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I agree with Hugh and Miller that this unique group shares some great
exchanges. I appreciate getting the insight that guys like Rodolfo and
Richard and others can impart!
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
Behalf Of Hugh Campbell
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:53 AM
To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
Subject: Re: Sony VPL-VW60
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I agree it would be a bad idea to disband the tips list.
Hugh
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From: "Miller Nichols" <
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To: "HDTV Magazine Tips List" <
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Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: Sony VPL-VW60
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Does that mean we are disbanding this list? Will no one from HDTV
> Magazine be answering questions here any longer because of this Dell
> thing?
>
> I have come to value your responses here over the years Rodolfo, and
> it would be a shame for you to stop participating just because one can
> ask the questions somewhere else.
>
> Besides, how many hundreds of questions will they be getting, and how
> many do you think they'll answer directly? Not much chance of getting
> our questions answered there like we can here.
>
> - Miller
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Rodolfo La Maestra
> <
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>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> I realized that this is a good question for the "ask the experts" program
>> Dell has implemented with our HDTV Magazine:
>>
>>
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/news/2008/0 ... zine_to_as
>> sist_in_educating_consumers.php
>>
>> Announced as "respected HDTV pioneers Dale Cripps and Shane Sturgeon will
>> answer consumers' questions about home theater and high definition
>> technology, from the most commonly asked to the most difficult to
>> answer."
>>
>> Congratulations on the news of your soon to arrive boy Jason.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Rodolfo La Maestra
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine Tips List On
>> Behalf Of Jason Burroughs
>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:34 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> Subject: Re: Sony VPL-VW60
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> For the 2:35:1 amateurs like me - I'm considering replacing my TV with a
>> front projector some time this year. If I get a 16x9 screen, I'm
>> assuming I still watch 2.35:1 content, but with bars on the top. How
>> much "better" does it look when using the panamorph lens than without?
>>
>> Also, some basic front projector questions:
>> The room that I would put it in has a lot of daytime light that is not
>> easily controlled.
>> I work from home and we are having a boy in September. I expect to watch
>> TV, movies, etc throughout the day as much as at night. Are modern
>> projectors still as sensitive to light as they traditionally have been?
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> Rodolfo La Maestra wrote:
>> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >
>> > Michael,
>> >
>> > This is good news than you have chosen that combination, and not the
>> > Sony
>> > 60.
>> >
>> > I have seen the 60 with anamorphic lenses and about that large size of
>> > 2.35:1 screen, and the image did not pop out of the screen as bright
>> > and
>> > contrasted as the RS2 did, but there were prototypes.
>> >
>> > I have seen then again separately but it is almost impossible to find
>> > any
>> > A/V place in the area that have such 2.35:1 anamorphic installation,
>> because
>> > most people do not want to pay that much on top of the price of the
>> > projector, especially for something many do not understand.
>> >
>> > I hope this works for you, these were the same two choices I would have
>> made
>> > now (the RS2 was not available in Nov 06 when I selected the Optoma 81,
>> and
>> > the RS1 did not have vertical stretch for the anamorphic horizontal
>> > expansion to work).
>> >
>> > Your comment "This theater, at bottom, is designed for viewing a film
>> > the
>> > way the
>> > cinematographer, sound editor and director intended that it be seen,
>> > and
>> is
>> > not for show....thus, "decoration" will be minimal."
>> >
>> > Let me comment on that many film lovers like the Sony 50 or 60 light
>> output
>> > because the image gives you that feeling, but I rather be able to
>> > increase
>> > the lumens when necessary.
>> >
>> > Sounds like a good lab, my type of HT; most people go the other way
>> > around
>> > and think on the popcorn machine at the same time they are choosing the
>> > projector.
>> >
>> > I did not see what Robert recommended but knowing him, he must have
>> > chosen
>> > the RS2 as well.
>> >
>> > Please do not forget to send me or Shane the photos and description of
>> > equipment (and wiring) when finished, so I can mention your
>> > implementation
>> > on a future article of CinemaScope.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Rodolfo
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Michael M. Malkin
>> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:33 AM
>> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > Subject: Re: Sony VPL-VW60
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >
>> > Rodolfo,
>> >
>> > Again, many thanks for your helpful comments below.....I'll keep you
>> closely
>> > informed of our progress.
