the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

In theory, this is very exciting news! But what I'm wondering about the
practical side...what use is this exactly? The only thing that comes to mind
is for people who have digital displays but no HDCP, or for DVD players that
upscale.

In my case, I have D-VHS, cable box, and an HD media player. All have
component and digital outputs, and I have a CRT RPTV with only analog
inputs. If I were to buy one of these PLUS the $500+ DVI/HDMI switcher, am I
going to see any improvement? My guess is no.

I can see where it would be of great use if they turn off or down-res analog
outputs in the future (especially HD-DVD or Blu-Ray), and it seems to be
cheap insurance (provided it still works with the version of HDCP that ships
with future products).

So, who can throw out some more uses for this product? I'm sure there are
others I haven't thought of.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:45 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I have confirmed that the DVI to VGA converter does in fact pass HDCP
encrypted digital video signals to an HD display that is limited to analog
inputs! DVI to HDMI adapters will pass the digital video signal just fine,
if your signal source device has HDMI out only. The signal will also then
pass through a VGA to component video converter for HD displays lacking a
VGA or RGBHV input.

Tipsters interested in obtaining one of these boxes can drop me an e-mail.
I can also help you with any cables, adapters and VGA to component
converters you may need. Please have lengths of cable and types of adapters
thought through before contacting me about these solutions.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I am in the process of obtaining one and am a dealer. The issue is due to
the chips that were sent to the company. These critical chip used in the
conversion process inadvertently included HDCP recognition and decryption,
which allows the DVI signal to pass through to the VGA output. One of their
product's consumers notified them of the capability. They notified the chip
supplier but their supplier didn't want to take the chips back and reimburse
them for their trouble. This means there is a limited number of these units
available, then they're gone. The device's manufacturer cannot legally
advertise this capability. If anyone on the Tips List wants one from me,
they can send me an e-mail. I'll let you know what my test results are as
soon as I get the sample and comfirm the claim.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:13 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: the 'magic box'?


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

PureLink makes a DVI to VGA converter that *may* bypass HDCP, allowing us
older display owners to use the dvi output on cable boxes, etc, then the VGA
port of the TV. With a VGA to component video converter, you could use the
component video inputs.

When I say it *may* work with hdcp equipment, that's because their engineer
said it would work, but would not go into any detail - as if they are flying
under the radar of the mpaa, etc.

http://www.dtrovision.com/dc_da1.htm

someone buy it and let us all know!

Jason



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Jason,

As far as use is concerned you nailed it right on the head. I was looking
at this as a possible way to get around being down-resed to 480i off of
whatever Hi Def format disc player that finally enters the market place. I
am in exactly the same posistion as you as you probably know, meaning
component, or 1394 in only. No HDMI or DVI inputs. That is on the Mits.
On the 51" I just purchased I'm safe, but I'd rather watch movies on the 65"
Mits for obvious reasons. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm going
to have to replacing the Mits sometime in the near future but I'm being
cautious as hell because I don't want to find myself in exactly the same
posistion two years after my next purchase. So worst case, I'll watch a
Blu-Ray disc or HD DVD disc on the 51" until some more things shake out.
That is of course once I'm confident one of these new formats is in for the
long haul. Right now I have the nasty feeling that a High definition form
of disc may go the way of "Laser Disc" and will be utilized by only a select
number of die hards. I hope I'm wrong. We'll see

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

In theory, this is very exciting news! But what I'm wondering about the
practical side...what use is this exactly? The only thing that comes to mind
is for people who have digital displays but no HDCP, or for DVD players that
upscale.

In my case, I have D-VHS, cable box, and an HD media player. All have
component and digital outputs, and I have a CRT RPTV with only analog
inputs. If I were to buy one of these PLUS the $500+ DVI/HDMI switcher, am I
going to see any improvement? My guess is no.

I can see where it would be of great use if they turn off or down-res analog
outputs in the future (especially HD-DVD or Blu-Ray), and it seems to be
cheap insurance (provided it still works with the version of HDCP that ships
with future products).

