Sony 50"/60" SXRDs

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Great info, Richard! How much did you pay for your set, where did you get
it, and did you opt for an extended warranty?

Jason

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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Richard and Carrie Bray
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs

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We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the new
Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add my direct
observations.

It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen Vision to
provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent picture, many
thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and Lumagen to get
it to that point.

Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take the set
off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots" (their
recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for "corrections". I

have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested only very
minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.

I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert 480i to
1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony, provided

just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D* standard
definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D* locals
are very watchable; although better from my antenna.

I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright picture,
while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another league.
The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks, needs to see

these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for these
sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.

The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on good
transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
starved HBO movies on D*.

I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and worked
hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good. Before I got

the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it would help;
but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll bother.
Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait for next
year's perfect set.

Regards to all, Richard




----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice


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>
> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Dave Hancock
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>
>
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>
> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new Sony
> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web site
> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
> store.
>
> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p inputs.
>
> Dave Hancock
>
> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>
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>>
>>Jason,
>>
>>I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price range
>>and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard fan of
>>CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work. The 51"
>>Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>(65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi 57" HDTV
>>(57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this is
>>more
>>than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
> price
>>point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com and
>>type
>>Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>
>>Happy Hunting
>>
>>Anthony R.
>>Orlando, FL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>Jason Burroughs
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
> quality,
>>is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a way that
>>the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing some math,
> I
>>come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture heights).
> He
>>would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need to hang
>>it on the wall.
>>
>>>From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from DLP due
>>>to
>>screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm thinking
>>of
>>steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything less than
>>about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd also
>>like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
> receiver
>>and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>
>>To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector 42" -
> 50"
>>HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>needed).
>>
>>
>>Any advice is appreciated!
>>
>>
>>
>>Jason
>>
>>
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My concern with the Sony SXRD's (if Widescreen Review is correct) is
the extremely off standard green primary.

My Samsung HL-P5063 had a similar issue (although not as bad as the
Sony if the WR colorimetry graph is to be trusted) but fortunately
the primary and secondary colors can be calibrated on that set.

The result is "neon" looking oversaturated greens and to some extent
yellows.

The Widescreen Review said the following...

"Colorimetry was exceptionally accurate for both digital and analog,
1080i, and 480p; the exception was green, which was very saturated.
Although not accurate, this saturated green had a pleasing
effect. ... Green fungus on the trees was almost Day-Glo!".

I can't stand the way a magazine will point out what to me is a
glaring defect and then make it sound like the inaccuracy doesn't
matter or in this case is "pleasing". Have you ever seen Day-Glo
fungus on a tree?

Then there is the dynamic iris "feature" which again makes me
cringe. Hopefully there is some way in the service mode to disable
it so that black and white levels won't be dynamic.

The bottom line is that every TV these days has some flaw or
another. You have to choose your poison, unfortunately.


On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:

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>
> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding
> the new Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted
> to add my direct observations.
>
> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed
> by a technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
> Vision to provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an
> excellent picture, many thought the best HD they had seen. But, it
> took the ISF and Lumagen to get it to that point.
>
> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
> the set off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony
> "dots" (their recommended positions), and turn off the many
> controls for "corrections". I have subsequently used Avia and DVE
> but they required suggested only very minor changes for
> brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on". Geometry and
> convergence screens show no problems.
>
> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
> 480i to 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was
> pleasantly surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct
> to the Sony, provided just as good, and a little sharper standard
> definition. The D* standard definition channels like Fox News and
> HGTV look very good. The D* locals are very watchable; although
> better from my antenna.
>
> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
> picture, while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in
> another league. The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be
> seen to be believed. Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs
> provide great blacks, needs to see these sets. Watching Leno or
> Letterman shows the true potential for these sets if given a good
> feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the eventual Blu Ray
> will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>
> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD
> on good transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some
> of the bit starved HBO movies on D*.
>
> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the
> "greatest". That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my
> Mitsubishi; and worked hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to
> where it was good. Before I got the Sony home, I fully expected to
> have it ISFed. I presume it would help; but at the moment I'm so
> totally satisfied that I don't think I'll bother. Plus, every day
> that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait for next year's
> perfect set.
>
> Regards to all, Richard
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>> Behalf Of
>> Dave Hancock
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the
>> new Sony
>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's)
>> web site
>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of
>> the 60"
>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in
>> the
>> store.
>>
>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>> inputs.
>>
>> Dave Hancock
>>
>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>> price range
>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>> hard fan of
>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>> The 51"
>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV
>>> Display
>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>> 57" HDTV
>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>> this is more
>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.}
>>> The
>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI
>>> input.
>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>> amazing
>>>
>> price
>>
>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not
>>> the
>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to
>>> www.circuitcity.com and type
>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>
>>> Happy Hunting
>>>
>>> Anthony R.
>>> Orlando, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Jason Burroughs
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>
>> quality,
>>
>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>> way that
>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>> some math,
>>>
>> I
>>
>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>> heights).
>>>
>> He
>>
>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not
>>> need to hang
>>> it on the wall.
>>>
>>>
>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>> DLP due to
>>>>
>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>> thinking of
>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>> less than
>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD.
>>> I'd also
>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>
>> receiver
>>
>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>
>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear
>>> projector 42" -
>>>
>> 50"
>>
>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p
>>> not needed).
>>>
>>>
>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Regarding Jason's question: I got it over Sear's internet site. They have
a 30 day price match guarantee for any local dealer or local dealer's
national internet site. I ended up with a CC price match that was around
$350 off the MSRP. Others have done better. But, I knew that Sears would
take it back if I had any problems.

I did get the 5 year extended warranty. It's high, around $890 if I
remember right. However, I went with it because it cover's unlimited lamp
replacement ($250 each). We're retired and the set runs in the background
(meaning if we walk through the family room during the day and hear
something interesting--we stop to watch) probably 14 hours per day. That
equates to around 5,000 hours per year. Sony hasn't given a projection for
the lamp life; however, the Qualia's (same technology but 200w vice the new
set's 120w) is projected at 2,000 hours. Other DLP/LCD lamps last up to
6,000-8,000 hours. So we could probably expect to go through something
between 3 and 12 lamps during this period. Even if it were only 2, I would
then be paying $400 for the warranty coverage for everything but the lamps.
If 12, I just hit the jackpot.

Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Burroughs" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs


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>
> Great info, Richard! How much did you pay for your set, where did you get
> it, and did you opt for an extended warranty?
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Richard and Carrie Bray
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:19 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the new
> Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add my
> direct
> observations.
>
> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
> technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen Vision to
> provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent picture,
> many
> thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and Lumagen to
> get
> it to that point.
>
> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take the set
> off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots" (their
> recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for "corrections".
> I
>
> have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested only very
> minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
> Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>
> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert 480i to
> 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
> provided
>
> just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D* standard
> definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D* locals
> are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>
> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright picture,
> while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another league.
> The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
> Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks, needs to
> see
>
> these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for these
> sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
> eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>
> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on good
> transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
> starved HBO movies on D*.
>
> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and worked
> hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good. Before I
> got
>
> the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it would
> help;
> but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll bother.
> Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait for
> next
> year's perfect set.
>
> Regards to all, Richard
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>> Dave Hancock
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new Sony
>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web site
>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
>> store.
>>
>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>> inputs.
>>
>> Dave Hancock
>>
>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Jason,
>>>
>>>I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price range
>>>and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard fan
>>>of
>>>CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work. The 51"
>>>Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>>(65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi 57" HDTV
>>>(57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this is
>>>more
>>>than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>>downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>>Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
>> price
>>>point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>>internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com and
>>>type
>>>Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>
>>>Happy Hunting
>>>
>>>Anthony R.
>>>Orlando, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>>Jason Burroughs
>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>> quality,
>>>is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a way
>>>that
>>>the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing some
>>>math,
>> I
>>>come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture heights).
>> He
>>>would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need to
>>>hang
>>>it on the wall.
>>>
>>>>From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from DLP due
>>>>to
>>>screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm thinking
>>>of
>>>steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything less
>>>than
>>>about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd also
>>>like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>> receiver
>>>and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>
>>>To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector 42" -
>> 50"
>>>HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>needed).
>>>
>>>
>>>Any advice is appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
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Regarding Steve's Question.

I haven't previously noticed problems with the greens. Unfortunately, now
that you mention it, I'll probably be fixated on the issue. If I do notice
a problem; would it be addressable via ISF?

The dynamic Iris can be set via the user controls to "off", "low", "medium",
or "high". I have my standard iris set at "2" out of 4 and the dynamic Iris
set at "low". I've never noticed when the dynamic Iris changes; but I've
read on the AVS users forum for the set that if it is on "high" it can
become a distraction. Sony first used this dynamic Iris on the Qualia 004
front projector.

