Viewing Distance

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Dale explained it succinctly enough as to be the final word on CVD for me.

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Richard Fisher
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:31 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Viewing Distance

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Hey Bill,

Great link

Now at HD Library, Viewing Distance:

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3213

Thanks

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Bill Tilghman wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> If you're sitting 17ft from your TV, you would want a 130" diagonal 16:9
TV
> if my figures are correct, based on critical viewing distance of 3x the
> screen height.
>
> See:
>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/213962/m ... 830835/Som
> e+Science%2C+some+art
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
M.
> Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:02 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> I don't have a complete vision yet, but here are some scattered thoughts:
>
> - in my current room, DLP (1080p)
> - but my wife likes the one's that hang, rather than sit. If we go
> wall-mount, it will be LCD
> - in my (eventual) home theater, front-projection of some sort (probably
> DLP) ... I've not done much research yet
> - our current TV room is roughly 25x15, and we sit approximately 17ft from
> the TV, so the bigger the better.
> - I've always liked Samsung & Mitsubishi, but the new Sony's looked great
> at CES
> - It must have HDMI w/HDCP
> - my DVD player already has HDMI
> - my STB is still limited to component, but I will be upgrading that soon
> to a DVR anyway (once DirecTV releases them)
> - component input would be nice to support my gaming consoles (PS2, Xbox
> 360)
> - multiple inputs would be nice, although I will probably upgrade my Denon
> to one with HDMI switching before long.
>
> I think that's it.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
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>
> Shane - On the subject of shopping for a new TV - what
> would be your perfect TV? Specs, inputs, size etc.
> Personally I'm waiting for Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs
> but I'm curious as to what you are looking for.
>
> Joe Soprano
> San Diego
>
> --- "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
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>>
>>I was in the Best Buy this evening, browsing around
>>looking at new TV's.
>>Partly because I'm always curious to see how the
>>different stores set them
>>up, and partly because I want to be able to watch
>>HD-DVD next month and my
>>7-year-old Mits only has component inputs.
>>
>>Anyway, I was looking at a Pioneer plasma, probably
>>about 50" or so (didn't
>>check). They had been running a Las Vegas demo clip
>>and then moved on to an
>>INHD clip. For a minute or two after the Vegas clip
>>ended, and the INHD
>>clip began, there was a noticeable burn-in of the
>>"Vegas" arrow in the
>>lower right ... plain as day to my eyes. As I was
>>explaining it to a
>>friend, though ... it began to slowly go away. And
>>after about a minute in
>>front of the set it was gone.
>>
>>This goes along with what I've read recently, but
>>what surprised me was
>>that the residual "arrow" was even there since the
>>Vegas clip was only a
>>minute or two long. I did not think that burn-in
>>would set that quickly.
>>
>>Anyway, just thought I would share my observations.
>>
>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
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Most the recommended viewing distances I have seen for HDTV are WAY, WAY to
close to the screen. I have a 34 inch diagonal HDTV which I watch at about
10 feet. The picture is excellent. Recommended distance is, something like
5' 8", uncomfortably close to the screen for me. I read a review in PC
magazine that said if you watched HDTV a distance, substantially farther
than recommended, you wouldn't see the HD effect at all. Now that's a huge
load of "horse hockey" no matter how you slice it.

Dave
Janesville, WI


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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Dale explained it succinctly enough as to be the final word on CVD for me.

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Richard Fisher
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:31 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Viewing Distance

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Hey Bill,

Great link

Now at HD Library, Viewing Distance:

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3213

Thanks

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Bill Tilghman wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> If you're sitting 17ft from your TV, you would want a 130" diagonal 16:9
TV
> if my figures are correct, based on critical viewing distance of 3x the
> screen height.
>
> See:
>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/213962/m ... 830835/Som
> e+Science%2C+some+art
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
M.
> Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:02 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> I don't have a complete vision yet, but here are some scattered thoughts:
>
> - in my current room, DLP (1080p)
> - but my wife likes the one's that hang, rather than sit. If we go
> wall-mount, it will be LCD
> - in my (eventual) home theater, front-projection of some sort (probably
> DLP) ... I've not done much research yet
> - our current TV room is roughly 25x15, and we sit approximately 17ft from
> the TV, so the bigger the better.
> - I've always liked Samsung & Mitsubishi, but the new Sony's looked great
> at CES
> - It must have HDMI w/HDCP
> - my DVD player already has HDMI
> - my STB is still limited to component, but I will be upgrading that soon
> to a DVR anyway (once DirecTV releases them)
> - component input would be nice to support my gaming consoles (PS2, Xbox
> 360)
> - multiple inputs would be nice, although I will probably upgrade my Denon
> to one with HDMI switching before long.
>
> I think that's it.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
> |---------+--------------------------------->
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> |
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>
>
>
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>
> Shane - On the subject of shopping for a new TV - what
> would be your perfect TV? Specs, inputs, size etc.
> Personally I'm waiting for Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs
> but I'm curious as to what you are looking for.
>
> Joe Soprano
> San Diego
>
> --- "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>I was in the Best Buy this evening, browsing around
>>looking at new TV's.
>>Partly because I'm always curious to see how the
>>different stores set them
>>up, and partly because I want to be able to watch
>>HD-DVD next month and my
>>7-year-old Mits only has component inputs.
>>
>>Anyway, I was looking at a Pioneer plasma, probably
>>about 50" or so (didn't
>>check). They had been running a Las Vegas demo clip
>>and then moved on to an
>>INHD clip. For a minute or two after the Vegas clip
>>ended, and the INHD
>>clip began, there was a noticeable burn-in of the
>>"Vegas" arrow in the
>>lower right ... plain as day to my eyes. As I was
>>explaining it to a
>>friend, though ... it began to slowly go away. And
>>after about a minute in
>>front of the set it was gone.
>>
>>This goes along with what I've read recently, but
>>what surprised me was
>>that the residual "arrow" was even there since the
>>Vegas clip was only a
>>minute or two long. I did not think that burn-in
>>would set that quickly.
>>
>>Anyway, just thought I would share my observations.
>>
>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
>>
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Dale did express it rather well. If you sit too far back you miss all the
detail in a high def. picture. I've been in stores and from a distance two
sets will look alike until you get closer and see that one is showing an SD
picture and the other HD. I like being immersed in the programming.