>> >
>> > Based in no small part on your and Robert Fowkes' responses, as well as
>> > my
>> > own research over the past few years, I'm going to go with my original
>> > choices, the JVC DLA-RS2 FP, the Panamorph 380 lens and transport
>> > system
>> and
>> > a Stewart Studio-Tec 130 135" diagonal 2.40:1 fixed screen.
>> >
>> > As you note, the Sony, while a high-performing FP, simply does not have
>> > enough light output for this size installation.
>> >
>> > The suppliers are involved in properly setting up the system through my
>> > dealer and installers.
>> >
>> > The theatre has controlled lighting and seating for five, optimized
>> visually
>> > and aurally, of course, for the warmest one.
>> >
>> > My architect and I also designed the theatre from scratch using the
>> > golden
>> > ratio, so standing waves are no problem from the get-go, and since the
>> > theatre is dedicated, it also has double walls, non-touching,
>> > insulation
>> > between, stand-off bushings, sound panels, etc. for sound design.
>> >
>> > This theater, at bottom, is designed for viewing a film the way the
>> > cinematographer, sound editor and director intended that it be seen,
>> > and
>> is
>> > not for show....thus, "decoration" will be minimal and the seating,
>> viewing
>> > and listening will be as optimal as we can design, fabricate and
>> > install.
>> >
>> > The home will be ready this summer...I'll keep you posted.
>> >
>> > Once again, warm thanks to you and to Robert for both of your
>> > thoughtful
>> and
>> > very helpful comments.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Mike Malkin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------Original Message-------
>> >
>> > From: Rodolfo La Maestra
>> > Date: 3/10/2008 9:58:00 PM
>> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > Subject: Re: Sony VPL-VW60
>> >
>> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >
>> > Michael,
>> >
>> > Responding you questions.
>> >
>> > Today, those products would be my choice for that money. Or I would
>> > choose
>> > the Sony higher end model for $15K, or a 3-chip DLP.
>> >
>> > But the return on image quality for the $ investment is not
>> > proportionally
>> > the double (or triple). Probably the same reason by which you might
>> > have
>> > decided on the under $5K Sony.
>> >
>> > Tomorrow who knows. Reason why I am changing projectors often, while
>> > keeping the Firehawk and the Panamorph lens system; until something
>> > better
>> > comes down the road for those as well, but not as soon as the
>> > projectors/scalers I suspect.
>> >
>> > Regarding Stewart, they have very reliable and well finish products not
>> just
>> >
>> > the name, and I am happy with mine. Your choice should be driven by the
>> > matching with the projector and your room light conditions.
>> >
>> > When I chose mine I was exploring the Cinecurve 2.35:1 from Stewart
>> > with 4
>> > way motorized masking, but for the size I needed paying $16,000 (at
>> > that
>> > time) was overkill, and the projector and lenses did not require a
>> > curve
>> > screen for Cinemascope purposes. I have another system for motorized
>> > lateral masks and curtains that match the width of the projected image.
>> >
>> > When I worked with Optoma and Panamorph in determining what was the
>> > best
>> > matching of the projector/lens/screen (I got my system when they were
>> > as
>> > young as prototypes other than the screen, so I was a Guinea Pig by
>> choice),
>> >
>> > they were trying several screens and anamorphic lenses at their labs
>> before
>> > deciding that was the best combination. Optoma chose Panamorph due to
>> > the
>> > perfection on the lens quality, and the screen choice of both was flat,
>> not
>> > curve. I could not afford to have that testing facility unless I order
>> > and
>> > trash a dozen screens and lenses, and the labor, etc. etc.
>> >
>> > In your case you should ask Sony, Stewart and Panamorph to guide you on
>> the
>> > best choices for that projector, and the gain.
>> >
>> > Regarding the size of your room, it seems OK to me, just make sure you
>> > do
>> > not use the 21 feet length to the limit and not do like many HT owners
>> > making it a fancy room but installing the rows of seats so far away
>> > from
>> the
>> >
>> > 2.35:1 screen that it looses its panoramic impact reducing the angle of
>> > view.
