panel. You'd also have to have something between and any
> antenna (DTV, satellite, etc.) and your equipment, as your link states.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
>
>
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>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> [email protected] wrote:
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>>
>>
>> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
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>>
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices,
> they
>> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
>> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
>> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>>
>> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers --
> one
>> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which
> is
>> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches
> limit
>> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
>> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>>
>> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
>> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
>> for
>> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
>> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
>> not
>> esirable (obviously).
>>
>> Dave Siddall
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>>
>>> Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>> radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>>
>>> How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>> connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>> connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>> potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>> limited to the range of your transmitter.
>>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>> From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>>
>>> I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>>
>>> I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>> that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>> (i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>> limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>>
>>> Curious ...
>>>
>>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
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James,

50.00 installed plus 5.95 per month and in this case 6.5% sales tax.
Downsides, it really is designed to protect motor driven devices such as air
conditioners, refrigeration, washers and dryers. While it will help with
electronics, Progress Energy still recommends additional interior surge
protection devices for sensitive electronics. Biggest downside, if it's
tripped for any reason, you lose power across the board until the power
company comes out to reset it. Having said that, we've had some major
lightning storms in the last month and some strikes close to my home and the
unit has not been tripped. To that extent false alarms so far do not seem
to be an issue. For those who don't know, Central Florida, and Orlando in
particular, is literally the lightning capital. More lightning strikes
occur here than in any other part of the world!

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:44 AM
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Cost?


On 8/19/05 10:17 AM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Progress Energy has recently introduced a surge protector for the home
that
> is installed at the main box outside. It ostensibly is supposed to
prevent
> power surges and spiking that may damage appliances and electronics,
> particularly those resulting from lightning strikes. I have one. I have
no
> idea how it affects things overall such as line interference.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Good advice, but it does not (unless I missed it) cover how to adequately
> protect your equipment without potentially interfering with HomePlug
> communications.
>
> In my estimation, you would have to have something in between the power
co.
> drop and your panel. You'd also have to have something between and any
> antenna (DTV, satellite, etc.) and your equipment, as your link states.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
>
>
> |---------+--------------------------------->
> | | Richard |
> | | <[email protected]> |
> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
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> | | Please respond to |
> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
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> IF this applies...
>
> AC Surge/Lightning Suppressors
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3497
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | "David Siddall" |
>> | | <[email protected]>|
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
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>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices,
> they
>> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
>> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
>> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>>
>> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers --
> one
>> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which
> is
>> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches
> limit
>> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
>> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>>
>> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
>> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
>> for
>> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
>> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
>> not
>> esirable (obviously).
>>
>> Dave Siddall
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>>
>>> Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>> radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>>
>>> How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>> connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>> connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>> potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>> limited to the range of your transmitter.
>>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>> From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>>
>>> I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>>
>>> I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>> that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>> (i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>> limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>>
>>> Curious ...
>>>
>>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
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There are, and have been, protectors that go in the meter bases. There are
also ones that go into the panel. Then there are the ones at the equipment.
You really need more than the one at meter or panel. A very good article in
a pro trade journal studied and discussed the various ways of protection and
showed where all 3 provided much more protection. This was in the scope of
multi story buildings with main entrance, floor level, and equipment level
protection, but the same thing applies in home. The protectors for service
entrance are going to let in a larger rush of current than one for your
computer as it must deal with motors with large in rush and back flow,
including higher voltage spikes.

DO REMEMBER TAT YOU MUST PROTECT EVERY ENTRANCE TO THE HOUSE: 120VAC,
TELEPHONE, CABLE, INTERNET, ETC. Would you lock all doors to the house
except one every night? Same with surges.



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From: James Healy
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:44 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)

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Cost?