Hugh


----- Original Message -----
From: "David O. Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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>
> Most the recommended viewing distances I have seen for HDTV are WAY, WAY
> to close to the screen. I have a 34 inch diagonal HDTV which I watch at
> about 10 feet. The picture is excellent. Recommended distance is,
> something like 5' 8", uncomfortably close to the screen for me. I read a
> review in PC magazine that said if you watched HDTV a distance,
> substantially farther than recommended, you wouldn't see the HD effect at
> all. Now that's a huge load of "horse hockey" no matter how you slice it.
>
> Dave
> Janesville, WI
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Dale explained it succinctly enough as to be the final word on CVD for me.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Richard Fisher
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Great link
>
> Now at HD Library, Viewing Distance:
>
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3213
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> Bill Tilghman wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> If you're sitting 17ft from your TV, you would want a 130" diagonal 16:9
> TV
>> if my figures are correct, based on critical viewing distance of 3x the
>> screen height.
>>
>> See:
>>
> http://www.network54.com/Forum/213962/m ... 830835/Som
>> e+Science%2C+some+art
>>
>> Bill T.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> M.
>> Shane Sturgeon
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:02 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> I don't have a complete vision yet, but here are some scattered thoughts:
>>
>> - in my current room, DLP (1080p)
>> - but my wife likes the one's that hang, rather than sit. If we go
>> wall-mount, it will be LCD
>> - in my (eventual) home theater, front-projection of some sort (probably
>> DLP) ... I've not done much research yet
>> - our current TV room is roughly 25x15, and we sit approximately 17ft
>> from
>> the TV, so the bigger the better.
>> - I've always liked Samsung & Mitsubishi, but the new Sony's looked great
>> at CES
>> - It must have HDMI w/HDCP
>> - my DVD player already has HDMI
>> - my STB is still limited to component, but I will be upgrading that soon
>> to a DVR anyway (once DirecTV releases them)
>> - component input would be nice to support my gaming consoles (PS2, Xbox
>> 360)
>> - multiple inputs would be nice, although I will probably upgrade my
>> Denon
>> to one with HDMI switching before long.
>>
>> I think that's it.
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | Joe Soprano dba Fun |
>> | | Services |
>> | | <[email protected]|
>> | | > |
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
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>> | | 02/11/2006 08:30 AM |
>> | | Please respond to |
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>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> |
>> | cc:
>> |
>> | Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>> |
>>
>>
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>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Shane - On the subject of shopping for a new TV - what
>> would be your perfect TV? Specs, inputs, size etc.
>> Personally I'm waiting for Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs
>> but I'm curious as to what you are looking for.
>>
>> Joe Soprano
>> San Diego
>>
>> --- "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>I was in the Best Buy this evening, browsing around
>>>looking at new TV's.
>>>Partly because I'm always curious to see how the
>>>different stores set them
>>>up, and partly because I want to be able to watch
>>>HD-DVD next month and my
>>>7-year-old Mits only has component inputs.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I was looking at a Pioneer plasma, probably
>>>about 50" or so (didn't
>>>check). They had been running a Las Vegas demo clip
>>>and then moved on to an
>>>INHD clip. For a minute or two after the Vegas clip
>>>ended, and the INHD
>>>clip began, there was a noticeable burn-in of the
>>>"Vegas" arrow in the
>>>lower right ... plain as day to my eyes. As I was
>>>explaining it to a
>>>friend, though ... it began to slowly go away. And
>>>after about a minute in
>>>front of the set it was gone.
>>>
>>>This goes along with what I've read recently, but
>>>what surprised me was
>>>that the residual "arrow" was even there since the
>>>Vegas clip was only a
>>>minute or two long. I did not think that burn-in
>>>would set that quickly.
>>>
>>>Anyway, just thought I would share my observations.
>>>
>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>
>>>
>>>
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As Dale says: "You can...sit in the next county with binoculars if you
like..."

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:55 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance

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Most the recommended viewing distances I have seen for HDTV are WAY, WAY to
close to the screen. I have a 34 inch diagonal HDTV which I watch at about
10 feet. The picture is excellent. Recommended distance is, something like
5' 8", uncomfortably close to the screen for me. I read a review in PC
magazine that said if you watched HDTV a distance, substantially farther
than recommended, you wouldn't see the HD effect at all. Now that's a huge
load of "horse hockey" no matter how you slice it.

Dave
Janesville, WI


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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Dale explained it succinctly enough as to be the final word on CVD for me.

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Richard Fisher
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:31 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Viewing Distance

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Hey Bill,

Great link

Now at HD Library, Viewing Distance:

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3213

Thanks

Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation

Bill Tilghman wrote:
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> If you're sitting 17ft from your TV, you would want a 130" diagonal 16:9
TV
> if my figures are correct, based on critical viewing distance of 3x the
> screen height.
>
> See:
>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/213962/m ... 830835/Som
> e+Science%2C+some+art
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
M.
> Shane Sturgeon
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:02 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
>
> I don't have a complete vision yet, but here are some scattered thoughts:
>
> - in my current room, DLP (1080p)
> - but my wife likes the one's that hang, rather than sit. If we go
> wall-mount, it will be LCD
> - in my (eventual) home theater, front-projection of some sort (probably
> DLP) ... I've not done much research yet
> - our current TV room is roughly 25x15, and we sit approximately 17ft from
> the TV, so the bigger the better.
> - I've always liked Samsung & Mitsubishi, but the new Sony's looked great
> at CES
> - It must have HDMI w/HDCP
> - my DVD player already has HDMI
> - my STB is still limited to component, but I will be upgrading that soon
> to a DVR anyway (once DirecTV releases them)
> - component input would be nice to support my gaming consoles (PS2, Xbox
> 360)
> - multiple inputs would be nice, although I will probably upgrade my Denon
> to one with HDMI switching before long.
>
> I think that's it.
>
> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>
>
>
> |---------+--------------------------------->
> | | Joe Soprano dba Fun |
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> | | <[email protected]|
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> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
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> | | |
> | | 02/11/2006 08:30 AM |
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> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
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>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Shane - On the subject of shopping for a new TV - what
> would be your perfect TV? Specs, inputs, size etc.
> Personally I'm waiting for Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs
> but I'm curious as to what you are looking for.
>
> Joe Soprano
> San Diego
>
> --- "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>I was in the Best Buy this evening, browsing around
>>looking at new TV's.
>>Partly because I'm always curious to see how the
>>different stores set them
>>up, and partly because I want to be able to watch
>>HD-DVD next month and my
>>7-year-old Mits only has component inputs.
>>
>>Anyway, I was looking at a Pioneer plasma, probably
>>about 50" or so (didn't
>>check). They had been running a Las Vegas demo clip
>>and then moved on to an
>>INHD clip. For a minute or two after the Vegas clip
>>ended, and the INHD
>>clip began, there was a noticeable burn-in of the
>>"Vegas" arrow in the
>>lower right ... plain as day to my eyes. As I was
>>explaining it to a
>>friend, though ... it began to slowly go away. And
>>after about a minute in
>>front of the set it was gone.
>>
>>This goes along with what I've read recently, but
>>what surprised me was
>>that the residual "arrow" was even there since the
>>Vegas clip was only a
>>minute or two long. I did not think that burn-in
>>would set that quickly.
>>
>>Anyway, just thought I would share my observations.
>>
>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
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David,