>> >
>> > Look at the THX tables for the height of your screen and 16x9 images at
>> > 1080p, trust the quality of 1080p resolution, you will not see the
>> > pixels
>> > unless you get your nose to the screen, and keep your distance as short
>> > as
>> > needed for your best seat, the one that will be warm all the time.
>> >
>> > I do not know how much 16x9 vs 2.35:1 viewing you will have, but
>> > consider
>> > that when you project 16x9 images on a 2.35:1 screen they will be
>> relatively
>> >
>> > smaller (and less wide of course) due to the constant height setup of
>> > the
>> > screen in Cinemascope anamorphic. The angle of view L/R would also be
>> > relatively smaller compared to 2.35:1 width from the same viewing
>> position,
>> > so make your calculations (and compromises) right before those seats
>> > are
>> > bolted and the carpets are cut (not to mention before ordering the
>> screen),
>> > and most certainly, when the 7.1 audio sweet spot is determined, which
>> > hopefully would be coincident with the viewing sweet spot, no standing
>> > waves, no bass loss, etc.
>> >
>> > Good luck; sounds like a good project; send us some pictures when done.
>> >
>> > I would probably do one more article in the Cinemascope series and
>> > include
>> > your setup as an actual implementation, they are growing in number, but
>> > still not too many around when the anamorphic lenses and transports
>> > exceed
>> > the price of many projectors, reason by which many decide to use just
>> > the
>> > zoom approach with no lens to get rid of the bars, but every
>> > alternative
>> has
>> >
>> > their trade offs.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Rodolfo La Maestra
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Michael M. Malkin
>> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:54 PM
>> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > Subject: Re: Sony VPL-VW60
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >
>> > I did indeed mean Panamorph, Rodolfo (I apparently had a brain freeze)
>> > and
>> > many thanks, once again, for your extremely helpful comments.
>> >
>> > I do agree with every point you make below and am still working through
>> the
>> > very issues you raise.
>> >
>> > I have looked at both of the JVC fps and was very impressed....except,
>> > frankly, with the price.
>> >
>> > I gather that if one can afford one of the JVCs, retail or pro model,
>> > that
>> > would be your choice, along with the Panamorph 380 lens and transport,
>> > for
>> a
>> >
>> > 135" Firehawk screen in a 16' by 21' dedicated HT?
>> >
>> > One last question...do you believe the Stewart fixed masking screens
>> > are
>> > worth their breathtaking prices?
>> >
>> > Thanks again,
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------Original Message-------
>> >
>> > From: Rodolfo La Maestra
>> > Date: 3/10/2008 5:39:22 PM
>> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > Subject: Re: Sony VPL-VW60
>> >
>> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >
>> > Michael,
>> >
>> > You might have meant Panamorph
http://www.panamorph.com/index.html
>> >
>> > Probably the model 380 with the lens transport
>> >
http://www.panamorph.com/ModelUH380.html.
>> >
>> > I own both pieces since 2006 and I recommend them. The transport is
>> > very
>> > professionally done, and flawless on its operation.
>> >
>> > The lens is very good quality and effective, and I see no image
>> aberrations
>> > to the point of concern considering the large image I project, you will
>> > be
>> > happy.
>> >
>> >
http://www.panamorph.com/TrueWidescreenBasics.html
>> >
>> > Since I tested the system, most projector manufacturers made
>> > partnerships
>> > with Panamorph.
>> >
>> > Make sure you take all measurements for throw, screen size, etc before
>> > you
>> > commit to a fix installation or ordering a screen size
>> >
http://www.panamorph.com/SetupBasics.html
>> >
>> > I must make you aware that by expanding the image it will loose a bit
>> > the
>> > punch, and if the projector is not bright/contrast enough you might
>> consider
>> >
>> >
>> > a smaller screen, or another projector, considering that the Sony 60
>> > after
>> > ISF could be a bit low in light output, even though is better than the
>> > 50.
>> >
>> > You should take a look at the JVC 100 or RS2`LCoS before you make the
>> > decision. Is more expensive but it will give you 2.35 vertical stretch
>> > and
>> > a stunning bright image if you are looking for BIG.