So, who can throw out some more uses for this product? I'm sure there are
others I haven't thought of.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:45 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I have confirmed that the DVI to VGA converter does in fact pass HDCP
encrypted digital video signals to an HD display that is limited to analog
inputs! DVI to HDMI adapters will pass the digital video signal just fine,
if your signal source device has HDMI out only. The signal will also then
pass through a VGA to component video converter for HD displays lacking a
VGA or RGBHV input.

Tipsters interested in obtaining one of these boxes can drop me an e-mail.
I can also help you with any cables, adapters and VGA to component
converters you may need. Please have lengths of cable and types of adapters
thought through before contacting me about these solutions.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I am in the process of obtaining one and am a dealer. The issue is due to
the chips that were sent to the company. These critical chip used in the
conversion process inadvertently included HDCP recognition and decryption,
which allows the DVI signal to pass through to the VGA output. One of their
product's consumers notified them of the capability. They notified the chip
supplier but their supplier didn't want to take the chips back and reimburse
them for their trouble. This means there is a limited number of these units
available, then they're gone. The device's manufacturer cannot legally
advertise this capability. If anyone on the Tips List wants one from me,
they can send me an e-mail. I'll let you know what my test results are as
soon as I get the sample and comfirm the claim.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:13 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: the 'magic box'?


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

PureLink makes a DVI to VGA converter that *may* bypass HDCP, allowing us
older display owners to use the dvi output on cable boxes, etc, then the VGA
port of the TV. With a VGA to component video converter, you could use the
component video inputs.

When I say it *may* work with hdcp equipment, that's because their engineer
said it would work, but would not go into any detail - as if they are flying
under the radar of the mpaa, etc.

http://www.dtrovision.com/dc_da1.htm

someone buy it and let us all know!

Jason



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Anthony, I agree about the format shakeup. That may be another good reason
to rent instead of buying!

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Jason,

As far as use is concerned you nailed it right on the head. I was looking
at this as a possible way to get around being down-resed to 480i off of
whatever Hi Def format disc player that finally enters the market place. I
am in exactly the same posistion as you as you probably know, meaning
component, or 1394 in only. No HDMI or DVI inputs. That is on the Mits.
On the 51" I just purchased I'm safe, but I'd rather watch movies on the 65"
Mits for obvious reasons. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm going
to have to replacing the Mits sometime in the near future but I'm being
cautious as hell because I don't want to find myself in exactly the same
posistion two years after my next purchase. So worst case, I'll watch a
Blu-Ray disc or HD DVD disc on the 51" until some more things shake out.
That is of course once I'm confident one of these new formats is in for the
long haul. Right now I have the nasty feeling that a High definition form
of disc may go the way of "Laser Disc" and will be utilized by only a select
number of die hards. I hope I'm wrong. We'll see

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

In theory, this is very exciting news! But what I'm wondering about the
practical side...what use is this exactly? The only thing that comes to mind
is for people who have digital displays but no HDCP, or for DVD players that
upscale.

In my case, I have D-VHS, cable box, and an HD media player. All have
component and digital outputs, and I have a CRT RPTV with only analog
inputs. If I were to buy one of these PLUS the $500+ DVI/HDMI switcher, am I
going to see any improvement? My guess is no.

I can see where it would be of great use if they turn off or down-res analog
outputs in the future (especially HD-DVD or Blu-Ray), and it seems to be
cheap insurance (provided it still works with the version of HDCP that ships
with future products).

So, who can throw out some more uses for this product? I'm sure there are
others I haven't thought of.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:45 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I have confirmed that the DVI to VGA converter does in fact pass HDCP
encrypted digital video signals to an HD display that is limited to analog
inputs! DVI to HDMI adapters will pass the digital video signal just fine,
if your signal source device has HDMI out only. The signal will also then
pass through a VGA to component video converter for HD displays lacking a
VGA or RGBHV input.