Alas, you have come to the domain of the celebrated true videophile. What
you or I can see and experience with our "untrained" eyes prevents us from
seeing what true videophiles see. They even have measurements and standards
of various kinds that prove that what they can see really makes a picture
look crappy. I accept it on faith since I'm not a true videophile. Like you
I watch my HDTV from a distance well beyond the proscribed distance and
enjoy the hell out of what I see. I guess ignorance is bliss.

Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "David O. Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Most the recommended viewing distances I have seen for HDTV are WAY, WAY
> to close to the screen. I have a 34 inch diagonal HDTV which I watch at
> about 10 feet. The picture is excellent. Recommended distance is,
> something like 5' 8", uncomfortably close to the screen for me. I read a
> review in PC magazine that said if you watched HDTV a distance,
> substantially farther than recommended, you wouldn't see the HD effect at
> all. Now that's a huge load of "horse hockey" no matter how you slice it.
>
> Dave
> Janesville, WI
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Dale explained it succinctly enough as to be the final word on CVD for me.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Richard Fisher
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Great link
>
> Now at HD Library, Viewing Distance:
>
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3213
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> Bill Tilghman wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> If you're sitting 17ft from your TV, you would want a 130" diagonal 16:9
> TV
>> if my figures are correct, based on critical viewing distance of 3x the
>> screen height.
>>
>> See:
>>
> http://www.network54.com/Forum/213962/m ... 830835/Som
>> e+Science%2C+some+art
>>
>> Bill T.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> M.
>> Shane Sturgeon
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:02 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> I don't have a complete vision yet, but here are some scattered thoughts:
>>
>> - in my current room, DLP (1080p)
>> - but my wife likes the one's that hang, rather than sit. If we go
>> wall-mount, it will be LCD
>> - in my (eventual) home theater, front-projection of some sort (probably
>> DLP) ... I've not done much research yet
>> - our current TV room is roughly 25x15, and we sit approximately 17ft
>> from
>> the TV, so the bigger the better.
>> - I've always liked Samsung & Mitsubishi, but the new Sony's looked great
>> at CES
>> - It must have HDMI w/HDCP
>> - my DVD player already has HDMI
>> - my STB is still limited to component, but I will be upgrading that soon
>> to a DVR anyway (once DirecTV releases them)
>> - component input would be nice to support my gaming consoles (PS2, Xbox
>> 360)
>> - multiple inputs would be nice, although I will probably upgrade my
>> Denon
>> to one with HDMI switching before long.
>>
>> I think that's it.
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | Joe Soprano dba Fun |
>> | | Services |
>> | | <[email protected]|
>> | | > |
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
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>> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
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>> | | |
>> | | |
>> | | 02/11/2006 08:30 AM |
>> | | Please respond to |
>> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
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>>
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>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>> |
>> |
>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> |
>> | cc:
>> |
>> | Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>> |
>>
>>
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>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Shane - On the subject of shopping for a new TV - what
>> would be your perfect TV? Specs, inputs, size etc.
>> Personally I'm waiting for Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs
>> but I'm curious as to what you are looking for.
>>
>> Joe Soprano
>> San Diego
>>
>> --- "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>I was in the Best Buy this evening, browsing around
>>>looking at new TV's.
>>>Partly because I'm always curious to see how the
>>>different stores set them
>>>up, and partly because I want to be able to watch
>>>HD-DVD next month and my
>>>7-year-old Mits only has component inputs.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I was looking at a Pioneer plasma, probably
>>>about 50" or so (didn't
>>>check). They had been running a Las Vegas demo clip
>>>and then moved on to an
>>>INHD clip. For a minute or two after the Vegas clip
>>>ended, and the INHD
>>>clip began, there was a noticeable burn-in of the
>>>"Vegas" arrow in the
>>>lower right ... plain as day to my eyes. As I was
>>>explaining it to a
>>>friend, though ... it began to slowly go away. And
>>>after about a minute in
>>>front of the set it was gone.
>>>
>>>This goes along with what I've read recently, but
>>>what surprised me was
>>>that the residual "arrow" was even there since the
>>>Vegas clip was only a
>>>minute or two long. I did not think that burn-in
>>>would set that quickly.
>>>
>>>Anyway, just thought I would share my observations.
>>>
>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Question for Dave and Jack:

Have either of you had your set ISF calibrated?

Just curious.

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of FJ
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:15 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

David,

Alas, you have come to the domain of the celebrated true videophile. What
you or I can see and experience with our "untrained" eyes prevents us from
seeing what true videophiles see. They even have measurements and standards
of various kinds that prove that what they can see really makes a picture
look crappy. I accept it on faith since I'm not a true videophile. Like you
I watch my HDTV from a distance well beyond the proscribed distance and
enjoy the hell out of what I see. I guess ignorance is bliss.

Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "David O. Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Most the recommended viewing distances I have seen for HDTV are WAY, WAY
> to close to the screen. I have a 34 inch diagonal HDTV which I watch at
> about 10 feet. The picture is excellent. Recommended distance is,
> something like 5' 8", uncomfortably close to the screen for me. I read a
> review in PC magazine that said if you watched HDTV a distance,
> substantially farther than recommended, you wouldn't see the HD effect at
> all. Now that's a huge load of "horse hockey" no matter how you slice it.
>
> Dave
> Janesville, WI
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Dale explained it succinctly enough as to be the final word on CVD for me.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Richard Fisher
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Great link
>
> Now at HD Library, Viewing Distance:
>
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3213
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> Bill Tilghman wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> If you're sitting 17ft from your TV, you would want a 130" diagonal 16:9
> TV
>> if my figures are correct, based on critical viewing distance of 3x the
>> screen height.
>>
>> See:
>>
>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/213962/m ... 830835/Som
>> e+Science%2C+some+art
>>
>> Bill T.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> M.
>> Shane Sturgeon
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:02 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> I don't have a complete vision yet, but here are some scattered thoughts:
>>
>> - in my current room, DLP (1080p)
>> - but my wife likes the one's that hang, rather than sit. If we go
>> wall-mount, it will be LCD
>> - in my (eventual) home theater, front-projection of some sort (probably
>> DLP) ... I've not done much research yet
>> - our current TV room is roughly 25x15, and we sit approximately 17ft
>> from
>> the TV, so the bigger the better.
>> - I've always liked Samsung & Mitsubishi, but the new Sony's looked great
>> at CES
>> - It must have HDMI w/HDCP
>> - my DVD player already has HDMI
>> - my STB is still limited to component, but I will be upgrading that soon
>> to a DVR anyway (once DirecTV releases them)
>> - component input would be nice to support my gaming consoles (PS2, Xbox
>> 360)
>> - multiple inputs would be nice, although I will probably upgrade my
>> Denon
>> to one with HDMI switching before long.
>>
>> I think that's it.
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | Joe Soprano dba Fun |
>> | | Services |
>> | | <[email protected]|
>> | | > |
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
>> | | Magazine" |
>> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>> | | vehdtv.com> |
>> | | |
>> | | |
>> | | 02/11/2006 08:30 AM |
>> | | Please respond to |
>> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>>
>>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> -
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>> |
>> |
>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> |
>> | cc:
>> |
>> | Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>> |
>>
>>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> -
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Shane - On the subject of shopping for a new TV - what
>> would be your perfect TV? Specs, inputs, size etc.
>> Personally I'm waiting for Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs
>> but I'm curious as to what you are looking for.
>>
>> Joe Soprano
>> San Diego
>>
>> --- "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>I was in the Best Buy this evening, browsing around
>>>looking at new TV's.
>>>Partly because I'm always curious to see how the
>>>different stores set them
>>>up, and partly because I want to be able to watch
>>>HD-DVD next month and my
>>>7-year-old Mits only has component inputs.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I was looking at a Pioneer plasma, probably
>>>about 50" or so (didn't
>>>check). They had been running a Las Vegas demo clip
>>>and then moved on to an
>>>INHD clip. For a minute or two after the Vegas clip
>>>ended, and the INHD
>>>clip began, there was a noticeable burn-in of the
>>>"Vegas" arrow in the
>>>lower right ... plain as day to my eyes. As I was
>>>explaining it to a
>>>friend, though ... it began to slowly go away. And
>>>after about a minute in
>>>front of the set it was gone.
>>>
>>>This goes along with what I've read recently, but
>>>what surprised me was
>>>that the residual "arrow" was even there since the
>>>Vegas clip was only a
>>>minute or two long. I did not think that burn-in
>>>would set that quickly.
>>>
>>>Anyway, just thought I would share my observations.
>>>
>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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I've had my set calibrated.

Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Question for Dave and Jack:

Have either of you had your set ISF calibrated?

Just curious.

Bill T.


-----Original Message-----
From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of FJ
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:15 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance

----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

David,

Alas, you have come to the domain of the celebrated true videophile. What
you or I can see and experience with our "untrained" eyes prevents us from
seeing what true videophiles see. They even have measurements and standards
of various kinds that prove that what they can see really makes a picture
look crappy. I accept it on faith since I'm not a true videophile. Like you
I watch my HDTV from a distance well beyond the proscribed distance and
enjoy the hell out of what I see. I guess ignorance is bliss.

Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "David O. Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Most the recommended viewing distances I have seen for HDTV are WAY, WAY
> to close to the screen. I have a 34 inch diagonal HDTV which I watch at
> about 10 feet. The picture is excellent. Recommended distance is,
> something like 5' 8", uncomfortably close to the screen for me. I read a
> review in PC magazine that said if you watched HDTV a distance,
> substantially farther than recommended, you wouldn't see the HD effect at
> all. Now that's a huge load of "horse hockey" no matter how you slice it.
>
> Dave
> Janesville, WI
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Dale explained it succinctly enough as to be the final word on CVD for me.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Richard Fisher
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Great link
>
> Now at HD Library, Viewing Distance:
>
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3213
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> Bill Tilghman wrote:
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> If you're sitting 17ft from your TV, you would want a 130" diagonal 16:9
> TV
>> if my figures are correct, based on critical viewing distance of 3x the
>> screen height.
>>
>> See:
>>
>
http://www.network54.com/Forum/213962/m ... 830835/Som
>> e+Science%2C+some+art
>>
>> Bill T.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> M.
>> Shane Sturgeon
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:02 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>>
>> I don't have a complete vision yet, but here are some scattered thoughts:
>>
>> - in my current room, DLP (1080p)
>> - but my wife likes the one's that hang, rather than sit. If we go
>> wall-mount, it will be LCD
>> - in my (eventual) home theater, front-projection of some sort (probably
>> DLP) ... I've not done much research yet
>> - our current TV room is roughly 25x15, and we sit approximately 17ft
>> from
>> the TV, so the bigger the better.
>> - I've always liked Samsung & Mitsubishi, but the new Sony's looked great
>> at CES
>> - It must have HDMI w/HDCP
>> - my DVD player already has HDMI
>> - my STB is still limited to component, but I will be upgrading that soon
>> to a DVR anyway (once DirecTV releases them)
>> - component input would be nice to support my gaming consoles (PS2, Xbox
>> 360)
>> - multiple inputs would be nice, although I will probably upgrade my
>> Denon
>> to one with HDMI switching before long.
>>
>> I think that's it.
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
>>
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>> | | Joe Soprano dba Fun |
>> | | Services |
>> | | <[email protected]|
>> | | > |
>> | | Sent by: "HDTV |
>> | | Magazine" |
>> | | <hdtvmagazine_tips@ilo|
>> | | vehdtv.com> |
>> | | |
>> | | |
>> | | 02/11/2006 08:30 AM |
>> | | Please respond to |
>> | | "HDTV Magazine" |
>> |---------+--------------------------------->
>>
>>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> -
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>> |
>> |
>> | To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
>> |
>> | cc:
>> |
>> | Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>> |
>>
>>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> -
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Shane - On the subject of shopping for a new TV - what
>> would be your perfect TV? Specs, inputs, size etc.
>> Personally I'm waiting for Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs
>> but I'm curious as to what you are looking for.
>>
>> Joe Soprano
>> San Diego
>>
>> --- "M. Shane Sturgeon" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>>
>>>I was in the Best Buy this evening, browsing around
>>>looking at new TV's.
>>>Partly because I'm always curious to see how the
>>>different stores set them
>>>up, and partly because I want to be able to watch
>>>HD-DVD next month and my
>>>7-year-old Mits only has component inputs.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I was looking at a Pioneer plasma, probably
>>>about 50" or so (didn't
>>>check). They had been running a Las Vegas demo clip
>>>and then moved on to an
>>>INHD clip. For a minute or two after the Vegas clip
>>>ended, and the INHD
>>>clip began, there was a noticeable burn-in of the
>>>"Vegas" arrow in the
>>>lower right ... plain as day to my eyes. As I was
>>>explaining it to a
>>>friend, though ... it began to slowly go away. And
>>>after about a minute in
>>>front of the set it was gone.
>>>
>>>This goes along with what I've read recently, but
>>>what surprised me was
>>>that the residual "arrow" was even there since the
>>>Vegas clip was only a
>>>minute or two long. I did not think that burn-in
>>>would set that quickly.
>>>
>>>Anyway, just thought I would share my observations.
>>>
>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>To unsubscribe please click:
>>>[email protected]
>>>
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Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
virtually alienated several of his close friends
by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
them on what to look for, etc. they are now
absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
in this regard. I have no argument with
"purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
never accurately know how you see the world. If
someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
absence of beauty". If visual quality is
lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
since having never been able to 'visually-see',
they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
taught different ways to view; how and what to
look for. But each still "sees" through their own
eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
like' through another's eyes.
And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
"seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
forever grateful for their many teachings and help
concerning Digital-HDTV; but I implore them -
Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and thus curse me
to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying
the darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere
compassion for your plight; and regret that I
cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate that,
having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
understand that you are powerless to deny what
"you see with your own eyes!";>)