Richard

----- Original Message -----
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To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs


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>
> My concern with the Sony SXRD's (if Widescreen Review is correct) is the
> extremely off standard green primary.
>
> My Samsung HL-P5063 had a similar issue (although not as bad as the Sony
> if the WR colorimetry graph is to be trusted) but fortunately the primary
> and secondary colors can be calibrated on that set.
>
> The result is "neon" looking oversaturated greens and to some extent
> yellows.
>
> The Widescreen Review said the following...
>
> "Colorimetry was exceptionally accurate for both digital and analog,
> 1080i, and 480p; the exception was green, which was very saturated.
> Although not accurate, this saturated green had a pleasing effect. ...
> Green fungus on the trees was almost Day-Glo!".
>
> I can't stand the way a magazine will point out what to me is a glaring
> defect and then make it sound like the inaccuracy doesn't matter or in
> this case is "pleasing". Have you ever seen Day-Glo fungus on a tree?
>
> Then there is the dynamic iris "feature" which again makes me cringe.
> Hopefully there is some way in the service mode to disable it so that
> black and white levels won't be dynamic.
>
> The bottom line is that every TV these days has some flaw or another.
> You have to choose your poison, unfortunately.
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the new
>> Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add my
>> direct observations.
>>
>> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>> technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen Vision to
>> provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent picture,
>> many thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and
>> Lumagen to get it to that point.
>>
>> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take the
>> set off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>> (their recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>> "corrections". I have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required
>> suggested only very minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per
>> Avia was "right on". Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>
>> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert 480i
>> to 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>> provided just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D*
>> standard definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The
>> D* locals are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>
>> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright picture,
>> while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another league.
>> The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>> Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks, needs to
>> see these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for
>> these sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from
>> the eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>
>> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on
>> good transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the
>> bit starved HBO movies on D*.
>>
>> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>> worked hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
>> Before I got the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I
>> presume it would help; but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I
>> don't think I'll bother. Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad
>> that I didn't wait for next year's perfect set.
>>
>> Regards to all, Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>
>>> Anthony R.
>>> Orlando, FL
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Dave Hancock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new
>>> Sony
>>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web
>>> site
>>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
>>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
>>> store.
>>>
>>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>> inputs.
>>>
>>> Dave Hancock
>>>
>>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price
>>>> range
>>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard
>>>> fan of
>>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work. The
>>>> 51"
>>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi 57"
>>>> HDTV
>>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this is
>>>> more
>>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
>>>>
>>> price
>>>
>>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com and
>>>> type
>>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Hunting
>>>>
>>>> Anthony R.
>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Jason Burroughs
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>
>>> quality,
>>>
>>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a way
>>>> that
>>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing some
>>>> math,
>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>> heights).
>>>>
>>> He
>>>
>>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need to
>>>> hang
>>>> it on the wall.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from DLP
>>>>> due to
>>>>>
>>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>> thinking of
>>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything less
>>>> than
>>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd
>>>> also
>>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>
>>> receiver
>>>
>>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>
>>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector
>>>> 42" -
>>>>
>>> 50"
>>>
>>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>> needed).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp) correct?
Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55" model that
this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near them with
a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I won't go near
any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector on the
next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really great
things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh that one
out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm using as a
theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black levels as
I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Richard and Carrie Bray
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the new
Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add my direct
observations.

It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen Vision to
provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent picture, many
thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and Lumagen to get
it to that point.

Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take the set
off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots" (their
recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for "corrections". I
have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested only very
minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.

I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert 480i to
1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony, provided
just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D* standard
definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D* locals
are very watchable; although better from my antenna.

I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright picture,
while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another league.
The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks, needs to see
these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for these
sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.

The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on good
transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
starved HBO movies on D*.

I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and worked
hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good. Before I got
the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it would help;
but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll bother.
Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait for next
year's perfect set.

Regards to all, Richard




----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Dave Hancock
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new Sony
> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web site
> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
> store.
>
> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p inputs.
>
> Dave Hancock
>
> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Jason,
>>
>>I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price range
>>and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard fan of
>>CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work. The 51"
>>Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>(65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi 57" HDTV
>>(57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this is
>>more
>>than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
> price
>>point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com and
>>type
>>Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>
>>Happy Hunting
>>
>>Anthony R.
>>Orlando, FL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>Jason Burroughs
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
> quality,
>>is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a way that
>>the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing some math,
> I
>>come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture heights).
> He
>>would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need to hang
>>it on the wall.
>>
>>>From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from DLP due
>>>to
>>screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm thinking
>>of
>>steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything less than
>>about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd also
>>like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
> receiver
>>and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>
>>To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector 42" -
> 50"
>>HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>needed).
>>
>>
>>Any advice is appreciated!
>>
>>
>>
>>Jason
>>
>>
>>
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Just don't watch golf I'm not aware of any adjustments that
would correct the issue with the green primary.

That is good news about the iris. Being able to turn it off and set
it lowest at night and higher perhaps during the day would probably
suit me fine.

On Oct 20, 2005, at 12:16 PM, Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Regarding Steve's Question.
>
> I haven't previously noticed problems with the greens.
> Unfortunately, now that you mention it, I'll probably be fixated on
> the issue. If I do notice a problem; would it be addressable via ISF?
>
> The dynamic Iris can be set via the user controls to "off", "low",
> "medium", or "high". I have my standard iris set at "2" out of 4
> and the dynamic Iris set at "low". I've never noticed when the
> dynamic Iris changes; but I've read on the AVS users forum for the
> set that if it is on "high" it can become a distraction. Sony
> first used this dynamic Iris on the Qualia 004 front projector.
>
> Richard
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Martin"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> My concern with the Sony SXRD's (if Widescreen Review is correct)
>> is the extremely off standard green primary.
>>
>> My Samsung HL-P5063 had a similar issue (although not as bad as
>> the Sony if the WR colorimetry graph is to be trusted) but
>> fortunately the primary and secondary colors can be calibrated on
>> that set.
>>
>> The result is "neon" looking oversaturated greens and to some
>> extent yellows.
>>
>> The Widescreen Review said the following...
>>
>> "Colorimetry was exceptionally accurate for both digital and
>> analog, 1080i, and 480p; the exception was green, which was very
>> saturated. Although not accurate, this saturated green had a
>> pleasing effect. ... Green fungus on the trees was almost Day-Glo!".
>>
>> I can't stand the way a magazine will point out what to me is a
>> glaring defect and then make it sound like the inaccuracy doesn't
>> matter or in this case is "pleasing". Have you ever seen Day-Glo
>> fungus on a tree?
>>
>> Then there is the dynamic iris "feature" which again makes me
>> cringe. Hopefully there is some way in the service mode to
>> disable it so that black and white levels won't be dynamic.
>>
>> The bottom line is that every TV these days has some flaw or
>> another. You have to choose your poison, unfortunately.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding
>>> the new Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and
>>> wanted to add my direct observations.
>>>
>>> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been
>>> ISF'ed by a technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used
>>> a Lumagen Vision to provide acceptable SD. It had what I
>>> considered an excellent picture, many thought the best HD they
>>> had seen. But, it took the ISF and Lumagen to get it to that
>>> point.
>>>
>>> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was
>>> take the set off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on
>>> the Sony "dots" (their recommended positions), and turn off the
>>> many controls for "corrections". I have subsequently used Avia
>>> and DVE but they required suggested only very minor changes for
>>> brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on". Geometry and
>>> convergence screens show no problems.
>>>
>>> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to
>>> upconvert 480i to 1080i for feeding standard definition to the
>>> Sony. I was pleasantly surprised to discover that my HD Tivo
>>> via HDMI, direct to the Sony, provided just as good, and a
>>> little sharper standard definition. The D* standard definition
>>> channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D* locals
>>> are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>>
>>> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>>> picture, while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely
>>> in another league. The blacks and shadow detail on this set must
>>> be seen to be believed. Anyone who still maintains that only
>>> CRTs provide great blacks, needs to see these sets. Watching
>>> Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for these sets if
>>> given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>>> eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>
>>> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like
>>> HD on good transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good
>>> as some of the bit starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>
>>> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the
>>> "greatest". That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my
>>> Mitsubishi; and worked hard, and invested quite a bit to get it
>>> to where it was good. Before I got the Sony home, I fully
>>> expected to have it ISFed. I presume it would help; but at the
>>> moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll bother.
>>> Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't
>>> wait for next year's perfect set.
>>>
>>> Regards to all, Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his
>>>> own.
>>>>
>>>> Anthony R.
>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the
>>>> new Sony
>>>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's)
>>>> web site
>>>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of
>>>> the 60"
>>>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best
>>>> in the
>>>> store.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take
>>>> 1080p inputs.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>>
>>>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>>>> price range
>>>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>>>> hard fan of
>>>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would
>>>>> work. The 51"
>>>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV
>>>>> Display
>>>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00,
>>>>> Hitachi 57" HDTV
>>>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>>>> this is more
>>>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the
>>>>> mix.} The
>>>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI
>>>>> input.
>>>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>>>> amazing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> price
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City,
>>>>> not the
>>>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to
>>>>> www.circuitcity.com and type
>>>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Hunting
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony R.
>>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Jason Burroughs
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to
>>>>> video
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> quality,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such
>>>>> a way that
>>>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so
>>>>> doing some math,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>> heights).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> He
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not
>>>>> need to hang
>>>>> it on the wall.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away
>>>>>> from DLP due to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>> thinking of
>>>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find
>>>>> anything less than
>>>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or
>>>>> LCD. I'd also
>>>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be
>>>>> buying a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> receiver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system
>>>>> with an
>>>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear
>>>>> projector 42" -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 50"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p
>>>>> not needed).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
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Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are 70" and
currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.

Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
> purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp) correct?
> Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55" model
> that
> this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
> According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
> Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near them
> with
> a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I won't go
> near
> any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
> native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector on the
> next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really great
> things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh that
> one
> out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm using as a
> theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black levels
> as
> I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
> technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Richard and Carrie Bray
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the new
> Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add my
> direct
> observations.
>
> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
> technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen Vision to
> provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent picture,
> many
> thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and Lumagen to
> get
> it to that point.
>
> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take the set
> off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots" (their
> recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for "corrections".
> I
> have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested only very
> minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
> Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>
> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert 480i to
> 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
> provided
> just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D* standard
> definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D* locals
> are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>
> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright picture,
> while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another league.
> The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
> Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks, needs to
> see
> these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for these
> sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
> eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>
> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on good
> transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
> starved HBO movies on D*.
>
> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and worked
> hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good. Before I
> got
> the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it would
> help;
> but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll bother.
> Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait for
> next
> year's perfect set.
>
> Regards to all, Richard
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>> Dave Hancock
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new Sony
>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web site
>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
>> store.
>>
>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>> inputs.
>>
>> Dave Hancock
>>
>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Jason,
>>>
>>>I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price range
>>>and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard fan
>>>of
>>>CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work. The 51"
>>>Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>>(65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi 57" HDTV
>>>(57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this is
>>>more
>>>than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>>downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>>Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
>> price
>>>point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>>internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com and
>>>type
>>>Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>
>>>Happy Hunting
>>>
>>>Anthony R.
>>>Orlando, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>>Jason Burroughs
>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>> quality,
>>>is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a way
>>>that
>>>the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing some
>>>math,
>> I
>>>come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture heights).
>> He
>>>would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need to
>>>hang
>>>it on the wall.
>>>
>>>>From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from DLP due
>>>>to
>>>screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm thinking
>>>of
>>>steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything less
>>>than
>>>about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd also
>>>like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>> receiver
>>>and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>
>>>To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector 42" -
>> 50"
>>>HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>needed).
>>>
>>>
>>>Any advice is appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Actualy your set is the "next generation" Qualia. By that I mean, it is
similar but uses a next generation SXRD chip, that is smaller (lower
cost to produce) and, from the reviews, has better blacks. Not sure if
the Qualia 70" had the auto iris feature.

Dave Hancock

Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are
> 70" and currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.
>
> Richard
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
>> purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp)
>> correct?
>> Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55"
>> model that
>> this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
>> According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
>> Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near
>> them with
>> a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I won't
>> go near
>> any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
>> native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector on
>> the
>> next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really great
>> things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh
>> that one
>> out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm using
>> as a
>> theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black
>> levels as
>> I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
>> technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>> Richard and Carrie Bray
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the new
>> Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add my
>> direct
>> observations.
>>
>> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>> technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen Vision to
>> provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent
>> picture, many
>> thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and Lumagen
>> to get
>> it to that point.
>>
>> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>> the set
>> off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>> (their
>> recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>> "corrections". I
>> have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested only
>> very
>> minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
>> Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>
>> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>> 480i to
>> 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>> provided
>> just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D* standard
>> definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D*
>> locals
>> are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>
>> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright picture,
>> while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another league.
>> The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>> Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks, needs
>> to see
>> these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for
>> these
>> sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>> eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>
>> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on
>> good
>> transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
>> starved HBO movies on D*.
>>
>> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>> worked
>> hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
>> Before I got
>> the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it would
>> help;
>> but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll
>> bother.
>> Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait
>> for next
>> year's perfect set.
>>
>> Regards to all, Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>
>>> Anthony R.
>>> Orlando, FL
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Dave Hancock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new
>>> Sony
>>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web
>>> site
>>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
>>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
>>> store.
>>>
>>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>> inputs.
>>>
>>> Dave Hancock
>>>
>>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price
>>>> range
>>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard
>>>> fan of
>>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>> The 51"
>>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>> 57" HDTV
>>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this is
>>>> more
>>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
>>>
>>> price
>>>
>>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com and
>>>> type
>>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Hunting
>>>>
>>>> Anthony R.
>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Jason Burroughs
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>
>>> quality,
>>>
>>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>> way that
>>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>> some math,
>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>> heights).
>>>
>>> He
>>>
>>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need
>>>> to hang
>>>> it on the wall.
>>>>
>>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>> DLP due
>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>> thinking
>>>> of
>>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>> less than
>>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd
>>>> also
>>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>
>>> receiver
>>>
>>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>
>>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector
>>>> 42" -
>>>
>>> 50"
>>>
>>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>> needed).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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70" Qualia did not have the dynamic Iris. New ones are also faster . Sony
claims a 2.5ms response time vice 5ms for the Qualia. Other primary
difference is that the Qualia has a more reflective, much heavier, and
probably better screen.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hancock" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs


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>
> Actualy your set is the "next generation" Qualia. By that I mean, it is
> similar but uses a next generation SXRD chip, that is smaller (lower cost
> to produce) and, from the reviews, has better blacks. Not sure if the
> Qualia 70" had the auto iris feature.
>
> Dave Hancock
>
> Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are 70"
>> and currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.
>>
>> Richard
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
>>> purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp)
>>> correct?
>>> Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55" model
>>> that
>>> this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
>>> According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
>>> Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near them
>>> with
>>> a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I won't go
>>> near
>>> any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
>>> native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector on
>>> the
>>> next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really great
>>> things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh that
>>> one
>>> out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm using as
>>> a
>>> theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black
>>> levels as
>>> I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
>>> technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>>>
>>> Anthony R.
>>> Orlando, FL
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>> Richard and Carrie Bray
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the new
>>> Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add my
>>> direct
>>> observations.
>>>
>>> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>>> technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen Vision to
>>> provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent picture,
>>> many
>>> thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and Lumagen to
>>> get
>>> it to that point.
>>>
>>> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take the
>>> set
>>> off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>>> (their
>>> recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>>> "corrections". I
>>> have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested only
>>> very
>>> minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
>>> Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>>
>>> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert 480i
>>> to
>>> 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>>> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>>> provided
>>> just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D* standard
>>> definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D*
>>> locals
>>> are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>>
>>> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright picture,
>>> while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another league.
>>> The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>>> Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks, needs to
>>> see
>>> these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for
>>> these
>>> sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>>> eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>
>>> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on
>>> good
>>> transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
>>> starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>
>>> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>>> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>>> worked
>>> hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good. Before I
>>> got
>>> the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it would
>>> help;
>>> but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll
>>> bother.
>>> Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait for
>>> next
>>> year's perfect set.
>>>
>>> Regards to all, Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>>
>>>> Anthony R.
>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new
>>>> Sony
>>>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web
>>>> site
>>>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
>>>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
>>>> store.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>>> inputs.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>>
>>>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price
>>>>> range
>>>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard
>>>>> fan of
>>>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work. The
>>>>> 51"
>>>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi 57"
>>>>> HDTV
>>>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this is
>>>>> more
>>>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
>>>>
>>>> price
>>>>
>>>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com and
>>>>> type
>>>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Hunting
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony R.
>>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> Jason Burroughs
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>
>>>> quality,
>>>>
>>>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a way
>>>>> that
>>>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing some
>>>>> math,
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>> heights).
>>>>
>>>> He
>>>>
>>>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need to
>>>>> hang
>>>>> it on the wall.
>>>>>
>>>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from DLP
>>>>>> due
>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>> thinking
>>>>> of
>>>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything less
>>>>> than
>>>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd
>>>>> also
>>>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>
>>>> receiver
>>>>
>>>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector
>>>>> 42" -
>>>>
>>>> 50"
>>>>
>>>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>>> needed).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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According to an article (LCoS Shootout) in the latest issue of
"Widescreen Review" the XBR1 chip is not faster - it's just that Sony is
playing games with specs. Old chip was 5ms TOTAL (rise+fall) time, new
chip s 2.5ms rise and 2.5ms fall (total of 5 ms). Keep in mind that 5ms
is a lot better than the times that are typical of LCDs.

I envy you - enjoy!!!!