Tipsters interested in obtaining one of these boxes can drop me an e-mail.
I can also help you with any cables, adapters and VGA to component
converters you may need. Please have lengths of cable and types of adapters
thought through before contacting me about these solutions.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I am in the process of obtaining one and am a dealer. The issue is due to
the chips that were sent to the company. These critical chip used in the
conversion process inadvertently included HDCP recognition and decryption,
which allows the DVI signal to pass through to the VGA output. One of their
product's consumers notified them of the capability. They notified the chip
supplier but their supplier didn't want to take the chips back and reimburse
them for their trouble. This means there is a limited number of these units
available, then they're gone. The device's manufacturer cannot legally
advertise this capability. If anyone on the Tips List wants one from me,
they can send me an e-mail. I'll let you know what my test results are as
soon as I get the sample and comfirm the claim.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:13 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: the 'magic box'?


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

PureLink makes a DVI to VGA converter that *may* bypass HDCP, allowing us
older display owners to use the dvi output on cable boxes, etc, then the VGA
port of the TV. With a VGA to component video converter, you could use the
component video inputs.

When I say it *may* work with hdcp equipment, that's because their engineer
said it would work, but would not go into any detail - as if they are flying
under the radar of the mpaa, etc.

http://www.dtrovision.com/dc_da1.htm

someone buy it and let us all know!

Jason



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Do you mean rent the playback unit?

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Jason Burroughs
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:19 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony, I agree about the format shakeup. That may be another good reason
to rent instead of buying!

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Jason,

As far as use is concerned you nailed it right on the head. I was looking
at this as a possible way to get around being down-resed to 480i off of
whatever Hi Def format disc player that finally enters the market place. I
am in exactly the same posistion as you as you probably know, meaning
component, or 1394 in only. No HDMI or DVI inputs. That is on the Mits.
On the 51" I just purchased I'm safe, but I'd rather watch movies on the 65"
Mits for obvious reasons. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm going
to have to replacing the Mits sometime in the near future but I'm being
cautious as hell because I don't want to find myself in exactly the same
posistion two years after my next purchase. So worst case, I'll watch a
Blu-Ray disc or HD DVD disc on the 51" until some more things shake out.
That is of course once I'm confident one of these new formats is in for the
long haul. Right now I have the nasty feeling that a High definition form
of disc may go the way of "Laser Disc" and will be utilized by only a select
number of die hards. I hope I'm wrong. We'll see

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

In theory, this is very exciting news! But what I'm wondering about the
practical side...what use is this exactly? The only thing that comes to mind
is for people who have digital displays but no HDCP, or for DVD players that
upscale.

In my case, I have D-VHS, cable box, and an HD media player. All have
component and digital outputs, and I have a CRT RPTV with only analog
inputs. If I were to buy one of these PLUS the $500+ DVI/HDMI switcher, am I
going to see any improvement? My guess is no.

I can see where it would be of great use if they turn off or down-res analog
outputs in the future (especially HD-DVD or Blu-Ray), and it seems to be
cheap insurance (provided it still works with the version of HDCP that ships
with future products).

So, who can throw out some more uses for this product? I'm sure there are
others I haven't thought of.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:45 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I have confirmed that the DVI to VGA converter does in fact pass HDCP
encrypted digital video signals to an HD display that is limited to analog
inputs! DVI to HDMI adapters will pass the digital video signal just fine,
if your signal source device has HDMI out only. The signal will also then
pass through a VGA to component video converter for HD displays lacking a
VGA or RGBHV input.

Tipsters interested in obtaining one of these boxes can drop me an e-mail.
I can also help you with any cables, adapters and VGA to component
converters you may need. Please have lengths of cable and types of adapters
thought through before contacting me about these solutions.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I am in the process of obtaining one and am a dealer. The issue is due to
the chips that were sent to the company. These critical chip used in the
conversion process inadvertently included HDCP recognition and decryption,
which allows the DVI signal to pass through to the VGA output. One of their
product's consumers notified them of the capability. They notified the chip
supplier but their supplier didn't want to take the chips back and reimburse
them for their trouble. This means there is a limited number of these units
available, then they're gone. The device's manufacturer cannot legally
advertise this capability. If anyone on the Tips List wants one from me,
they can send me an e-mail. I'll let you know what my test results are as
soon as I get the sample and comfirm the claim.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:13 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: the 'magic box'?


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

PureLink makes a DVI to VGA converter that *may* bypass HDCP, allowing us
older display owners to use the dvi output on cable boxes, etc, then the VGA
port of the TV. With a VGA to component video converter, you could use the
component video inputs.