All the best to everyone;
Bob C
[email protected]
http://HDTVInfoPort.com
HDTV Demystified!


----- Original Message -----
From: FJ
To: HDTV Magazine
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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David,

Alas, you have come to the domain of the
celebrated true videophile. What
you or I can see and experience with our
"untrained" eyes prevents us from
seeing what true videophiles see. They even have
measurements and standards
of various kinds that prove that what they can see
really makes a picture
look crappy. I accept it on faith since I'm not a
true videophile. Like you
I watch my HDTV from a distance well beyond the
proscribed distance and
enjoy the hell out of what I see. I guess
ignorance is bliss.

Jack
----- Original Message -----
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To: "HDTV Magazine"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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>
> Most the recommended viewing distances I have
> seen for HDTV are WAY, WAY
> to close to the screen. I have a 34 inch
> diagonal HDTV which I watch at
> about 10 feet. The picture is excellent.
> Recommended distance is,
> something like 5' 8", uncomfortably close to the
> screen for me. I read a
> review in PC magazine that said if you watched
> HDTV a distance,
> substantially farther than recommended, you
> wouldn't see the HD effect at
> all. Now that's a huge load of "horse hockey" no
> matter how you slice it.
>
> Dave
> Janesville, WI
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
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>
> Dale explained it succinctly enough as to be the
> final word on CVD for me.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine
> On
> Behalf Of
> Richard Fisher
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:31 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Great link
>
> Now at HD Library, Viewing Distance:
>
> http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3213
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Fisher
> www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
> A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
>
> Bill Tilghman wrote:
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>>
>> If you're sitting 17ft from your TV, you would
>> want a 130" diagonal 16:9
> TV
>> if my figures are correct, based on critical
>> viewing distance of 3x the
>> screen height.
>>
>> See:
>>
> http://www.network54.com/Forum/213962/m ... 830835/Som
>> e+Science%2C+some+art
>>
>> Bill T.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HDTV Magazine
>> On
>> Behalf Of
> M.
>> Shane Sturgeon
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:02 AM
>> To: HDTV Magazine
>> Subject: Re: Plasma burn-in first-hand
>>
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>>
>>
>> I don't have a complete vision yet, but here
>> are some scattered thoughts:
>>
>> - in my current room, DLP (1080p)
>> - but my wife likes the one's that hang, rather
>> than sit. If we go
>> wall-mount, it will be LCD
>> - in my (eventual) home theater,
>> front-projection of some sort (probably
>> DLP) ... I've not done much research yet
>> - our current TV room is roughly 25x15, and we
>> sit approximately 17ft
>> from
>> the TV, so the bigger the better.
>> - I've always liked Samsung & Mitsubishi, but
>> the new Sony's looked great
>> at CES
>> - It must have HDMI w/HDCP
>> - my DVD player already has HDMI
>> - my STB is still limited to component, but I
>> will be upgrading that soon
>> to a DVR anyway (once DirecTV releases them)
>> - component input would be nice to support my
>> gaming consoles (PS2, Xbox
>> 360)
>> - multiple inputs would be nice, although I
>> will probably upgrade my
>> Denon
>> to one with HDMI switching before long.
>>
>> I think that's it.
>>
>> -- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>> Shane - On the subject of shopping for a new
>> TV - what
>> would be your perfect TV? Specs, inputs, size
>> etc.
>> Personally I'm waiting for Sony SXRD with 1080P
>> inputs
>> but I'm curious as to what you are looking for.
>>
>> Joe Soprano
>> San Diego
>>
>> --- "M. Shane Sturgeon"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
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>>>I was in the Best Buy this evening, browsing
>>>around
>>>looking at new TV's.
>>>Partly because I'm always curious to see how
>>>the
>>>different stores set them
>>>up, and partly because I want to be able to
>>>watch
>>>HD-DVD next month and my
>>>7-year-old Mits only has component inputs.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I was looking at a Pioneer plasma,
>>>probably
>>>about 50" or so (didn't
>>>check). They had been running a Las Vegas demo
>>>clip
>>>and then moved on to an
>>>INHD clip. For a minute or two after the Vegas
>>>clip
>>>ended, and the INHD
>>>clip began, there was a noticeable burn-in of
>>>the
>>>"Vegas" arrow in the
>>>lower right ... plain as day to my eyes. As I
>>>was
>>>explaining it to a
>>>friend, though ... it began to slowly go away.
>>>And
>>>after about a minute in
>>>front of the set it was gone.
>>>
>>>This goes along with what I've read recently,
>>>but
>>>what surprised me was
>>>that the residual "arrow" was even there since
>>>the
>>>Vegas clip was only a
>>>minute or two long. I did not think that
>>>burn-in
>>>would set that quickly.
>>>
>>>Anyway, just thought I would share my
>>>observations.
>>>
>>>-- M. Shane Sturgeon
>>>
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Exactly why I don't spend big bucks for "calibration".
Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: "B Car" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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>
> Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
> Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
> virtually alienated several of his close friends
> by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
> similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
> displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
> their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
> them on what to look for, etc. they are now
> absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
> view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
> will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
> ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
> in this regard. I have no argument with
> "purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
> peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
> roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
> their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
> close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
> are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
> know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
> when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
> 99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
> resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
> up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
> Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
> never accurately know how you see the world. If
> someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
> beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
> of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
> foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
> accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
> absence of beauty". If visual quality is
> lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
> not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
> be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
> such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
> sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
> could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
> around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
> since having never been able to 'visually-see',
> they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
> in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
> taught different ways to view; how and what to
> look for. But each still "sees" through their own
> eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
> like' through another's eyes.
> And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
> "seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
> to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
> forever grateful for their many teachings and help
> concerning Digital-HDTV; but I implore them -
> Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and thus curse me
> to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying
> the darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere
> compassion for your plight; and regret that I
> cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate that,
> having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
> the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
> understand that you are powerless to deny what
> "you see with your own eyes!";>)
>
> All the best to everyone;
> Bob C
> [email protected]
> http://HDTVInfoPort.com
> HDTV Demystified!
>
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That's your loss, Ken.

