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I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital distribution for
this episode.

I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or physically
carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two types of
projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other. Of
course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of anything
like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly interested.

Cheers,

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years subscription and
I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.

Now for something completely different.

I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last night.
The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated to the
point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
gave me a headache.

The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely calibrated
HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you could
see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking like
overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that were a
bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
improved presentation.

Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
kind of a proprietary HD format disc?

What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
it.

A safe and happy Memorial day to all!

Anthony Rizzuto
Orlando, FL


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Well, according to iMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/technical),
it's 1080p/24, with a runtime of 140 minutes.

So who's good at the math part?

I imagine they had a fairly beefy satellite download feed ...

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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When in doubt, call the Theater.

The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the projector is a DLP.
I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
Anthony R.

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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:00 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Slightly off topic


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I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital distribution for
this episode.

I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or physically
carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two types
of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other.
Of course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of
anything like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly interested.

Cheers,

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years subscription and
I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.

Now for something completely different.

I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last night.
The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated to the
point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
gave me a headache.

The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely calibrated
HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you could
see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking like
overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that were a
bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
improved presentation.

Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
kind of a proprietary HD format disc?

What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
it.

A safe and happy Memorial day to all!

Anthony Rizzuto
Orlando, FL


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It plays the movie from a hard drive at a resolution of 1920x1080
progressive scan @ 24 frames per second (1080p24).

http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_ ... rID=137598

more info there as to how it's done, but since it's a news site, it may
not go as deep as some may want.

See
http://www.christiedigital.com/products ... ations.asp
for even more detail.

Jason Burroughs


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When in doubt, call the Theater.

The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the projector is a DLP.
I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
Anthony R.

-----Original Message-----
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Of M. Shane Sturgeon
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:00 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Slightly off topic


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I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital distribution for
this episode.

I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or physically
carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two types
of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other.
Of course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of
anything like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly interested.

Cheers,

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years subscription and
I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.

Now for something completely different.

I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last night.
The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated to the
point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
gave me a headache.

The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely calibrated
HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you could
see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking like
overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that were a
bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
improved presentation.

Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
kind of a proprietary HD format disc?

What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
it.

A safe and happy Memorial day to all!

Anthony Rizzuto
Orlando, FL


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When in doubt, call the Theater.

The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the projector is a DLP.
I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
Anthony R.

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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Slightly off topic


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I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital distribution for
this episode.

I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or physically
carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two types
of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other.
Of course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of
anything like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly interested.

Cheers,

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years subscription and
I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.

Now for something completely different.

I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last night.
The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated to the
point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
gave me a headache.

The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely calibrated
HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you could
see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking like
overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that were a
bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
improved presentation.

Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
kind of a proprietary HD format disc?

What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
it.

A safe and happy Memorial day to all!

Anthony Rizzuto
Orlando, FL


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Well I thought I had something at HD Library about this and it is likely
there but can't find the one facet for your query.

None the less some threads of interest...

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5061

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3674

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3376

Actually, just found it...
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3542

another section of interest...
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=82

and a great site...
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3326

Thanks

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
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>
>
> First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
> deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
> Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years subscription and
> I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.
>
> Now for something completely different.
>
> I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last night.
> The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
> this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
> celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
> intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated to the
> point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
> opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
> gave me a headache.
>
> The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely calibrated
> HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you could
> see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking like
> overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that were a
> bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
> improved presentation.
>
> Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
> kind of a proprietary HD format disc?
>
> What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
> hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
> have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
> to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
> opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
> it.
>
> A safe and happy Memorial day to all!
>
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Orlando, FL
>
>
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Without the bitrate or compression ratio, that isn't enough info to
go on unless they send it uncompressed.

