Sony VW50 and HDMI 1.3/Denon 3806

Started by tomkemp Jan 7, 2007 3 posts
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RAF:

My son has visited a high-end A/V boutique in the Phoenix, AZ area on
several occasions and was specifically told by the dealer that 1.3
HDMI support was committed to by Sony for VW50 units shipping at the
beginning of the second quarter of 2007. That sounds more like a
"general availability" from multiple vendors than a commitment from
Sony but we will see.

Regarding the Denon 3806, I read the specs in more detail as I should
have previously and I was surprised that the current product only
supports HDMI 1.1. Personally, I wouldn't buy anything be it a
projector, A/V receiver, DVD player, etc. without 1.3 support. It's
probably naive on my part to believe that I could somewhat "future
proof" myself a bit by taking that stance. I guess the other issue
is how long will it be before there is a quantity of source material
at a quality level that takes advantage of the capabilities of the
1.3 specs as opposed to a lot of low quality video/audio that was
simply ported/transferred to either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray?

Tom

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the
moments that take our breath away.





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#2
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Thomas,

I could not resist making a bit of fun with your inspiring (and very true)
last statement:

"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments
that take our breath away."


I would also say that in the case of 1.3:

Waiting for everyone doing an "all 1.3" solution could happen when we "take
our breath away" for good and the "number of breaths " is zero, my goodness.

Many of us have grand children already, it will not be long, I rather
upgrade 5 projectors that take my breath away better every year, even if the
fifth one would probably not be HDMI 309.56 compliant as they expect me to
dance to.

Best Regards,

Rodolfo La Maestra

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RAF:

My son has visited a high-end A/V boutique in the Phoenix, AZ area on
several occasions and was specifically told by the dealer that 1.3
HDMI support was committed to by Sony for VW50 units shipping at the
beginning of the second quarter of 2007. That sounds more like a
"general availability" from multiple vendors than a commitment from
Sony but we will see.

Regarding the Denon 3806, I read the specs in more detail as I should
have previously and I was surprised that the current product only
supports HDMI 1.1. Personally, I wouldn't buy anything be it a
projector, A/V receiver, DVD player, etc. without 1.3 support. It's
probably naive on my part to believe that I could somewhat "future
proof" myself a bit by taking that stance. I guess the other issue
is how long will it be before there is a quantity of source material
at a quality level that takes advantage of the capabilities of the
1.3 specs as opposed to a lot of low quality video/audio that was
simply ported/transferred to either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray?

Tom

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the
moments that take our breath away.





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At 08:43 AM 1/7/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>Regarding the Denon 3806, I read the specs in more detail as I should
>have previously and I was surprised that the current product only
>supports HDMI 1.1. Personally, I wouldn't buy anything be it a
>projector, A/V receiver, DVD player, etc. without 1.3 support. It's
>probably naive on my part to believe that I could somewhat "future
>proof" myself a bit by taking that stance. I guess the other issue
>is how long will it be before there is a quantity of source material
>at a quality level that takes advantage of the capabilities of the
>1.3 specs as opposed to a lot of low quality video/audio that was
>simply ported/transferred to either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray?

Thomas,

Rodolfo has already responded to your concerns and I agree completely
with his assessment. On the Denon 3806 matter, as I pointed out this
unit (which replaces my Lexicon MC-8 which has no HDMI capability) is
a temporary HDMI solution to take advantage of the ability of HDMI
(even 1.1) to deliver decoded Linear PCM from the TrueHD and other
newer audio codecs to my speakers. I was pleasantly surprised at how
good Dolby PlusIIx handles 7.1 sound output - to me it rival's
Lexicon Logic7 in providing a seamless surround environment. In
addition, with a Denon 2930ci "standard" DVD/SACD/DVD-A player
connected digitally to the 3806 via proprietary DenonLinkIII I not
only have my SACD/DVD-A media sounding the best it ever has but this
connection frees up the Analog Audio 7.1 inputs on the 3806 should I
ever need them (although LPCM over HDMI makes this not really
necessary at the moment.)

Yes, 1.3 for everything would be ideal, but at the moment HDMI 1.1
works well with audio (TrueHD et. al. over HDMI via LPCM - decoded by
the player) and with video (as has been mentioned many times, HDMI
has supported 1080p from the beginning.) Yes, True Color is on the
horizon and greater color depth and bandwidth will eventually benefit
us all. But as Rodolfo pointed out elsewhere the time frame for all
this is probably further out than the time frame for my next
projector - and I'm not talking about the 1080p one I will be getting
some time before summer. Whenever I replace the 3806 it will be with
a 1.3 compliant pre/pro (hopefully with more than two HDMI inputs)
but for now the 3806 fits in fine with my current plans since it has
made it possible for me to find out how glorious TrueHD sounds from
both of my HD sources (Blu-ray and HD-DVD). Without HDMI, I would
have had "analog input cram" with no really simple connection solution.

I loved your "breaths we take/ takes our breath away" comment. It
summarizes all of this perfectly. Well said!


-- RAF


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