Bill T.


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kweimer
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:19 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance

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Exactly why I don't spend big bucks for "calibration".
Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: "B Car" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
> Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
> virtually alienated several of his close friends
> by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
> similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
> displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
> their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
> them on what to look for, etc. they are now
> absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
> view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
> will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
> ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
> in this regard. I have no argument with
> "purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
> peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
> roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
> their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
> close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
> are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
> know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
> when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
> 99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
> resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
> up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
> Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
> never accurately know how you see the world. If
> someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
> beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
> of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
> foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
> accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
> absence of beauty". If visual quality is
> lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
> not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
> be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
> such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
> sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
> could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
> around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
> since having never been able to 'visually-see',
> they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
> in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
> taught different ways to view; how and what to
> look for. But each still "sees" through their own
> eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
> like' through another's eyes.
> And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
> "seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
> to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
> forever grateful for their many teachings and help
> concerning Digital-HDTV; but I implore them -
> Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and thus curse me
> to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying
> the darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere
> compassion for your plight; and regret that I
> cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate that,
> having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
> the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
> understand that you are powerless to deny what
> "you see with your own eyes!";>)
>
> All the best to everyone;
> Bob C
> [email protected]
> http://HDTVInfoPort.com
> HDTV Demystified!
>
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I can see this subject is as contentious as our periodic discussion of
cables. Right now colleges offer courses in music appreciation and art
appreciation, maybe one on video appreciation is in order. Personally I
love excellent quality be it with video or automobiles or watches, etc. I
have a couple of watches that don't keep time as well as a cheap rubber one
but they are pieces of art with old world workmanship. It's like the old
saying about one man's meat is another man's poison.

Hugh



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To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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>
> That's your loss, Ken.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> kweimer
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:19 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Exactly why I don't spend big bucks for "calibration".
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B Car" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
>> Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
>> virtually alienated several of his close friends
>> by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
>> similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
>> displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
>> their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
>> them on what to look for, etc. they are now
>> absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
>> view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
>> will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
>> ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
>> in this regard. I have no argument with
>> "purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
>> peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
>> roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
>> their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
>> close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
>> are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
>> know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
>> when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
>> 99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
>> resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
>> up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
>> Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
>> never accurately know how you see the world. If
>> someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
>> beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
>> of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
>> foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
>> accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
>> absence of beauty". If visual quality is
>> lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
>> not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
>> be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
>> such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
>> sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
>> could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
>> around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
>> since having never been able to 'visually-see',
>> they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
>> in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
>> taught different ways to view; how and what to
>> look for. But each still "sees" through their own
>> eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
>> like' through another's eyes.
>> And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
>> "seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
>> to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
>> forever grateful for their many teachings and help
>> concerning Digital-HDTV; but I implore them -
>> Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and thus curse me
>> to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying
>> the darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere
>> compassion for your plight; and regret that I
>> cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate that,
>> having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
>> the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
>> understand that you are powerless to deny what
>> "you see with your own eyes!";>)
>>
>> All the best to everyone;
>> Bob C
>> [email protected]
>> http://HDTVInfoPort.com
>> HDTV Demystified!
>>
>>
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Calibration is a mixed bag, but one that I think is superior to the
alternative. I've had both my CRT RPTV and my CRT FP projector calibrated
by people who know what they are doing. The result has been undeniably
nicer PQ. Anyone could see the difference, and it's not subtle. A well
calibrated and converged CRT just pops with a cinematic quality I have yet
to see elsewhere.

The downside is that in the process of learning how your picture can be
improved, you learn what was wrong with it in the first place, and are
sensitized to recurrence of those phenomena.

But ultimately, as in other areas of life, with calibration the burden of
this knowledge is justified by the enrichment of experience it brings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh Campbell
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:57 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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I can see this subject is as contentious as our periodic discussion of
cables. Right now colleges offer courses in music appreciation and art
appreciation, maybe one on video appreciation is in order. Personally I
love excellent quality be it with video or automobiles or watches, etc. I
have a couple of watches that don't keep time as well as a cheap rubber one
but they are pieces of art with old world workmanship. It's like the old
saying about one man's meat is another man's poison.

Hugh



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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>
> That's your loss, Ken.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of kweimer
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:19 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Exactly why I don't spend big bucks for "calibration".
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B Car" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
>> Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
>> virtually alienated several of his close friends
>> by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
>> similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
>> displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
>> their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
>> them on what to look for, etc. they are now
>> absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
>> view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
>> will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
>> ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
>> in this regard. I have no argument with
>> "purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
>> peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
>> roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
>> their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
>> close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
>> are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
>> know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
>> when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
>> 99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
>> resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
>> up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
>> Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
>> never accurately know how you see the world. If
>> someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
>> beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
>> of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
>> foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
>> accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
>> absence of beauty". If visual quality is
>> lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
>> not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
>> be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
>> such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
>> sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
>> could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
>> around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
>> since having never been able to 'visually-see',
>> they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
>> in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
>> taught different ways to view; how and what to
>> look for. But each still "sees" through their own
>> eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
>> like' through another's eyes.
>> And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
>> "seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
>> to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
>> forever grateful for their many teachings and help concerning
>> Digital-HDTV; but I implore them - Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and
>> thus curse me to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying
>> the darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere
>> compassion for your plight; and regret that I
>> cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate that,
>> having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
>> the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
>> understand that you are powerless to deny what
>> "you see with your own eyes!";>)
>>
>> All the best to everyone;
>> Bob C
>> [email protected]
>> http://HDTVInfoPort.com
>> HDTV Demystified!
>>
>>
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A good friend of mine loves HDTV, but is color blind. One might argue that
a calibration begins to lose effectiveness for such individuals. Sure,
convergence can still help, but is convergence alone still worth the price
of a calibration?