On May 27, 2005, at 3:15 PM, M. Shane Sturgeon wrote:

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>
>
> Well, according to iMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/
> technical),
> it's 1080p/24, with a runtime of 140 minutes.
>
> So who's good at the math part?
>
> I imagine they had a fairly beefy satellite download feed ...
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
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> When in doubt, call the Theater.
>
> The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the projector is a DLP.
> I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
> Anthony R.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of M. Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:00 PM
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>
>
> I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital
> distribution for
> this episode.
>
> I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or
> physically
> carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two
> types
> of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other.
> Of course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of
> anything like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly
> interested.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
> deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
> Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years
> subscription and
> I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.
>
> Now for something completely different.
>
> I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last
> night.
> The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
> this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
> celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
> intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated
> to the
> point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
> opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
> gave me a headache.
>
> The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely
> calibrated
> HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you
> could
> see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking
> like
> overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that
> were a
> bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
> improved presentation.
>
> Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
> kind of a proprietary HD format disc?
>
> What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
> hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
> have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
> to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
> opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
> it.
>
> A safe and happy Memorial day to all!
>
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Orlando, FL
>
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Folks should also call the theater and attempt to find someone who can tell them what the resolution of the projector is. The one I
saw the last Star Wars in was already a year old and not of sufficient resolution for the size of the screen and seating distances.
Blacks were poor and contrast was wanting. I sat 2/3 of the way back, in the middle, and could regularly detect pixel structure.

This was at the United Artists Pavilions cineplex in the 16th Street Mall, downtown Denver. A week later I viewed the picture in
the film format. It looked much better. Two weeks after that, I saw the picture at Skywalker Ranch in Lucas' Stag Theater. It was
state of the art and looked better than the film version I saw.

Good luck finding anyone who knows anything definitive about the projector in your local digital cinema. A possible clue to the
quality of the projector would be how long they've had it. I saw Episode III last weekend on film, in a THX venue. The blacks were
not as good as a properly set up CRT, but about average for the typical commercial theater. I thought the print looked decent
overall.

One thing will be assured by seeing the movie in a digital cinema. That will be a good sound track. Film theaters will typically
destroy the Dolby Digital and SDDS digital codes printed on the film within 3 to 10 days. The DTS format uses a timing sync code
that keeps it aligned with a CD ROM. That format can last a bit longer. When the digital code is damaged enough, the theater's
sound system defaults to the old optical Dolby surround track. Most people who wait too long to see a film in the theater never
hear the digital sound track until they rent the DVD.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"


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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:27 PM
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Without the bitrate or compression ratio, that isn't enough info to
go on unless they send it uncompressed.

On May 27, 2005, at 3:15 PM, M. Shane Sturgeon wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> Well, according to iMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/
> technical),
> it's 1080p/24, with a runtime of 140 minutes.
>
> So who's good at the math part?
>
> I imagine they had a fairly beefy satellite download feed ...
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
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> The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the projector is a DLP.
> I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
> Anthony R.
>
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> I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital
> distribution for
> this episode.
>
> I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or
> physically
> carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two
> types
> of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other.
> Of course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of
> anything like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly
> interested.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
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> First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
> deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
> Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years
> subscription and
> I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.
>
> Now for something completely different.
>
> I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last
> night.
> The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
> this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
> celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
> intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated
> to the
> point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
> opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
> gave me a headache.
>
> The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely
> calibrated
> HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you
> could
> see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking
> like
> overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that
> were a
> bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
> improved presentation.
>
> Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
> kind of a proprietary HD format disc?
>
> What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
> hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
> have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
> to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
> opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
> it.
>
> A safe and happy Memorial day to all!
>
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Orlando, FL
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Digital Cinema just appeared here in Rochester, NY (Home of Kodak). As
I understand it there are two or three companies in the business of
providing distribution systems for digital movies. I think Boeing (yes,
that Boeing) is one and know that Kodak is another. The following is a
link to Kodak's web page on Digital Cinema:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/produ ... 30.6&lc=en
<http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/digital/featurePresentations.jhtml?id=0.1.4.30.6&lc=en>

Kodak has been quite active in "pre-show" systems, but our local theater
is one of only 4 Kodak feature film systems. So what Kodak does is not
necessarily true for the others. Our local system received Star Wars
III on encrypted DVD.

The projector used here is a BARCO 2K:

http://www.barco.com/digitalcinema/en/p ... ement=1721

I understand that this projector and a similar model from Christie are
common.

I saw Star Wars III yesterday. My impression was that the image was
very sharp. Though the image appeared to be "punchy" I thought that the
blacks were somewhat compressed. I'm not sure if this was the projector
calibration or "artistic intent".