Dave Hancock

Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> 70" Qualia did not have the dynamic Iris. New ones are also faster .
> Sony claims a 2.5ms response time vice 5ms for the Qualia. Other
> primary difference is that the Qualia has a more reflective, much
> heavier, and probably better screen.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hancock"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Actualy your set is the "next generation" Qualia. By that I mean, it
>> is similar but uses a next generation SXRD chip, that is smaller
>> (lower cost to produce) and, from the reviews, has better blacks.
>> Not sure if the Qualia 70" had the auto iris feature.
>>
>> Dave Hancock
>>
>> Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are
>>> 70" and currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
>>>> purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp)
>>>> correct?
>>>> Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55"
>>>> model that
>>>> this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
>>>> According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
>>>> Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near
>>>> them with
>>>> a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I
>>>> won't go near
>>>> any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
>>>> native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector
>>>> on the
>>>> next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really
>>>> great
>>>> things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh
>>>> that one
>>>> out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm
>>>> using as a
>>>> theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black
>>>> levels as
>>>> I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
>>>> technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>>>>
>>>> Anthony R.
>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Richard and Carrie Bray
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding
>>>> the new
>>>> Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add
>>>> my direct
>>>> observations.
>>>>
>>>> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>>>> technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
>>>> Vision to
>>>> provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent
>>>> picture, many
>>>> thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and
>>>> Lumagen to get
>>>> it to that point.
>>>>
>>>> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>>>> the set
>>>> off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>>>> (their
>>>> recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>>>> "corrections". I
>>>> have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested
>>>> only very
>>>> minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
>>>> Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>>>> 480i to
>>>> 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>>>> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>>>> provided
>>>> just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D*
>>>> standard
>>>> definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D*
>>>> locals
>>>> are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>>>
>>>> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>>>> picture,
>>>> while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another
>>>> league.
>>>> The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>>>> Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks,
>>>> needs to see
>>>> these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential
>>>> for these
>>>> sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>>>> eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>>
>>>> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD
>>>> on good
>>>> transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
>>>> starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>>
>>>> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>>>> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>>>> worked
>>>> hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
>>>> Before I got
>>>> the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it
>>>> would help;
>>>> but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll
>>>> bother.
>>>> Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait
>>>> for next
>>>> year's perfect set.
>>>>
>>>> Regards to all, Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony R.
>>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the
>>>>> new Sony
>>>>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's)
>>>>> web site
>>>>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of
>>>>> the 60"
>>>>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in
>>>>> the
>>>>> store.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>>>> inputs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>>>>> price range
>>>>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>>>>> hard fan of
>>>>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>>>> The 51"
>>>>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV
>>>>>> Display
>>>>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>>>> 57" HDTV
>>>>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>>>>> this is
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.}
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI
>>>>>> input.
>>>>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>>>>> amazing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> price
>>>>>
>>>>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to
>>>>>> www.circuitcity.com and
>>>>>> type
>>>>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy Hunting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony R.
>>>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Jason Burroughs
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> quality,
>>>>>
>>>>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>>>> way that
>>>>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>>>> some math,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>>> heights).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He
>>>>>
>>>>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not
>>>>>> need to hang
>>>>>> it on the wall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>>>> DLP due
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>>>> less than
>>>>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD.
>>>>>> I'd also
>>>>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> receiver
>>>>>
>>>>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear
>>>>>> projector 42" -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 50"
>>>>>
>>>>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>>>> needed).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Dave, I'm a little confused by your math ... old = 5ms total, new = total of
5ms...can you clarify?

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Dave Hancock
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:32 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

According to an article (LCoS Shootout) in the latest issue of
"Widescreen Review" the XBR1 chip is not faster - it's just that Sony is
playing games with specs. Old chip was 5ms TOTAL (rise+fall) time, new
chip s 2.5ms rise and 2.5ms fall (total of 5 ms). Keep in mind that 5ms
is a lot better than the times that are typical of LCDs.

I envy you - enjoy!!!!

Dave Hancock

Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:

> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> 70" Qualia did not have the dynamic Iris. New ones are also faster .
> Sony claims a 2.5ms response time vice 5ms for the Qualia. Other
> primary difference is that the Qualia has a more reflective, much
> heavier, and probably better screen.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hancock"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Actualy your set is the "next generation" Qualia. By that I mean, it
>> is similar but uses a next generation SXRD chip, that is smaller
>> (lower cost to produce) and, from the reviews, has better blacks.
>> Not sure if the Qualia 70" had the auto iris feature.
>>
>> Dave Hancock
>>
>> Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are
>>> 70" and currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
>>>> purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp)
>>>> correct?
>>>> Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55"
>>>> model that
>>>> this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
>>>> According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
>>>> Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near
>>>> them with
>>>> a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I
>>>> won't go near
>>>> any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
>>>> native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector
>>>> on the
>>>> next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really
>>>> great
>>>> things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh
>>>> that one
>>>> out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm
>>>> using as a
>>>> theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black
>>>> levels as
>>>> I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
>>>> technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>>>>
>>>> Anthony R.
>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Richard and Carrie Bray
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding
>>>> the new
>>>> Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add
>>>> my direct
>>>> observations.
>>>>
>>>> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>>>> technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
>>>> Vision to
>>>> provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent
>>>> picture, many
>>>> thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and
>>>> Lumagen to get
>>>> it to that point.
>>>>
>>>> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>>>> the set
>>>> off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>>>> (their
>>>> recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>>>> "corrections". I
>>>> have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested
>>>> only very
>>>> minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
>>>> Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>>>> 480i to
>>>> 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>>>> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>>>> provided
>>>> just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D*
>>>> standard
>>>> definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D*
>>>> locals
>>>> are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>>>
>>>> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>>>> picture,
>>>> while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another
>>>> league.
>>>> The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>>>> Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks,
>>>> needs to see
>>>> these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential
>>>> for these
>>>> sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>>>> eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>>
>>>> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD
>>>> on good
>>>> transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
>>>> starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>>
>>>> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>>>> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>>>> worked
>>>> hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
>>>> Before I got
>>>> the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it
>>>> would help;
>>>> but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll
>>>> bother.
>>>> Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait
>>>> for next
>>>> year's perfect set.
>>>>
>>>> Regards to all, Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony R.
>>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the
>>>>> new Sony
>>>>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's)
>>>>> web site
>>>>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of
>>>>> the 60"
>>>>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in
>>>>> the
>>>>> store.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>>>> inputs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>>>>> price range
>>>>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>>>>> hard fan of
>>>>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>>>> The 51"
>>>>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV
>>>>>> Display
>>>>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>>>> 57" HDTV
>>>>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>>>>> this is
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.}
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI
>>>>>> input.
>>>>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>>>>> amazing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> price
>>>>>
>>>>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to
>>>>>> www.circuitcity.com and
>>>>>> type
>>>>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy Hunting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony R.
>>>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Jason Burroughs
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> quality,
>>>>>
>>>>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>>>> way that
>>>>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>>>> some math,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>>> heights).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He
>>>>>
>>>>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not
>>>>>> need to hang
>>>>>> it on the wall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>>>> DLP due
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>>>> less than
>>>>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD.
>>>>>> I'd also
>>>>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> receiver
>>>>>
>>>>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear
>>>>>> projector 42" -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 50"
>>>>>
>>>>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>>>> needed).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Jason,

Check out the Widescreen Review article I referenced. It points out:

> "Sony's Qualia SXRD panels specify the total time, 5ms, for the
> Response Time specification, but the latest XBR SCRD panels use the
> average, 2.5ms, for the Response Time, so they appear to be twice as
> fast, when they're not."

The article goes on to list 2.5ms rise time and 2.5ms fall time and a
total of 5ms response time.

(2.5ms+2.5ms = 5.0ms) I think the math's OK

Dave

Jason Burroughs wrote:

>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>Dave, I'm a little confused by your math ... old = 5ms total, new = total of
>5ms...can you clarify?
>
>Jason
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>Dave Hancock
>Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:32 AM
>To: HDTV Magazine
>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>According to an article (LCoS Shootout) in the latest issue of
>"Widescreen Review" the XBR1 chip is not faster - it's just that Sony is
>playing games with specs. Old chip was 5ms TOTAL (rise+fall) time, new
>chip s 2.5ms rise and 2.5ms fall (total of 5 ms). Keep in mind that 5ms
>is a lot better than the times that are typical of LCDs.
>
>I envy you - enjoy!!!!
>
>Dave Hancock
>
>Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>70" Qualia did not have the dynamic Iris. New ones are also faster .
>>Sony claims a 2.5ms response time vice 5ms for the Qualia. Other
>>primary difference is that the Qualia has a more reflective, much
>>heavier, and probably better screen.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hancock"
>><[email protected]>
>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:30 PM
>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Actualy your set is the "next generation" Qualia. By that I mean, it
>>>is similar but uses a next generation SXRD chip, that is smaller
>>>(lower cost to produce) and, from the reviews, has better blacks.
>>>Not sure if the Qualia 70" had the auto iris feature.
>>>
>>>Dave Hancock
>>>
>>>Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are
>>>>70" and currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.
>>>>
>>>>Richard
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>>>><[email protected]>
>>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
>>>>>purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp)
>>>>>correct?
>>>>>Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55"
>>>>>model that
>>>>>this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
>>>>>According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
>>>>>Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near
>>>>>them with
>>>>>a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I
>>>>>won't go near
>>>>>any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
>>>>>native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector
>>>>>on the
>>>>>next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really
>>>>>great
>>>>>things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh
>>>>>that one
>>>>>out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm
>>>>>using as a
>>>>>theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black
>>>>>levels as
>>>>>I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
>>>>>technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>Richard and Carrie Bray
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding
>>>>>the new
>>>>>Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add
>>>>>my direct
>>>>>observations.
>>>>>
>>>>>It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>>>>>technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
>>>>>Vision to
>>>>>provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent
>>>>>picture, many
>>>>>thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and
>>>>>Lumagen to get
>>>>>it to that point.
>>>>>
>>>>>Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>>>>>the set
>>>>>off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>>>>>(their
>>>>>recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>>>>>"corrections". I
>>>>>have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested
>>>>>only very
>>>>>minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
>>>>>Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>>>>>480i to
>>>>>1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>>>>>surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>>>>>provided
>>>>>just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D*
>>>>>standard
>>>>>definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D*
>>>>>locals
>>>>>are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>>>>>picture,
>>>>>while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another
>>>>>league.
>>>>>The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>>>>>Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks,
>>>>>needs to see
>>>>>these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential
>>>>>for these
>>>>>sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>>>>>eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>>>
>>>>>The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD
>>>>>on good
>>>>>transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
>>>>>starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>>>>>That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>>>>>worked
>>>>>hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
>>>>>Before I got
>>>>>the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it
>>>>>would help;
>>>>>but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll
>>>>>bother.
>>>>>Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait
>>>>>for next
>>>>>year's perfect set.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards to all, Richard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
>>>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the
>>>>>>new Sony
>>>>>>50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's)
>>>>>>web site
>>>>>>and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of
>>>>>>the 60"
>>>>>>version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>>>>>inputs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jason,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>>>>>>price range
>>>>>>>and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>>>>>>hard fan of
>>>>>>>CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>>>>>The 51"
>>>>>>>Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV
>>>>>>>Display
>>>>>>>(65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>>>>>57" HDTV
>>>>>>>(57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>>>>>>this is
>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.}
>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI
>>>>>>>input.
>>>>>>>Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>>>>>>amazing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>price
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to
>>>>>>>www.circuitcity.com and
>>>>>>>type
>>>>>>>Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Happy Hunting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>Jason Burroughs
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>>Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>quality,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>>>>>way that
>>>>>>>the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>>>>>some math,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>>>>heights).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>He
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not
>>>>>>>need to hang
>>>>>>>it on the wall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>>>>>DLP due
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>>>>thinking
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>>>>>less than
>>>>>>>about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD.
>>>>>>>I'd also
>>>>>>>like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>receiver
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>>>>>upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear
>>>>>>>projector 42" -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>50"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>>>>>needed).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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I generally like Sony products, but I am less than impressed with the way
they routinely manipulate product specifications, especially when it seems
those manipulations have no other purpose than to mislead customers.

While the rise/fall response time stats are pretty esoteric, Sony has a
long-standing habit of claiming inflated display resolution, for instance
claiming "6-million-pixel resolution" by multiplying the resolution of a
single panel by three, in its three-chip LCD projector models.

No doubt other manufacturers do similar things, but Sony seems to be more
obvious and more aggressive about it than others. That seems to reflect a
fundamental lack of confidence in what they sell and a serious credibility
gap spanning the marketing and engineering departments.

The bottom line for me is I don't believe ANY claims made by Sony for ANY of
its products.

Regards,


Doug
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-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Dave Hancock
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:14
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Jason,

Check out the Widescreen Review article I referenced. It points out:

> "Sony's Qualia SXRD panels specify the total time, 5ms, for the
> Response Time specification, but the latest XBR SCRD panels use the
> average, 2.5ms, for the Response Time, so they appear to be twice as
> fast, when they're not."

The article goes on to list 2.5ms rise time and 2.5ms fall time and a
total of 5ms response time.

(2.5ms+2.5ms = 5.0ms) I think the math's OK

Dave

Jason Burroughs wrote:

>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>Dave, I'm a little confused by your math ... old = 5ms total, new = total
of
>5ms...can you clarify?
>
>Jason
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>Dave Hancock
>Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:32 AM
>To: HDTV Magazine
>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>According to an article (LCoS Shootout) in the latest issue of
>"Widescreen Review" the XBR1 chip is not faster - it's just that Sony is
>playing games with specs. Old chip was 5ms TOTAL (rise+fall) time, new
>chip s 2.5ms rise and 2.5ms fall (total of 5 ms). Keep in mind that 5ms
>is a lot better than the times that are typical of LCDs.
>
>I envy you - enjoy!!!!
>
>Dave Hancock
>
>Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>70" Qualia did not have the dynamic Iris. New ones are also faster .
>>Sony claims a 2.5ms response time vice 5ms for the Qualia. Other
>>primary difference is that the Qualia has a more reflective, much
>>heavier, and probably better screen.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hancock"
>><[email protected]>
>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:30 PM
>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>Actualy your set is the "next generation" Qualia. By that I mean, it
>>>is similar but uses a next generation SXRD chip, that is smaller
>>>(lower cost to produce) and, from the reviews, has better blacks.
>>>Not sure if the Qualia 70" had the auto iris feature.
>>>
>>>Dave Hancock
>>>
>>>Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are
>>>>70" and currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.
>>>>
>>>>Richard
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>>>><[email protected]>
>>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
>>>>>purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp)
>>>>>correct?
>>>>>Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55"
>>>>>model that
>>>>>this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
>>>>>According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
>>>>>Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near
>>>>>them with
>>>>>a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I
>>>>>won't go near
>>>>>any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
>>>>>native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector
>>>>>on the
>>>>>next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really
>>>>>great
>>>>>things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh
>>>>>that one
>>>>>out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm
>>>>>using as a
>>>>>theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black
>>>>>levels as
>>>>>I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
>>>>>technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>Richard and Carrie Bray
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding
>>>>>the new
>>>>>Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add
>>>>>my direct
>>>>>observations.
>>>>>
>>>>>It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>>>>>technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
>>>>>Vision to
>>>>>provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent
>>>>>picture, many
>>>>>thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and
>>>>>Lumagen to get
>>>>>it to that point.
>>>>>
>>>>>Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>>>>>the set
>>>>>off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>>>>>(their
>>>>>recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>>>>>"corrections". I
>>>>>have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested
>>>>>only very
>>>>>minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
>>>>>Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>>>>>480i to
>>>>>1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>>>>>surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>>>>>provided
>>>>>just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D*
>>>>>standard
>>>>>definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D*
>>>>>locals
>>>>>are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>>>>>picture,
>>>>>while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another
>>>>>league.
>>>>>The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>>>>>Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks,
>>>>>needs to see
>>>>>these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential
>>>>>for these
>>>>>sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>>>>>eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>>>
>>>>>The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD
>>>>>on good
>>>>>transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
>>>>>starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>>>>>That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>>>>>worked
>>>>>hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
>>>>>Before I got
>>>>>the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it
>>>>>would help;
>>>>>but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll
>>>>>bother.
>>>>>Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait
>>>>>for next
>>>>>year's perfect set.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards to all, Richard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
>>>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the
>>>>>>new Sony
>>>>>>50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's)
>>>>>>web site
>>>>>>and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of
>>>>>>the 60"
>>>>>>version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>>>>>inputs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jason,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>>>>>>price range
>>>>>>>and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>>>>>>hard fan of
>>>>>>>CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>>>>>The 51"
>>>>>>>Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV
>>>>>>>Display
>>>>>>>(65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>>>>>57" HDTV
>>>>>>>(57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>>>>>>this is
>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.}
>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI
>>>>>>>input.
>>>>>>>Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>>>>>>amazing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>price
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to
>>>>>>>www.circuitcity.com and
>>>>>>>type
>>>>>>>Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Happy Hunting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>Jason Burroughs
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>>Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>quality,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>>>>>way that
>>>>>>>the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>>>>>some math,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>>>>heights).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>He
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not
>>>>>>>need to hang
>>>>>>>it on the wall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>>>>>DLP due
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>>>>thinking
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>>>>>less than
>>>>>>>about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD.
>>>>>>>I'd also
>>>>>>>like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>receiver
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>>>>>upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear
>>>>>>>projector 42" -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>50"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>>>>>needed).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To unsubscribe please click: [email protected]
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Each panel has 2 million pixels. There are 3 panels(Red, Blue, Green) so
that is 6 million pixels.
But I still like my calibrated 1080P DLP set.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Weil" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I generally like Sony products, but I am less than impressed with the way
> they routinely manipulate product specifications, especially when it seems
> those manipulations have no other purpose than to mislead customers.
>
> While the rise/fall response time stats are pretty esoteric, Sony has a
> long-standing habit of claiming inflated display resolution, for instance
> claiming "6-million-pixel resolution" by multiplying the resolution of a
> single panel by three, in its three-chip LCD projector models.
>
> No doubt other manufacturers do similar things, but Sony seems to be more
> obvious and more aggressive about it than others. That seems to reflect a
> fundamental lack of confidence in what they sell and a serious credibility
> gap spanning the marketing and engineering departments.
>
> The bottom line for me is I don't believe ANY claims made by Sony for ANY
> of
> its products.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Doug
> Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Dave Hancock
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:14
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Jason,
>
> Check out the Widescreen Review article I referenced. It points out:
>
>> "Sony's Qualia SXRD panels specify the total time, 5ms, for the
>> Response Time specification, but the latest XBR SCRD panels use the
>> average, 2.5ms, for the Response Time, so they appear to be twice as
>> fast, when they're not."
>
> The article goes on to list 2.5ms rise time and 2.5ms fall time and a
> total of 5ms response time.
>
> (2.5ms+2.5ms = 5.0ms) I think the math's OK
>
> Dave
>
> Jason Burroughs wrote:
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Dave, I'm a little confused by your math ... old = 5ms total, new = total
> of
>>5ms...can you clarify?
>>
>>Jason
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>Dave Hancock
>>Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:32 AM
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>According to an article (LCoS Shootout) in the latest issue of
>>"Widescreen Review" the XBR1 chip is not faster - it's just that Sony is
>>playing games with specs. Old chip was 5ms TOTAL (rise+fall) time, new
>>chip s 2.5ms rise and 2.5ms fall (total of 5 ms). Keep in mind that 5ms
>>is a lot better than the times that are typical of LCDs.
>>
>>I envy you - enjoy!!!!
>>
>>Dave Hancock
>>
>>Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>70" Qualia did not have the dynamic Iris. New ones are also faster .
>>>Sony claims a 2.5ms response time vice 5ms for the Qualia. Other
>>>primary difference is that the Qualia has a more reflective, much
>>>heavier, and probably better screen.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hancock"
>>><[email protected]>
>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:30 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Actualy your set is the "next generation" Qualia. By that I mean, it
>>>>is similar but uses a next generation SXRD chip, that is smaller
>>>>(lower cost to produce) and, from the reviews, has better blacks.
>>>>Not sure if the Qualia 70" had the auto iris feature.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>
>>>>Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are
>>>>>70" and currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.
>>>>>
>>>>>Richard
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>>>>><[email protected]>
>>>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
>>>>>>purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp)
>>>>>>correct?
>>>>>>Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55"
>>>>>>model that
>>>>>>this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
>>>>>>According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
>>>>>>Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near
>>>>>>them with
>>>>>>a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I
>>>>>>won't go near
>>>>>>any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
>>>>>>native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector
>>>>>>on the
>>>>>>next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really
>>>>>>great
>>>>>>things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh
>>>>>>that one
>>>>>>out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm
>>>>>>using as a
>>>>>>theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black
>>>>>>levels as
>>>>>>I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
>>>>>>technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>Richard and Carrie Bray
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding
>>>>>>the new
>>>>>>Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add
>>>>>>my direct
>>>>>>observations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>>>>>>technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
>>>>>>Vision to
>>>>>>provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent
>>>>>>picture, many
>>>>>>thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and
>>>>>>Lumagen to get
>>>>>>it to that point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>>>>>>the set
>>>>>>off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>>>>>>(their
>>>>>>recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>>>>>>"corrections". I
>>>>>>have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested
>>>>>>only very
>>>>>>minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
>>>>>>Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>>>>>>480i to
>>>>>>1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>>>>>>surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>>>>>>provided
>>>>>>just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D*
>>>>>>standard
>>>>>>definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D*
>>>>>>locals
>>>>>>are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>>>>>>picture,
>>>>>>while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another
>>>>>>league.
>>>>>>The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>>>>>>Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks,
>>>>>>needs to see
>>>>>>these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential
>>>>>>for these
>>>>>>sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>>>>>>eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD
>>>>>>on good
>>>>>>transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
>>>>>>starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>>>>>>That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>>>>>>worked
>>>>>>hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
>>>>>>Before I got
>>>>>>the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it
>>>>>>would help;
>>>>>>but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll
>>>>>>bother.
>>>>>>Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait
>>>>>>for next
>>>>>>year's perfect set.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards to all, Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the
>>>>>>>new Sony
>>>>>>>50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's)
>>>>>>>web site
>>>>>>>and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of
>>>>>>>the 60"
>>>>>>>version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>store.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>>>>>>inputs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jason,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>>>>>>>price range
>>>>>>>>and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>>>>>>>hard fan of
>>>>>>>>CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>>>>>>The 51"
>>>>>>>>Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV
>>>>>>>>Display
>>>>>>>>(65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>>>>>>57" HDTV
>>>>>>>>(57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>>>>>>>this is
>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.}
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI
>>>>>>>>input.
>>>>>>>>Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>>>>>>>amazing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>price
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to
>>>>>>>>www.circuitcity.com and
>>>>>>>>type
>>>>>>>>Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Happy Hunting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>Jason Burroughs
>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>>>Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>quality,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>>>>>>way that
>>>>>>>>the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>>>>>>some math,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>>>>>heights).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not
>>>>>>>>need to hang
>>>>>>>>it on the wall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>>>>>>DLP due
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>>>>>thinking
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>>>>>>less than
>>>>>>>>about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD.
>>>>>>>>I'd also
>>>>>>>>like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>receiver
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>>>>>>upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear
>>>>>>>>projector 42" -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>50"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>>>>>>needed).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Yes, 6 million pixels, but NOT "6 million-pixel resolution."