My point is that all of this is entirely subjective. I love HDTV, I see the
difference (even from 17ft away on a 55" diagonal). Others simply aren't
able to tell a difference ... and no matter what you do or say ... they
will not. Lack of calibration may be a loss for some, but please accept
that it may not be a loss for others.

Count your blessings ... (take that either way you wish)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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I can see this subject is as contentious as our periodic discussion of
cables. Right now colleges offer courses in music appreciation and art
appreciation, maybe one on video appreciation is in order. Personally I
love excellent quality be it with video or automobiles or watches, etc. I
have a couple of watches that don't keep time as well as a cheap rubber one

but they are pieces of art with old world workmanship. It's like the old
saying about one man's meat is another man's poison.

Hugh



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> That's your loss, Ken.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> kweimer
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:19 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Exactly why I don't spend big bucks for "calibration".
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B Car" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
>> Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
>> virtually alienated several of his close friends
>> by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
>> similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
>> displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
>> their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
>> them on what to look for, etc. they are now
>> absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
>> view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
>> will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
>> ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
>> in this regard. I have no argument with
>> "purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
>> peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
>> roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
>> their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
>> close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
>> are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
>> know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
>> when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
>> 99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
>> resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
>> up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
>> Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
>> never accurately know how you see the world. If
>> someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
>> beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
>> of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
>> foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
>> accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
>> absence of beauty". If visual quality is
>> lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
>> not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
>> be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
>> such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
>> sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
>> could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
>> around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
>> since having never been able to 'visually-see',
>> they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
>> in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
>> taught different ways to view; how and what to
>> look for. But each still "sees" through their own
>> eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
>> like' through another's eyes.
>> And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
>> "seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
>> to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
>> forever grateful for their many teachings and help
>> concerning Digital-HDTV; but I implore them -
>> Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and thus curse me
>> to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying
>> the darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere
>> compassion for your plight; and regret that I
>> cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate that,
>> having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
>> the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
>> understand that you are powerless to deny what
>> "you see with your own eyes!";>)
>>
>> All the best to everyone;
>> Bob C
>> [email protected]
>> http://HDTVInfoPort.com
>> HDTV Demystified!
>>
>>
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and SD on a good TV. If you compromise the bit rate enough, the "HD"
picture degrades sufficiently that it can be closer. But otherwise, again,
I've never met the person who can't tell the difference, and instantly.

-----Original Message-----
From: M. Shane Sturgeon
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:27 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


A good friend of mine loves HDTV, but is color blind. One might argue that a
calibration begins to lose effectiveness for such individuals. Sure,
convergence can still help, but is convergence alone still worth the price
of a calibration?

My point is that all of this is entirely subjective. I love HDTV, I see the
difference (even from 17ft away on a 55" diagonal). Others simply aren't
able to tell a difference ... and no matter what you do or say ... they will
not. Lack of calibration may be a loss for some, but please accept that it
may not be a loss for others.

Count your blessings ... (take that either way you wish)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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I can see this subject is as contentious as our periodic discussion of
cables. Right now colleges offer courses in music appreciation and art
appreciation, maybe one on video appreciation is in order. Personally I
love excellent quality be it with video or automobiles or watches, etc. I
have a couple of watches that don't keep time as well as a cheap rubber one

but they are pieces of art with old world workmanship. It's like the old
saying about one man's meat is another man's poison.

Hugh



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> That's your loss, Ken.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of kweimer
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:19 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Exactly why I don't spend big bucks for "calibration".
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B Car" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
>> Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
>> virtually alienated several of his close friends
>> by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
>> similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
>> displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
>> their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
>> them on what to look for, etc. they are now
>> absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
>> view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
>> will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
>> ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
>> in this regard. I have no argument with
>> "purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
>> peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
>> roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
>> their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
>> close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
>> are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
>> know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
>> when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
>> 99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
>> resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
>> up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
>> Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
>> never accurately know how you see the world. If
>> someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
>> beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
>> of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
>> foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
>> accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
>> absence of beauty". If visual quality is
>> lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
>> not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
>> be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
>> such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
>> sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
>> could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
>> around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
>> since having never been able to 'visually-see',
>> they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
>> in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
>> taught different ways to view; how and what to
>> look for. But each still "sees" through their own
>> eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
>> like' through another's eyes.
>> And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
>> "seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
>> to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
>> forever grateful for their many teachings and help concerning
>> Digital-HDTV; but I implore them - Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and
>> thus curse me to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying
>> the darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere
>> compassion for your plight; and regret that I
>> cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate that,
>> having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
>> the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
>> understand that you are powerless to deny what
>> "you see with your own eyes!";>)
>>
>> All the best to everyone;
>> Bob C
>> [email protected]
>> http://HDTVInfoPort.com
>> HDTV Demystified!
>>
>>
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I'm not comparing HD to SD. I'm comparing calibrated HD to un-calibrated
HD.

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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I have never met one person who cannot tell the difference between OTA HD
and SD on a good TV. If you compromise the bit rate enough, the "HD"
picture degrades sufficiently that it can be closer. But otherwise, again,
I've never met the person who can't tell the difference, and instantly.

-----Original Message-----
From: M. Shane Sturgeon
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:27 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----


A good friend of mine loves HDTV, but is color blind. One might argue that
a
calibration begins to lose effectiveness for such individuals. Sure,
convergence can still help, but is convergence alone still worth the price
of a calibration?

My point is that all of this is entirely subjective. I love HDTV, I see the
difference (even from 17ft away on a 55" diagonal). Others simply aren't
able to tell a difference ... and no matter what you do or say ... they
will
not. Lack of calibration may be a loss for some, but please accept that it
may not be a loss for others.

Count your blessings ... (take that either way you wish)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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I can see this subject is as contentious as our periodic discussion of
cables. Right now colleges offer courses in music appreciation and art
appreciation, maybe one on video appreciation is in order. Personally I
love excellent quality be it with video or automobiles or watches, etc. I
have a couple of watches that don't keep time as well as a cheap rubber one

but they are pieces of art with old world workmanship. It's like the old
saying about one man's meat is another man's poison.