It is interesting to note that Star Wars III was made with a completely
digital process. The Sony cameras used have full HD resolution (1920 x
1080p). Now film itself is capable of far greater resolution than that.
As a result, the film versions of this are limited by the resolution of
the original. Some reviews of Star Wars II noted that the film versions
were "softer" than most films.

The presentation here had several previews, shown digitally. These were
likely all originated on film. Though a comparison was difficult, I
felt that the images shown in the 5 or 6 previews were superior to the
(Star Wars) feature.

BUT, the problem with film in theaters these days is that the
presentation is frequently crap! Equipment is poorly maintained, light
levels are reduced to save $$$, one projectionist is used for 20
screens, etc. Frankly, HDTV at home is better in PQ (and sound) than
most movie theaters. A lot of attention is being paid to the various
digital screens around the country - and the result is that, right now,
the digital picture is far superior to the film picture.



Steve Martin wrote:

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> Without the bitrate or compression ratio, that isn't enough info to
> go on unless they send it uncompressed.
>
> On May 27, 2005, at 3:15 PM, M. Shane Sturgeon wrote:
>
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>>
>>
>> Well, according to iMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/
>> technical),
>> it's 1080p/24, with a runtime of 140 minutes.
>>
>> So who's good at the math part?
>>
>> I imagine they had a fairly beefy satellite download feed ...
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | "Anthony Rizzuto" |
>> | | <[email protected]>|
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
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>> When in doubt, call the Theater.
>>
>> The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the projector is a DLP.
>> I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
>> Anthony R.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>> Of M. Shane Sturgeon
>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:00 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
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>>
>> I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital distribution
>> for
>> this episode.
>>
>> I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or physically
>> carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two types
>> of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other.
>> Of course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of
>> anything like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly interested.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | "Anthony Rizzuto" |
>> | | <[email protected]>|
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
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>>
>>
>> First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
>> deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
>> Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years subscription
>> and
>> I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.
>>
>> Now for something completely different.
>>
>> I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last
>> night.
>> The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
>> this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
>> celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
>> intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated to
>> the
>> point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
>> opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
>> gave me a headache.
>>
>> The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely
>> calibrated
>> HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you
>> could
>> see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking like
>> overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that
>> were a
>> bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
>> improved presentation.
>>
>> Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
>> kind of a proprietary HD format disc?
>>
>> What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
>> hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
>> have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
>> to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
>> opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
>> it.
>>
>> A safe and happy Memorial day to all!
>>
>> Anthony Rizzuto
>> Orlando, FL
>>
>>
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Hello Dave,

Could you let me know what theaters in Rochester are showing them digitally?
I may be visiting family soon and would like to check it out.