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-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Aaron W. Thompson
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 17:48
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs

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Each panel has 2 million pixels. There are 3 panels(Red, Blue, Green) so
that is 6 million pixels.
But I still like my calibrated 1080P DLP set.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs


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>
> I generally like Sony products, but I am less than impressed with the way
> they routinely manipulate product specifications, especially when it seems
> those manipulations have no other purpose than to mislead customers.
>
> While the rise/fall response time stats are pretty esoteric, Sony has a
> long-standing habit of claiming inflated display resolution, for instance
> claiming "6-million-pixel resolution" by multiplying the resolution of a
> single panel by three, in its three-chip LCD projector models.
>
> No doubt other manufacturers do similar things, but Sony seems to be more
> obvious and more aggressive about it than others. That seems to reflect a
> fundamental lack of confidence in what they sell and a serious credibility
> gap spanning the marketing and engineering departments.
>
> The bottom line for me is I don't believe ANY claims made by Sony for ANY
> of
> its products.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Doug
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Dave Hancock
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:14
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Jason,
>
> Check out the Widescreen Review article I referenced. It points out:
>
>> "Sony's Qualia SXRD panels specify the total time, 5ms, for the
>> Response Time specification, but the latest XBR SCRD panels use the
>> average, 2.5ms, for the Response Time, so they appear to be twice as
>> fast, when they're not."
>
> The article goes on to list 2.5ms rise time and 2.5ms fall time and a
> total of 5ms response time.
>
> (2.5ms+2.5ms = 5.0ms) I think the math's OK
>
> Dave
>
> Jason Burroughs wrote:
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>Dave, I'm a little confused by your math ... old = 5ms total, new = total
> of
>>5ms...can you clarify?
>>
>>Jason
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>Dave Hancock
>>Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:32 AM
>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>According to an article (LCoS Shootout) in the latest issue of
>>"Widescreen Review" the XBR1 chip is not faster - it's just that Sony is
>>playing games with specs. Old chip was 5ms TOTAL (rise+fall) time, new
>>chip s 2.5ms rise and 2.5ms fall (total of 5 ms). Keep in mind that 5ms
>>is a lot better than the times that are typical of LCDs.
>>
>>I envy you - enjoy!!!!
>>
>>Dave Hancock
>>
>>Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>70" Qualia did not have the dynamic Iris. New ones are also faster .
>>>Sony claims a 2.5ms response time vice 5ms for the Qualia. Other
>>>primary difference is that the Qualia has a more reflective, much
>>>heavier, and probably better screen.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hancock"
>>><[email protected]>
>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:30 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>>Actualy your set is the "next generation" Qualia. By that I mean, it
>>>>is similar but uses a next generation SXRD chip, that is smaller
>>>>(lower cost to produce) and, from the reviews, has better blacks.
>>>>Not sure if the Qualia 70" had the auto iris feature.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>
>>>>Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony, I had the MIts 55809. My Sony is not the Qualia (they are
>>>>>70" and currently still above $10k). My Sony is the KDS-R60XBR1.
>>>>>
>>>>>Richard
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>>>>><[email protected]>
>>>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:20 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Glad to hear from someone who is completely satisfied with what they
>>>>>>purchased. The 60" XRD you were referring to was the Qualia (sp)
>>>>>>correct?
>>>>>>Just out of pure curiosity, what line of Mitsubishi was your 55"
>>>>>>model that
>>>>>>this replaced? Don't think I'm going to defend Mits, far from it.
>>>>>>According to things I've heard recently about all of their sets from
>>>>>>Diamonds down and from CRT RP to the new DLP's I wouldn't get near
>>>>>>them with
>>>>>>a ten foot pole. I'm with the other gentleman though, until I
>>>>>>won't go near
>>>>>>any of these new sets until I find one that accepts and displays 1080P
>>>>>>native. Quite frankly, I'm considering going to a front projector
>>>>>>on the
>>>>>>next go round with some kind of Stewart screen. I've heard really
>>>>>>great
>>>>>>things from CEDIA about the Sony Ruby. I will really have to weigh
>>>>>>that one
>>>>>>out as it will require a little reconfiguration of the room I'm
>>>>>>using as a
>>>>>>theater. I'm encouraged though by your statements regarding black
>>>>>>levels as
>>>>>>I've heard the same thing regarding the Ruby. I'm not locked into old
>>>>>>technology just for the sake of being a curmudgeon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>Richard and Carrie Bray
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:19 PM
>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>Subject: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding
>>>>>>the new
>>>>>>Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add
>>>>>>my direct
>>>>>>observations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
>>>>>>technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
>>>>>>Vision to
>>>>>>provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent
>>>>>>picture, many
>>>>>>thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and
>>>>>>Lumagen to get
>>>>>>it to that point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>>>>>>the set
>>>>>>off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
>>>>>>(their
>>>>>>recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
>>>>>>"corrections". I
>>>>>>have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required suggested
>>>>>>only very
>>>>>>minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per Avia was "right on".
>>>>>>Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>>>>>>480i to
>>>>>>1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
>>>>>>surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
>>>>>>provided
>>>>>>just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D*
>>>>>>standard
>>>>>>definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The D*
>>>>>>locals
>>>>>>are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>>>>>>picture,
>>>>>>while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another
>>>>>>league.
>>>>>>The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
>>>>>>Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks,
>>>>>>needs to see
>>>>>>these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential
>>>>>>for these
>>>>>>sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the
>>>>>>eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD
>>>>>>on good
>>>>>>transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the bit
>>>>>>starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>>>>>>That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>>>>>>worked
>>>>>>hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
>>>>>>Before I got
>>>>>>the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I presume it
>>>>>>would help;
>>>>>>but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I don't think I'll
>>>>>>bother.
>>>>>>Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait
>>>>>>for next
>>>>>>year's perfect set.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards to all, Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the
>>>>>>>new Sony
>>>>>>>50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's)
>>>>>>>web site
>>>>>>>and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of
>>>>>>>the 60"
>>>>>>>version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>store.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>>>>>>inputs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dave Hancock
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jason,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>>>>>>>price range
>>>>>>>>and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>>>>>>>hard fan of
>>>>>>>>CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>>>>>>The 51"
>>>>>>>>Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV
>>>>>>>>Display
>>>>>>>>(65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>>>>>>57" HDTV
>>>>>>>>(57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>>>>>>>this is
>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.}
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI
>>>>>>>>input.
>>>>>>>>Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>>>>>>>amazing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>price
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to
>>>>>>>>www.circuitcity.com and
>>>>>>>>type
>>>>>>>>Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Happy Hunting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Anthony R.
>>>>>>>>Orlando, FL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>Jason Burroughs
>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>>>>>To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>>>>>Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>quality,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>>>>>>way that
>>>>>>>>the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>>>>>>some math,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>>>>>heights).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not
>>>>>>>>need to hang
>>>>>>>>it on the wall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>>>>>>DLP due
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>>>>>thinking
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>>>>>>less than
>>>>>>>>about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD.
>>>>>>>>I'd also
>>>>>>>>like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>receiver
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>>>>>>upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear
>>>>>>>>projector 42" -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>50"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>>>>>>needed).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert 480i
> to 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
> provided just as good, and a little sharper standard definition.

