Tuner Date Extended

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Isn't that going to drive up the cost of those smaller sets dramatically?
Also, and I don't know anything about this really, can a normal antenna on
say a 13" portable pick up digital or hd broadcasts?

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl

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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:49 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tuner Date Extended


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In case anyone missed this last week:

" Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission advanced
completion of its digital tuner mandate by four months to March 1, 2007, and
not Dec. 2006 as some had proposed, and expanded the mandate's scope to
include sets measuring 13-inches and smaller.

Under the new schedule, every new TV set sold in the United States after
February 2007 must include an over-the-air ATSC digital tuner. The previous
rules, which included a phase-in requirement starting with the largest
screen sizes first, would have required digital tuners in most sets by July
1, 2007, exempting sets with screen sizes measuring 13-inches and smaller.

As under the previous rules, all other phase-in deadlines remain, and
monitor-only displays may continue to omit digital tuners if they do not
include analog NTSC tuners.

The FCC said it removed the exemption on the smaller screen TV because
portable, battery-powered TVs enable reception of news and public-safety
information in times of emergency."


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can a normal antenna on
say a 13" portable pick up digital or hd broadcasts?

Absolutely, an antenna is an antenna. There may be a need for both the VHF
"stick" and a UHF bow-tie, but you have that anyway with analog.

Bobby

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Anthony Rizzuto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:13 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Tuner Date Extended


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Isn't that going to drive up the cost of those smaller sets dramatically?
Also, and I don't know anything about this really, can a normal antenna on
say a 13" portable pick up digital or hd broadcasts?

Anthony R.
Orlando, Fl



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Something I'm STILL confused about. Can't manufacturers simply make the
units without a tuner at all? In other words, all those 13" TVs in cars that
have tuners in them today could simply be replaced in next year's product
line with a version that has no tuner at all. This seems allowed, and seems
like a pretty easy 'solution'.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:49 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tuner Date Extended

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In case anyone missed this last week:

" Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission advanced
completion of its digital tuner mandate by four months to March 1, 2007, and

not Dec. 2006 as some had proposed, and expanded the mandate's scope to
include sets measuring 13-inches and smaller.

Under the new schedule, every new TV set sold in the United States after
February 2007 must include an over-the-air ATSC digital tuner. The previous
rules, which included a phase-in requirement starting with the largest
screen sizes first, would have required digital tuners in most sets by July
1, 2007, exempting sets with screen sizes measuring 13-inches and smaller.

As under the previous rules, all other phase-in deadlines remain, and
monitor-only displays may continue to omit digital tuners if they do not
include analog NTSC tuners.

The FCC said it removed the exemption on the smaller screen TV because
portable, battery-powered TVs enable reception of news and public-safety
information in times of emergency."


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Yes they can make and sell 13" monitors (no tuners),
this would be within the constraints of the
regulation, but who would buy them?

Sure you can have a 5" portable monitor, and then have
to have a portable tuner for it. Together doesn't seem
very portable to me.

--- Jason Burroughs <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> Something I'm STILL confused about. Can't
> manufacturers simply make the
> units without a tuner at all? In other words, all
> those 13" TVs in cars that
> have tuners in them today could simply be replaced
> in next year's product
> line with a version that has no tuner at all. This
> seems allowed, and seems
> like a pretty easy 'solution'.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf
> Of
> Hugh Campbell
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Tuner Date Extended
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> In case anyone missed this last week:
>
> " Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications
> Commission advanced
> completion of its digital tuner mandate by four
> months to March 1, 2007, and
>
> not Dec. 2006 as some had proposed, and expanded
> the mandate's scope to
> include sets measuring 13-inches and smaller.
>
> Under the new schedule, every new TV set sold in
> the United States after
> February 2007 must include an over-the-air ATSC
> digital tuner. The previous
> rules, which included a phase-in requirement
> starting with the largest
> screen sizes first, would have required digital
> tuners in most sets by July
> 1, 2007, exempting sets with screen sizes measuring
> 13-inches and smaller.
>
> As under the previous rules, all other phase-in
> deadlines remain, and
> monitor-only displays may continue to omit digital
> tuners if they do not
> include analog NTSC tuners.
>
> The FCC said it removed the exemption on the
> smaller screen TV because
> portable, battery-powered TVs enable reception of
> news and public-safety
> information in times of emergency."
>
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I have a 9" Sony Trinitron portable AC/DC from round
2002 that just has a stick antenna and picks up UHF
with ease, of course Analog. I have not tried plugging
in the "stick" to the HD Dig OTA rec. hmm I will try
and see what happens....
TomV