> From: Dave Hancock <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:55:11 -0400
> To: HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Slightly off topic
>
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>
> Digital Cinema just appeared here in Rochester, NY (Home of Kodak). As
> I understand it there are two or three companies in the business of
> providing distribution systems for digital movies. I think Boeing (yes,
> that Boeing) is one and know that Kodak is another. The following is a
> link to Kodak's web page on Digital Cinema:
>
> http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/produ ... ions.jhtml?
> id=0.1.4.30.6&lc=en
> <http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/digital/featurePresentations.jhtml
> ?id=0.1.4.30.6&lc=en>
>
> Kodak has been quite active in "pre-show" systems, but our local theater
> is one of only 4 Kodak feature film systems. So what Kodak does is not
> necessarily true for the others. Our local system received Star Wars
> III on encrypted DVD.
>
> The projector used here is a BARCO 2K:
>
> http://www.barco.com/digitalcinema/en/p ... ement=1721
>
> I understand that this projector and a similar model from Christie are
> common.
>
> I saw Star Wars III yesterday. My impression was that the image was
> very sharp. Though the image appeared to be "punchy" I thought that the
> blacks were somewhat compressed. I'm not sure if this was the projector
> calibration or "artistic intent".
>
> It is interesting to note that Star Wars III was made with a completely
> digital process. The Sony cameras used have full HD resolution (1920 x
> 1080p). Now film itself is capable of far greater resolution than that.
> As a result, the film versions of this are limited by the resolution of
> the original. Some reviews of Star Wars II noted that the film versions
> were "softer" than most films.
>
> The presentation here had several previews, shown digitally. These were
> likely all originated on film. Though a comparison was difficult, I
> felt that the images shown in the 5 or 6 previews were superior to the
> (Star Wars) feature.
>
> BUT, the problem with film in theaters these days is that the
> presentation is frequently crap! Equipment is poorly maintained, light
> levels are reduced to save $$$, one projectionist is used for 20
> screens, etc. Frankly, HDTV at home is better in PQ (and sound) than
> most movie theaters. A lot of attention is being paid to the various
> digital screens around the country - and the result is that, right now,
> the digital picture is far superior to the film picture.
>
>
>
> Steve Martin wrote:
>
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>>
>> Without the bitrate or compression ratio, that isn't enough info to
>> go on unless they send it uncompressed.
>>
>> On May 27, 2005, at 3:15 PM, M. Shane Sturgeon wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, according to iMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/
>>> technical),
>>> it's 1080p/24, with a runtime of 140 minutes.
>>>
>>> So who's good at the math part?
>>>
>>> I imagine they had a fairly beefy satellite download feed ...
>>>
>>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>>> | | "Anthony Rizzuto" |
>>> | | <[email protected]>|
>>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
>>> | | Magazine" |
>>> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>>> | | vehdtv.com> |
>>> | | |
>>> | | |
>>> | | 05/27/2005 04:18 PM |
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>>> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
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>>> topic
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> When in doubt, call the Theater.
>>>
>>> The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the projector is a DLP.
>>> I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
>>> Anthony R.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>>> Of M. Shane Sturgeon
>>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:00 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: Re: Slightly off topic
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital distribution
>>> for
>>> this episode.
>>>
>>> I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or physically
>>> carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two types
>>> of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other.
>>> Of course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of
>>> anything like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly interested.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>>> | | "Anthony Rizzuto" |
>>> | | <[email protected]>|
>>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
>>> | | Magazine" |
>>> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>>> | | vehdtv.com> |
>>> | | |
>>> | | |
>>> | | 05/27/2005 04:01 PM |
>>> | | Please respond to |
>>> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
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>>> |
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>>> |
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>>> |
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>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
>>> deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
>>> Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years subscription
>>> and
>>> I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.
>>>
>>> Now for something completely different.
>>>
>>> I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last
>>> night.
>>> The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
>>> this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
>>> celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
>>> intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated to
>>> the
>>> point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
>>> opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
>>> gave me a headache.
>>>
>>> The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely
>>> calibrated
>>> HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you
>>> could
>>> see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking like
>>> overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that
>>> were a
>>> bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
>>> improved presentation.
>>>
>>> Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
>>> kind of a proprietary HD format disc?
>>>
>>> What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
>>> hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
>>> have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
>>> to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
>>> opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
>>> it.
>>>
>>> A safe and happy Memorial day to all!
>>>
>>> Anthony Rizzuto
>>> Orlando, FL
>>>
>>>
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It's at the Cinemark Tinseltown on the west side (Gates, NY). They are
showing film on 4 screens and digital on one. Their listings
differentiate ("DLP").

Enjoy.

James F.Healy Jr. wrote:

>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>Hello Dave,
>
>Could you let me know what theaters in Rochester are showing them digitally?
>I may be visiting family soon and would like to check it out.
>
>
>
>>From: Dave Hancock <[email protected]>
>>Reply-To: HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
>>Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:55:11 -0400
>>To: HDTV Magazine <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: Slightly off topic
>>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Digital Cinema just appeared here in Rochester, NY (Home of Kodak). As
>>I understand it there are two or three companies in the business of
>>providing distribution systems for digital movies. I think Boeing (yes,
>>that Boeing) is one and know that Kodak is another. The following is a
>>link to Kodak's web page on Digital Cinema:
>>
>>http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/digital/featurePresentations.jhtml?
>>id=0.1.4.30.6&lc=en
>><http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/digital/featurePresentations.jhtml
>>?id=0.1.4.30.6&lc=en>
>>
>>Kodak has been quite active in "pre-show" systems, but our local theater
>>is one of only 4 Kodak feature film systems. So what Kodak does is not
>>necessarily true for the others. Our local system received Star Wars
>>III on encrypted DVD.
>>
>>The projector used here is a BARCO 2K:
>>
>>http://www.barco.com/digitalcinema/en/products/product.asp?element=1721
>>
>>I understand that this projector and a similar model from Christie are
>>common.
>>
>>I saw Star Wars III yesterday. My impression was that the image was
>>very sharp. Though the image appeared to be "punchy" I thought that the
>>blacks were somewhat compressed. I'm not sure if this was the projector
>>calibration or "artistic intent".
>>
>>It is interesting to note that Star Wars III was made with a completely
>>digital process. The Sony cameras used have full HD resolution (1920 x
>>1080p). Now film itself is capable of far greater resolution than that.
>>As a result, the film versions of this are limited by the resolution of
>>the original. Some reviews of Star Wars II noted that the film versions
>>were "softer" than most films.
>>
>>The presentation here had several previews, shown digitally. These were
>>likely all originated on film. Though a comparison was difficult, I
>>felt that the images shown in the 5 or 6 previews were superior to the
>>(Star Wars) feature.
>>
>>BUT, the problem with film in theaters these days is that the
>>presentation is frequently crap! Equipment is poorly maintained, light
>>levels are reduced to save $$$, one projectionist is used for 20
>>screens, etc. Frankly, HDTV at home is better in PQ (and sound) than
>>most movie theaters. A lot of attention is being paid to the various
>>digital screens around the country - and the result is that, right now,
>>the digital picture is far superior to the film picture.
>>
>>
>>
>>Steve Martin wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Without the bitrate or compression ratio, that isn't enough info to
>>>go on unless they send it uncompressed.
>>>
>>>On May 27, 2005, at 3:15 PM, M. Shane Sturgeon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, according to iMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/
>>>>technical),
>>>>it's 1080p/24, with a runtime of 140 minutes.
>>>>
>>>>So who's good at the math part?
>>>>
>>>>I imagine they had a fairly beefy satellite download feed ...
>>>>
>>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>|---------+--------------------------------->
>>>>| | "Anthony Rizzuto" |
>>>>| | <[email protected]>|
>>>>| | Sent by: "HDTV |
>>>>| | Magazine" |
>>>>| | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
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>>>>| | |
>>>>| | |
>>>>| | 05/27/2005 04:18 PM |
>>>>| | Please respond to |
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>>>>The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the projector is a DLP.
>>>>I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
>>>>Anthony R.
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>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
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>>>>I didn't even realize that they had any sort of digital distribution
>>>>for
>>>>this episode.
>>>>
>>>>I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite download or physically
>>>>carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe there were two types
>>>>of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ... don't recall the other.
>>>>Of course, that was all with Episode II ... haven't heard or read of
>>>>anything like this for Episode III ... although I am keenly interested.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>First, to those who have been around awhile. I was finally able to
>>>>deliver on my promise to Dale regarding a donation to the cause.
>>>>Although I am a lifetime member I also paid for a years subscription
>>>>and
>>>>I bought Rodolfo's report. I would encourage others to do the same.
>>>>
>>>>Now for something completely different.
>>>>
>>>>I saw a digital performance of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith last
>>>>night.
>>>>The AMC theater at Disney World has one of their 24 screens set up for
>>>>this. I had seen the film the previous week projected in standard
>>>>celluloid. The difference between the two mediums is dramatic, no pun
>>>>intended. The colors in the celluloid version were oversaturated to
>>>>the
>>>>point of distraction. It was very difficult to see the detail in the
>>>>opening sequence and it ended up looking like a video game and which
>>>>gave me a headache.
>>>>
>>>>The digital presentation looked more on the order of a finely
>>>>calibrated
>>>>HD display. The colors were much more subdued and as a result you
>>>>could
>>>>see all the detail in the opening sequence and rather that looking like
>>>>overblown cgi, it looked realistic. There were a few scenes that
>>>>were a
>>>>bit dark and faces were hidden in shadow but overall it was a much
>>>>improved presentation.
>>>>
>>>>Now for the questions. How is this accomplished? Are they using some
>>>>kind of a proprietary HD format disc?
>>>>
>>>>What kind of a projector is it? Is it DLP, CRT or again some kind of
>>>>hybrid. Truthfully the color registration reminded me of the rp crt I
>>>>have at home since the unit was calibrated. If anyone has any answers
>>>>to the above questions I would love to hear them. If you have the
>>>>opportunity to see a digital version of the film I strongly recommend
>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>>A safe and happy Memorial day to all!
>>>>
>>>>Anthony Rizzuto
>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>
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At 03:32 PM -0600 05/27/05, Alan Brown wrote:
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>Folks should also call the theater and attempt to find someone who
>can tell them what the resolution of the projector is. The one I
>saw the last Star Wars in was already a year old and not of
>sufficient resolution for the size of the screen and seating
>distances.
>Blacks were poor and contrast was wanting. I sat 2/3 of the way
>back, in the middle, and could regularly detect pixel structure.