>> >
>> > I currently run the anamorphic lens with the DLP Optoma 81LV (Large
>> > Venue
>> > lumens) and a 130+ 2.35:1 screen, and the image is stunning, but the
>> > Sony
>> > does not have that high light output, especially after ISF.
>> >
>> > I initially had the Optoma 81 1080p DLP projector (on this picture
>> >
>>
http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/20 ... rt_i_-_the
>> >
>> >
>> > _concept.php), but I upgraded to the 81LV for about 1000 more lumens
>> > after
>> 6
>> >
>> >
>> > months, and knowing me I would probably change the projector again
>> > soon,
>> but
>> >
>> >
>> > the lens and transport stay all the time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Rodolfo
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Michael M. Malkin
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 3:10 PM
>> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > Subject: Re: Sony VPL-VW60
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >
>> > Thom (and the List),
>> >
>> > Did you receive any responses to your questions below about the Sony
>> > VPL-VW60?
>> >
>> > I'm designing a from-scratch HT and am strongly considering that
>> projector,
>> > along with a Panagraph anamorphic lens.
>> >
>> > Any user feedback from the TIPS list?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Mike Malkin
>> >
>> > -------Original Message-------
>> >
>> > From: Thomas B Kemp
>> > Date: 11/29/2007 5:50:43 AM
>> > To: HDTV Magazine Tips List
>> > Subject: Sony VPL-VW60
>> >
>> > ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>> >
>> > Anyone have any personal experiences with the new Sony VPL-VW60
>> > projector? I finally saw it being displayed in a good setting at the
>> > Myer-Emco store next to Montgomery mall yesterday. While I was only
>> > able to do a very quick review I was very favorably, actually
>> > surprisingly, impressed with the projector. I intend to go back in
>> > the very near future and spend a lot more time viewing different
>> > sources on it. The most impressive demo was a Blu-Ray disc being
>> > played of a rock concert. I know that the projector will process
>> > 1080/24p but I'm sure that must be via the HDMI connection. They
>> > were using a Stewart Firehawk screen. Anyone have any suggestions
>> > about another choice of screen? I got the impression that Myer-Emco
>> > will deal on the price as they have on the two other HDTVs that I
>> > have purchased from them over the years. I think that they will sell
>> > it in the $4,440 - $4,500 range. I am thinking about a screen in the
>> > 110" range. While I will have to make some significant
>> > rearrangements in my room to accommodate the projector, my one
>> > serious concern is that I only have a 7 1/2 foot ceiling in the
>> > room. I would almost rather put the projector on a table than hang
>> > it from the ceiling. Is that a bad idea? The only thing that I
>> > haven't been impressed with so far about the projector is that the
>> > lamp only has a 90 day warranty while the projector has a two year
>> > warranty. It appears that the lamp replacement cost is in the $500
>> > range.
>> >
>> > Also, Myer-Emco is now also a Denon dealer and I am also looking to
>> > upgrade my receiver from the Denon 3803 to either the 3808CI or the
>> > 4308CI both of which have HDMI 1.3 switching, lossless Dolby and DTS
>> > audio and deep color. While I think that those capabilities are
>> > essential in a new receiver, I'm not aware that there is hardly any
>> > source material available at that level, certainly not broadcast
>> > material. Any comments about personal experiences with this receiver
>> > would be appreciated as well.
>> >
>> > Now, IF I go ahead with this I will most certainly need a Blu-Ray
>> > player and probably an HD-DVD player as well. As ridiculous as it
>> > sounds, I will probably buy a Sony PS3 to get Blu-Ray capability
>> > (does it output 1080/24p?) and an external HD-DVD player to hook up
>> > to the XBOX 360. Does the HD-DVD player for the XBOX 360 output
>> > 1080/24p over component video connections? I would seriously doubt
>> > it and unfortunately the XBOX 360 that I have doesn't have HDMI
>> > output. Supposedly the PS3 is HDMI 1.3 while the XBOX 360 doesn't
>> > have HDMI output so that may be a bad idea. Can anyone confirm any
>> > of this? Do most HD-DVD standalone players do HDMI 1.3 and 1080/24p as
>> well?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sorry for all the questions. As always thanks, for any comments and
>> > suggestions.
>> >
>> > Maybe I need to hit the lottery first.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > My goal in life... is to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
>> >
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