Hugh



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tilghman" <[email protected]>
To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> That's your loss, Ken.
>
> Bill T.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf
> Of kweimer
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:19 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> Exactly why I don't spend big bucks for "calibration".
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B Car" <[email protected]>
> To: "HDTV Magazine" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Viewing Distance
>
>
>> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>>
>> Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
>> Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
>> virtually alienated several of his close friends
>> by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
>> similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
>> displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
>> their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
>> them on what to look for, etc. they are now
>> absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
>> view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
>> will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
>> ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
>> in this regard. I have no argument with
>> "purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
>> peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
>> roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
>> their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
>> close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
>> are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
>> know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
>> when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
>> 99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
>> resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
>> up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
>> Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
>> never accurately know how you see the world. If
>> someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
>> beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
>> of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
>> foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
>> accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
>> absence of beauty". If visual quality is
>> lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
>> not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
>> be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
>> such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
>> sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
>> could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
>> around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
>> since having never been able to 'visually-see',
>> they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
>> in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
>> taught different ways to view; how and what to
>> look for. But each still "sees" through their own
>> eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
>> like' through another's eyes.
>> And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
>> "seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
>> to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
>> forever grateful for their many teachings and help concerning
>> Digital-HDTV; but I implore them - Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and
>> thus curse me to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying
>> the darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere
>> compassion for your plight; and regret that I
>> cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate that,
>> having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
>> the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
>> understand that you are powerless to deny what
>> "you see with your own eyes!";>)
>>
>> All the best to everyone;
>> Bob C
>> [email protected]
>> http://HDTVInfoPort.com
>> HDTV Demystified!
>>
>>
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Ah. Well, that would depend on a lot of factors, such as how far "off" the
TV was in the first place. Personally, what sticks out for me immediately
is convergence, as opposed to grayscale issues. But most service menus let
you get pretty close on convergence if you're willing to spend a few
minutes...

-----Original Message-----
From: M. Shane Sturgeon
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:37 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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I'm not comparing HD to SD. I'm comparing calibrated HD to un-calibrated HD.

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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I have never met one person who cannot tell the difference between OTA HD
and SD on a good TV. If you compromise the bit rate enough, the "HD"
picture degrades sufficiently that it can be closer. But otherwise, again,
I've never met the person who can't tell the difference, and instantly.

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From: M. Shane Sturgeon
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:27 AM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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A good friend of mine loves HDTV, but is color blind. One might argue that a
calibration begins to lose effectiveness for such individuals. Sure,
convergence can still help, but is convergence alone still worth the price
of a calibration?

My point is that all of this is entirely subjective. I love HDTV, I see the
difference (even from 17ft away on a 55" diagonal). Others simply aren't
able to tell a difference ... and no matter what you do or say ... they will
not. Lack of calibration may be a loss for some, but please accept that it
may not be a loss for others.

Count your blessings ... (take that either way you wish)

-- M. Shane Sturgeon



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I can see this subject is as contentious as our periodic discussion of
cables. Right now colleges offer courses in music appreciation and art
appreciation, maybe one on video appreciation is in order. Personally I
love excellent quality be it with video or automobiles or watches, etc. I
have a couple of watches that don't keep time as well as a cheap rubber one

but they are pieces of art with old world workmanship. It's like the old
saying about one man's meat is another man's poison.

Hugh



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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Viewing Distance


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> That's your loss, Ken.
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> Exactly why I don't spend big bucks for "calibration".
> Ken
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> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:54 AM
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>> Well said Jack! My son has transitioned from
>> Audiophile to 'Audio-Video-Phile'. He has
>> virtually alienated several of his close friends
>> by pointing out all the various 'artifacts' and
>> similar shortcomings of their Digital-HDTV
>> displays. Where they had been content to enjoy
>> their HDTV picture quality, after he "educated"
>> them on what to look for, etc. they are now
>> absolutely miserable... since they can no longer
>> view their own TV without seeing the defects. I
>> will not let him "show" me how right he is, and
>> ruin my enjoyment. I don't mind being "ignorant"
>> in this regard. I have no argument with
>> "purists" - unless they insist on spoiling other
>> peoples enjoyment. When I give a dozen long-stem
>> roses to my wife, thankfully she simply enjoys
>> their beauty - and doesn't choose to exame them up
>> close with a magnifying glass, just to prove there
>> are defects present. I "Love" HDTV ... though I
>> know we are not receiving "True" HDTV; but even
>> when (if) the powers-that-be, ever deliver
>> 99-percent "perfect" 1080p HDTV, (or higher
>> resolution) in the final analysis it will still be
>> up to my (66-year-old) "untrained" eyes. As
>> Beauty "IS" in the eyes of the beholder, I can
>> never accurately know how you see the world. If
>> someone has the capability to "teach" me to "see"
>> beauty I'm missing, or enhance my "limited" vision
>> of beauty, God Bless them! Certainly, I would be
>> foolish to decline such a gift. But what is
>> accomplished in "training" anyone to see "the
>> absence of beauty". If visual quality is
>> lessened, rather than enhanced, then it matters
>> not how well-meaning the 'teacher's' motives may
>> be; what benefit does the recipient derive from
>> such "enlightenment"? Who would favor giving
>> sight to the sightless, on the condition that they
>> could then be shown all the uglyness that exists
>> around them? (Notwithstanding, it's conceivable,
>> since having never been able to 'visually-see',
>> they might surprise us by "seeing" untold Beauty
>> in places we've overlooked) Each of us can be
>> taught different ways to view; how and what to
>> look for. But each still "sees" through their own
>> eyes - only. We cannot "know" what reality 'looks
>> like' through another's eyes.
>> And for this I'm thankful - as it spares me from
>> "seeing" all the 'defects and artifacts' that seem
>> to plague so many expert videophiles. I am
>> forever grateful for their many teachings and help concerning
>> Digital-HDTV; but I implore them - Please, do not "heal" my eyes; and
>> thus curse me to lose sight of the beauty that is, by amplifying the
>> darkness I do not now see. I offer my sincere compassion for your
>> plight; and regret that I cannot help you. It's truly unfortunate
>> that, having had your eyes opened, you can not return to
>> the bliss of ignorance you once enjoyed. But I
>> understand that you are powerless to deny what
>> "you see with your own eyes!";>)
>>
>> All the best to everyone;
>> Bob C
>> [email protected]
>> http://HDTVInfoPort.com
>> HDTV Demystified!
>>
>>
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