When I say it *may* work with hdcp equipment, that's because their engineer
said it would work, but would not go into any detail - as if they are flying
under the radar of the mpaa, etc.

http://www.dtrovision.com/dc_da1.htm

someone buy it and let us all know!

Jason



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The media, definitely...the hardware, maybe. But if they cost $1000 to buy,
a business would have to charge a pretty hefty amount to recover the cost -
especially since in a year there would likely be units for less than half
that cost.

Hopefully there will be a universal player that does both blu-ray and
hd-dvd, so the hardware won't be as big of a guessing game.

-----Original Message-----
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Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:08 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Do you mean rent the playback unit?

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:19 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony, I agree about the format shakeup. That may be another good reason
to rent instead of buying!

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Jason,

As far as use is concerned you nailed it right on the head. I was looking
at this as a possible way to get around being down-resed to 480i off of
whatever Hi Def format disc player that finally enters the market place. I
am in exactly the same posistion as you as you probably know, meaning
component, or 1394 in only. No HDMI or DVI inputs. That is on the Mits.
On the 51" I just purchased I'm safe, but I'd rather watch movies on the 65"
Mits for obvious reasons. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm going
to have to replacing the Mits sometime in the near future but I'm being
cautious as hell because I don't want to find myself in exactly the same
posistion two years after my next purchase. So worst case, I'll watch a
Blu-Ray disc or HD DVD disc on the 51" until some more things shake out.
That is of course once I'm confident one of these new formats is in for the
long haul. Right now I have the nasty feeling that a High definition form
of disc may go the way of "Laser Disc" and will be utilized by only a select
number of die hards. I hope I'm wrong. We'll see

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

In theory, this is very exciting news! But what I'm wondering about the
practical side...what use is this exactly? The only thing that comes to mind
is for people who have digital displays but no HDCP, or for DVD players that
upscale.

In my case, I have D-VHS, cable box, and an HD media player. All have
component and digital outputs, and I have a CRT RPTV with only analog
inputs. If I were to buy one of these PLUS the $500+ DVI/HDMI switcher, am I
going to see any improvement? My guess is no.

I can see where it would be of great use if they turn off or down-res analog
outputs in the future (especially HD-DVD or Blu-Ray), and it seems to be
cheap insurance (provided it still works with the version of HDCP that ships
with future products).

So, who can throw out some more uses for this product? I'm sure there are
others I haven't thought of.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:45 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I have confirmed that the DVI to VGA converter does in fact pass HDCP
encrypted digital video signals to an HD display that is limited to analog
inputs! DVI to HDMI adapters will pass the digital video signal just fine,
if your signal source device has HDMI out only. The signal will also then
pass through a VGA to component video converter for HD displays lacking a
VGA or RGBHV input.

Tipsters interested in obtaining one of these boxes can drop me an e-mail.
I can also help you with any cables, adapters and VGA to component
converters you may need. Please have lengths of cable and types of adapters
thought through before contacting me about these solutions.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I am in the process of obtaining one and am a dealer. The issue is due to
the chips that were sent to the company. These critical chip used in the
conversion process inadvertently included HDCP recognition and decryption,
which allows the DVI signal to pass through to the VGA output. One of their
product's consumers notified them of the capability. They notified the chip
supplier but their supplier didn't want to take the chips back and reimburse
them for their trouble. This means there is a limited number of these units
available, then they're gone. The device's manufacturer cannot legally
advertise this capability. If anyone on the Tips List wants one from me,
they can send me an e-mail. I'll let you know what my test results are as
soon as I get the sample and comfirm the claim.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:13 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: the 'magic box'?


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

PureLink makes a DVI to VGA converter that *may* bypass HDCP, allowing us
older display owners to use the dvi output on cable boxes, etc, then the VGA
port of the TV. With a VGA to component video converter, you could use the
component video inputs.

When I say it *may* work with hdcp equipment, that's because their engineer
said it would work, but would not go into any detail - as if they are flying
under the radar of the mpaa, etc.

http://www.dtrovision.com/dc_da1.htm

someone buy it and let us all know!