Yup. As VCRs and SD camcorders go on the way side and internal scaling
of receivers improve there are now a number of ways to tackle SD
programming without buying an external scaler.

My Samsung fairs quite well with SD using my Panny DVD recorder set at
480P. This is a very inexpensive scaling solution with a number of
benefits a scaler can't provide. That said there is one hitch; no way to
fill out letterboxed SD programming. Same problem with the Oppo DVD
player. Fortunately there is little of that...

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the new
> Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add my
> direct observations.
>
> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by a
> technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen Vision to
> provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an excellent picture,
> many thought the best HD they had seen. But, it took the ISF and
> Lumagen to get it to that point.
>
> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take the
> set off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony "dots"
> (their recommended positions), and turn off the many controls for
> "corrections". I have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they required
> suggested only very minor changes for brightness. Color decoder per
> Avia was "right on". Geometry and convergence screens show no problems.
>
> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert 480i
> to 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was pleasantly
> surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to the Sony,
> provided just as good, and a little sharper standard definition. The D*
> standard definition channels like Fox News and HGTV look very good. The
> D* locals are very watchable; although better from my antenna.
>
> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright picture,
> while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in another league.
> The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen to be believed.
> Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide great blacks, needs to
> see these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman shows the true potential for
> these sets if given a good feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from
> the eventual Blu Ray will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>
> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on
> good transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of the
> bit starved HBO movies on D*.
>
> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
> worked hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was good.
> Before I got the Sony home, I fully expected to have it ISFed. I
> presume it would help; but at the moment I'm so totally satisfied that I
> don't think I'll bother. Plus, every day that I watch this set; I'm glad
> that I didn't wait for next year's perfect set.
>
> Regards to all, Richard
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>
>> Anthony R.
>> Orlando, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>> Dave Hancock
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new Sony
>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web site
>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
>> store.
>>
>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>> inputs.
>>
>> Dave Hancock
>>
>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price
>>> range
>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard
>>> fan of
>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work. The 51"
>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi 57"
>>> HDTV
>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this
>>> is more
>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
>>
>> price
>>
>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com
>>> and type
>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>
>>> Happy Hunting
>>>
>>> Anthony R.
>>> Orlando, FL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
>>> Jason Burroughs
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>
>> quality,
>>
>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a way
>>> that
>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing some
>>> math,
>>
>> I
>>
>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>> heights).
>>
>> He
>>
>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need to
>>> hang
>>> it on the wall.
>>>
>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from DLP
>>>> due to
>>>
>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>> thinking of
>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything less
>>> than
>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd also
>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>
>> receiver
>>
>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>
>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector 42" -
>>
>> 50"
>>
>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>> needed).
>>>
>>>
>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
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Steve,

> Then there is the dynamic iris "feature" which again makes me cringe.

My unerstanding is it can be turned off or on besides dynamic. The ON is
great for dark rooms!

> I can't stand the way a magazine will point out what to me is a glaring
> defect and then make it sound like the inaccuracy doesn't matter or in
> this case is "pleasing". Have you ever seen Day-Glo fungus on a tree?

IT is disgusting isn't it! ARGH!

Richard Fisher
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Steve Martin wrote:
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>
> My concern with the Sony SXRD's (if Widescreen Review is correct) is
> the extremely off standard green primary.
>
> My Samsung HL-P5063 had a similar issue (although not as bad as the
> Sony if the WR colorimetry graph is to be trusted) but fortunately the
> primary and secondary colors can be calibrated on that set.
>
> The result is "neon" looking oversaturated greens and to some extent
> yellows.
>
> The Widescreen Review said the following...
>
> "Colorimetry was exceptionally accurate for both digital and analog,
> 1080i, and 480p; the exception was green, which was very saturated.
> Although not accurate, this saturated green had a pleasing effect. ...
> Green fungus on the trees was almost Day-Glo!".
>
> I can't stand the way a magazine will point out what to me is a glaring
> defect and then make it sound like the inaccuracy doesn't matter or in
> this case is "pleasing". Have you ever seen Day-Glo fungus on a tree?
>
> Then there is the dynamic iris "feature" which again makes me cringe.
> Hopefully there is some way in the service mode to disable it so that
> black and white levels won't be dynamic.
>
> The bottom line is that every TV these days has some flaw or another.
> You have to choose your poison, unfortunately.
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the
>> new Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to add
>> my direct observations.
>>
>> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by
>> a technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
>> Vision to provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an
>> excellent picture, many thought the best HD they had seen. But, it
>> took the ISF and Lumagen to get it to that point.
>>
>> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>> the set off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony
>> "dots" (their recommended positions), and turn off the many controls
>> for "corrections". I have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they
>> required suggested only very minor changes for brightness. Color
>> decoder per Avia was "right on". Geometry and convergence screens
>> show no problems.
>>
>> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>> 480i to 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was
>> pleasantly surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to
>> the Sony, provided just as good, and a little sharper standard
>> definition. The D* standard definition channels like Fox News and
>> HGTV look very good. The D* locals are very watchable; although
>> better from my antenna.
>>
>> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>> picture, while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in
>> another league. The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be seen
>> to be believed. Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs provide
>> great blacks, needs to see these sets. Watching Leno or Letterman
>> shows the true potential for these sets if given a good feed. I'm
>> convinced that a 1080i feed from the eventual Blu Ray will not leave
>> me wanting a 1080P input.
>>
>> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD on
>> good transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some of
>> the bit starved HBO movies on D*.
>>
>> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the "greatest".
>> That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my Mitsubishi; and
>> worked hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to where it was
>> good. Before I got the Sony home, I fully expected to have it
>> ISFed. I presume it would help; but at the moment I'm so totally
>> satisfied that I don't think I'll bother. Plus, every day that I
>> watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait for next year's perfect set.
>>
>> Regards to all, Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>
>>> Anthony R.
>>> Orlando, FL
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Dave Hancock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new
>>> Sony
>>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web
>>> site
>>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the 60"
>>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
>>> store.
>>>
>>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>> inputs.
>>>
>>> Dave Hancock
>>>
>>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>
>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his price
>>>> range
>>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die hard
>>>> fan of
>>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>> The 51"
>>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>> 57" HDTV
>>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know this
>>>> is more
>>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an amazing
>>>>
>>> price
>>>
>>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com
>>>> and type
>>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Hunting
>>>>
>>>> Anthony R.
>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Jason Burroughs
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>
>>> quality,
>>>
>>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>> way that
>>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>> some math,
>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>> heights).
>>>>
>>> He
>>>
>>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need
>>>> to hang
>>>> it on the wall.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>> DLP due to
>>>>>
>>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>> thinking of
>>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>> less than
>>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD. I'd
>>>> also
>>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>
>>> receiver
>>>
>>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>
>>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector
>>>> 42" -
>>>>
>>> 50"
>>>
>>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>> needed).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> The dynamic Iris can be set via the user controls to "off", "low",
> "medium", or "high". I have my standard iris set at "2" out of 4 and
> the dynamic Iris set at "low".