On 8/19/05 10:17 AM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Progress Energy has recently introduced a surge protector for the home
that
> is installed at the main box outside. It ostensibly is supposed to
prevent
> power surges and spiking that may damage appliances and electronics,
> particularly those resulting from lightning strikes. I have one. I have
no
> idea how it affects things overall such as line interference.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Good advice, but it does not (unless I missed it) cover how to adequately
> protect your equipment without potentially interfering with HomePlug
> communications.
>
> In my estimation, you would have to have something in between the power
co.
> drop and your panel. You'd also have to have something between and any
> antenna (DTV, satellite, etc.) and your equipment, as your link states.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
>
>
> |---------+--------------------------------->
> | | Richard |
> | | <[email protected]> |
> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
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> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
> | | vehdtv.com> |
> | | |
> | | |
> | | 08/19/2005 09:24 AM |
> | | Please respond to |
> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |
> |
> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> |
> | cc:
> |
> | Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
> |
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> IF this applies...
>
> AC Surge/Lightning Suppressors
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3497
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | "David Siddall" |
>> | | <[email protected]>|
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
>> | | Magazine" |
>> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>> | | vehdtv.com> |
>> | | |
>> | | |
>> | | 08/19/2005 12:27 AM |
>> | | Please respond to |
>> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>>
>>
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> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>> |
> |
>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> |
>> | cc:
> |
>> | Subject: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
> |
>>
>>
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> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices,
> they
>> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
>> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
>> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>>
>> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers --
> one
>> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which
> is
>> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches
> limit
>> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
>> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>>
>> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
>> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
>> for
>> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
>> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
>> not
>> esirable (obviously).
>>
>> Dave Siddall
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>>
>>> Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>> radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>>
>>> How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>> connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>> connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>> potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>> limited to the range of your transmitter.
>>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>> From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>>
>>> I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>>
>>> I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>> that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>> (i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>> limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>>
>>> Curious ...
>>>
>>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
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There are others I have installed that still conduct but do not protect when
blown. They have exterior lights to show working or blown.



-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:07 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

James,

50.00 installed plus 5.95 per month and in this case 6.5% sales tax.
Downsides, it really is designed to protect motor driven devices such as air
conditioners, refrigeration, washers and dryers. While it will help with
electronics, Progress Energy still recommends additional interior surge
protection devices for sensitive electronics. Biggest downside, if it's
tripped for any reason, you lose power across the board until the power
company comes out to reset it. Having said that, we've had some major
lightning storms in the last month and some strikes close to my home and the
unit has not been tripped. To that extent false alarms so far do not seem
to be an issue. For those who don't know, Central Florida, and Orlando in
particular, is literally the lightning capital. More lightning strikes
occur here than in any other part of the world!

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
James Healy
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:44 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Cost?


On 8/19/05 10:17 AM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Progress Energy has recently introduced a surge protector for the home
that
> is installed at the main box outside. It ostensibly is supposed to
prevent
> power surges and spiking that may damage appliances and electronics,
> particularly those resulting from lightning strikes. I have one. I have
no
> idea how it affects things overall such as line interference.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Good advice, but it does not (unless I missed it) cover how to adequately
> protect your equipment without potentially interfering with HomePlug
> communications.
>
> In my estimation, you would have to have something in between the power
co.
> drop and your panel. You'd also have to have something between and any
> antenna (DTV, satellite, etc.) and your equipment, as your link states.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
>
>
> |---------+--------------------------------->
> | | Richard |
> | | <[email protected]> |
> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
> | | Magazine" |
> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
> | | vehdtv.com> |
> | | |
> | | |
> | | 08/19/2005 09:24 AM |
> | | Please respond to |
> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |
> |
> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> |
> | cc:
> |
> | Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
> |
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> IF this applies...
>
> AC Surge/Lightning Suppressors
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3497
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | "David Siddall" |
>> | | <[email protected]>|
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
>> | | Magazine" |
>> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>> | | vehdtv.com> |
>> | | |
>> | | |
>> | | 08/19/2005 12:27 AM |
>> | | Please respond to |
>> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>> |
> |
>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> |
>> | cc:
> |
>> | Subject: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
> |
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices,
> they
>> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
>> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
>> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>>
>> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers --
> one
>> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which
> is
>> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches
> limit
>> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
>> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>>
>> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
>> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
>> for
>> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
>> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
>> not
>> esirable (obviously).
>>
>> Dave Siddall
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>>
>>> Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>> radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>>
>>> How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>> connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>> connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>> potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>> limited to the range of your transmitter.
>>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>> From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>>
>>> I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>>
>>> I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>> that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>> (i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>> limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>>
>>> Curious ...
>>>
>>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
>>
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Yes the one I have has an exterior light. I understand what you're saying
with regards to protecting everything and I do have surge protection on all
of the devices I have plugged into an ac or cable outlet. As always thank
you for the information. This list is one of the best resources available I
think, across the board.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
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Joseph Azar
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:21 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)