Jason



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I wonder what their projected sales are in the first quarter. I'd love to
see that!

Anthony R.
Orlando, fl

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:22 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

The media, definitely...the hardware, maybe. But if they cost $1000 to buy,
a business would have to charge a pretty hefty amount to recover the cost -
especially since in a year there would likely be units for less than half
that cost.

Hopefully there will be a universal player that does both blu-ray and
hd-dvd, so the hardware won't be as big of a guessing game.

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:08 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Do you mean rent the playback unit?

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:19 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Anthony, I agree about the format shakeup. That may be another good reason
to rent instead of buying!

Jason

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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Jason,

As far as use is concerned you nailed it right on the head. I was looking
at this as a possible way to get around being down-resed to 480i off of
whatever Hi Def format disc player that finally enters the market place. I
am in exactly the same posistion as you as you probably know, meaning
component, or 1394 in only. No HDMI or DVI inputs. That is on the Mits.
On the 51" I just purchased I'm safe, but I'd rather watch movies on the 65"
Mits for obvious reasons. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm going
to have to replacing the Mits sometime in the near future but I'm being
cautious as hell because I don't want to find myself in exactly the same
posistion two years after my next purchase. So worst case, I'll watch a
Blu-Ray disc or HD DVD disc on the 51" until some more things shake out.
That is of course once I'm confident one of these new formats is in for the
long haul. Right now I have the nasty feeling that a High definition form
of disc may go the way of "Laser Disc" and will be utilized by only a select
number of die hards. I hope I'm wrong. We'll see

Anthony R.
Orlando, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

In theory, this is very exciting news! But what I'm wondering about the
practical side...what use is this exactly? The only thing that comes to mind
is for people who have digital displays but no HDCP, or for DVD players that
upscale.

In my case, I have D-VHS, cable box, and an HD media player. All have
component and digital outputs, and I have a CRT RPTV with only analog
inputs. If I were to buy one of these PLUS the $500+ DVI/HDMI switcher, am I
going to see any improvement? My guess is no.

I can see where it would be of great use if they turn off or down-res analog
outputs in the future (especially HD-DVD or Blu-Ray), and it seems to be
cheap insurance (provided it still works with the version of HDCP that ships
with future products).

So, who can throw out some more uses for this product? I'm sure there are
others I haven't thought of.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:45 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?- Excellent News!

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I have confirmed that the DVI to VGA converter does in fact pass HDCP
encrypted digital video signals to an HD display that is limited to analog
inputs! DVI to HDMI adapters will pass the digital video signal just fine,
if your signal source device has HDMI out only. The signal will also then
pass through a VGA to component video converter for HD displays lacking a
VGA or RGBHV input.

Tipsters interested in obtaining one of these boxes can drop me an e-mail.
I can also help you with any cables, adapters and VGA to component
converters you may need. Please have lengths of cable and types of adapters
thought through before contacting me about these solutions.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Alan Brown
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:30 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: the 'magic box'?

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

I am in the process of obtaining one and am a dealer. The issue is due to
the chips that were sent to the company. These critical chip used in the
conversion process inadvertently included HDCP recognition and decryption,
which allows the DVI signal to pass through to the VGA output. One of their
product's consumers notified them of the capability. They notified the chip
supplier but their supplier didn't want to take the chips back and reimburse
them for their trouble. This means there is a limited number of these units
available, then they're gone. The device's manufacturer cannot legally
advertise this capability. If anyone on the Tips List wants one from me,
they can send me an e-mail. I'll let you know what my test results are as
soon as I get the sample and comfirm the claim.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Jason Burroughs
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:13 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: the 'magic box'?


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

PureLink makes a DVI to VGA converter that *may* bypass HDCP, allowing us
older display owners to use the dvi output on cable boxes, etc, then the VGA
port of the TV. With a VGA to component video converter, you could use the
component video inputs.

When I say it *may* work with hdcp equipment, that's because their engineer
said it would work, but would not go into any detail - as if they are flying
under the radar of the mpaa, etc.

http://www.dtrovision.com/dc_da1.htm

someone buy it and let us all know!

Jason



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