I'm bummed... the FPTV version had an ON setting...

Richard Fisher
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Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
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>
> Regarding Steve's Question.
>
> I haven't previously noticed problems with the greens. Unfortunately,
> now that you mention it, I'll probably be fixated on the issue. If I do
> notice a problem; would it be addressable via ISF?
>
> The dynamic Iris can be set via the user controls to "off", "low",
> "medium", or "high". I have my standard iris set at "2" out of 4 and
> the dynamic Iris set at "low". I've never noticed when the dynamic Iris
> changes; but I've read on the AVS users forum for the set that if it is
> on "high" it can become a distraction. Sony first used this dynamic
> Iris on the Qualia 004 front projector.
>
> Richard
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Martin" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Sony 50"/60" SXRDs
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> My concern with the Sony SXRD's (if Widescreen Review is correct) is
>> the extremely off standard green primary.
>>
>> My Samsung HL-P5063 had a similar issue (although not as bad as the
>> Sony if the WR colorimetry graph is to be trusted) but fortunately
>> the primary and secondary colors can be calibrated on that set.
>>
>> The result is "neon" looking oversaturated greens and to some extent
>> yellows.
>>
>> The Widescreen Review said the following...
>>
>> "Colorimetry was exceptionally accurate for both digital and analog,
>> 1080i, and 480p; the exception was green, which was very saturated.
>> Although not accurate, this saturated green had a pleasing effect.
>> ... Green fungus on the trees was almost Day-Glo!".
>>
>> I can't stand the way a magazine will point out what to me is a
>> glaring defect and then make it sound like the inaccuracy doesn't
>> matter or in this case is "pleasing". Have you ever seen Day-Glo
>> fungus on a tree?
>>
>> Then there is the dynamic iris "feature" which again makes me cringe.
>> Hopefully there is some way in the service mode to disable it so that
>> black and white levels won't be dynamic.
>>
>> The bottom line is that every TV these days has some flaw or another.
>> You have to choose your poison, unfortunately.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Richard and Carrie Bray wrote:
>>
>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>> We've had several comments over the last couple months regarding the
>>> new Sony SXRDs. I received my 60" SXRD 10 days ago and wanted to
>>> add my direct observations.
>>>
>>> It replaced my 4 yr. old 55" Mitsubishi RPTV that had been ISF'ed by
>>> a technician I've seen Richard recommend. I also used a Lumagen
>>> Vision to provide acceptable SD. It had what I considered an
>>> excellent picture, many thought the best HD they had seen. But, it
>>> took the ISF and Lumagen to get it to that point.
>>>
>>> Out of the box, the Sony "blew it away". All I had to do was take
>>> the set off "vivid", set it on "pro", set user controls on the Sony
>>> "dots" (their recommended positions), and turn off the many controls
>>> for "corrections". I have subsequently used Avia and DVE but they
>>> required suggested only very minor changes for brightness. Color
>>> decoder per Avia was "right on". Geometry and convergence screens
>>> show no problems.
>>>
>>> I thought that I might still want to use the Lumagen to upconvert
>>> 480i to 1080i for feeding standard definition to the Sony. I was
>>> pleasantly surprised to discover that my HD Tivo via HDMI, direct to
>>> the Sony, provided just as good, and a little sharper standard
>>> definition. The D* standard definition channels like Fox News and
>>> HGTV look very good. The D* locals are very watchable; although
>>> better from my antenna.
>>>
>>> I can't imagine how OTA HD could look better. The very bright
>>> picture, while retaining great blacks and color, is definitely in
>>> another league. The blacks and shadow detail on this set must be
>>> seen to be believed. Anyone who still maintains that only CRTs
>>> provide great blacks, needs to see these sets. Watching Leno or
>>> Letterman shows the true potential for these sets if given a good
>>> feed. I'm convinced that a 1080i feed from the eventual Blu Ray
>>> will not leave me wanting a 1080P input.
>>>
>>> The video via HDMI from my upconverting Denon almost looks like HD
>>> on good transfers. In fact I sometimes think it is as good as some
>>> of the bit starved HBO movies on D*.
>>>
>>> I don't always think that what I spend my money on is the
>>> "greatest". That's why I wasn't happy when I first received my
>>> Mitsubishi; and worked hard, and invested quite a bit to get it to
>>> where it was good. Before I got the Sony home, I fully expected to
>>> have it ISFed. I presume it would help; but at the moment I'm so
>>> totally satisfied that I don't think I'll bother. Plus, every day
>>> that I watch this set; I'm glad that I didn't wait for next year's
>>> perfect set.
>>>
>>> Regards to all, Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Rizzuto"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> That is a little pricy in my book for a 50" set but to each his own.
>>>>
>>>> Anthony R.
>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM
>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>> Subject: Re: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>
>>>> I stopped by my local Circuit City store today and they had the new
>>>> Sony
>>>> 50" SXRD (R50XBR1) 1080p set for $3499! I checked their (CC's) web
>>>> site
>>>> and they had the same set listed for $3999. The two reviews of the
>>>> 60"
>>>> version have been great! The set I saw was absolutely the best in the
>>>> store.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, like the other 1080p sets, this one will not take 1080p
>>>> inputs.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Hancock
>>>>
>>>> Anthony Rizzuto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>> I still think the Aspect line from Hitachi would work for his
>>>>> price range
>>>>> and for image quality. I'm prejudiced in so far as I am a die
>>>>> hard fan of
>>>>> CRT RP. Also something in the regular Hitachi line would work.
>>>>> The 51"
>>>>> Aspect is 1,199.99 Model(51M200), Aspect by Hitachi 65" HDTV Display
>>>>> (65M200) 1,899.99, Hitachi 51" HDTV (51F710S) 1,614.00, Hitachi
>>>>> 57" HDTV
>>>>> (57F710S) 1,709.00 with cable card and built in tuner (I know
>>>>> this is more
>>>>> than what you want for him but thought I'd throw it in the mix.} The
>>>>> downside on these is that the only have either on HDMI, or DVI input.
>>>>> Beautiful blacks and a very sharp bright picture though and an
>>>>> amazing
>>>>>
>>>> price
>>>>
>>>>> point as well. All models listed available from Circuit City, not the
>>>>> internet vendor Du Jour. To see details go to www.circuitcity.com
>>>>> and type
>>>>> Hitachi televisions in the search bar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Hunting
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony R.
>>>>> Orlando, FL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HDTV Magazine On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Jason Burroughs
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:51 PM
>>>>> To: HDTV Magazine
>>>>> Subject: seeking 40-50" HDTV advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>>>
>>>>> A friend of mine, who is not very discerning when it comes to video
>>>>>
>>>> quality,
>>>>
>>>>> is looking for his first 'big' TV. His room is laid out in such a
>>>>> way that
>>>>> the TV will be about 8 feet from the sitting position, so doing
>>>>> some math,
>>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>> come up with 42" - 50" as his best size choices (3 to 4 picture
>>>>> heights).
>>>>>
>>>> He
>>>>
>>>>> would like to spend $1500 to $2000 out the door, and does not need
>>>>> to hang
>>>>> it on the wall.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From the reading I've done, I feel that I should stay away from
>>>>>> DLP due to
>>>>>>
>>>>> screen door, lcd due to quality, and plasma due to burn in. I'm
>>>>> thinking of
>>>>> steering him toward JVC D-ILA, but I can't seem to find anything
>>>>> less than
>>>>> about $3500. the next best thing seems to be 3-chip DLP or LCD.
>>>>> I'd also
>>>>> like one with 2 digital inputs since he isn't likely to be buying a
>>>>>
>>>> receiver
>>>>
>>>>> and surround sound setup soon. So it will be a simple system with an
>>>>> upscaling dvd player and maybe hd cable or satellite for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> To summarize, I'm looking for a flat panel or thing rear projector
>>>>> 42" -
>>>>>
>>>> 50"
>>>>
>>>>> HDTV, no tuner required, 1280x720 or greater resolution (1080p not
>>>>> needed).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advice is appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>
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