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There are others I have installed that still conduct but do not protect when
blown. They have exterior lights to show working or blown.



-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:07 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

James,

50.00 installed plus 5.95 per month and in this case 6.5% sales tax.
Downsides, it really is designed to protect motor driven devices such as air
conditioners, refrigeration, washers and dryers. While it will help with
electronics, Progress Energy still recommends additional interior surge
protection devices for sensitive electronics. Biggest downside, if it's
tripped for any reason, you lose power across the board until the power
company comes out to reset it. Having said that, we've had some major
lightning storms in the last month and some strikes close to my home and the
unit has not been tripped. To that extent false alarms so far do not seem
to be an issue. For those who don't know, Central Florida, and Orlando in
particular, is literally the lightning capital. More lightning strikes
occur here than in any other part of the world!

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
James Healy
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:44 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Cost?


On 8/19/05 10:17 AM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Progress Energy has recently introduced a surge protector for the home
that
> is installed at the main box outside. It ostensibly is supposed to
prevent
> power surges and spiking that may damage appliances and electronics,
> particularly those resulting from lightning strikes. I have one. I have
no
> idea how it affects things overall such as line interference.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Good advice, but it does not (unless I missed it) cover how to adequately
> protect your equipment without potentially interfering with HomePlug
> communications.
>
> In my estimation, you would have to have something in between the power
co.
> drop and your panel. You'd also have to have something between and any
> antenna (DTV, satellite, etc.) and your equipment, as your link states.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
>
>
> |---------+--------------------------------->
> | | Richard |
> | | <[email protected]> |
> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
> | | Magazine" |
> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
> | | vehdtv.com> |
> | | |
> | | |
> | | 08/19/2005 09:24 AM |
> | | Please respond to |
> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |
> |
> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> |
> | cc:
> |
> | Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
> |
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> IF this applies...
>
> AC Surge/Lightning Suppressors
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3497
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | "David Siddall" |
>> | | <[email protected]>|
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
>> | | Magazine" |
>> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>> | | vehdtv.com> |
>> | | |
>> | | |
>> | | 08/19/2005 12:27 AM |
>> | | Please respond to |
>> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>> |
> |
>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> |
>> | cc:
> |
>> | Subject: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
> |
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices,
> they
>> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
>> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
>> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>>
>> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers --
> one
>> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which
> is
>> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches
> limit
>> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
>> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>>
>> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
>> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
>> for
>> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
>> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
>> not
>> esirable (obviously).
>>
>> Dave Siddall
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>>
>>> Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>> radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>>
>>> How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>> connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>> connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>> potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>> limited to the range of your transmitter.
>>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>> From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>>
>>> I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>>
>>> I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>> that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>> (i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>> limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>>
>>> Curious ...
>>>
>>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
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----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

The power company can and do install "surge" protection on the line side of
electrical services for a nominal fee which is intended to prevent spikes
from entering your home through the service entrance conductors. You can buy
and install others yourself as well (or get an electrician). This is one
element of a properly protected home. There is nothing that can protect your
home from a direct lighting hit but you can help protect yourself from
spikes and surges from non direct hits but the power lines entering your
home is only one of many potential paths. Cable TV, Telephone, OTA
antennae, invisible dog fences, well head and power feeds, plumbing, gutter
and pretty much anything else that conducts (metallic and non metallic) can
attract lighting and once attracted it will follow that path, then jump to a
better path and so on to it eventually finds an earth ground.