--- Bob Caplan <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> can a normal antenna on
> say a 13" portable pick up digital or hd broadcasts?
>
> Absolutely, an antenna is an antenna. There may be
> a need for both the VHF
> "stick" and a UHF bow-tie, but you have that anyway
> with analog.
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine
> On Behalf Of
> Anthony Rizzuto
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:13 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Tuner Date Extended
>
>
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>
> Isn't that going to drive up the cost of those
> smaller sets dramatically?
> Also, and I don't know anything about this really,
> can a normal antenna on
> say a 13" portable pick up digital or hd broadcasts?
>
> Anthony R.
> Orlando, Fl
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Jason, Certainly they can make monitors with no tuner at all, but the
needed STB would likely be larger than the monotor. The portability of
the small set would be lost. In addition, all those sets without digital
tuners will "go black" when the analog stations are shut down.

Howard in South Bend


On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 13:41 -0600, Jason Burroughs wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Something I'm STILL confused about. Can't manufacturers simply make the
> units without a tuner at all? In other words, all those 13" TVs in cars that
> have tuners in them today could simply be replaced in next year's product
> line with a version that has no tuner at all. This seems allowed, and seems
> like a pretty easy 'solution'.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Hugh Campbell
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Tuner Date Extended
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> In case anyone missed this last week:
>
> " Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission advanced
> completion of its digital tuner mandate by four months to March 1, 2007, and
>
> not Dec. 2006 as some had proposed, and expanded the mandate's scope to
> include sets measuring 13-inches and smaller.
>
> Under the new schedule, every new TV set sold in the United States after
> February 2007 must include an over-the-air ATSC digital tuner. The previous
> rules, which included a phase-in requirement starting with the largest
> screen sizes first, would have required digital tuners in most sets by July
> 1, 2007, exempting sets with screen sizes measuring 13-inches and smaller.
>
> As under the previous rules, all other phase-in deadlines remain, and
> monitor-only displays may continue to omit digital tuners if they do not
> include analog NTSC tuners.
>
> The FCC said it removed the exemption on the smaller screen TV because
> portable, battery-powered TVs enable reception of news and public-safety
> information in times of emergency."
>
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11/7/2005 4:26pm ct

thank goodness

Robert

At 08:49 AM 11/7/2005, you wrote:
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>In case anyone missed this last week:
>
>" Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission advanced
>completion of its digital tuner mandate by four months to March 1,
>2007, and not Dec. 2006 as some had proposed, and expanded the
>mandate's scope to include sets measuring 13-inches and smaller.
>
>Under the new schedule, every new TV set sold in the United States after
>February 2007 must include an over-the-air ATSC digital tuner. The previous
>rules, which included a phase-in requirement starting with the largest
>screen sizes first, would have required digital tuners in most sets by July
>1, 2007, exempting sets with screen sizes measuring 13-inches and smaller.
>
>As under the previous rules, all other phase-in deadlines remain, and
>monitor-only displays may continue to omit digital tuners if they do not
>include analog NTSC tuners.
>
>The FCC said it removed the exemption on the smaller screen TV because
>portable, battery-powered TVs enable reception of news and public-safety
>information in times of emergency."
>
>
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I'm saying that I don't see anyone in cars watching off-air tv - they're all
watching DVDs and playing video games. I'm sure some do, but hasn't it been
said many times that it's a very small percentage of people out there? It
seems that it would make more sense to have a gap of a year or two in which
the larger set sales (with integrated tuners) bring the cost to the consumer
for the tuner down low enough where they can start stuffing them back in.

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of H.
A. Blackstead
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:00 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Tuner Date Extended

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Jason, Certainly they can make monitors with no tuner at all, but the
needed STB would likely be larger than the monotor. The portability of
the small set would be lost. In addition, all those sets without digital
tuners will "go black" when the analog stations are shut down.

