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Thank you for the very helpful information on this. I will contact you, Alan, for more information. I was very aware of the upconversion issue with component inputs, but unaware of any solutions available. Sorry for the dual submission of this question, but I was under the impression that our server here at the office had kicked the first one back to me.
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:54:41 -0500
Subject: Subject: Re: DVD with 1080 output
From: RANDY BOTNICK <
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Message-ID: <BFDF2771.354D%
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I recently purchased a Denon DVD2910 for use with my Toshiba 65H80 (which
Richard calibrated for me a few years ago). Is there any way that I can
receive an upconverted signal through my component video inputs as this set
has neither DVI nor HDMI inputs?
Randy Botnick
Tweeter Direct
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Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 03:43:53 -0500
From: Richard <
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Subject: Re: DVD with 1080 output
Let me try that again...
The component outs are turned off in the software which is setup by the
manufacturer. For that particular player if you enable the HD component
you will have messed up DVI, white clipping, and if you disable the HD
component the DVI is fixed.
Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
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From: "Alan Brown" <
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Subject: RE: Viewing Upconverted Denon DVD2910 image on component inputs
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:12:44 -0700
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If one is desired, I can double check with the manufacturer before ordering
it. They know what the production run is and can advise me whether or not
the units with the odd chip are still in inventory. Please call me or send
an email to verify availability. My contact info is on my web site.
Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www. cinemaquestinc.com
"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"
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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Andy Mack
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:38 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Upconverted Denon DVD2910 image on component inputs
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"Just a word of warning. That piece is illegal and there were a limited
number of them available months ago that would defeat the HDCP; there after
the new production line will not pass through HDCP content.
Purchasing one now is not a guarantee that you will get an illegal one."
I just purchased mine about a month ago with no problems. I spoke to the
president Minsoo Park in Hackensack, NJ about this. For now, there is
somewhat of a legal loop hole in that the NJ office is nothing more than a
sales office with the device being made in Korea. They're advertised on
AVrevolution.com and places. Hollywood has certainly expressed dismay over
it but has stopped short of telling them to cease and desist. In any event,
they are not illegal to buy or use and frankly, I strongly recommend them to
anyone who is stuck with component inputs (which is I think about a couple
million of us).
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From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
Richard
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:13 PM
To: HDTV Magazine
Subject: Re: Viewing Upconverted Denon DVD2910 image on component inputs
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> devices. First go to
www.dtrovision.com and ck out their "PureLink"
DVI to
> VGA converter. This device ignores HDCP and passes the upconverted DVI
> signal onto the VGA port. It retails for $349. Alan Brown from
>
www.cinemaquestinc.com is a dealer for them.
Just a word of warning. That piece is illegal and there were a limited
number of them available months ago that would defeat the HDCP; there
after the new production line will not pass through HDCP content.
Purchasing one now is not a guarantee that you will get an illegal one.
Richard Fisher
www.HDLibrary.com Published by Tech Services
A division of Mastertech Repair Corporation
Andy Mack wrote:
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>
> Actually Randy, the answer to your question is a resounding yes. You need
2
> devices. First go to
www.dtrovision.com and ck out their "PureLink" DVI
to
> VGA converter. This device ignores HDCP and passes the upconverted DVI
> signal onto the VGA port. It retails for $349. Alan Brown from
>
www.cinemaquestinc.com is a dealer for them. Next get a VGA to component
> converter from, say,
www.audioauthority.com. Their model number is a 9A60
> and retails for $129. I have this setup for my, component only, input on
my
> direct view Sony and I use the 540P upconverted DVI output from the
> Oppodigital DVD player. Works great!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Doug Weil
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:34 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Viewing Upconverted Denon DVD2910 image on component inputs
>
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>
> The Oppo player, last time I saw one, does NOT upconvert over the
component
> inputs. In fact, most reviews of the Oppo note that it provides subpar
> picture quality via the component output.
>
> However, early firmware versions of the Zenith DVD player mentioned
provide
> for component video upconversion, as did early versions of the Bravo DVD
> players.
>
> Also, it is POSSIBLE to capture component video for recording, but to date
> this is limited to expensive professional equipment. The irony here is
quite
> large, since the high cost poses a significant obstacle for consumers but
no
> really meaningful deterrent to a determined pirate.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Doug
> Clearly Resolved Image & Sound
>
> Business: +1 (618) 234-2865
> Cell: +1 (314) 495-2993
>
> eMail:
[email protected]
> Web:
http://www.clearlyresolved.com
>
> Affiliated with the Imaging Science Foundation
>
http://www.imagingscience.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Jason Burroughs
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:20
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: Viewing Upconverted Denon DVD2910 image on component inputs
>
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>
> Randy - unfortunately, the answer is most likely no. Almost every
> upconverting DVD player does so only out of the DVI port, ostensibly to
> protect against piracy. This is because the signal is encrypted over DVI
> using HDCP, while analog component video is unencrypted, and the movie
> studios pressured the big companies to turn off this ability. There is no
> easy way to capture video over component anyway, but that's another story.
>
> If you want to watch upconverted DVDs via component video, Zenith and Oppo
> both make units that allow this. If you search through the tips archived
> emails, you'll find information on both.
>
> You might also go to
www.avsforum.com and search for "DVD2910" and see
what
> you find.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Botnick, Randy
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:44 AM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Viewing Upconverted Denon DVD2910 image on component inputs
>
> ----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----
>
> I just purchased a Denon DVD2910 to use with my Toshiba 65H80, which only
> component HD inputs. Is there any way for me to view the upconverted image
> on my TV?
> Thank you for your help!
> Randy Botnick
>
> Account Manager
> Tweeter Direct
>
> 800-277-3296 ext. 3809
> 404-699-3809
> 404-505-5938 - fax
>
> B2B, Premiums, Fulfillment and Distribution, Insurance Replacement
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HDTV Magazine On Behalf Of
> Alan Brown
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:57 PM
> To: HDTV Magazine
> Subject: Re: DVD with 1080 output
>
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>
> I have been pleased with the Denon models. Personally, I use and have
> installed the DVD-2910 and DVD-3910. They're priced at $739.00 and
> $1,499.00 MSRP, respectively. The DVD-5910 is in a class by itself, very
> highly regarded, and MSRP is $3,500.00.
>
> These units all offer DVD-A and SACD with full bass management, in
addition
> to upscaling the image. Every display I have hooked these up to looked
> noticeably better using the upconverted DVD signal from the player, rather
> than the video processor in the projector or TV. In other words, it's not
> hyperbole. As far as what is "a good deal," that's entirely subjective
and
> my opinion means nothing to another person with their own unique set of
> budget constraints, tastes and priorities.
>
> Best regards and beautiful pictures,
> Alan Brown, President
> CinemaQuest, Inc.
>
www.cinemaquestinc.com
>
> "Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"
>
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