There's a thread on AVSforum that has a list of those theaters with
the new 2k Sony? projectors. Since if I do go see Ep III, I'll be
going for the spectacle I figure I'd pay my local DLP theater a
visit--not going for the plot and dialog. The 2k is supposed to be
the most recent (aka in production) digital cinema projector.

erik g


p.s. though the real complaints have been with the sound guess you
need the right system;) http://www.mksound.com/starwars2005.htm

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Alan
great info for us digitally challenged folks

The Dig delivery method has always fascinated me and
sound info is great
Tomv

--- Alan Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Folks should also call the theater and attempt to
> find someone who can tell them what the resolution
> of the projector is. The one I
> saw the last Star Wars in was already a year old and
> not of sufficient resolution for the size of the
> screen and seating distances.
> Blacks were poor and contrast was wanting. I sat
> 2/3 of the way back, in the middle, and could
> regularly detect pixel structure.
>
> This was at the United Artists Pavilions cineplex in
> the 16th Street Mall, downtown Denver. A week later
> I viewed the picture in
> the film format. It looked much better. Two weeks
> after that, I saw the picture at Skywalker Ranch in
> Lucas' Stag Theater. It was
> state of the art and looked better than the film
> version I saw.
>
> Good luck finding anyone who knows anything
> definitive about the projector in your local digital
> cinema. A possible clue to the
> quality of the projector would be how long they've
> had it. I saw Episode III last weekend on film, in
> a THX venue. The blacks were
> not as good as a properly set up CRT, but about
> average for the typical commercial theater. I
> thought the print looked decent
> overall.
>
> One thing will be assured by seeing the movie in a
> digital cinema. That will be a good sound track.
> Film theaters will typically
> destroy the Dolby Digital and SDDS digital codes
> printed on the film within 3 to 10 days. The DTS
> format uses a timing sync code
> that keeps it aligned with a CD ROM. That format
> can last a bit longer. When the digital code is
> damaged enough, the theater's
> sound system defaults to the old optical Dolby
> surround track. Most people who wait too long to
> see a film in the theater never
> hear the digital sound track until they rent the
> DVD.
>
> Best regards and beautiful pictures,
> Alan Brown, President
> CinemaQuest, Inc.
> www.cinemaquestinc.com
>
> "Advancing the art and science of electronic
> imaging"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf Of
> Steve Martin
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:27 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Slightly off topic
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
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> Without the bitrate or compression ratio, that isn't
> enough info to
> go on unless they send it uncompressed.
>
> On May 27, 2005, at 3:15 PM, M. Shane Sturgeon
> wrote:
>
> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
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> >
> > Well, according to iMDB
> (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/
> > technical),
> > it's 1080p/24, with a runtime of 140 minutes.
> >
> > So who's good at the math part?
> >
> > I imagine they had a fairly beefy satellite
> download feed ...
> >
> > -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> >
> >
> >
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> > The film was downloaded onto a hard drive and the
> projector is a DLP.
> > I'd hate to imagine how long that download took!!!
>
> > Anthony R.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf
> > Of M. Shane Sturgeon
> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:00 PM
> > To: HDTV Magazine
> > Subject: Re: Slightly off topic
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> > I didn't even realize that they had any sort of
> digital
> > distribution for
> > this episode.
> >
> > I believe with Ep. II, they either had satellite
> download or
> > physically
> > carried hard disks to the theaters. And I believe
> there were two
> > types
> > of projectors used: one was a TI DLP model ...
> don't recall the other.
> > Of course, that was all with Episode II ...
> haven't heard or read of
> > anything like this for Episode III ... although I
> am keenly
> > interested.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -- M. Shane Sturgeon
> >
> >
> >
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