Howard in South Bend


On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 13:41 -0600, Jason Burroughs wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Something I'm STILL confused about. Can't manufacturers simply make the
> units without a tuner at all? In other words, all those 13" TVs in cars
that
> have tuners in them today could simply be replaced in next year's product
> line with a version that has no tuner at all. This seems allowed, and
seems
> like a pretty easy 'solution'.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Hugh Campbell
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Tuner Date Extended
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> In case anyone missed this last week:
>
> " Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission advanced
> completion of its digital tuner mandate by four months to March 1, 2007,
and
>
> not Dec. 2006 as some had proposed, and expanded the mandate's scope to
> include sets measuring 13-inches and smaller.
>
> Under the new schedule, every new TV set sold in the United States after
> February 2007 must include an over-the-air ATSC digital tuner. The
previous
> rules, which included a phase-in requirement starting with the largest
> screen sizes first, would have required digital tuners in most sets by
July
> 1, 2007, exempting sets with screen sizes measuring 13-inches and
smaller.
>
> As under the previous rules, all other phase-in deadlines remain, and
> monitor-only displays may continue to omit digital tuners if they do not
> include analog NTSC tuners.
>
> The FCC said it removed the exemption on the smaller screen TV because
> portable, battery-powered TVs enable reception of news and public-safety
> information in times of emergency."
>
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Are they not mandated to make a certain percentage of their sets with
tuners?

Mark Alford


-----Original Message-----
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Jason Burroughs
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:42 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Tuner Date Extended

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Something I'm STILL confused about. Can't manufacturers simply make the
units without a tuner at all? In other words, all those 13" TVs in cars that
have tuners in them today could simply be replaced in next year's product
line with a version that has no tuner at all. This seems allowed, and seems
like a pretty easy 'solution'.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Hugh Campbell
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:49 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Tuner Date Extended

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In case anyone missed this last week:

" Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission advanced
completion of its digital tuner mandate by four months to March 1, 2007, and

not Dec. 2006 as some had proposed, and expanded the mandate's scope to
include sets measuring 13-inches and smaller.

Under the new schedule, every new TV set sold in the United States after
February 2007 must include an over-the-air ATSC digital tuner. The previous
rules, which included a phase-in requirement starting with the largest
screen sizes first, would have required digital tuners in most sets by July
1, 2007, exempting sets with screen sizes measuring 13-inches and smaller.

As under the previous rules, all other phase-in deadlines remain, and
monitor-only displays may continue to omit digital tuners if they do not
include analog NTSC tuners.

The FCC said it removed the exemption on the smaller screen TV because
portable, battery-powered TVs enable reception of news and public-safety
information in times of emergency."


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A display device without a tuner (i.e. a monitor) is not a TV set (by
definition). Make as many as you like!

Howard in South Bend, where NAVY will be sunk on Saturday by Charlie's
Air-Force.




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> Are they not mandated to make a certain percentage of their sets with
> tuners?
>
> Mark Alford
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Jason Burroughs
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:42 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Tuner Date Extended
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Something I'm STILL confused about. Can't manufacturers simply make the
> units without a tuner at all? In other words, all those 13" TVs in cars that
> have tuners in them today could simply be replaced in next year's product
> line with a version that has no tuner at all. This seems allowed, and seems
> like a pretty easy 'solution'.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Hugh Campbell
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Tuner Date Extended
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> In case anyone missed this last week:
>
> " Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission advanced
> completion of its digital tuner mandate by four months to March 1, 2007, and
>
> not Dec. 2006 as some had proposed, and expanded the mandate's scope to
> include sets measuring 13-inches and smaller.
>
> Under the new schedule, every new TV set sold in the United States after
> February 2007 must include an over-the-air ATSC digital tuner. The previous
> rules, which included a phase-in requirement starting with the largest
> screen sizes first, would have required digital tuners in most sets by July
> 1, 2007, exempting sets with screen sizes measuring 13-inches and smaller.
>
> As under the previous rules, all other phase-in deadlines remain, and
> monitor-only displays may continue to omit digital tuners if they do not
> include analog NTSC tuners.
>
> The FCC said it removed the exemption on the smaller screen TV because
> portable, battery-powered TVs enable reception of news and public-safety
> information in times of emergency."
>
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