The best defense is a layering concept, protect your service, then protect
your equipment at every available place that's affordable and practical.
The more the merrier. Most surge protectors have provisions for protecting
TV, Telephone and Satellite or they can be added separately but there's
still no guarantee. I personally like APC back ups with surge as well as the
Panamax or Monster stuff. The back ups also help protect against brown outs
which are potentially as damaging as surges and as a added benefit if you
loose power the back up kicks in and buys you a short amount of run time.



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-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:07 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)

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James,

50.00 installed plus 5.95 per month and in this case 6.5% sales tax.
Downsides, it really is designed to protect motor driven devices such as air
conditioners, refrigeration, washers and dryers. While it will help with
electronics, Progress Energy still recommends additional interior surge
protection devices for sensitive electronics. Biggest downside, if it's
tripped for any reason, you lose power across the board until the power
company comes out to reset it. Having said that, we've had some major
lightning storms in the last month and some strikes close to my home and the
unit has not been tripped. To that extent false alarms so far do not seem
to be an issue. For those who don't know, Central Florida, and Orlando in
particular, is literally the lightning capital. More lightning strikes
occur here than in any other part of the world!

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
James Healy
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:44 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)


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Cost?


On 8/19/05 10:17 AM, "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> Progress Energy has recently introduced a surge protector for the home
that
> is installed at the main box outside. It ostensibly is supposed to
prevent
> power surges and spiking that may damage appliances and electronics,
> particularly those resulting from lightning strikes. I have one. I have
no
> idea how it affects things overall such as line interference.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks (2)
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>
> Good advice, but it does not (unless I missed it) cover how to adequately
> protect your equipment without potentially interfering with HomePlug
> communications.
>
> In my estimation, you would have to have something in between the power
co.
> drop and your panel. You'd also have to have something between and any
> antenna (DTV, satellite, etc.) and your equipment, as your link states.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> Skype: HDTVMagazine
>
>
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> IF this applies...
>
> AC Surge/Lightning Suppressors
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3497
>
> Richard Fisher
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>> So then how would one protect their devices from lightning strikes?
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
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>>
>>
>> Perry, hams generally don't have any problem with HomePlug devices,
> they
>> would like access BPL to emulate HomePlug's notching of the amateur
>> frequencies. The HomePlug/ARRL test report is at:
>> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/f ... c_2000.pdf
>>
>> With regard to security, the signals do not get through transformers --
> one
>> would have to bypass the transformer to get the signal beyond it, which
> is
>> one of the hassles with access BPL; and line attenuation/mismatches
> limit
>> the practical transmission distances as well, it is low power (Part 15
>> limited for those familiar with FCC rules).
>>
>> Shane, with regard to surge protectors, depends upon the type. Many
>> (most?) home surge protectors suppress frequencies in the 1-30 MHz range
>> for
>> RFI protection, and since the HomePlug devices use this same frequency
>> range, the desired signal would be attenuated by such devices, which is
>> not
>> esirable (obviously).
>>
>> Dave Siddall
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Perry Yastrov <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>>
>>> Have they resolved the RF interference issues? Amatuer
>>> radio operators have been up in arms about this.
>>>
>>> How about security? Since your 110 power line is
>>> connected to everyone elses, then your network is also
>>> connected to everyone elses. To me, this is
>>> potentially worse than wireless. At lease wireless is
>>> limited to the range of your transmitter.
>>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Server/clients HD wired/wireless networks
>>> From: "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:53:38 -0400
>>>
>>> I admit to not having read up on this much ... but ...
>>>
>>> I use some wall-plug ethernet adapters in my home. One thing they say is
>>> that they will work ONLY if plugged directly into the electrical system
>>> (i.e. no surge suppressors). do the "HomePlug" devices have the same
>>> limitation? If so, one good lightning strike can cost a lot of money.
>>>
>>> Curious ...
>>>
>>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>> Skype: HDTVMagazine
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